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Post by themagician » March 10th, 2012, 7:39 pm

Submit your IMDb rating list to participate!

You can find the IMDb rating list URL at http://www.imdb.com/list/ratings. When you open it, it redirects you to a new page, make sure the list is public, and copy paste the URL.

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Post by jvv » March 10th, 2012, 7:44 pm

I already posted in the other thread, but for easy access I'll post them here again :

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur15537330/ratings

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Post by mightysparks » March 10th, 2012, 7:45 pm

I think TV series, yes, TV eps no.

And I'll copy jvv and repost my link again for easy access: http://www.imdb.com/user/ur3954564/ratings
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Post by tommy_leazaq » March 10th, 2012, 7:54 pm

Personally I don't like TV Series / episodes to be included in a list exclusive for movies. But I'd go with whatever decision made by majority of our people.



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Post by serri » March 10th, 2012, 8:04 pm

I'm a bit inconsistent in how I rate movies I enjoyed ironically, but I don't think we're in any danger of me causing Bulworth to top the list or knocking Plan 9 out of contention, soooo...

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur6236262/ratings

Also, whenever I click other peoples ratings all I see are the films they've rated but with my own ratings. Is there something weird with my settings?

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Post by Pain » March 10th, 2012, 8:06 pm

Serriform on Mar 10 2012, 01:04:29 PM wrote:I'm a bit inconsistent in how I rate movies I enjoyed ironically, but I don't think we're in any danger of me causing Bulworth to top the list or knocking Plan 9 out of contention, soooo...

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur6236262/ratings

Also, whenever I click other peoples ratings all I see are the films they've rated but with my own ratings. Is there something weird with my settings?
This can be solved by clicking any of the boxes on the right, like genres, then unchecking it again. You will see their ratings then.

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Post by themagician » March 10th, 2012, 8:07 pm

tommy_leazaq on Mar 10 2012, 12:54:34 PM wrote:Personally I don't like TV Series / episodes to be included in a list exclusive for movies. But I'd go with whatever decision made by majority of our people.
I'm thinking maybe there could be an option on the results page where you could show/hide TV series...
Serriform on Mar 10 2012, 01:04:29 PM wrote:I'm a bit inconsistent in how I rate movies I enjoyed ironically, but I don't think we're in any danger of me causing Bulworth to top the list or knocking Plan 9 out of contention, soooo...

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur6236262/ratings

Also, whenever I click other peoples ratings all I see are the films they've rated but with my own ratings. Is there something weird with my settings?
That's normal. When you export the list there's a column with that user's ratings.

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Post by mightysparks » March 10th, 2012, 8:07 pm

Yeah, there's a problem with viewing other people's IMDb ratings at the moment. Doing anything in the filtering makes them show up again. Fecking IMDb :(
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Post by wuzzawuzz » March 10th, 2012, 8:24 pm

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur24056490/ratings

I don't rate TV shows or short films on IMDB

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Post by serri » March 10th, 2012, 8:33 pm

Thanks guys!

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Post by ormazd » March 10th, 2012, 8:48 pm

IMDB Ratings

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Post by allisoncm » March 11th, 2012, 1:54 am

1) As you can see, TV series/TV Episodes are currently included, yay or nay?
nay

2) Cut-off point for how many ratings an entry needs in order to be included in the results. This can be a number like 5 ratings or a percentage like 5% of voters.
I don't really understand this option? On the other movies list the minimum number of voters was four or five.

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Post by themagician » March 11th, 2012, 10:24 am

allisoncm on Mar 10 2012, 06:54:25 PM wrote:1) As you can see, TV series/TV Episodes are currently included, yay or nay?
nay

2) Cut-off point for how many ratings an entry needs in order to be included in the results. This can be a number like 5 ratings or a percentage like 5% of voters.
I don't really understand this option? On the other movies list the minimum number of voters was four or five.
If there's no cut-off point then the list is just going to be everyone's 10 star ratings, individual TV episodes, shorts, docus and other films only one person has rated and nobody wants to see a list like that so we need to settle on some number. In the screenshot only entries with 3 or more voters are shown so that the median and population standard deviation can be calculated, but 3 may be too low... I'll have to try different cut-offs and see what the results will look like. If the final list is dominated by entries with only 3 voters and very high ratings then it's too low, unless that's what you want to see.

