iCM Forum World Cup Season 3 - Round 1 preparation

[Armoreska]

If he would submit Tiga abdul, I would accept it, because IMDb says Malaysia. I'm not doing more investigation than that. So what does this mean? When the schedule is complete, should I send it to Mario first to check for ineligible titles like this? You're a much better researcher than I am.

Yeah but IMDb isn't always right. Otherwise Indian films made before 1949 would be under UK.

British Empire, innit?
But I dont think IMDb treats colonies that way.

[72aicm]

Come on. In the world of football players change countries all the time. I mean 2/3 of the Northern Ireland team are from England, but have one parent(s)/grandparent(s) from NI.

If the manager feels the movie is from «his» country and IMDb says the same, that’s good enough for me. Don’t really care tbh, I’m only spectating. But anything that means less policing is a +1 from me.

[jvv]

^this

[Mario Gaborović]

Come on. In the world of football players change countries all the time. I mean 2/3 of the Northern Ireland team are from England, but have one parent(s)/grandparent(s) from NI.

If the manager feels the movie is from «his» country and IMDb says the same, that’s good enough for me. Don’t really care tbh, I’m only spectating. But anything that means less policing is a +1 from me.

Yeah, and the Armenian bobsleigh 2-seat team never actually set foot in Armenia, even though they competed at the Winter Olympics for the country. I know that as a fan of The Room, because the drug dealer who held Tommy Wiseau's voyeur-neighbour at the gunpoint was the brake man.

[sacmersault]

Come on. In the world of football players change countries all the time. I mean 2/3 of the Northern Ireland team are from England, but have one parent(s)/grandparent(s) from NI.

If the manager feels the movie is from «his» country and IMDb says the same, that’s good enough for me. Don’t really care tbh, I’m only spectating. But anything that means less policing is a +1 from me.

Yeah, but then this goes back to what we were talking about before. Countries with big cinematic trajectory tend to have big production companies. They usually coproduce films in many other countries. Like when we did the Canada poll. A lot of films list Canada as one of their countries but the only Canadian thing they had was the money. Mexico, Spain, Argentina and Brazil do this a lot too with Latin American countries. So it would be unfair to let Spain choose any movie from anywhere in the world that has nothing to do with the country except money or heritage. It would make the distinction between big countries vs small countries even bigger.

[joachimt]

Let me repeat something from the OP:

Coproductions are allowed, but with an explanation why a movie certainly belongs to the country it competes for.

[cinewest]

These will be the four pots to do the draw.

Pot 1:
Czechia (Carmel98)
England (funkybusiness)
France (klaus78)
Germany (Lilarcor)
Greece (tommy_leazaq)
Hungary (tarr)
Italy (toro913)
Poland (sebby)
Portugal (Pgonzalez)
Russia (blocho)
Spain (beavis)
Sweden (PeacefulAnarchy)

Pot 2:
Australia (Daviddoes)
Brazil (Gorro)
Canada (Armoreska)
China (hurluberlu)
Hong Kong (Smoover)
India (tommy_leazaq)
Iran (zhangalan)
Japan (monty)
Mexico (Daviddoes)
South Korea (mjf314)
Taiwan (mjf314)
USA (filmbantha)

Pot 3:
Austria (metaller)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (Cynical Cinephile)
Bulgaria (Mario Gaborović)
Croatia (Mochard)
Finland (nimimerkillinen)
Georgia (tarr)
Latvia (RogerTheMovieManiac88)
Romania (clemmetarey)
Serbia (Mario Gaborović)
Switzerland (Nathan Treadway)
The Netherlands (Gershwin)
Turkey (XxXApathy420XxX)

Pot 4:
Argentina (RBG)
Bolivia (burneyfan)
Burkina Faso (hurluberlu )
Dominican Republic (Angel Glez)
Lebanon (Armoreska)
Malaysia (Fergenaprido)
Mali (Fergenaprido)
Morocco (jvv)
Peru (sacmersault)
Thailand (Lonewolf2003)
Uruguay (toro913)
Vietnam (Eve-Lang-El-Coup)

Argentina is much stronger than any other country in pot 4, and most in pot 3

[brokenface]

It's been set so that pots 1 and 3 are all European countries, so the only question is whether it's stronger than any country in pot 2. It's probably similar strength to some but it'd be a borderline judgement call.

[Armoreska]

These will be the four pots to do the draw.

Pot 1:
Czechia (Carmel98)
England (funkybusiness)
France (klaus78)
Germany (Lilarcor)
Greece (tommy_leazaq)
Hungary (tarr)
Italy (toro913)
Poland (sebby)
Portugal (Pgonzalez)
Russia (blocho)
Spain (beavis)
Sweden (PeacefulAnarchy)

Pot 2:
Australia (Daviddoes)
Brazil (Gorro)
Canada (Armoreska)
China (hurluberlu)
Hong Kong (Smoover)
India (tommy_leazaq)
Iran (zhangalan)
Japan (monty)
Mexico (Daviddoes)
South Korea (mjf314)
Taiwan (mjf314)
USA (filmbantha)

Pot 3:
Austria (metaller)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (Cynical Cinephile)
Bulgaria (Mario Gaborović)
Croatia (Mochard)
Finland (nimimerkillinen)
Georgia (tarr)
Latvia (RogerTheMovieManiac88)
Romania (clemmetarey)
Serbia (Mario Gaborović)
Switzerland (Nathan Treadway)
The Netherlands (Gershwin)
Turkey (XxXApathy420XxX)

Pot 4:
Argentina (RBG)
Bolivia (burneyfan)
Burkina Faso (hurluberlu )
Dominican Republic (Angel Glez)
Lebanon (Armoreska)
Malaysia (Fergenaprido)
Mali (Fergenaprido)
Morocco (jvv)
Peru (sacmersault)
Thailand (Lonewolf2003)
Uruguay (toro913)
Vietnam (Eve-Lang-El-Coup)

Argentina is much stronger than any other country in pot 4, and most in pot 3

We've not seen proof of that. They'd have to show not tell this season then.

