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Country Poll: Canada [Deadline: November 30, 2022]

500<400, Favourite 1001 movies, Doubling the Canon, Film World Cup and many other votes
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Country Poll: Canada [Deadline: November 30, 2022]

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Overview of the Project
Schedule


November 2022: Canada


Rules
* You may vote for a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 20 titles.
* Feature films, documentaries, shorts, made-for-tv movies, direct-to-video movies, TV mini-series, and TV episodes from anthology series are all eligible.
* One country per film - IMDB is used as a guideline, but Fergenaprido will be the final arbiter for uncertain cases.
* All ballots are considered ranked unless otherwise stated.
* You must include a list of bare imdb URLs along with your ballot (preferably within a spoiler tag), otherwise your ballot will be disqualified.

Scoring
For ranked ballots, the top-ranked title will receive the number of points equal to the number of titles on the ballot, with each successive title receiving one point less.
I.e. A list with 20 titles means #1 has 20 points, #2 has 19 points, and #20 has 1 point; a list with 5 titles means #1 has 5 points, #2 has 4 points, and #5 has 1 point.

For unranked ballots, each title will receive an equal share of the total points that would have been allotted it the ballot had been ranked.
I.e. A list with 20 titles means each title would receive 10.5 points; a list with 5 titles means each title would receive 3 points.

Resources:
Canadian films sorted by number of votes*
Canadian films sorted by your rating on imdb*
Wikipedia article on Cinema of Canada
*due to imdb allowing films to be attributed to more than one country, many titles in this filter may be ineligible for this poll if Canada is not the primary country of production. Decisions about uncertain films will be listed in the second post of this thread.

Many thanks to Rufus-T & gromit82 for the framework from the Year by Year polls, and to maxwelldeux for the Excel template.

Participants:
Fully ranked lists of 20 titles unless otherwise indicated
Deadline: 11:59:59 p.m. November 30, 2022, UTC -10 (Hawaii Time)
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If you have any eligibility questions, please mention them in this thread. This post will act as a summary of all decisions (films listed in alphabetical order in each section).

Final Decisions
A Dangerous Method (2011) - UK/Canada/Germany - British film, not eligible
A History of Violence (2005) - USA/Canada - American film, not eligible
Atlantic City (1980) - Canada/France - Canadian film, eligible
Back and Forth [<--->] (1969) - Canada/USA - Canadian film, eligible
Beyond the Black Rainbow (2010) - Canada - Canadian film, eligible
Blindness (2008) - Canada/Brazil - Canadian film, eligible
Brand Upon the Brain! (2006) - USA/Canada - American film, not eligible
Brooklyn (2014) - UK/Ireland/Canada - British film, not eligible
Eastern Promises (2007) - UK/Canada - British film, not eligible
Felicia's Journey (1999) - UK/Canada - British film, not eligible
Iron Maiden: Flight 666 (2009) - Canada/UK - Canadian film, eligible
L'extraordinaire destin de Madame Brouette (2002) - Senegal/France/Canada - Senegalese film, not eligible
La nuit des rois [Night of the Kings] (2020) - Ivory Coast/France/Canada/Senegal - Ivorian film, not eligible
La région centrale (1971) - Canada/USA - Canadian film, eligible
Les triplettes de Belleville [The Triplets of Belleville] (2003) - France/Canada/Belgium - French film, not eligible
M. Butterfly (1993) - USA/Canada - American film, not eligible
Map of the Human Heart (1992) - Australia/UK/Canada/France - Australian film, not eligible
Maps to the Stars (2014) - Canada/USA - Canadian film, eligible
Possessor (2020) - Canada/UK - Canadian film, eligible
Room (2015) - Ireland/Canada - Irish film, not eligible
Spider (2002) - Canada/UK - Canadian film, eligible
The Dead Zone (1983) - USA/Canada - American film, not eligible
The Fly (1986) - USA/Canada - American film, not eligible
The Power of the Dog (2021) - UK/New Zealand/Canada/Australia/USA - New Zealander film, not eligible
The Tibetan Book of the Dead: The Great Liberation (1994) - Japan/Canada - Japanese film, not eligible
Turbo Kid (2015) - Canada/New Zealand/USA - Canadian film, eligible
Wavelength (1967) - Canada/USA - Canadian film, eligible

Ongoing Discussions
Colossal (2016) - Canada/USA/Spain/South Korea
Tucker and Dale vs. Evil (2010) - USA/Canada
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Yo Ferg, what's your ruling on Colossal (2016, Nacho Vigalondo)?