By the way, and I didn't even think of this yesterday because I didn't think of this as an official thing, but do you want to see the list revealed like the Favorite Movies? The plan I had in mind was to just reveal the whole list at once, 10 hours from now, and perhaps keep updating it once a week, but if you want to see it revealed one by one then I'll reveal it one by one, but then I'll wait for more people to post their IMDb rating lists.

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Post by mightysparks » March 11th, 2012, 10:37 am

How many lists have you got so far?
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Post by themagician » March 11th, 2012, 10:48 am

mightysparks on Mar 11 2012, 04:37:05 AM wrote:How many lists have you got so far?
14 and I must say, with just minimum 3 votes required the results are very very exciting, certainly very different and less predictable than the favorite movies list, but there's way too many ties... Although that's because there's still too few lists so I'll probably wait for at least another week. If we don't get that many more lists then I'll just reveal the whole list at once.

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Post by Nuclearplanet » March 11th, 2012, 11:22 am

themagician on Mar 10 2012, 12:39:28 PM wrote:This was suggested by Crinderman in the iCM Board's Favorite Movies (2012 Edition) thread and it seemed like a fun idea so let's do this. I have an application that calculates the rating averages from IMDb rating lists, here's an example output with 3 lists that were submitted to that thread + my list:

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The STD column is population standard deviation.

The more lists we get the more interesting the results will be! You can just post a link to your public IMDb rating history page in this thread or you can PM me a link if you don't want everyone to see your ratings. I won't look at the ratings or share them with anyone, I'll just download the CSV file and let the program do its thing, but if you send a link via PM then let me know whether you want to have your name included in the list of people who rated each film and whether you want your rating displayed.

There's an export feature hidden under the File menu so that the results can be exported e.g. in HTML format and viewed in a browser, which means we could make this even like a weekly thing where the list is updated e.g. every Sunday.

A few things though:

1) As you can see, TV series/TV Episodes are currently included, yay or nay?
2) Cut-off point for how many ratings an entry needs in order to be included in the results. This can be a number like 5 ratings or a percentage like 5% of voters.
I've always wondered do you work for ICM???

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Post by TheMadcapLaughs » March 11th, 2012, 11:25 am

themagician on Mar 11 2012, 04:24:49 AM wrote:
allisoncm on Mar 10 2012, 06:54:25 PM wrote:1) As you can see, TV series/TV Episodes are currently included, yay or nay?
nay

2) Cut-off point for how many ratings an entry needs in order to be included in the results. This can be a number like 5 ratings or a percentage like 5% of voters.
I don't really understand this option? On the other movies list the minimum number of voters was four or five.
If there's no cut-off point then the list is just going to be everyone's 10 star ratings, individual TV episodes, shorts, docus and other films only one person has rated and nobody wants to see a list like that so we need to settle on some number. In the screenshot only entries with 3 or more voters are shown so that the median and population standard deviation can be calculated, but 3 may be too low... I'll have to try different cut-offs and see what the results will look like. If the final list is dominated by entries with only 3 voters and very high ratings then it's too low, unless that's what you want to see.

By the way, and I didn't even think of this yesterday because I didn't think of this as an official thing, but do you want to see the list revealed like the Favorite Movies? The plan I had in mind was to just reveal the whole list at once, 10 hours from now, and perhaps keep updating it once a week, but if you want to see it revealed one by one then I'll reveal it one by one, but then I'll wait for more people to post their IMDb rating lists.
Personally I think it would be cool to post two lists. One with a 3 vote minimum, but also one with no vote minimum. The former would be the more representative one, and the one we'd take quite a bit more seriously. The latter could cause other board members to go check out the films that only have one vote: who knows, they could well be great films that end up earning a place on the 3 vote minimum list once more people have seen them.


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Post by metaller » March 11th, 2012, 11:56 am

I love the idea.
TV shows/episodes: nay. (but if that will be more work fpr you then I don't mind either way).

