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Post by Mario Gaborović » October 29th, 2017, 4:40 pm

Nathan Treadway on Oct 29 2017, 10:37:16 AM wrote:
joachimt on Oct 29 2017, 08:34:43 AM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Oct 29 2017, 08:16:23 AM wrote:All nominated films should be revealed immediately after Joachim receives them, and when that happens it's irrelevant when the start is going to be since many of us will start watching 'em right off. B)
There are always people who submit their choice right before the deadline, so my choice for the deadline is just a few days before my choice of the start of the tournament.
How many submissions have you gotten so far?
He didn't even announced the submission in official tone, but I guess we can start sending already.

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Post by Armoreska » October 29th, 2017, 4:40 pm

Probably zero since there's no thread yet
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » October 29th, 2017, 4:42 pm

I'll say my nomination right now: https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/bulanti/

I'm only here to promote this for <400.
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Post by joachimt » October 29th, 2017, 4:55 pm

Nathan Treadway on Oct 29 2017, 10:37:16 AM wrote:
joachimt on Oct 29 2017, 08:34:43 AM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Oct 29 2017, 08:16:23 AM wrote:All nominated films should be revealed immediately after Joachim receives them, and when that happens it's irrelevant when the start is going to be since many of us will start watching 'em right off. B)
There are always people who submit their choice right before the deadline, so my choice for the deadline is just a few days before my choice of the start of the tournament.
How many submissions have you gotten so far?
1
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Post by Armoreska » October 29th, 2017, 4:55 pm

XxXApathy420XxX on Oct 29 2017, 10:42:18 AM wrote:I'll say my nomination right now: https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/bulanti/

I'm only here to promote this for <400.
I'd like you in my group ;)
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Post by joachimt » October 29th, 2017, 4:57 pm

Armoreska on Oct 29 2017, 10:40:16 AM wrote:Probably zero since there's no thread yet
But Nathan already sent it anyway. You don't need to wait for the thread.
XxXApathy420XxX on Oct 29 2017, 10:42:18 AM wrote:I'll say my nomination right now: https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/bulanti/

I'm only here to promote this for <400.
I can't stop people from posting, but I prefer to hear the movies by PM. Movies and schedule will be revealed after the deadline.
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Post by joachimt » October 29th, 2017, 4:58 pm

joachimt on Oct 29 2017, 10:55:35 AM wrote:
Nathan Treadway on Oct 29 2017, 10:37:16 AM wrote:
joachimt on Oct 29 2017, 08:34:43 AM wrote:There are always people who submit their choice right before the deadline, so my choice for the deadline is just a few days before my choice of the start of the tournament.
How many submissions have you gotten so far?
1
2 now ;)
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » October 29th, 2017, 5:06 pm

Armoreska on Oct 29 2017, 10:55:55 AM wrote:
XxXApathy420XxX on Oct 29 2017, 10:42:18 AM wrote:I'll say my nomination right now: https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/bulanti/

I'm only here to promote this for <400.
I'd like you in my group ;)
I couldn't care less about this world cup tbh so sure I'd be in your group.
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Post by Nopros » October 29th, 2017, 5:15 pm

Then why are you managing? lol

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » October 29th, 2017, 5:15 pm

Nopros on Oct 29 2017, 11:15:00 AM wrote:Then why are you managing? lol
XxXApathy420XxX on Oct 29 2017, 10:42:18 AM wrote:I'm only here to promote this for <400.
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » October 29th, 2017, 5:19 pm

It's already in DtC, is sabotaging its placement there worth the possibility of an <400 entry?

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Post by Mario Gaborović » October 29th, 2017, 5:21 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 29 2017, 11:19:06 AM wrote:It's already in DtC, is sabotaging its placement there worth the possibility of an <400 entry?
Could be a cool test if there's general love for that film, though. I don't see it being that special, but it's not bad either.
I sent my two noms, so The Master now has at least four.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » October 29th, 2017, 5:21 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 29 2017, 11:19:06 AM wrote:It's already in DtC, is sabotaging its placement there worth the possibility of an <400 entry?
Aren't they on DtC for a few years anyways?

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Post by monty » October 29th, 2017, 5:32 pm

Why the sudden rush?