Oh also, Tucker and Dale vs. Evil (2010, Eli Craig)?
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70% of my list will probably be made up of shorts. This should be right up Minkin's alley.
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Only one good Canadian movie ever made.

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And as I'm too impatient for a ruling, imma just post my list now lol. Not having Room (2015, Lenny Abrahamson), Brooklyn (2015, John Crowley), and Eastern Promises (2007, David Cronenberg) in my list makes me a little sad, as I'd have them at #2, #4, and #19 if I could. But c'est la vie, more films where they came from :D
Ranked, of course:

Incendies (2010, Denis Villeneuve)
Jésus de Montréal (1989, Denys Arcand)
Atanarjuat (2001, Zacharias Kunuk)
Last Night (1998, Don McKellar)
Videodrome (1983, David Cronenberg)

Monsieur Lazhar (2011, Philippe Falardeau)
My Winnipeg (2007, Guy Maddin)
Colossal (2016, Nacho Vigalondo)
C'est pas moi, je le jure! (2008, Philippe Falardeau)
Hyena Road (2015, Paul Gross)

Window Horses (2016, Ann Marie Fleming)
SGaawaay K'uuna (2018, Gwaii Edenshaw and Helen Haig-Brown)
L'homme qui plantait des arbres (1987, Frédéric Back)
Neighbours (1952, Norman McLaren)
Akilla's Escape (2020, Charles Officer)

Rebelle (2012, Kim Nguyen)
Enemy (2013, Denis Villeneuve)
C.R.A.Z.Y. (2005, Jean-Marc Vallée)
Pontypool (2008, Bruce McDonald)
Café de Flore (2011, Jean-Marc Vallée)

And if Colossal doesn't count, move this up to #20:

Scanners (1981, David Cronenberg)
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Arkantos wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 12:48 am Yo Ferg, what's your ruling on Colossal (2016, Nacho Vigalondo)?

Oh also, Tucker and Dale vs. Evil (2010, Eli Craig)?
Hadn't realized Colossal was listed as Canada first, had assumed it was American. Director is Spanish, too. I'll have to look into this further.

Tucker and Dale I know I researched for the last big Canada poll, and I think I decided it was American, but I'll double-check again to be sure.
blocho wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 1:24 am Only one good Canadian movie ever made.

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1. Meatballs (1979)
2. Incendies (2010)
3. Neighbours (1952)
4. Making Overtures: The Story of a Community Orchestra (1984)
5. The Big Snit (1985)
6. Charade (1984)
7. I’ll Find a Way (1977)
8. The Colours of My Father: A Portrait of Sam Borenstein (1992)
9. Monsieur Lazhar (2011)
10. Helicopter Canada (1966)
11. Jesus of Montreal (1989)
12. Paddle to the Sea (1966)
13. The Sand Castle (1977)
14. The Man Who Planted Trees (1987)
15. The Drag (1966)
16. Bob’s Birthday (1993)
17. Fauve (2018)
18. Flamenco at 5:15 (1983)
19. Nails (1979)
20. Animal Behaviour (2018)

Just missed the list
Blake (1969)

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gunnar wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 1:47 am 4. Josie and the Pussycats (2001)

Just missed the list
Animal Behaviour (2018)
Blake (1969)
Josie and the Pussycats is American, so not eligible for this poll. I've submitted a correction on imdb - it was only filmed in Vancouver but no Canadian production companies were involved, and it's entirely an American production (which makes sense, since it's based on an Archie Comics, which is also American).

