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Post by sebby » August 12th, 2015, 11:05 pm

There was a bug at the time (don't know if it's still an issue) that made it impossible to change back from reference view to the default layout. It annoyed me enough after a week or so that I just said fuck it and made a new account.

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Post by themagician » August 21st, 2015, 6:34 pm

It would be sooooo awesome if we could reach 100 lists. Only 10 to go! Just PM me a link to your IMDb ratings (if you don't want others to see your ratings, just make sure it's public!) or post in this thread.

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Post by maksler » October 9th, 2015, 2:52 pm

Not sure if I already replied, but here are my ratings: http://www.imdb.com/user/ur27011656/ratings

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#605

Post by themagician » October 25th, 2015, 3:08 pm

What do you think? New layout for screenshots and some new lists!

The layout: I can display any information available on IMDb. Currently it's just whatever's exported in CSV files and country + plot. If you have any suggestions let me know. You can see the rating by hovering over the number of voters.

The new lists: If you have any suggestions for new lists let me know. I can filter by country + language or any information available on IMDb. The new lists have 5 votes minimum but I can do with fewer votes if you want. With 5 votes minimum only France and Japan have enough votes to make a top 250 list so you need to combine countries to get enough entries. There may be some 'wrong' films on the lists because I'm currently only filtering by first listed country. I can currently filter by any country/first listed country and/or any language/first listed language. But I could filter by any information available on IMDb.

edit: Oh and yes I did steal the layout from TSZDT...
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Post by mightysparks » October 25th, 2015, 3:28 pm

themagician on Oct 25 2015, 09:08:49 AM wrote:edit: Oh and yes I did steal the layout from TSZDT...
Well it is a pretty layout :P

My internet is pretty slow, so it takes a bit of time for it to load for me, but otherwise looks good. The new lists are cool, yay lists I love lists. Some genre lists might be interesting.
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Post by toro913 » October 25th, 2015, 8:06 pm

Looks wonderful.

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Post by themagician » October 26th, 2015, 12:22 am

I'd like to add AKA titles but it's problematic. I can't export CSV lists with English titles because IMDb is broken and will use Finnish titles for some films (since that's my location). Now I have the IMDb database on my HDD and it has all the AKA titles. In the database each AKA title has a note. The problem is there's 1205 unique notes with the words USA, UK, and English. They look like this:
(International: English title) (informal English title)
(International: English title) (informal English alternative title)
(USA) (alternative title)
(USA) (uncensored intended title)
(USA) (alternative spelling)
(UK) (new title)
(Canada: English title) (imdb display title)
(International: English title) (imdb display title)
(USA)
(International: English title) (alternative title)
(International: English title)
(UK) (promotional title)
(UK) (long title)
(USA) (second season title)
(USA) (short title)
(USA) (working title)
(International: English title) (literal English title)
(International: English title) (long title)
(USA) (imdb display title)
(International: English title) (alternative spelling)
(USA) (complete title)
(UK: English title) (alternative spelling)
(International: English title) (literal title)
(UK) (alternative spelling)
(UK) (literal English title)
(USA) (third season title)
...
Now can anyone come up with some logic that will select the correct AKA title based on the notes? If a film has an AKA title with a note that says "imdb display title" that's obviously the correct one but many films don't have this so any ideas?

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Post by bobbybrown » October 26th, 2015, 2:43 am

themagician on Oct 25 2015, 06:22:30 PM wrote:I'd like to add AKA titles but it's problematic. I can't export CSV lists with English titles because IMDb is broken and will use Finnish titles for some films (since that's my location).
Do you mean with USA/English as title display country/language? I have that issue too (but usually I use "Original" as country, at least that works fine), and would also like to see their algorhythm for picking AKAs from this mess explained.