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Post by Armoreska » October 29th, 2017, 5:37 pm

monty on Oct 29 2017, 11:32:55 AM wrote:Why the sudden rush?
We're trying to send them early so we can start in November ;)
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Post by Mario Gaborović » October 29th, 2017, 5:37 pm

monty on Oct 29 2017, 11:32:55 AM wrote:Why the sudden rush?
Who's rushing?
It's normal that you watch national cinema from the tip of the mountain, and then you slowly go downwards towards less recognized films. Once you realize there's not much that can surprise you, just go over to another country/director/genre/etc.
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Post by monty » October 29th, 2017, 5:50 pm

Armoreska on Oct 29 2017, 11:37:04 AM wrote:
monty on Oct 29 2017, 11:32:55 AM wrote:Why the sudden rush?
We're trying to send them early so we can start in November ;)
I don't see that happening....

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Post by Mario Gaborović » October 29th, 2017, 5:53 pm

monty on Oct 29 2017, 11:50:20 AM wrote:
Armoreska on Oct 29 2017, 11:37:04 AM wrote:
monty on Oct 29 2017, 11:32:55 AM wrote:Why the sudden rush?
We're trying to send them early so we can start in November ;)
I don't see that happening....
You're J manager, I don't see how can you have troubles finding a good film. What have you been doing all your life?? :shrug:
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Post by maxwelldeux » October 29th, 2017, 6:52 pm

Would it be possible to get an "Explain like I'm five" version of the world cup and how to participate when this kicks off? I've been trying to follow, but I'm a tad confused...

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Post by Nathan Treadway » October 29th, 2017, 6:56 pm

maxwelldeux on Oct 29 2017, 12:52:52 PM wrote:Would it be possible to get an "Explain like I'm five" version of the world cup and how to participate when this kicks off? I've been trying to follow, but I'm a tad confused...
Basically, watch the films and rank the films. The first round will have 4 films, 2nd will have 3, and from then on, 2. The top two in the first round will advance.
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Post by Mario Gaborović » October 29th, 2017, 6:58 pm

maxwelldeux on Oct 29 2017, 12:52:52 PM wrote:Would it be possible to get an "Explain like I'm five" version of the world cup and how to participate when this kicks off? I've been trying to follow, but I'm a tad confused...
When you have seen all the four in the group, you just rank them by your preference. The film which has the positive record against other three advances, and the second one as well, while the 3rd and the 4th are eliminated. Of course the countries which those films belong to, are going further and in the second round, another film by another director is chosen.
In the second round the only difference is that only one of three films (one country, actually) is advancing. From then on it's 1vs1 until the final.

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Post by joachimt » October 29th, 2017, 6:59 pm

maxwelldeux on Oct 29 2017, 12:52:52 PM wrote:Would it be possible to get an "Explain like I'm five" version of the world cup and how to participate when this kicks off? I've been trying to follow, but I'm a tad confused...
For starters, this is in the OP:
How is the tournament going to be this season?
Round 1:
48 countries will be divided into 12 groups of 4 countries. #1 and #2 from each group proceed. Each match lasts for 4 weeks. Matches overlap 1.5 weeks.
Round 2:
24 countries will be divided into 8 groups of 3 countries. #1 from each group proceeds. Each match lasts for 3 week. Matches overlap 1 week.
Quarter finals, semi finals and final:
Countries compete one on one. Winner proceeds. Each match lasts for 2 weeks. Matches overlap 0.5 weeks.

Which movies are eligible?
- Less than 1000 checks (at the moment the movie is picked).
- Maximum runtime of 180 minutes.
- Only one movie per director in the whole season.
- No movies from season 1 or season 2.
- Coproductions are allowed, but with an explanation why a movie certainly belongs to the country it competes for.

If you want to dig back into the previous seasons, you can find all topics here.
Then you just need to know what a match is:

Let's say group A consists of France, USA, Serbia and Malaysia. The managers of each country selected a movie. A match lasts a few weeks. In those weeks everyone who's interested can watch those movies (or you've seen them before) and rank them. So you submit:
1. movie Malaysia
2. movie USA
3. movie France
4. movie Serbia
Everyone does so and this results in a score between the four movies. The best two proceeds to round 2. In round 2 we'll do groups of 3 and after that groups of 2.
Matches overlap a bit, but every match lasts for a certain amount of time with a strict deadline.