So you can replace it with something else.
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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 2:01 am
gunnar wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 1:47 am 4. Josie and the Pussycats (2001)

Just missed the list
Animal Behaviour (2018)
Blake (1969)
Josie and the Pussycats is American, so not eligible for this poll. I've submitted a correction on imdb - it was only filmed in Vancouver but no Canadian production companies were involved, and it's entirely an American production (which makes sense, since it's based on an Archie Comics, which is also American).

So you can replace it with something else.
It surprised me when the movie popped up as Canadian, but since IMDb had it that way, I went with it. I've updated the list. Thanks.

(and I have a complete run of the Josie and the Pussycats comics by the way) :D
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1. Kamouraska (Claude Jutra, 1973)
2. A Married Couple (Allan King, 1969)
3. Away from Her (Sarah Polley, 2006)
4. Dying at Grace (Allan King, 2003)
5. Goin' Down the Road (Donald Shebib, 1970)
6. Paddle to the Sea (Bill Mason, 1966)
7. The Grey Fox (Phillip Borsos, 1982)
8. Pour la suite du monde [Of Whales, the Moon, and Men] (Michel Brault & Pierre Perrault, 1963)
9. Next of Kin (Atom Egoyan, 1984)
10. Memorandum (Donald Brittain & John Spotton, 1967)
11. Heater (Terrance Odette, 1999)
12. Silence of the North (Allan King, 1981)
13. Anne of Green Gables (Kevin Sullivan, 1985)
14. LĂ©olo (Jean-Claude Lauzon, 1992)
15. The Luck of Ginger Coffey (Irvin Kershner, 1964)
16. The Selfish Giant (Peter Sander, 1971)
17. C.R.A.Z.Y. (Jean-Marc Vallée, 2005)
18. The Silent Partner (Daryl Duke & Curtis Hanson, 1978)
19. The Railrodder (Gerald Potterton, Buster Keaton & John Spotton, 1964)
20. Atlantic City (Louis Malle, 1980)
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Stories We Tell (Sarah Polley, 2012)
Les invasions barbares [The Barbarian Invasions] (Denys Arcand, 2003)
Inupiatun: In the Manner of the Eskimo (Harold Tichenor & Peter Haynes, 1981)
Canada Vignettes: Log Driver's Waltz (John Weldon, 1979)
The Sweet Hereafter (Atom Egoyan, 1997)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2366450/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338135/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080930/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133932/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120255/
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Here is my ranked list, taken from of my master list of 115 seen: https://boxd.it/ePkmK

1. Anne of Green Gables (1985)
2. Cube (1997)
3. Into the Forest (2015)
4. Anne of Green Gables: The Sequel (1987)
5. Mommy (2014)
6. The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane (1976)
7. Cube Zero (2004)
8. Monster Trucks (2016)
9. The Ultimate Weapon (1998)
10. Cube 2: Hypercube (2002)
11. Circle of Two (1981)
12. Bambi Meets Godzilla (1969)
13. Backcountry (2014)
14. Anne of Green Gables: The Continuing Story (2000)
15. Tucker and Dale vs. Evil (2010)
16. Colossal (2016)
17. The Changeling (1980)
18. American Mary (2012)
19. Memory Box (2021)
20. Videodrome (1983)


Reserves
21. Matthias & Maxime (2019)
22. Black Christmas (1974)
23. Paradise (1982)
24. Hunt to Kill (2010)
25. Turbo Kid (2015)


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zzzorf wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 4:28 am 8. Monster Trucks (2016)
15. Tucker and Dale vs. Evil (2010)
16. Colossal (2016)
19. Memory Box (2021)

Reserves
21. Matthias & Maxime (2019)
22. Black Christmas (1974)
23. Paradise (1982)
24. Hunt to Kill (2010)
25. Turbo Kid (2015)
Monster Trucks - not eligible - American production filmed in Canada, but no Canadian production companies listed anywhere. I've submitted a correction to imdb.

Tucker and Dale & Colossal - pending as per above

Memory Box - not eligible - All the sources I can find list the film as a French-Lebanese-Canadian co-production, in that order (and a few add Qatar at the end). That, and given the directors are Lebanese and this film is based on their experiences, and the action takes places mostly in both Canada and Lebanon, I'm going to call this a Lebanese film unless someone can indicate otherwise. Lebanon is also the first country listed on imdb.

