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Post by monty » March 9th, 2017, 12:55 pm

Congrats, sorti, your planning was impeccable. :party: :banana: :party:

Also, a big hand to everyone who has taken part in this edition of the Cup. :cheers:
And of course, last but not least, here's to Joachim for making the magic happen. :clap: :party:
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Post by zhangalan » March 9th, 2017, 2:09 pm

Congrat, Sorti&#127882;&#127881;&#128079;

Also brilliant as the only manager who is able to enter the finale in both seasons.

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Post by brokenface » March 9th, 2017, 2:39 pm

Congrats to the winner!

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Post by monty » March 9th, 2017, 2:43 pm

My only gripe is that I'd have loved to see more recent Italian cinema being picked but I guess that would have been too risky a venture. Better safe than sorry, right?

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Post by Angel Glez » March 9th, 2017, 2:57 pm

Great job everyone, with special mention to the host. :cheers:
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Post by tommy_leazaq » March 9th, 2017, 6:42 pm

Congrats Sorti..

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Post by klaus78 » March 9th, 2017, 7:05 pm

Congratulations, sortile9io!
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Post by monty » March 9th, 2017, 7:48 pm

Waiting for the thank-you-ladies-and-gentlemen-of-the-jury speech...

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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 9th, 2017, 8:01 pm

Let's make it official, then:

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Italy wins the cup.

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Post by sortile9io » March 9th, 2017, 8:35 pm

Well, I'm veeery happy! It was great to have such an excellent contender in the final, it makes victory even more valuable. So big thanks to all who supported me with their votes. Thanks for the compliments too. And to joachimt and Mario for their essential dedication. Hopefully I've contributed to increase love for Italian cinema, discover a few gems and made this competition more gratifying. See you next season?

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Post by joachimt » March 9th, 2017, 8:42 pm

Mario Gaborović on Mar 9 2017, 01:01:38 PM wrote:Let's make it official, then:

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Italy wins the cup.
Same count here. Congrats to Italy and of course its manager! Well played.

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Post by Armoreska » March 9th, 2017, 8:51 pm

Did we beat WC1-A1 participation?
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Post by joachimt » March 9th, 2017, 8:57 pm

Armoreska on Mar 9 2017, 01:51:15 PM wrote:Did we beat WC1-A1 participation?
WC1:

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Post by Armoreska » March 9th, 2017, 9:02 pm

Damn that was a high watermark, but the average must have risen by 10.
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Post by Nathan Treadway » March 9th, 2017, 9:03 pm

10 rounds. I'll have perfect attendance next round. (We are doing this again, right?)
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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 9th, 2017, 9:05 pm

So far 60 countries participated, and Spain performed best in average: 10 wins and 2 losses.
I'm interested which one would sortile9io pick next time. In his place, I'd change.

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Post by joachimt » March 9th, 2017, 9:51 pm

Nathan_Treadway on Mar 9 2017, 02:03:51 PM wrote:10 rounds. I'll have perfect attendance next round. (We are doing this again, right?)
Probably will. But after we finish the 3rd place match, let's take a break for a while. Maybe after summer......
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Post by monty » March 9th, 2017, 10:03 pm

joachimt on Mar 9 2017, 02:51:24 PM wrote:
Nathan_Treadway on Mar 9 2017, 02:03:51 PM wrote:10 rounds. I'll have perfect attendance next round. (We are doing this again, right?)
Probably will. But after we finish the 3rd place match, let's take a break for a while. Maybe after summer......
Meanwhile we could do a single-genre cup, like a sex comedy one?

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Post by joachimt » March 9th, 2017, 10:14 pm

monty on Mar 9 2017, 03:03:22 PM wrote:
joachimt on Mar 9 2017, 02:51:24 PM wrote:
Nathan_Treadway on Mar 9 2017, 02:03:51 PM wrote:10 rounds. I'll have perfect attendance next round. (We are doing this again, right?)
Probably will. But after we finish the 3rd place match, let's take a break for a while. Maybe after summer......
Meanwhile we could do a single-genre cup, like a sex comedy one?
Well, you can start one and see how many participate. I won't host it.
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Post by monty » March 9th, 2017, 10:20 pm