They seem to make their guess about in which language to show titles based on user's IP, so if you use a US proxy most of the foreign titles are showing up with a sensible English title. Maybe try that?
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Logged in, USA-English in settings / Logged out, Russian IP, en-us locale

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Logged out, German proxy / Logged out, US proxy:

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Post by xianjiro » October 26th, 2015, 7:25 am

If you're still looking for our ratings, here's my link: http://www.imdb.com/user/ur1125225/ratings

I've only read the first and last pages of this topic, but it seems there is some curiosity about TV series and episodes. I only rate a series once I've seen all episodes of that series. I do rate *some* episodes - not for shows that I'm actively watching the series, only for single episodes when I'm *unlikely* to watch the entire series and this usually only for news or nonfiction series. Can explain my logic if anyone cares, but suffice it to say, I'm pretty aggressive at keeping my IMDb, iCM, and Excel spreadsheet in agreement - as of right now, all three show 9146 ratings or checks.

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Post by Angel Glez » October 28th, 2015, 10:12 am

Condenados a vivir is an unexpected, to say the least, top rated Spanish film. :blink:

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Post by Lakigigar » November 1st, 2015, 7:11 pm

Here are my ratings

my ratingshttp://www.imdb.com/user/ur56613094/ratings

do i need this to post several times? (for updating?)
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Post by joachimt » November 2nd, 2015, 12:14 am

Lakigigar on Nov 1 2015, 12:11:17 PM wrote:Here are my ratings

my ratingshttp://www.imdb.com/user/ur56613094/ratings

do i need this to post several times? (for updating?)
No, as long as your ratings are listed in the OP, they will be counted. Now and then themagician downloads all ratings again, so all your new ratings will be calculated then.
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Post by themagician » November 2nd, 2015, 1:36 am

Updated lists. Added top 250 TV series (includes TV series + mini series).

Added xianjiro's and Lakigigar's ratings. Removed sandrikoti since his list's been private for a couple weeks now.

EDIT: You can now also see what you've rated/not rated on IMDb by going to a screenshot page and clicking the button above the list title.
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Post by mjf314 » November 2nd, 2015, 4:46 am

I guess most of the good anime series haven't been watched by 5 people. It's sad to see series like Mushishi, Kino's Journey, The Tatami Galaxy, and Monster missing from the list.

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Post by Lakigigar » November 2nd, 2015, 5:51 am

Wow nice list, and i like the upward movements of some movies like bin-jip :wub:

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Post by mjf314 » November 2nd, 2015, 7:19 am

Would it be possible to add another column to the TV list to show the number of episodes for each series?

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Post by Lakigigar » November 2nd, 2015, 7:45 am

and is it possible to exclude french movies from the european top 250 because there is a separate list. Just like they did with Japan


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Post by Rad82 » November 2nd, 2015, 10:58 am

mjf314 on Nov 1 2015, 09:46:48 PM wrote:I guess most of the good anime series haven't been watched by 5 people. It's sad to see series like Mushishi, Kino's Journey, The Tatami Galaxy, and Monster missing from the list.
As usual. :P Let's accept it, imdb will never be a good enough consensus for animation ratings (especially for anime). ICM is no exception to this of course. No wonder that all anime fans never use them and prefer other sites.
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Post by Torgo » November 2nd, 2015, 2:37 pm

Rad82 on Nov 2 2015, 03:58:26 AM wrote:
mjf314 on Nov 1 2015, 09:46:48 PM wrote:I guess most of the good anime series haven't been watched by 5 people. It's sad to see series like Mushishi, Kino's Journey, The Tatami Galaxy, and Monster missing from the list.
As usual. :P Let's accept it, imdb will never be a good enough consensus for animation ratings (especially for anime). ICM is no exception to this of course. No wonder that all anime fans never use them and prefer other sites.
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Post by Lakigigar » November 2nd, 2015, 8:12 pm

i voted a 9 for avatar, and avatar is new on the list.

Soooo... :)

(avatar the animé serie, not the james cameron movie
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Post by Kasparius » November 2nd, 2015, 8:13 pm

Lakigigar on Nov 2 2015, 01:12:43 PM wrote:i voted a 9 for avatar, and avatar is new on the list.