You can choose to participate in every match or just a few, whatever you like and suits your own schedule. But if you vote in a match, you have to vote for every movie in that group (so you should have seen them obviously).
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » October 29th, 2017, 7:06 pm

Is there an easy way to see which films are ineligible (because of participation in previous cups), all in one place, rather than having to dig through the threads for each round?
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Post by joachimt » October 29th, 2017, 7:19 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 29 2017, 01:06:27 PM wrote:Is there an easy way to see which films are ineligible (because of participation in previous cups), all in one place, rather than having to dig through the threads for each round?
There are two iCM-lists for both previous seasons. They are in the OP and also in my reply to maxwell a few posts back.
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Post by joachimt » October 29th, 2017, 7:28 pm

As requested by beavis a few posts/pages back:
Participating countries that didn't participate beforeShow
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Bulgaria
Burkina Faso
Dominican Republic
Latvia
Lebanon
Malaysia
Mali
Peru
Switzerland
Uruguay
Participating countries that participated in only one of the pre…Show
Austria
Croatia
Finland
Georgia
Morocco
Serbia
Vietnam
Participating countries that participated in all seasons so farShow
Argentina
Australia
Brazil
Canada
China
Czechia
England
France
Germany
Greece
Hong Kong
Hungary
India
Iran
Italy
Japan
Mexico
Netherlands
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Russia
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Taiwan
Thailand
Turkey
United States of America
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » October 29th, 2017, 7:30 pm

joachimt on Oct 29 2017, 01:19:00 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 29 2017, 01:06:27 PM wrote:Is there an easy way to see which films are ineligible (because of participation in previous cups), all in one place, rather than having to dig through the threads for each round?
There are two iCM-lists for both previous seasons. They are in the OP and also in my reply to maxwell a few posts back.
Yeah but you can't filter those lists by country.

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Post by sebby » October 29th, 2017, 7:31 pm

Lonewolf2003 on Oct 29 2017, 09:32:11 AM wrote:What about officialy starting on January 1st, but setting the deadline and revealing the movies before Christmas, so that people who have time and want to already can watch some of the movies?
Yes, let's do this.

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Post by maxwelldeux » October 29th, 2017, 7:35 pm

Thank you all - this helps!

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Post by joachimt » October 29th, 2017, 7:37 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 29 2017, 01:30:16 PM wrote:
joachimt on Oct 29 2017, 01:19:00 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 29 2017, 01:06:27 PM wrote:Is there an easy way to see which films are ineligible (because of participation in previous cups), all in one place, rather than having to dig through the threads for each round?
There are two iCM-lists for both previous seasons. They are in the OP and also in my reply to maxwell a few posts back.
Yeah but you can't filter those lists by country.
I'll put both lists together in one IMDb-list.
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Post by joachimt » October 29th, 2017, 7:51 pm

joachimt on Oct 29 2017, 01:37:01 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 29 2017, 01:30:16 PM wrote:
joachimt on Oct 29 2017, 01:19:00 PM wrote:There are two iCM-lists for both previous seasons. They are in the OP and also in my reply to maxwell a few posts back.
Yeah but you can't filter those lists by country.
I'll put both lists together in one IMDb-list.
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls025453371/
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Post by Mario Gaborović » October 29th, 2017, 10:39 pm

blocho on Oct 29 2017, 10:23:51 AM wrote:
sortile9io on Oct 29 2017, 09:16:30 AM wrote:Tha African and Islamic gaps are even more obvious on the map of participating countries:

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Perhaps, but I see seven majority Muslim countries plus several countries with significant Muslim populations (Russia, China, India).
Seven? I see eight:

Morocco, Mali, Burkina Faso, Turkey, Lebanon, Iran, Malaysia and Bosnia-Herzegovina.

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Post by Armoreska » October 29th, 2017, 10:54 pm

It's easy to forget about euro muslims. I only found out a few years ago.
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Post by sortile9io » October 30th, 2017, 8:41 am

Mario Gaborović on Oct 29 2017, 04:39:29 PM wrote:
blocho on Oct 29 2017, 10:23:51 AM wrote:
sortile9io on Oct 29 2017, 09:16:30 AM wrote:Tha African and Islamic gaps are even more obvious on the map of participating countries:

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Perhaps, but I see seven majority Muslim countries plus several countries with significant Muslim populations (Russia, China, India).
Seven? I see eight:

Morocco, Mali, Burkina Faso, Turkey, Lebanon, Iran, Malaysia and Bosnia-Herzegovina.
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