joachimt on Mar 9 2017, 03:14:16 PM wrote:
monty on Mar 9 2017, 03:03:22 PM wrote:
joachimt on Mar 9 2017, 02:51:24 PM wrote:Probably will. But after we finish the 3rd place match, let's take a break for a while. Maybe after summer......
Meanwhile we could do a single-genre cup, like a sex comedy one?
Well, you can start one and see how many participate. I won't host it.
So what are you saying, that you won't host a single genre cup or is it just a sex comedy cup you're against?
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Post by joachimt » March 9th, 2017, 10:31 pm

monty on Mar 9 2017, 03:20:59 PM wrote:
joachimt on Mar 9 2017, 03:14:16 PM wrote:
monty on Mar 9 2017, 03:03:22 PM wrote:Meanwhile we could do a single-genre cup, like a sex comedy one?
Well, you can start one and see how many participate. I won't host it.
So what are you saying, that you won't host a single genre cup or is it just a sex comedy cup you're against?
I won't host a genre cup, because I don't support a cup movies from only one genre.

But would you host it?
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Post by monty » March 9th, 2017, 10:39 pm

First things first, how about a poll to find out if there's sufficient interest?
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Post by Armoreska » March 9th, 2017, 11:02 pm

monty on Mar 9 2017, 03:39:36 PM wrote:First things first, how about a poll to find out if there's sufficient interest?
But maybe do a poll if there should be a poll first. People should be as ready as possible for these big happenings.
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Post by sortile9io » March 10th, 2017, 12:20 am

Mario Gaborović on Mar 9 2017, 02:05:59 PM wrote:I'm interested which one would sortile9io pick next time. In his place, I'd change.
I will change. That's all I know for now.

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Post by monty » March 10th, 2017, 12:24 am

sortile9io on Mar 9 2017, 05:20:40 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Mar 9 2017, 02:05:59 PM wrote:I'm interested which one would sortile9io pick next time. In his place, I'd change.
I will change. That's all I know for now.
Here's hoping you go with a South American country.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » March 10th, 2017, 12:57 am

If it's just a comedy cup and it's smaller in scope (16-24 countries) I'd be interested. If it's Sex Comedies then that's too specific a genre and I wouldn't participate. A genre cup that lasts a year would also not be of interest to me.

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Post by tommy_leazaq » March 10th, 2017, 7:31 am

I have maintained 100% participation across the two cups but I definitely need a break now. Can't again go watch a obscure movie a week for more than a year from 2-3 months again. Lots of great classics to catch up and this cup hinders that . So I'd appreciate if we have a longer break this time. In the meantime we can have smaller tournament based on genres or regions like.

This WC started in Jan-16 and ended in Mar-17.. I guess we can follow the same time line hereafter, like the next cup from Jan-18 to Mar-19 and so on..
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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 10th, 2017, 7:36 am

I'm in for a comedy cup but no country-related one. Just film against film.

I'd love to see another 48 films in the WC even if that requires a little break, with all genres included.

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Post by jvv » March 10th, 2017, 9:38 am

tommy_leazaq on Mar 10 2017, 12:31:06 AM wrote:I have maintained 100% participation across the two cups but I definitely need a break now.
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Post by joachimt » March 10th, 2017, 9:56 am

Mario Gaborović on Mar 10 2017, 12:36:17 AM wrote:I'm in for a comedy cup but no country-related one. Just film against film.
Don't know how this will work. If it's not country-related, how do we select movies? And who proceeds to the next round if it's not a country? Just a manager?
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » March 10th, 2017, 10:07 am

joachimt on Mar 10 2017, 02:56:48 AM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Mar 10 2017, 12:36:17 AM wrote:I'm in for a comedy cup but no country-related one. Just film against film.
Don't know how this will work. If it's not country-related, how do we select movies? And who proceeds to the next round if it's not a country? Just a manager?
The movie proceeds to the next round. Would make subsequent rounds go quicker.

