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World Cup, Season 2, Match Final: Italy vs USA

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World Cup, Season 2, Match Final: Italy vs USA

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Post by joachimt » February 22nd, 2017, 8:53 pm

This is match Final of the second season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
ItalyUna giornata particolareA Special Day1977sortile9iolinklink
USALonesome1928klaus78linklink

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- You must watch both films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

Voting deadline = Mar 8th
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The winner of the match is the film with the most #1-votes. Of there's a tie at the deadline, there'll be a three day extension.
Here's a quick summary of how the tournament worksShow
We start with 48 films from 48 countries.
The winning country from each match advances, and will be represented by a different film in the next round.
There are 5 rounds. In round 1 there are 3 films per match (only 1 advances). In rounds 2-5 there are 2 films per match.
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Post by beavis » February 22nd, 2017, 9:08 pm

Una giornata particolare - 8,5
Lonesome - 6,5

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Post by tarr » February 22nd, 2017, 9:15 pm

1. Una giornata particolare 9/10
2. Lonesome 7/10
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Post by Gershwin » February 22nd, 2017, 9:20 pm

tarr on Feb 22 2017, 02:15:13 PM wrote:1. Una giornata particolare 9/10
2. Lonesome 7/10
Same here.
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Post by joachimt » February 22nd, 2017, 10:54 pm

Gershwin on Feb 22 2017, 02:20:19 PM wrote:
tarr on Feb 22 2017, 02:15:13 PM wrote:1. Una giornata particolare 9/10
2. Lonesome 7/10
Same here.
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Post by brokenface » February 22nd, 2017, 10:58 pm

1. Lonesome
2. A Special Day

Both really great films. Special Day has more depth, but Lonesome just a bit more of a personal favourite.

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Post by klaus78 » February 22nd, 2017, 11:08 pm

1. Lonesome (USA) 9/10
2. Una giornata particolare (Italy) 8/10
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Post by zhangalan » February 23rd, 2017, 12:51 am

Great choice for USA.

1. Lonesome
2. A Special Day

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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 23rd, 2017, 9:17 am

ImageUna giornata particolare - ImageLonesome: 4 - 3

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Post by jvv » February 23rd, 2017, 10:31 pm

1. Una giornata particolare - 8/10
2. Lonesome - 6.5/10

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Post by clemmetarey » February 23rd, 2017, 11:23 pm

1. Una giornata particolare (1977) 8/10
2. Lonesome (1928) 7/10

First time in the world cup where I've seen both films already.

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Post by zuma » February 24th, 2017, 12:08 am

01. Una giornata particolare

02. Lonesome

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Post by HVM » February 24th, 2017, 11:12 am

1. Lonesome 7/10
2. Una giornata particolare 7/10
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Post by Lilarcor » February 24th, 2017, 8:46 pm

1. Una giornata particolare 8/10
2. Lonesome 7/10

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Post by joachimt » February 24th, 2017, 8:51 pm

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Post by Cocoa » February 25th, 2017, 2:33 am

1. Lonesome 8/10
2. Una giornata particolare 6/10

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Post by sebby » February 25th, 2017, 7:14 am

1. A Special Day - 8/10
2. Lonesome - 7/10

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Post by RBG » February 25th, 2017, 11:54 pm

1. lonesome

2. a special day (wasn't all that special) i did like the look of the film - fascist brownshirt

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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 26th, 2017, 12:16 am

Sofia filmed Fortunate Pilgrim in my hometown in 1988. The coulisses that played buildings were just 50m airline from my window.

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Post by toro913 » February 26th, 2017, 4:38 am

1. A Special Day
2. Lonesome

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Post by Carmel1379 » February 26th, 2017, 9:54 am

#1 Una giornata particolare (1977, Ettore Scola)
#2 Lonesome (1928, Paul Fejos)
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Post by joachimt » February 26th, 2017, 10:20 am

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Post by sortile9io » February 26th, 2017, 10:28 am

Mario Gaborović on Feb 25 2017, 05:16:25 PM wrote:Sofia filmed Fortunate Pilgrim in my hometown in 1988. The coulisses that played buildings were just 50m airline from my window.
Not a bad way to start the day: waking up and seeing Sophia Loren through your window.

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Post by Melvelet » February 26th, 2017, 11:54 am

1. Una giornata particolare 8+/10
2. Lonesome 7/10

The sound parts of Lonesome are horrible. I got the feelng that the producer who had the greeeat idea of including those scenes also wrote the dialogues himself.
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Post by joachimt » February 26th, 2017, 12:06 pm

Lonesome was already on our fav-movies list and A Special Day wasn't. I wonder if this match will change that.
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Post by Armoreska » February 26th, 2017, 12:12 pm

The Italians may start celebrating all through the next week.
Me, yet to see any of the two.
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Post by cayado-coro » February 26th, 2017, 4:54 pm

1. Lonesome
2. Una giornata particolare

Two great films.

