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iCM Forum Film World Cup - Season 2 - Records and Statistics

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iCM Forum Film World Cup - Season 2 - Records and Statistics

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Post by Mario Gaborović » August 23rd, 2016, 4:12 pm

The tournament began on January 1st, 2016. This is how it works:
- We start with 48 films from 48 countries.
- The winning country from each match advances, and will be represented by a different film in the next round.
- There are 5 rounds. In round 1 there are 3 films per match (only 1 advances). In rounds 2-5 there is 2 films per match.

There are few restrictions:
- The film must have <1000 checks on iCM.
- The film must be no longer than 3 hours.
- You may only use 1 film per director throughout the entire tournament.

Complete line-up of films here:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+ ... /joachimt/

Voters are obliged to watch all three films from a specific group in order to vote by a ranking system (1-3). A country proceeds to the R2 if its film has positive head-to-head record against two other opponents, regardless if it’s not the best in average score (that said, countries with an asterisk have better 1 on 1 score against the opponents ranked behind them). The head-to-head records are as follows:

GROUP STAGE:
Group A: 1. India 52-24, 2. Venezuela 51-25, 3. Niger 11-65
Group B: 1. Spain 45-31, 2. Thailand 39-37, 3. Portugal 30-46
Group C: 1. Egypt 42-32, 2. Russia 37-37, 3. Colombia 32-42
Group D: 1. Croatia 47-35, 2. Australia 41-41, 3. Germany 35-47
Group E: 1. Sweden 53-31, 2. Canada 38-46, 3. Greece 35-49
Group F: 1. Poland 55-17, 2. Iceland 30-42, 3. Turkey 23-51
Group G: 1. Taiwan 43-25, 2. Denmark 37-31, 3. Mexico 22-46
Group H: 1. USA 44-22, 2. Syria 31-35, 3. Morocco 24-42
Group I: 1. Japan 52-16, 2. Ukraine 31-37, 3. Sri Lanka 19-49
Group J: 1. Italy 52-12, 2. South Korea 31-33, 3. Montenegro 13-51
Group K: 1. Hungary 50-18, 2. Netherlands 42-26, 3. Philippines 10-58
Group L: 1. Kazakhstan 38-20, 2. Slovakia 29-29, 3. Brazil 20-38
Group M: 1. Czech Republic 48-20, 2. Senegal 38-30, 3. Iran 16-52
Group N: 1. England 43-39, 2. Hong Kong 40-42, 3. Norway 40-42
Group O: 1. Cuba 47-23, 2. France 42-28, 3. Belgium 16-54
Group P: 1. Romania 47-23, 2. China 38-32, 3. Argentina 20-48

ROUND OF 16:
Czech Republic - Poland 25-14
Sweden - Taiwan 15-16
England - Spain 14-20
India - Italy 13-18
Romania - Hungary 15-17
Cuba - USA 8-25
Croatia - Japan 12-18
Egypt - Kazakhstan 21-12

QUARTERFINALS:
Japan - Egypt 13-19
Czech Republic - USA 15-23
Hungary - Italy 9-21
Spain - Taiwan 19-13

