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World Cup, Season 2, Match QF-A: Japan vs Egypt

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World Cup, Season 2, Match QF-A: Japan vs Egypt

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Post by monty » December 10th, 2016, 12:35 am

Mario Gaborović on Dec 9 2016, 05:18:24 PM wrote:
monty on Dec 9 2016, 05:00:10 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Dec 9 2016, 04:57:55 PM wrote:Yes you are right. The last time it was second in the group, so it's even better: 4-1.
Egypt's been lucky as it's competition hasn't been the strongest. Hence, its weak to average films are good enough to secure its progress. (The Kazakhstan match is a perfect example of this.) Anyhow, Egypt would have been blown out of the water by any regular Japanese pick.
Then you should manage Japan yourself the next time; Will you?
I'm sure there are plenty of people here who'd love to be the Japan manager. We'll see. I wouldn't mind getting another small country to the QFs, like I did Chile.

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Post by Armoreska » December 10th, 2016, 1:26 am

Mario Gaborović on Dec 9 2016, 04:43:02 PM wrote:
Armoreska on Dec 9 2016, 09:55:51 AM wrote:Just another losing country that manages a lot of votes in a row
What do you mean by that? Why is Egypt 'losing country'? It has 4-2 record in our two cups so far. :huh:
Japan will make a comeback until the deadline and snatch the final hour victory when MJF votes
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Post by brokenface » December 10th, 2016, 2:48 pm

1. The Postman
2. Fish Story

Wasn't wild on Postman, but it was okay in a neo-realisty-melodrama kinda way. Fish Story wasn't really my thing.

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Post by zhangalan » December 10th, 2016, 5:06 pm

It'd be a miracle if Egypt enters quarter final.
A huge success even when compared with Chile from last season.
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Post by Armoreska » December 10th, 2016, 5:43 pm

zhangalan on Dec 10 2016, 10:06:27 AM wrote:It'd be a miracle if Egypt enters quarter final.
A huge success even when compared with Chile from last season.
these are QF. next is SF
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Post by monty » December 10th, 2016, 6:35 pm

Armoreska on Dec 10 2016, 10:43:23 AM wrote:
zhangalan on Dec 10 2016, 10:06:27 AM wrote:It'd be a miracle if Egypt enters quarter final.
A huge success even when compared with Chile from last season.
these are QF. next is SF
Egypt beating Japan and Russia + getting to the semis = a miracle indeed

Then again, if mjf had picked more traditionally, Egypt never would have stood a chance.)

(Also, I still can't get my head around how it managed to beat Russia - I'll chalk that one down to the wayward taste of this forum)
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Post by Mario Gaborović » December 10th, 2016, 7:33 pm

monty on Dec 10 2016, 11:35:17 AM wrote:I'll chalk that one down to the wayward taste of this forum
... not suited to sex comedies, right? :rolleyes:

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Post by monty » December 10th, 2016, 8:14 pm

Mario Gaborović on Dec 10 2016, 12:33:43 PM wrote:
monty on Dec 10 2016, 11:35:17 AM wrote:I'll chalk that one down to the wayward taste of this forum
... not suited to sex comedies, right? :rolleyes:
I'm sure mjf would've crushed Egypt if he'd chosen a fun packed sex romp.

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Post by Armoreska » December 10th, 2016, 11:12 pm

Fish stories 7/10
Boustaguy 6/10

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » December 11th, 2016, 12:55 am

monty on Dec 9 2016, 10:22:02 AM wrote:
joachimt on Dec 9 2016, 09:50:53 AM wrote:... but Fish Story just isn't a worthy contender.
I think mjf deserves praise for daring to think outside the box when he so easily could have coasted to victory by picking any of the countless Japanese masterpieces we all love. If Egypt wins it's not because that film is inherently great, rather it's down to its being "good enough".
I think he sure does. Even if I don't think it was the strongest choice.