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Post by sortile9io » March 10th, 2017, 11:56 am

I'm also a bit tired. As a matter of fact I was considering resigning from management for the next cup if it was to start right away. I hope the next edition is shorter. And I don't think I would be very interested in that small in-between genre tournament (that you could name appropriately enough Spring Break Cup) either.
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » March 10th, 2017, 12:07 pm

Congrats sorti! :cheers: :party: A most deserved victory it was. Like I said before every movie you chosen I favorited :clap:


I'm also for a break and not starting again till after the summer. I'm also for a genre cup; meaning that every round is a different pre-estabilished genre, not the whole cup one genre only. I'm totally against non-country cup, then it's just random movies agains each other. We could after the 3rd place match start a preperations topic to discuss this all, and a sign-up topic so managers have some months to prepare for the next Cup.
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Post by brokenface » March 10th, 2017, 1:29 pm

I'm all for a break.

Personally, if we did a smaller competition, i'd rather something like a single continent than single genre:

e.g. S.America. You could have 12 countries (Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Peru, Chile, Bolivia, Venezuela, Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador + Mexico & Cuba). 4 groups of 3, winners go through to semi-finals + final. would be an 18 film tournament so not quite so daunting.

or Asia, maybe a 16 country tournament with straight KOs (16+8+4+2 = 30 films total)

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or another idea I had for next full world cup would be to limit to 21st century films. That would even out some of the advantage that countries with loads of established canon classics have..

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Post by metaller » March 10th, 2017, 1:49 pm

I agree to the notion of a bit of a break until the next edition. Both seasons were fun, but I have a big backlog and a huge watchlist that also cries for attention and is jeaulous of the world cup films.

In general I like the idea of smaller region specific or genre cups, but also not right now. For myself, I want a bit of downtime and no "scheduled" films that I have to watch to certain deadlines for a while.


Also, congratulations to the victor, and thanks a lot to Joachim for doing most of the work and putting in so much effort to make this all happen. It is really appreciated. (l)
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Post by monty » March 10th, 2017, 2:20 pm

Don't forget the 3rd place match, guys.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » March 10th, 2017, 3:07 pm

brokenface on Mar 10 2017, 06:29:52 AM wrote:I'm all for a break.

Personally, if we did a smaller competition, i'd rather something like a single continent than single genre:

e.g. S.America. You could have 12 countries (Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Peru, Chile, Bolivia, Venezuela, Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador + Mexico & Cuba). 4 groups of 3, winners go through to semi-finals + final. would be an 18 film tournament so not quite so daunting.

or Asia, maybe a 16 country tournament with straight KOs (16+8+4+2 = 30 films total)

--

or another idea I had for next full world cup would be to limit to 21st century films. That would even out some of the advantage that countries with loads of established canon classics have..
I like the idea for a smaller Cup with a region, especially with just KO matches. I also like the idea for a limit to 21st century films, maybe we could set this limit for one round. Since on the other hand part of the appeal of the WC is to discover hidden gems from yesteryears.

I do mean I like to do this in a few months time or after the summer, not straight away.
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Post by monty » March 10th, 2017, 3:20 pm

Yeah, let's have a break after the 3rd place match is decided.
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » March 10th, 2017, 4:38 pm

Lonewolf2003 on Mar 10 2017, 08:07:49 AM wrote:
brokenface on Mar 10 2017, 06:29:52 AM wrote:I'm all for a break.

Personally, if we did a smaller competition, i'd rather something like a single continent than single genre:

e.g. S.America. You could have 12 countries (Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Peru, Chile, Bolivia, Venezuela, Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador + Mexico & Cuba). 4 groups of 3, winners go through to semi-finals + final. would be an 18 film tournament so not quite so daunting.

or Asia, maybe a 16 country tournament with straight KOs (16+8+4+2 = 30 films total)

--

or another idea I had for next full world cup would be to limit to 21st century films. That would even out some of the advantage that countries with loads of established canon classics have..
I like the idea for a smaller Cup with a region, especially with just KO matches. I also like the idea for a limit to 21st century films, maybe we could set this limit for one round. Since on the other hand part of the appeal of the WC is to discover hidden gems from yesteryears.

I do mean I like to do this in a few months time or after the summer, not straight away.
What about something like this:
An Asia Cup, 16 countries, only knock-out matches with fixed "genres".
First round = 21st century
Quarter Finals = comedy
Semi Finals = crime
Finals = drama

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