SEMIFINALS:
Egypt - Italy 4-29
Spain - USA 14-20

THIRD PLACE MATCH:
Egypt - Spain 5-19

FINAL:
Italy - USA 25-18

Final Standings:
01. ImageItaly 6-0 144-56
02. ImageUSA 5-1 130-84
03. ImageSpain 5-1 117-83
04. ImageEgypt 4-2 91-105
05. ImageJapan 3-1 83-47
06. ImageCzech Republic 3-1 88-57
07. ImageHungary 3-1 76-54
08. ImageTaiwan 3-1 72-59
09. ImagePoland 2-1 69-42
10. ImageRomania 2-1 62-40
11. ImageIndia 2-1 65-42
12. ImageSweden 2-1 68-47
13. ImageKazakhstan 2-1 50-41
14. ImageCuba 2-1 55-48
15. ImageCroatia 2-1 59-53
16. ImageEngland 2-1 57-59
17. ImageVenezuela 1-1 51-25
18. ImageNetherlands 1-1 42-26
19. ImageFrance 1-1 42-28
20. ImageSenegal 1-1 38-30
21. ImageDenmark 1-1 37-31
22. ImageChina 1-1 38-32
23. ImageThailand 1-1 39-37
24. ImageAustralia 1-1 41-41
25. ImageRussia 1-1 37-37
26. ImageSlovakia 1-1 29-29
27. ImageHong Kong 1-1 40-42
28. ImageNorway 0-2 40-42
29. ImageSouth Korea 1-1 31-33
30. ImageSyria 1-1 31-35
31. ImageUkraine 1-1 31-37
32. ImageCanada 1-1 38-46
33. ImageColombia 0-2 32-42
34. ImageGermany 0-2 35-47
35. ImageGreece 0-2 35-49
36. ImageIceland 1-1 30-42
37. ImagePortugal 0-2 30-46
38. ImageBrazil 0-2 20-38
39. ImageMorocco 0-2 24-42
40. ImageMexico 0-2 22-46
41. ImageTurkey 0-2 23-51
42. ImageArgentina 0-2 20-48
43. ImageSri Lanka 0-2 19-49
44. ImageIran 0-2 16-52
45. ImageBelgium 0-2 16-54
46. ImageMontenegro 0-2 13-51
47. ImagePhilippines 0-2 10-58
48. ImageNiger 0-2 11-65
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Post by Mario Gaborović » August 23rd, 2016, 4:12 pm

- The match most voters took part in (43) was the final. The least voters (29) took part in Group L. In total, 64 members of the forum submitted at least one vote.

Newly set records:

- Cabascabo (NIG) is film with the worst performance with the vote ratio of 11/65 (0.169). It also holds the worst performance against another film in terms of vote margin, and that's 4-34 (-30) versus Araya (VEN). In addition to this, Araya received most consecutive votes against another film (17) in the said match.

- For the first time, African side advanced to the semifinals, and that was done by Egypt. The only continent without having a country that advanced through the second round is Oceania.

- The oldest ever film: Herr Arnes pengar (SWE) from 1919, as well as the newest ever: Umimachi Diary (JPN) from 2015.

- Året gjennom Børfjord (NOR) is film of the shortest duration that participated (11'57'').

- Decade performance overview (wins vs losses between films from different decades):
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1910s 0-1
1920s 1-1
1930s 2-2
1940s 1-1
1950s 14-3
1960s 11-12
1970s 7-9
1980s 3-5
1990s 6-9
2000s 6-6
2010s 6-8
- All the members who have taken part in voting (64):
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Angel Glez (32)
Armoreska (32)
beavis (32)
Carmel98 (32)
clemmetarey (32)
Cocoa (32)
HVM (32)
joachimt (32)
jvv (32)
klaus78 (32)
Lonewolf2003 (32)
Mario Gaborović (32)
metaller (32)
mjf314 (32)
Smoover (32)
sortile9io (32)
tommy_leazaq (32)
weirdboy (32)
zhangalan (32)
brokenface (31)
toro913 (31)
zuma (31)
Ettinauer226XL (30)
monty (30)
Lilarcor (29)
Mochard (29)
Fergenaprido (27)
Gershwin (26)
PeacefulAnarchy (26)
tarr (22)
mightysparks (15)
sacmersault (15)
kingink (14)
bjornam (13)
RBG (13)
blocho (10)
cayado-coro (10)
Melvelet (9)
perceval (9)
treadwaynathan (9)
BijitaQ (8)
Daviddoes (7)
connordenney (5)
funkybusiness (5)
lillyjabry (5)
allisoncm (4)
frbrown (4)
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3rd (3)
sebby (2)
wasabi (2)
Carmel1379 (1)
Cynical Cinephile (1)
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FazilFaleel (1)
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insomnius (1)
jdidaco (1)
jonas2k (1)
Nathan_Treadway (1)
pitn (1)
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (1)
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Post by sortile9io » August 23rd, 2016, 5:18 pm

Mario Gaborović on Aug 23 2016, 10:12:22 AM wrote:- Decade performance overview (wins vs losses between films from different decades)

1930s 2-2
1940s -
1950s 13-3
1960s 6-12
1970s 6-6
1980s 2-4
1990s 5-7
2000s 5-3
2010s 4-6
Fifties are more fashionable this year. I think last year it was the sixties that were the most succesful, weren't they?

