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World Cup, Season 2, Match SF-A: Egypt vs Italy

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World Cup, Season 2, Match SF-A: Egypt vs Italy

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Post by joachimt » January 30th, 2017, 2:15 pm

Image678 - ImageIl posto: 0 - 15

I wonder what tommy's vote will be. If he won't vote for Egypt, then who will? :shrug:
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Post by monty » January 30th, 2017, 2:20 pm

At least tommy's got a new record to be proud of - the most one-sided match in iCM WC history.

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Post by joachimt » January 30th, 2017, 2:22 pm

Well, he should be proud for reaching the semifinals with such a small movie-country. Quite an accomplishment.
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Post by sortile9io » January 30th, 2017, 2:50 pm

Even more considering he had to beat Russia and Japan to get here.

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Post by monty » January 30th, 2017, 3:02 pm

sortile9io on Jan 30 2017, 07:50:48 AM wrote:Even more considering he had to beat Russia and Japan to get here.
How a middling Egyptian film could ever beat a powerful Russian effort still remains a mystery to me. As for the match against Japan, Egypt never would have progressed but for the off-beat Japanese choice. All in all, Egypt making it this far is a fluke.
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#46

Post by monty » January 30th, 2017, 5:47 pm

1. Il posto





















2. 678 (An important topic but overly preachy in its delivery.)
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#47

Post by metaller » January 31st, 2017, 6:32 pm

Yeah, I can't really do anything other than go with everyone else here. The Egyptian entry isn't bad, in fact I liked it once the three storylines got connected, But I thought it took a really long time to get going and the level of craftmanship wasn't something that kept me engaged too much either.
Il Posto is a really good combination of different styles, from funny and dark satire to nice romance to its cores of neorealism. And it worked well in all aspects and I was just awed by its fanatstic final scene.

1. Il posto 7.5/10
2. 678 6.5/10
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#48

Post by monty » February 1st, 2017, 2:48 pm

Image678 - ImageIl posto: 0 - 17

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#49

Post by Mario Gaborović » February 1st, 2017, 2:57 pm

tommy_leazaq you shouldn't be demoralized because of this, I think losing by -1 is much more heartbreaking than obvious lack of chances.

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Post by SkilledLunatic » February 1st, 2017, 3:08 pm

Also the fact this is the semifinals and many movies countries have already bite the dust.

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#51

Post by jvv » February 1st, 2017, 6:52 pm

678 - An important subject, but the movie just wants to hammer it in.
Il posto - Best New Year's Eve party ever. :party:

1. Il posto 7.5/10
2. 678 6.5/10

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Post by monty » February 1st, 2017, 6:54 pm

Image678 - ImageIl posto: 0 - 18

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Post by brokenface » February 1st, 2017, 8:48 pm

Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 07:57:47 AM wrote:tommy_leazaq you shouldn't be demoralized because of this, I think losing by -1 is much more heartbreaking than obvious lack of chances.
Indeed. I doubt any Egyptian films he could've picked would've done better against a film like Il posto which has a strong following on here already and being limited by the fact all of the best bets for Egypt already picked so ineligible (Al-mummia, Cairo Station, Curlew's Cry)

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Post by monty » February 1st, 2017, 10:17 pm

Can we just start on the next match and get this over with? I mean, the outcome of this match is a foregone conclusion anyhow.
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Post by mjf314 » February 1st, 2017, 10:46 pm

brokenface on Feb 1 2017, 01:48:28 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 07:57:47 AM wrote:tommy_leazaq you shouldn't be demoralized because of this, I think losing by -1 is much more heartbreaking than obvious lack of chances.
Indeed. I doubt any Egyptian films he could've picked would've done better against a film like Il posto which has a strong following on here already and being limited by the fact all of the best bets for Egypt already picked so ineligible (Al-mummia, Cairo Station, Curlew's Cry)
The Square (2013) might have been his best bet (100% RT score with 60 reviews), but I think Il posto still would've won.

