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World Cup, Season 2, Match SF-B: Spain vs USA

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World Cup, Season 2, Match SF-B: Spain vs USA

#1

Post by joachimt » February 5th, 2017, 11:52 am

This is match SF-B of the second season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
SpainElisa, vida míaElisa, My Life1976montylinklink
USAYellow Sky1948klaus78linklink

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- You must watch both films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

Voting deadline = Feb 19th
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The winner of the match is the film with the most #1-votes. Of there's a tie at the deadline, there'll be a three day extension.
Here's a quick summary of how the tournament worksShow
We start with 48 films from 48 countries.
The winning country from each match advances, and will be represented by a different film in the next round.
There are 5 rounds. In round 1 there are 3 films per match (only 1 advances). In rounds 2-5 there are 2 films per match.
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Post by joachimt » February 5th, 2017, 11:57 am

I wonder if we'll see an increase in participation now we got a lot of new users this week. If you want to join, don't forget to vote for match A of the semifinals. You've got 4 days left for that one.
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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 5th, 2017, 12:49 pm

1. Yellow Sky
2. Elisa, vida mía

By a whisker; otherwise, lamer match than the first one.

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Post by clemmetarey » February 5th, 2017, 1:39 pm

1. Elisa, vida mia (1976) 5/10
2. Yellow Sky (1948) 5/10

Not the best match of this WC.

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Post by Smoover » February 5th, 2017, 2:29 pm

1. Elisa, vida mia 8/10
2. Yellow Sky 7.5/10

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Post by toro913 » February 5th, 2017, 3:27 pm

By a mile:
1. Yellow Sky
2. Elisa, ma vida

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Post by brokenface » February 5th, 2017, 3:45 pm

1. Yellow Sky
2. Elisa

I do like Carlos Saura but this one not one that i particularly liked. I'd have gone with Anna and the Wolves personally.

Yellow Sky is a good one. Peck is never my favourite but i remember liking the look & feel of the film and there's some good support cast too.
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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 5th, 2017, 10:11 pm

ImageElisa, vida mía - ImageYellow Sky: 2 - 3

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Post by Cocoa » February 5th, 2017, 10:30 pm

I watched Yellow Sky about two years ago and I honestly don't really remember anything about it (besides that it was a western that I think I watched on Hulu), but I rated it higher than the other film so Yellow Sky gets my vote.

1. Yellow Sky 6/10
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Post by zuma » February 6th, 2017, 3:25 am

01. Yellow Sky

02. Elisa, vida mía

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Post by weirdboy » February 6th, 2017, 5:18 pm

1. Yellow Sky
2. Elisa, vida mia

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Post by beavis » February 6th, 2017, 11:35 pm

Elisa, vida mía - 8,5
Yellow Sky - 6,5

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Post by klaus78 » February 7th, 2017, 12:27 am

1. Yellow Sky (USA) 8/10
2. Elisa, vida mía (Spain) 6.5/10
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Post by monty » February 7th, 2017, 12:34 am

Might as well vote then too.

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Post by sortile9io » February 7th, 2017, 12:38 am

monty, why did you pick "Elisa, vida mía" rather than other Saura's works?
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Post by monty » February 7th, 2017, 12:43 am

sortile9io on Feb 6 2017, 05:38:47 PM wrote:monty, why did you picked "Elisa, vida mía" rather than other Saura's works?
Because it's a great film which is desperately underseen here. Thought I'd give it a little boost. I could of course have gone for a safer pick but then again, isn't a big part of the Cup about giving little seen films exposure?

Finally, allow me to quote the Beaver:
Even if not set in the dance medium, especially flamenco and tango, with which Saura is generally linked, this movie is highly personal. Saura is one of the very few directors who succeed to be very national in its cinematographic language."Elisa" is no exception: the outdoor images, looking like De Greco and Goya paintings, the stunning performance of the actors remembering sometimes flamenco intensity, give to this movie a glorious cinematographic presence. The issue which stands in the center of this movie is a universally and uneasy one: the relation between father and daughter. Saura knows to avoid a tabloid depiction of this relation, although it doesn't avoid the border-line oedipal tensions. Throughout settled mostly in a chamber-music like duet, it doesn't have the claustrophobic Bergman character. The movie is a love duet, with its aggressive and passionate outcome. Awesome experience.

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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 7th, 2017, 1:11 am

If Spain loses this time, 3rd place match is gonna be a perfect for sex comedy instead. :lol:

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Post by cayado-coro » February 8th, 2017, 11:51 am

1. Yellow Sky
2. Elisa, vida mía

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Post by joachimt » February 8th, 2017, 6:49 pm

1. Yellow Sky 8/10
2. Elisa, vida mía 7/10
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Post by joachimt » February 8th, 2017, 6:50 pm

ImageElisa, vida mía - ImageYellow Sky: 4 - 9
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Post by jvv » February 10th, 2017, 2:45 am

Elisa, vida mia - I had a hard time keeping track of what was supposed to be reality and what was supposed to be dreams/memories/fantasy.
Yellow Sky - Gregory Peck as a bad guy, even if it's a "noble" one, just doesn't feel right.