Soooo... :)
I voted a nein for avatar.


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Post by joachimt » November 5th, 2015, 9:21 pm

porzano on Nov 5 2015, 02:08:19 PM wrote:My ratings: http://www.imdb.com/user/ur59091388/ratings
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Post by themagician » November 9th, 2015, 1:13 am

Added porzano's and monclivie's ratings. Removed France from European list.

If anyone wants to find screenshots here's the IMDb URLs for missing screenshots: http://themagician.host56.com/missing_images.html. It has all lists three times; first is the current list, then new entries, then dropped entries.

EDIT: The screenshots must have the IMDb ID as the filename (!).
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Post by funkybusiness » November 9th, 2015, 1:53 am

themagician on Nov 8 2015, 06:13:02 PM wrote:Added porzano's and monclivie's ratings. Removed France from European list.

If anyone wants to find screenshots here's the IMDb URLs for missing screenshots: http://themagician.host56.com/missing_images.html. It has all lists three times; first is the current list, then new entries, then dropped entries.

EDIT: The screenshots must have the IMDb ID as the filename (!).
here's some screens: edit whoops. just saw your edit.
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Post by funkybusiness » November 9th, 2015, 2:16 am

alright. here they are. some films have multiple screenshots for you to pick from with a -x added to the end of the filename.

http://we.tl/zXGcxhaylh

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Post by mightysparks » November 13th, 2015, 2:23 pm

Are there updated lists for
Documentary
TV Series
Obscure
Top 250 Asia
Top 250 Europe
Top 250 Japan
Top 250 France
?

I know there was a doc and obscure list but the links are no longer working and I'm not sure if they were updating them. If no-one else has made those lists, I'll make a new iCM list for them.
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Post by themagician » November 13th, 2015, 2:58 pm

mightysparks on Nov 13 2015, 07:23:23 AM wrote:Are there updated lists for
Documentary
TV Series
Obscure
Top 250 Asia
Top 250 Europe
Top 250 Japan
Top 250 France
?

I know there was a doc and obscure list but the links are no longer working and I'm not sure if they were updating them. If no-one else has made those lists, I'll make a new iCM list for them.
There's no iCM lists for those. The docu + obscure lists have been removed.

I wish there was an easier way to update lists. The Guy could add an option to add a URL to a source list with IMDb URLs and automatically check for updates e.g. weekly. When it checks for updates it would download the source file, go through it line-by-line checking if there's an IMDb URL there, extract all the IMDb IDs from them and update the list.

For the France/Japan lists should I also filter by language? The French list especially has some non-French films on it.

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Post by mightysparks » November 13th, 2015, 3:44 pm

Ok, I went and made them all. I also updated the descriptions and put a source url to the list on the site for all of them too.

Top 1000
Top 1001-2000
Top 250 Documentaries
Top 250 Shorts
Bottom 100
iCM Forum's Top 250 Highest Rated TV Series
Top 250 Obscure Feature Films
Top 250 Europe (Excluding France)
Top 250 Asia (Excluding Japan)
Top 250 France
Top 250 Japan

I'm terrible at remembering to update them, but I'll try to do it when I can.
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Post by Fergenaprido » November 13th, 2015, 6:08 pm

mightysparks on Nov 13 2015, 08:44:04 AM wrote:Ok, I went and made them all. I also updated the descriptions and put a source url to the list on the site for all of them too.

Top 1000
Top 1001-2000
Top 250 Documentaries
Top 250 Shorts
Bottom 100
iCM Forum's Top 250 Highest Rated TV Series
Top 250 Obscure Feature Films
Top 250 Europe (Excluding France)
Top 250 Asia (Excluding Japan)
Top 250 France
Top 250 Japan

I'm terrible at remembering to update them, but I'll try to do it when I can.
Thanks mighty, I appreciate having these as icm lists as well. Unless we can find a way for the lists to automatically update, I think it's fine if the icm lists are updated only once every three or six months... too much manual work otherwise.