But still, I somehow don't like making my vote history public, so I'll send you a PM :)
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Post by themagician » March 11th, 2012, 11:58 am

Nuclearplanet on Mar 11 2012, 05:22:37 AM wrote:I've always wondered do you work for ICM???
No O_o
TheMadcapLaughs on Mar 11 2012, 05:25:10 AM wrote:Personally I think it would be cool to post two lists. One with a 3 vote minimum, but also one with no vote minimum. The former would be the more representative one, and the one we'd take quite a bit more seriously. The latter could cause other board members to go check out the films that only have one vote: who knows, they could well be great films that end up earning a place on the 3 vote minimum list once more people have seen them.
Sounds like a good idea! I'll post it after the other one has been revealed.

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Post by themagician » March 11th, 2012, 4:25 pm

With 17 lists submitted, two things have become apparent:

1) Only fans of TV series rate them. Well it's obvious if you look at any TV series IMDb page, but they have to go as they dominate the top of the list making it very uninteresting. I can post a separate list with just TV series though!

2) Ties... So many ties... There's currently an 8-way tie in top 10! And that's nothing compared to what's below. So we need to come up with a weighting system that breaks the ties. I'm thinking the Population Standard Deviation could be useful here. As a reminder: Low PSD = not much variance in the ratings, e.g. if PSD = 0 then everyone rated it the same. High PSD = lots of variance, it may have been rated 1/10, 6/10, 10/10 and anything in between.

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Post by allisoncm » March 11th, 2012, 4:27 pm

Yeah I vote for not including TV Series. I do vote for some of them though. Variance is okay. I don't know how to come up with those calculations, but if they're used, that's cool.

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Post by mightysparks » March 11th, 2012, 4:32 pm

Yeah, I forgot about TV show mafia. A separate list would be interesting though (just to find new shows to check out etc).
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » March 11th, 2012, 4:34 pm

themagician on Mar 11 2012, 10:25:53 AM wrote:Any suggestions?
Use the imdb rating? Add imdb ratings as another user. This might be controversial but it would have minimal effect on films with a lot of votes and would also act as a natural balancer for films with too few votes. If this seems to wreak havoc with the list you could always give it a lesser weight, so imdb ratings count as half or a quarter vote.

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Post by TheMadcapLaughs » March 11th, 2012, 4:41 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Mar 11 2012, 10:34:54 AM wrote:
themagician on Mar 11 2012, 10:25:53 AM wrote:Any suggestions?
Use the imdb rating? Add imdb ratings as another user. This might be controversial but it would have minimal effect on films with a lot of votes and would also act as a natural balancer for films with too few votes. If this seems to wreak havoc with the list you could always give it a lesser weight, so imdb ratings count as half or a quarter vote.
A better way of having a similar effect could be to put in a single dummy 5/10 vote with every film? You would then get a balancing effect, but wouldn't have to use the IMDb values (this is iCM Board's highest rated movies after all, not IMDb's).

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » March 11th, 2012, 4:49 pm

TheMadcapLaughs on Mar 11 2012, 10:41:16 AM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Mar 11 2012, 10:34:54 AM wrote:
themagician on Mar 11 2012, 10:25:53 AM wrote:Any suggestions?
Use the imdb rating? Add imdb ratings as another user. This might be controversial but it would have minimal effect on films with a lot of votes and would also act as a natural balancer for films with too few votes. If this seems to wreak havoc with the list you could always give it a lesser weight, so imdb ratings count as half or a quarter vote.
A better way of having a similar effect could be to put in a single dummy 5/10 vote with every film? You would then get a balancing effect, but wouldn't have to use the IMDb values (this is iCM Board's highest rated movies after all, not IMDb's).
This would still give you ties for films with the same number of votes, but sure, that could work. Don't use 5, though, use the overall mean of all the votes. I think this solution is better when the dataset is big enough, but my earlier solution is probably more effective with the current small dataset. Not having the data in front of me I can't really tell what variation would be more appropriate.