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Post by joachimt » February 1st, 2017, 10:55 pm

monty on Feb 1 2017, 03:17:18 PM wrote:Can we just start on the next match and get this over with? I mean, the outcome of this match is a foregone conclusion anyhow.
No.
The WC is not only about the outcome. It's also about people watching movies. Some people don't watch 2 movies a day, so they appreciate the rather moderate pace.
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Post by SkilledLunatic » February 1st, 2017, 11:02 pm

joachimt on Feb 1 2017, 03:55:03 PM wrote:
monty on Feb 1 2017, 03:17:18 PM wrote:Can we just start on the next match and get this over with? I mean, the outcome of this match is a foregone conclusion anyhow.
No.
The WC is not only about the outcome. It's also about people watching movies. Some people don't watch 2 movies a day, so they appreciate the rather moderate pace.
Well said :clap: .

The WC is just an excuse/motivation for us to watch classic/obscure foreign films and I love it. It was an brilliant idea.
I'm someone who appreciates this slow pace because I'm waiting for my exams to end to watch 6, 7, 8 in tranquility.

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#58

Post by Mario Gaborović » February 2nd, 2017, 12:56 am

Yes and I want to advocate more new countries in the next WC such as Peru, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Uruguay...

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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 12:59 am

Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 05:56:01 PM wrote:Yes and I want to advocate more new countries in the next WC such as Peru, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Uruguay...
So does that mean you think the current batch was a bad one? I think we've had quite a decent selection of countries both times around.
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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 2nd, 2017, 1:00 am

monty on Feb 1 2017, 05:59:07 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 05:56:01 PM wrote:Yes and I want to advocate more new countries in the next WC such as Peru, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Uruguay...
So does that mean you think the current batch was a bad one?
No but I can live without Philippines and Thailand again.

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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 1:02 am

Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 06:00:09 PM wrote:
monty on Feb 1 2017, 05:59:07 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 05:56:01 PM wrote:Yes and I want to advocate more new countries in the next WC such as Peru, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Uruguay...
So does that mean you think the current batch was a bad one?
No but I can live without Philippines and Thailand again.
And I'm not too thrilled about having Bosnia and Herzegovina. :lol:

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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 2nd, 2017, 1:07 am

monty on Feb 1 2017, 06:02:58 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 06:00:09 PM wrote:
monty on Feb 1 2017, 05:59:07 PM wrote:So does that mean you think the current batch was a bad one?
No but I can live without Philippines and Thailand again.
And I'm not too thrilled about having Bosnia and Herzegovina. :lol:
Bosnia and Herzegovina has Cannes' Palme d'Or and Berlin Golden bear, which is certainly more than what Norway has. :whistling:
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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 1:20 am

Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 06:07:26 PM wrote:
monty on Feb 1 2017, 06:02:58 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 06:00:09 PM wrote:No but I can live without Philippines and Thailand again.
And I'm not too thrilled about having Bosnia and Herzegovina. :lol:
Bosnia and Herzegovina has Cannes' Palme d'Or and Berlin Golden bear, which is certainly more than what Norway has. :whistling:
I see your Palme d'Or and raise you two Oscars; 1 + 2 :lol:
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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 2nd, 2017, 1:25 am

monty on Feb 1 2017, 06:20:22 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 06:07:26 PM wrote:
monty on Feb 1 2017, 06:02:58 PM wrote:And I'm not too thrilled about having Bosnia and Herzegovina. :lol:
Bosnia and Herzegovina has Cannes' Palme d'Or and Berlin Golden bear, which is certainly more than what Norway has. :whistling:
I see your Palme d'Or and raise you two Oscars; 1 + 2 :lol:
Short film award isn't on the same level as feature, but we could go on like this forever.

Seriously, what I've seen from Turkey, Iceland, Morocco, Belgium, Philippines, Slovakia, could be just a walk in the park for the likes of Macedonia or Slovenia, at least for the first two rounds. As much as it sounds unbelievable to you. B)

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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 1:33 am

But would Macedonia and Slovenia be able to oust big hitters? Ay, there's the rub.

Also, do I detect a small matter of Balkan pride in your steadfast belief in the above two countries? Perhaps not the best basis for making bombastic announcements of triumph...

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Post by HVM » February 2nd, 2017, 1:39 am

1. VIVIIVIII 7/10
2. Il posto 7/10

I was about to give an edge to Il posto but then I realized it was no Il grido...
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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 1:45 am

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! What a douche move, HVM!

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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 2nd, 2017, 1:45 am

monty on Feb 1 2017, 06:33:58 PM wrote:But would Macedonia and Slovenia be able to oust big hitters? Ay, there's the rub.