1. Yellow Sky - 6/10
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Post by monty » February 10th, 2017, 2:49 am

Seems it doesn't pay to pick challenging films...

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Post by RBG » February 10th, 2017, 2:51 am

omg gregory peck is the hottest bad guy. haven't you seen 'duel in the sun'??

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i wish he'd done more villains. problem with 'yellow sky' is the last 10 mins sooo clearly added to satisfy the hays code
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » February 10th, 2017, 3:00 am

Imo Gregory Peck looked better with a stache. Like in the Gunfighter.
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Post by monty » February 10th, 2017, 3:06 am

Really? Is this what World Cup film discussion has degenerated into - discussing the sex appeal of leading men? So sad.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » February 10th, 2017, 3:12 am

monty on Feb 9 2017, 08:06:20 PM wrote:Really? Is this what World Cup film discussion has degenerated into - discussing the sex appeal of leading men? So sad.
It is unfortunate. This is what happens when you don't nominate sex comedies for the world cup.
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Post by monty » February 10th, 2017, 3:16 am

Ettinauer226XL on Feb 9 2017, 08:12:59 PM wrote:
monty on Feb 9 2017, 08:06:20 PM wrote:Really? Is this what World Cup film discussion has degenerated into - discussing the sex appeal of leading men? So sad.
It is unfortunate. This is what happens when you don't nominate sex comedies for the world cup.
Well, that's because I couldn't decide if I should go with a gay or straight sex comedy. What's your advice?

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » February 10th, 2017, 3:19 am

monty on Feb 9 2017, 08:16:44 PM wrote:
Ettinauer226XL on Feb 9 2017, 08:12:59 PM wrote:
monty on Feb 9 2017, 08:06:20 PM wrote:Really? Is this what World Cup film discussion has degenerated into - discussing the sex appeal of leading men? So sad.
It is unfortunate. This is what happens when you don't nominate sex comedies for the world cup.
Well, that's because I couldn't decide if I should go with a gay or straight sex comedy. What's your advice?
Bisexuality would make both parties happy.
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Post by tarr » February 10th, 2017, 5:08 pm

1. Elisa, vida mia
2. Yellow Sky
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Post by joachimt » February 10th, 2017, 5:09 pm

ImageElisa, vida mía - ImageYellow Sky: 5 - 10
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Post by BijitaQ » February 10th, 2017, 6:35 pm

1. Elisa, vida mía [Elisa, My Life] (1977)
2. Yellow Sky (1948)

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Post by sortile9io » February 10th, 2017, 8:24 pm

1. Yellow sky — 7/10 (Rewatch)
2. Elisa, vida mía — 7/10 (Rewatch)

As much as I like Saura's films of the 60s-70s, I have to concede an advantage to Wellman's western. I appreciated the complex and introspective nature of "Elisa, vida mía" as well as its austere yet somehow magical settings. But in the end, I enjoyed more the straight story of greed and redemption through love (and a Bible). I must admit though that Peck lacks the vigor and malice I would expect in his role, specially after getting rid of his whiskers.

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Post by weirdboy » February 10th, 2017, 9:39 pm

Should have cast Robert Mitchum instead.

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Post by Carmel1379 » February 12th, 2017, 5:47 am

#1 Elisa, vida mía (1977, Carlos Saura)
#2 Yellow Sky (1948, William A. Wellman)
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Post by Armoreska » February 12th, 2017, 10:56 am

Sky 7/10
Elisa 6/10

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Post by Lilarcor » February 12th, 2017, 11:25 pm

1. Elisa, vida mía 7/10
2. Yellow Sky 7/10

Elisa, vida mía left me with more to think about, but I wasn't crazy for the execution. Yellow Sky has amazing cinematography and locations, have to agree with RBG that the ending is ridiculous though, pulls the rug under the whole movie for me.

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Post by bjornam » February 13th, 2017, 1:22 am

1. Elisa, vida mía
2. Yellow Sky

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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 13th, 2017, 1:23 am

ImageElisa, vida mía - ImageYellow Sky: 9 - 12

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Post by HVM » February 13th, 2017, 7:29 pm

1. Elisa, vida mía 6.5/10
2. Yellow Sky 6/10
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Post by Mochard » February 13th, 2017, 8:33 pm

1. Yellow Sky - 8/10
2. Elisa, vida mía - 5/10

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