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Post by St. Gloede » March 11th, 2012, 5:06 pm

allisoncm on Mar 10 2012, 06:54:25 PM wrote:1) As you can see, TV series/TV Episodes are currently included, yay or nay?
nay

2) Cut-off point for how many ratings an entry needs in order to be included in the results. This can be a number like 5 ratings or a percentage like 5% of voters.
I don't really understand this option? On the other movies list the minimum number of voters was four or five.
1. Nay, though we could do an individual TV series list I suppose

2. I'm fine with either of those option. 5 ratings sounds good.

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Post by TheMadcapLaughs » March 11th, 2012, 5:31 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Mar 11 2012, 10:49:48 AM wrote:
TheMadcapLaughs on Mar 11 2012, 10:41:16 AM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Mar 11 2012, 10:34:54 AM wrote:Use the imdb rating? Add imdb ratings as another user. This might be controversial but it would have minimal effect on films with a lot of votes and would also act as a natural balancer for films with too few votes. If this seems to wreak havoc with the list you could always give it a lesser weight, so imdb ratings count as half or a quarter vote.
A better way of having a similar effect could be to put in a single dummy 5/10 vote with every film? You would then get a balancing effect, but wouldn't have to use the IMDb values (this is iCM Board's highest rated movies after all, not IMDb's).
This would still give you ties for films with the same number of votes, but sure, that could work. Don't use 5, though, use the overall mean of all the votes. I think this solution is better when the dataset is big enough, but my earlier solution is probably more effective with the current small dataset. Not having the data in front of me I can't really tell what variation would be more appropriate.
Yeah, the average of the dataset would be better actually.

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Post by themagician » March 11th, 2012, 6:31 pm

PeacefulAnarchy on Mar 11 2012, 10:34:54 AM wrote:
themagician on Mar 11 2012, 10:25:53 AM wrote:Any suggestions?
Use the imdb rating? Add imdb ratings as another user. This might be controversial but it would have minimal effect on films with a lot of votes and would also act as a natural balancer for films with too few votes. If this seems to wreak havoc with the list you could always give it a lesser weight, so imdb ratings count as half or a quarter vote.
Adding the IMDb rating as another user didn't help much at all regarding ties, but it did have a huge effect on the list, so that alone isn't a good thing to do. I also tried upping the minimum vote requirement, but the ties remain all the same, and the list became way more mainstream, although it's still full of surprises, even the top 10.

Maybe sorting the ties by PSD would be a start so that lowest PSD would be on top and then if there's cases (and there are) where rating and PSD are the same, it could be sorted by number of voters, so that the highest number of votes are on top. I'll try implementing that and see what kind of difference it makes.


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Post by St. Gloede » March 11th, 2012, 6:44 pm

themagician on Mar 11 2012, 12:31:29 PM wrote:
PeacefulAnarchy on Mar 11 2012, 10:34:54 AM wrote:
themagician on Mar 11 2012, 10:25:53 AM wrote:Any suggestions?
Use the imdb rating? Add imdb ratings as another user. This might be controversial but it would have minimal effect on films with a lot of votes and would also act as a natural balancer for films with too few votes. If this seems to wreak havoc with the list you could always give it a lesser weight, so imdb ratings count as half or a quarter vote.
Adding the IMDb rating as another user didn't help much at all regarding ties, but it did have a huge effect on the list, so that alone isn't a good thing to do. I also tried upping the minimum vote requirement, but the ties remain all the same, and the list became way more mainstream, although it's still full of surprises, even the top 10.

Maybe sorting the ties by PSD would be a start so that lowest PSD would be on top and then if there's cases (and there are) where rating and PSD are the same, it could be sorted by number of voters, so that the highest number of votes are on top. I'll try implementing that and see what kind of difference it makes.
How about allowing ties, or just ranking them chronological/alphabetical?


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Post by NoodlesPupkin » March 11th, 2012, 6:47 pm

Here's mine: http://www.imdb.com/user/ur15410497/ratings

I have no TV episodes rated (only a couple of shows, and all episodes/seasons seen).

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » March 11th, 2012, 7:03 pm

Crinderman on Mar 11 2012, 12:44:32 PM wrote:How about allowing ties, or just ranking them chronological/alphabetical?
I think the real problem is we don't have enough lists. I agree there's no problem with a few two or three way ties but I'm guessing with only 15 lists there are some 10 or 20 way ties which is a little awkward

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Post by karmacarroll » March 11th, 2012, 7:05 pm

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur24755816/ratings :)

There's a few TV shows rated, but I did them when I was quite young, and haven't been bothered to change them since.
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