Also, do I detect a small matter of Balkan pride in your steadfast belief in the above two countries? Perhaps not the best basis for making bombastic announcements of triumph...
We saw that at least one good film is enough to oust a big-hitter. Whoever saw Ples v dežju knows that's possible.

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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 1:49 am

Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 06:45:52 PM wrote:
monty on Feb 1 2017, 06:33:58 PM wrote:But would Macedonia and Slovenia be able to oust big hitters? Ay, there's the rub.

Also, do I detect a small matter of Balkan pride in your steadfast belief in the above two countries? Perhaps not the best basis for making bombastic announcements of triumph...
We saw that at least one good film is enough to oust a big-hitter. Whoever saw Ples v dežju knows that's possible.
Well, I saw that one and I wasn't too impressed by it. What was it up against btw?

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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 1:52 am

Also, what films do you have in mind for Macedonia? Perhaps something like "Turkish Sultan Mehmed V Reshad Visiting Salonica"? Any good sex comedies maybe?
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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 2nd, 2017, 1:57 am

monty on Feb 1 2017, 06:52:27 PM wrote:Also, what films do you have in mind for Macedonia? Perhaps something like "Turkish Sultan Mehmed V Reshad Visiting Salonica"?
Kolnati sme, Irina is my favorite. You not being impressed by Ples v dežju is just you, and the fact it made DtC just proves my point. You can go and watch your terrible Spanish-speaking films instead.

And if I say I can bust the competition with Serbia, would you still be sarcastic like in the case of above two countries? B)

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monty on Feb 1 2017, 06:45:46 PM wrote:Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! What a douche move, HVM!
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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 2:05 am

You may well say you can bust the competition with Serbia. Actually doing it is quite another thing, mind you. I don't want to rain on your parade but repeating Egypt's success with Serbia or Macedonia will never happen. For that you better start looking for a Spanish speaking country instead. :lol:
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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 2nd, 2017, 2:12 am

monty on Feb 1 2017, 07:05:17 PM wrote:You may well say you can bust the competition with Serbia. Actually doing it is quite another thing, mind you. I don't want to rain on your parade but repeating Egypt's success with Serbia or Macedonia will never happen. For that you better start looking for a Spanish speaking country instead. :lol:
Which sounds absurd because other than Spain, no other Spanish-speaking country has made any significant success in our two cups, while both Serbia and Croatia had breakthroughs with not-even-their-best films. :lol:

Yeah, maybe Chile, but why it wasn't chosen again?
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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 2:19 am

I blame Chile not being chosen again on your unwillingness to head into the unknown, Mario. I very well couldn't manage it twice in a row, now could I?
And like I said, Serbia, Macedonia and Croatia will never be another Egypt. I dare you to prove me wrong.

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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 2:24 am

The trouble with Balkan films as summarized by a respected Balkan film critic:
I suppose people who are not from the Balkans might not get most of it... but if you're local you'll surely love it

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Post by Mario Gaborović » February 2nd, 2017, 2:25 am

monty on Feb 1 2017, 07:19:22 PM wrote:I blame Chile not being chosen again on your unwillingness to head into the unknown, Mario. I very well couldn't manage it twice in a row, now could I?
And like I said, Serbia, Macedonia and Croatia will never be another Egypt. I dare you to prove me wrong.
I'm not saying about other two, but Serbia is going to be with ease. I'll just remind you how valued Hungary and Czech Rep. are; having the largest city of former country contributed to higher percentage of films being produced than population's. The Serbs were 20% of the 22 million country but the film production was 40%, so let's say that's equal to film production of a 9-10 million country. And since we're not talking about Phillipines or Nigeria, but Eastern Bloc (which normally performs well in such competition), then you can imagine what do I have in my pocket you're not aware of. :whistling: Adding the fact I've learned the forum's taste moreover...
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Post by jvv » February 2nd, 2017, 2:29 am

Mario Gaborović on Feb 1 2017, 05:56:01 PM wrote:Yes and I want to advocate more new countries in the next WC such as Peru, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Uruguay...
Maybe we could do a shorter, alternative world cup this year with only countries that haven't been selected before.

Say 16 countries and straight into 1 on 1 elimination matches.

We could do a full world cup again next year then.

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Post by monty » February 2nd, 2017, 2:30 am

What is it that you have in your pocket, Mario? A Serbian Film, maybe?

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