S1
El dependiente - A fost sau n-a fost?: 7 - 28
(also lost to China)
S2
Shen nu - La historia oficial 20 - 4
(narrowly beat Netherlands however)

[Mario Gaborović]

Stop splitting hairs. Isn't it interesting that sometimes pot-strength isn't equally allocated each time? Tough countries' managers very often use average films to compete with, so who cares anyway.

[Mario Gaborović]

22 days left to pick your movies. Joachim, how many you've got it so far?

[joachimt]

22 days left to pick your movies. Joachim, how many you've got it so far?

15

[joachimt]

22 days left to pick your movies. Joachim, how many you've got it so far?

15

17

[Nathan Treadway]

How is there still 31 picks not in? I knew for a long time what film I was going into round one with.

[monty]

How is there still 31 picks not in?

I'm not submitting mine until all the other noms have reached J-Dog.

[Mario Gaborović]

How is there still 31 picks not in?

I'm not submitting mine until all the other noms have reached J-Dog.

Today or in remaining 18 days, it won't change anything unless you have a busy viewing schedule.

[joachimt]

How is there still 31 picks not in?

I'm not submitting mine until all the other noms have reached J-Dog.

Today or in remaining 18 days, it won't change anything unless you have a busy viewing schedule.

Indeed. I don't see why you want to be the last. I won't present the schedule before all noms are in. If you miss the deadline, I'll pick one myself.....

[Lonewolf2003]

Because maybe some people want to watch some other candidates first before making their definitive pick. That's what I did last year.

[joachimt]

Because maybe some people want to watch some other candidates first before making their definitive pick. That's what I did last year.

There's nothing wrong with that, but monty is saying someone else. But whatever, he's just being monty again.

[Mario Gaborović]

Because maybe some people want to watch some other candidates first before making their definitive pick. That's what I did last year.

There's nothing wrong with that, but monty is saying someone else. But whatever, he's just being monty again.

I assume that he's looking at tough countries' managers latest checks, so he could assess whether he should use stronger or weaker film in the first round, so he'd advance as further as possible.

[Lonewolf2003]

Because maybe some people want to watch some other candidates first before making their definitive pick. That's what I did last year.

There's nothing wrong with that, but monty is saying someone else. But whatever, he's just being monty again.

Yeah, monty is just being monty again. I was reacting to Nathan's comment more.

[Nathan Treadway]

Because maybe some people want to watch some other candidates first before making their definitive pick. That's what I did last year.

There's nothing wrong with that, but monty is saying someone else. But whatever, he's just being monty again.

Yeah, monty is just being monty again. I was reacting to Nathan's comment more.

Yeah, I wasn't thinking about that. I've just been eagerly anticipating this for a while, and knew which country and first round film I wanted about the time that I joined in last time, and assumed everyone else had as well, and was quite surprised that he only has 1/3 of the films. (Now, if I make it past the first round, I'll have some sorting out to do, so, I may not be as ready as fast...)

Sorry if my last comment came across as snarky, as it wasn't intended that way, if it did.

[joachimt]

22 now

Two weeks left

[Mario Gaborović]

22 now

Two weeks left

Set the new deadline for LGBT poll in order to avoid two things going on at the same time. Let it be 12th of December.

[joachimt]

27 now, 19 left
7.5 days to go

[Mario Gaborović]

27 now, 19 left
7.5 days to go

You mean, 21 left.

[joachimt]

27 now, 19 left
7.5 days to go

You mean, 21 left.

I need to go to bed......

[monty]

I expect a pm in case I forget about this...

[Mario Gaborović]

I expect a pm in case I forget about this...

Your forgetfulness means you're not quite commited to the cup, which further means you don't watch too many films to make the best selection, which means you can submit your film right now.

Unless you arrogantly see yourself above the others, being Japan's manager and somebody who reveals his pick the last... as if some kind of illuminati is present. I bow to your highness but that's gonna make your losses only more painful.

[Armoreska]

I expect a pm in case I forget about this...

I expect everyone who forgets should have their managerial seat taken away.
Google 'alarm clock for windows'.

[Mario Gaborović]

I expect a pm in case I forget about this...

I expect everyone who forgets should have their managerial seat taken away.
Google 'alarm clock for windows'.

Seriously, how much can you change in a week? You've seen enough to make a proper choice. What's the meaning of hesitation?

[joachimt]

29
3.5 days left
19 movies still need to be picked.

[mjf314]

I'll send mine on the last day. I want to watch 1 or 2 more movies before the deadline.

[monty]

I expect a pm when all the other noms have been received.

[Lonewolf2003]

Why? You're the one who desperately wants to be the last manager to nominate a movie, while there being no good reasons to do so. So you should accept the consequences when you submit too late.

[Mario Gaborović]

Why? You're the one who desperately wants to be the last manager to nominate a movie, while there being no good reasons to do so. So you should accept the consequences when you submit too late.

Japanese adult industry is quite productive, and it requires much more time to pick a film.

[monty]

Why? You're the one who desperately wants to be the last manager to nominate a movie, while there being no good reasons to do so. So you should accept the consequences when you submit too late.

Japanese adult industry is quite productive, and it requires much more time to pick a film.

Not to mention the hard time one has getting IMDb to add these cinematic gems...

[Eve-Lang-El-Coup]

My film is: Mùa len trâu (The Buffalo Boy) 2004 Minh Nguyen-Vo

[joachimt]

Eve, you should have sent me a PM.

[joachimt]

15 left
2 days before the deadline