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Post by Mario Gaborović » August 23rd, 2016, 6:10 pm

sortile9io on Aug 23 2016, 11:18:51 AM wrote:Fifties are more fashionable this year. I think last year it was the sixties that were the most succesful, weren't they?
Yeah this year 60's films are lousier it seems.

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Post by sortile9io » August 26th, 2016, 5:01 pm

I don't know it this has been mentioned before, I'm a bit surprised that only five countries repeat as second round participants: Japan, Hungary, Poland, Spain and Sweden. Same for managers, only five: Carmel98, funkybusiness, mjf314, monty and sortile9io.

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Post by Mario Gaborović » August 27th, 2016, 7:31 am

sortile9io on Aug 26 2016, 11:01:22 AM wrote:I don't know it this has been mentioned before, I'm a bit surprised that only five countries repeat as second round participants: Japan, Hungary, Poland, Spain and Sweden. Same for managers, only five: Carmel98, funkybusiness, mjf314, monty and sortile9io.
I think that's not a small number at all. Remember nobody chose Chile, Serbia and Austria, that's already three possibilities less.

I also think the next season whoever choses Chile should be granted Pot 1 position, deserved on previous success. Regardless of the fact that Chile was skipped meanwhile.

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Post by sortile9io » August 27th, 2016, 7:39 pm

Mario Gaborović on Aug 27 2016, 01:31:51 AM wrote:
sortile9io on Aug 26 2016, 11:01:22 AM wrote:I don't know it this has been mentioned before, I'm a bit surprised that only five countries repeat as second round participants: Japan, Hungary, Poland, Spain and Sweden. Same for managers, only five: Carmel98, funkybusiness, mjf314, monty and sortile9io.
I think that's not a small number at all. Remember nobody chose Chile, Serbia and Austria, that's already three possibilities less.
And, by the way, four of those repeating five countries were last season's semifinalists. Sheer chance?
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Post by sortile9io » March 20th, 2017, 4:51 pm

Time for a medal table:

GoldSilverBronzeTotal
Italy1001
Poland1001
Spain0112
USA0101
Japan0011
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Post by monty » March 20th, 2017, 6:25 pm

So Spain is the only country with two medals; time for the gold next time then.

Anyhow, what's the country with the most consecutive votes this Cup? What's the most disliked film overall? Which match had the biggest vote difference? We need more stats!
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Post by joachimt » March 20th, 2017, 7:24 pm

Here's my full spreadsheet, if anyone is interested.

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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 20th, 2017, 10:33 pm

I'm more interested in All Time Tables, but it's tasteless to make one after just two cups. Spain would be the most successful country there.
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Post by Armoreska » November 5th, 2017, 7:22 pm

All-time win-loss table by manager could be interesting
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Post by Mario Gaborović » November 5th, 2017, 7:25 pm

Armoreska on Nov 5 2017, 12:22:50 PM wrote:All-time win-loss table by manager could be interesting
No that would be dumb, but the country + director w/l would be excellent!

However I'll wait until the third season ends, it's too early now.

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Post by Armoreska » November 5th, 2017, 7:48 pm

Mario Gaborović on Nov 5 2017, 12:25:22 PM wrote:
Armoreska on Nov 5 2017, 12:22:50 PM wrote:All-time win-loss table by manager could be interesting
No that would be dumb
I think I know now who would be bottom of that list :D
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Post by Mario Gaborović » November 5th, 2017, 7:58 pm

Armoreska on Nov 5 2017, 12:48:29 PM wrote:
Mario Gaborović on Nov 5 2017, 12:25:22 PM wrote:
Armoreska on Nov 5 2017, 12:22:50 PM wrote:All-time win-loss table by manager could be interesting
No that would be dumb
I think I know now who would be bottom of that list :D
Not me, I have 3 wins on my account. ^_^ (zero this season, though)
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