1. Al-boustaguy (1968) 7.5 - It took a while for me to really get into this. Not that it was bad, it always was decent (about on par with Fish Story, which I watched first). But only after the two storylines came together did it really grab me. Especially when things go starting astray, the tragedy slowly builds.

2. Fisshu sutôrî (2009) 7.2 - I liked how something as big as the end-of-the-world was handled so small-scaled. Some parts were better than others. Unfortunate the longest part (or what seemed to be the longest part) about the punkband was my least favorite part of the movie.
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Post by zhangalan » December 11th, 2016, 6:30 am

1. Al-boustaguy
2. Fisshu sutôrî

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Post by joachimt » December 11th, 2016, 10:18 am

monty on Dec 10 2016, 11:35:17 AM wrote:Also, I still can't get my head around how it managed to beat Russia
I'm still surprised about that as well. Sudba cheloveka is a clear favorite to me, but Doa al karawan was just a mediocre melodrama.
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Post by joachimt » December 11th, 2016, 10:19 am

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Post by weirdboy » December 11th, 2016, 8:59 pm

1. Fish story
2. Al-boustaguy

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Post by tommy_leazaq » December 12th, 2016, 3:50 am

joachimt on Dec 11 2016, 03:18:43 AM wrote:
monty on Dec 10 2016, 11:35:17 AM wrote:Also, I still can't get my head around how it managed to beat Russia
I'm still surprised about that as well. Sudba cheloveka is a clear favorite to me, but Doa al karawan was just a mediocre melodrama.
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Post by Gershwin » December 12th, 2016, 12:20 pm

Colombia deserved to win that match. -_-
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Post by joachimt » December 12th, 2016, 2:42 pm

Gershwin on Dec 12 2016, 05:20:13 AM wrote:Colombia deserved to win that match. -_-
Well, at least the order in 500<400 is the same as the ranking in that group, so it appears we're both wrong:

#45 - Doa al karawan
#168 - Sudba cheloveka
#217 - La Vendedora de Rosas
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Post by jvv » December 12th, 2016, 6:32 pm

Fish story - Rather convoluted plot, but I liked the quirkiness.
Al-boustaguy - Too much over-the-top acting.

1. Fish story - 7/10
2. Al-boustaguy - 6/10

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Post by Gershwin » December 12th, 2016, 6:38 pm

joachimt on Dec 12 2016, 07:42:34 AM wrote:
Gershwin on Dec 12 2016, 05:20:13 AM wrote:Colombia deserved to win that match. -_-
Well, at least the order in 500<400 is the same as the ranking in that group, so it appears we're both wrong:

#45 - Doa al karawan
#168 - Sudba cheloveka
#217 - La Vendedora de Rosas
Did you also correct for the number of voters? ;)
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Post by klaus78 » December 12th, 2016, 9:31 pm

1. Fisshu sutôrî (Japan) 4.5/10
2. Al-boustaguy (Egypt) 4.5/10
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Post by joachimt » December 12th, 2016, 9:35 pm

So is this the part of the story where the Fish hits back?
Three votes in a row for Japan.

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Post by BijitaQ » December 12th, 2016, 9:36 pm

البووستاغي .1 [The Postman] (1968)
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Post by Armoreska » December 12th, 2016, 9:42 pm

Q, are you just a visitor?
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Post by BijitaQ » December 12th, 2016, 10:01 pm

A visitor? What do you mean by that?
Or do i need a certain amount of posts first to take part in these World Cups?

Or do you mean like the visitor in the movie? :D
If yes, then yes. I will change all your lives. :P
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Post by joachimt » December 12th, 2016, 10:02 pm

Armoreska on Dec 12 2016, 02:42:38 PM wrote:Q, are you just a visitor?
Or do you think it's a fake account? :lol:

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Post by joachimt » December 12th, 2016, 10:02 pm

BijitaQ on Dec 12 2016, 03:01:16 PM wrote:A visitor? What do you mean by that?
Or do i need a certain amount of posts first to take part in these World Cups?
Of course not. Everyone is welcome!
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Post by BijitaQ » December 12th, 2016, 10:09 pm

joachimt on Dec 12 2016, 03:02:22 PM wrote:Welcome, BijitaQ!! Thanks for participating. :thumbsup:
Thanks. I'm glad to have found you. I'm a big fan of movie lists and fell in love with this forum at first glance. :)
Especially the World Cup is a very nice idea.