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Post by monty » February 26th, 2017, 4:57 pm

Armoreska on Feb 26 2017, 05:12:03 AM wrote:The Italians may start celebrating all through the next week.
Do we actually have any Italian members?

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Post by Armoreska » February 26th, 2017, 5:22 pm

monty on Feb 26 2017, 09:57:45 AM wrote:
Armoreska on Feb 26 2017, 05:12:03 AM wrote:The Italians may start celebrating all through the next week.
Do we actually have any Italian members?
I only recall Onshy who's not around that much. Other than that, maybe there's somebody from among the IMDb refugees
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » February 26th, 2017, 5:35 pm

1. Una giornata particolare (1977): 8.8 - I have to congratulate sortile9io, every movie he picked for Italy was a complete hit for me; I favorited them all. Italy really deserves to win this cup for me. This was one was no exception, although I already had seen this one twice and it was already a favorite, it's again an excellent movie from Italy and excellent choice by sortile9io.

2. Lonesome (1928): 7.5 - oh l'amour (l) . Another example that a simple movie about love can be good. But the sound part really fell out of tone with the rest of the picture, and also some of the other innovative stuff like the imposed colors distracted more than added to it for me.
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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 26th, 2017, 8:30 pm

sortile9io on Feb 26 2017, 03:28:52 AM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Feb 25 2017, 05:16:25 PM wrote:Sofia filmed Fortunate Pilgrim in my hometown in 1988. The coulisses that played buildings were just 50m airline from my window.
Not a bad way to start the day: waking up and seeing Sophia Loren through your window.
Too bad I was quite small back then and still asexual. :lol: Also 7 years ago Ralph Fiennes was 50m from me (though from the other side, where my balcony is) but I find no charisma within him.

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Post by Smoover » February 26th, 2017, 11:51 pm

1. Una giornata particolare 8/10
2. Lonesome 7/10

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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 26th, 2017, 11:55 pm

Armoreska on Feb 26 2017, 10:22:34 AM wrote:
monty on Feb 26 2017, 09:57:45 AM wrote:
Armoreska on Feb 26 2017, 05:12:03 AM wrote:The Italians may start celebrating all through the next week.
Do we actually have any Italian members?
I only recall Onshy who's not around that much. Other than that, maybe there's somebody from among the IMDb refugees
Once they discover the forum it's gonna be impossible to beat Italy in the WC 'cause tons of good films paired with that hypothetical invasion of theirs.
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Post by mjf314 » February 27th, 2017, 10:11 am

1. Una giornata particolare
2. Lonesome

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Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » February 27th, 2017, 12:57 pm

U.S.A. - 1st place
Italy - 2nd place
That's all, folks!

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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 27th, 2017, 1:09 pm

ImageUna giornata particolare - ImageLonesome: 15 - 8

10 days left.
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Post by metaller » February 27th, 2017, 2:35 pm

Okay, I have seen both films before, but I initially wanted to rewatch them before the deadline.
But I have too much stuff coming up IRL, so I don't really want to invest time in those rewatches.
Both are really good films, but I overall prefer the touching simplicity of Lonesome, that tells a simple story to near perfection. The Italian entry is swell too, with the two central performances being the highlight for me.

1. Lonesome 8/10
2. Giornata 7.5/10
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Post by jdidaco » February 27th, 2017, 4:13 pm

Two very good films indeed; great final:

1. Lonesome
2. Una giornata particolare

My enthusiastic reaction when I watched 'Lonesome' five years ago at a Silent Film Festival: "I saw Fejös exceptionally beautiful and poignant film ‘Lonesome’ on a pristine 35mm print from the George Eastman House. I was riveted by the juxtapositions of the first images, the actors' interplay (especially Glenn Tryon's body language), and, for me at least, the wonderfully surprising and touching final shot. Another aspect I quiet liked (although I may be alone in this) were the few talking scenes which I found rather charming in their primitive awkwardness, especially the first one on the beach, it reminded me of the same simplicity of Rohmer's "beach/summer films"." I love Scola's too, having the opportunity to watch it a couple of times during theatrical revivals (it’s a perennial favorite in this city, like many Scolas are), featuring remarkable “against-type” performances from the two stars.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » February 27th, 2017, 4:32 pm

Which city is that?

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Post by wasabi » February 27th, 2017, 5:53 pm

1. Una giornata particolare
2. Lonesome
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