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Post by xianjiro » November 14th, 2015, 2:32 am

:thumbsup: Thanks might!

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Post by mjf314 » November 14th, 2015, 2:37 am

themagician on Nov 13 2015, 07:58:27 AM wrote:For the France/Japan lists should I also filter by language? The French list especially has some non-French films on it.
Napoleon isn't listed as French-language on IMDb (and possibly other silent films, but I didn't check all of them).


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Post by Rad82 » November 24th, 2015, 3:58 pm

So, let me get this straight, these results are an "average" of all the 90-100 users who have posted lists here? And only imdb ratings are accepted and our imdb profile/ratings must be public for this to work?

Is it ok if I make imdb ratings public just for once, for the next calculation and then again change it to private? You can keep using that list forever till I update it enough. (once a year or so)

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Post by themagician » November 24th, 2015, 4:04 pm

Rad82 on Nov 24 2015, 08:58:14 AM wrote:So, let me get this straight, these results are an "average" of all the 90-100 users who have posted lists here? And only imdb ratings are accepted and our imdb profile/ratings must be public for this to work?
Yes, yes, and yes.
Rad82 on Nov 24 2015, 08:58:14 AM wrote:Is it ok if I make imdb ratings public just for once, for the next calculation and then again change it to private? You can keep using that list forever till I update it enough. (once a year or so)
You can make your ratings public and PM me the link. I don't share the IMDb URLs with anyone. But I guess if you PM me the ratings CSV file I can use that but I might not remember to copy it each time since the ratings downloading is automated.

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Post by greenhorg » December 2nd, 2015, 2:59 am

This is great, I'd also like to privately send you my IMDb ratings. (I don't want my ratings to be entirely public. ... someone might see my Godfather rating and stuff a horse head in my sheets.)

http://themagician.host56.com/highestra ... tures.html

Two problems. All those five vote movies (#6 The World in His Arms!) really seem like statistical noise. I think a higher cut-off like 20-30 would make the list more accurate.

Second I'm skeptical of the typical method of averaging together disparate people's 1-10 ratings, because people don't rate movies in the same way. Some people give 35% of their movies 8+ ratings while other people give 5% of their movies 8+ ratings. IMDb ratings are higher than forum ratings and mine are lower still.

Would it be possible to adjust each person's movie ratings around their own distribution of scores by e.g. using the standard deviation of their 1-10 ratings?

(I apologize if these are bad suggestions, I am not a stat wizard; these are intuitions.)
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Post by themagician » December 2nd, 2015, 3:23 am

greenhorg on Dec 1 2015, 07:59:28 PM wrote:http://themagician.host56.com/highestra ... tures.html

Two problems. All those five vote movies (#6 The World in His Arms!) really seem like statistical noise. I think a higher cut-off like 20-30 would make the list more accurate.
Minimum votes is 5 because people want 5 votes minimum. Some want even lower...
greenhorg on Dec 1 2015, 07:59:28 PM wrote:Second I'm skeptical of the typical method of averaging together disparate people's 1-10 ratings, because people don't rate movies in the same way. Some people give 35% of their movies 8+ ratings while other people give 5% of their movies 8+ ratings. IMDb ratings are higher than forum ratings and mine are lower still.

Would it be possible to adjust each person's movie ratings around their own distribution of scores by e.g. using the standard deviation of their 1-10 ratings?

(I apologize if these are bad suggestions, I am not a stat wizard; these are intuitions.)
I don't want to mess with people's ratings. An 8 is an 8 is an 8. Who am I to decide their rating shouldn't count as 8...

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Post by mjf314 » December 2nd, 2015, 3:31 am

themagician on Dec 1 2015, 08:23:05 PM wrote:I don't want to mess with people's ratings. An 8 is an 8 is an 8. Who am I to decide their rating shouldn't count as 8...
You can do what Criticker does (convert ratings into tiers), although Criticker's method also has problems, so it's probably better to leave it the way it is.

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