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Post by joachimt » December 12th, 2016, 10:18 pm

BijitaQ on Dec 12 2016, 03:09:47 PM wrote:I'm a big fan of movie lists
Then you're absolutely in the right place. We never get enough of lists. :D
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Post by Nathan Treadway » December 14th, 2016, 2:47 am

The Postman
Fish Story

Although, to be honest, I wasn't really all too crazy about either.
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Post by metaller » December 14th, 2016, 4:22 pm

Not the best round in WC history. I tend to enjoy some Japanese weirdness and a good hero story so Fish Story had it easy with me. The heavy-handed melodrama of the Egyptian film is soemthing I don't tend to enjoy, so despite its social critique, my vote goes to Japan.

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Post by Armoreska » December 14th, 2016, 4:41 pm

BijitaQ on Dec 12 2016, 03:01:16 PM wrote:A visitor? What do you mean by that?
Or do i need a certain amount of posts first to take part in these World Cups?

Or do you mean like the visitor in the movie? :D
If yes, then yes. I will change all your lives. :P
It's in your name too. Bijita = visitor as pronounced by a japanese person
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Post by joachimt » December 14th, 2016, 5:52 pm

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » December 14th, 2016, 6:00 pm

Armoreska on Dec 14 2016, 09:41:40 AM wrote:
BijitaQ on Dec 12 2016, 03:01:16 PM wrote:A visitor? What do you mean by that?
Or do i need a certain amount of posts first to take part in these World Cups?

Or do you mean like the visitor in the movie? :D
If yes, then yes. I will change all your lives. :P
It's in your name too. Bijita = visitor as pronounced by a japanese person
That's what he meant by "like in the movie" his username is the title of a movie about a visitor who comes into a family's life and disrupts it.

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Post by BijitaQ » December 14th, 2016, 7:17 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Dec 14 2016, 11:00:56 AM wrote:That's what he meant by "like in the movie" his username is the title of a movie about a visitor who comes into a family's life and disrupts it.
Exactly. :)

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Post by tommy_leazaq » December 15th, 2016, 3:47 am

PeacefulAnarchy on Dec 14 2016, 11:00:56 AM wrote:That's what he meant by "like in the movie" his username is the title of a movie about a visitor who comes into a family's life and disrupts it.
Interesting plot. Something like Teorama?

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » December 15th, 2016, 3:50 am

tommy_leazaq on Dec 14 2016, 08:47:22 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Dec 14 2016, 11:00:56 AM wrote:That's what he meant by "like in the movie" his username is the title of a movie about a visitor who comes into a family's life and disrupts it.
Interesting plot. Something like Teorama?
Visitor Q is just a Chevy Chase film about family values. Only reason people like it is the extremely unfunny dark humour.
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Post by Angel Glez » December 15th, 2016, 11:17 am

1. The Postman
2. Fish Story

What Lonewolf said. First half of "Fish Story" is intriguing and funny, but the story about the band doesn't work as well as it should. On the contrary, the postman takes too long in opening the first letter to connect both storylines, then the film becomes stronger.
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Post by clemmetarey » December 15th, 2016, 3:01 pm

1. Fisshu sutôrî (2009) 7/10

2. Al-boustaguy (1968) 6/10

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Post by sortile9io » December 15th, 2016, 4:15 pm

1. Al-boustaguy — 6/10
2. Fisshu sutôrî — 5/10

I didn't care much for neither of them. Both start with very appealing premises though: the butterfly effect that gives significance to the actions of losing characters and the clash between the modernity brought by the postmaster and the backward mindset of the village. But after a while they drift away and end up focusing on an episode of a punk band that didn't interest me and a more or less conventional impossible love story.

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