Everything else checks out.
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01. Pin (1988)
02. The Mask (1961)
03. Take This Waltz (2011)
04. Anvil: The Story of Anvil (2008)
05. Class of 1984 (1982)
06. Stories We Tell (2012)
07. The Pit (1981)
08. La guerre des tuques (1984)
09. My Life Without Me (2003)
10. Atlantic City (1980)
11. Kamouraska (1973)
12. eXistenZ (1999)
13. Dear Mr. Gacy (2010)
14. LĂ©olo (1992)
15. Death Weekend (1976)
16. Crash (1996)
17. Neighbours (1952)
18. My Bloody Valentine (1981)
19. Videodrome (1983)
20. The Changeling (1980)
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1. Paddle to the Sea (1966, Bill Mason)
2. Les ordres (1974, Michel Brault)
3. Begone Dull Care (1950, Norman McLaren & Evelyn Lambart)
4. Bestiaire (2012, Denis Côté)
5. Very Nice, Very Nice (1961, Arthur Lipsett)
6. Le fleuve aux grandes eaux (1993, Frédéric Back)
7. Mommy (2014, Xavier Dolan)
8. Pas de deux (1968, Norman McLaren)
9. Pour la suite du monde (1963, Michel Brault & Pierre Perrault)
10. Juste la fin du monde (2016, Xavier Dolan)
11. Vic + Flo ont vu un ours (2013, Denis Côté)
12. Blind Vaysha (2016, Theodore Ushev)
13. Le chat dans le sac (1964, Gilles Groulx)
14. Nightingales in December (2011, Theodore Ushev)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060810/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071949/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041169/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2125439/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055594/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107574/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3612616/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063417/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057423/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4645368/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2385882/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5559726/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057937/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2099706/
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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 5:02 am
zzzorf wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 4:28 am 8. Monster Trucks (2016)
15. Tucker and Dale vs. Evil (2010)
16. Colossal (2016)
19. Memory Box (2021)

Reserves
21. Matthias & Maxime (2019)
22. Black Christmas (1974)
23. Paradise (1982)
24. Hunt to Kill (2010)
25. Turbo Kid (2015)
Monster Trucks - not eligible - American production filmed in Canada, but no Canadian production companies listed anywhere. I've submitted a correction to imdb.

Tucker and Dale & Colossal - pending as per above

Memory Box - not eligible - All the sources I can find list the film as a French-Lebanese-Canadian co-production, in that order (and a few add Qatar at the end). That, and given the directors are Lebanese and this film is based on their experiences, and the action takes places mostly in both Canada and Lebanon, I'm going to call this a Lebanese film unless someone can indicate otherwise. Lebanon is also the first country listed on imdb.

Everything else checks out.
Ok when I get a chance I will take them out and move up the first two reserves and then wait on your ruling of the other two movies.
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1 - 5 - The Forbidden Room (2015)
2 - 5 - Cosmopolis (2012)
3 - 4,5 - Enemy (2013)
4 - 4,5 - Out of the Blue (1980)
5 - 4,5 - eXistenZ (1999)
6 - 4,5 - Ste. Anne (2021)
7 - 4,5 - Careful (1992)
8 - 4,5 - Antiviral (2012)
9 - 4,5 - The 20th Century (2019)
10 - 4,5 - Videodrome (1983)
11 - 4,5 - Naked Lunch (1991)
12 - 4,5 - Mommy (2014)
13 - 4,5 - Possessor (2020)
14 - 4 - La Vraie Nature de Bernadette (1972)
15 - 4 - Warrendale (1967)
16 - 4 - When Night Is Falling (1995)
17 - 4 - La Région Centrale (1971)
18 - 4 - Beyond the Black Rainbow (2010)
19 - 4 - Dying at Grace (2003)
20 - 4 - Lamentations: A Monument for the Dead World (1985)


backups if some are not deemed elligable:
4 Kamouraska
4 The Saddest Music in the World (2003)
4 Les Amours Imaginaires (2010)
4 Illuminated Texts
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I'd count Memory Box as Canadian too. It's about Canadian-Lebanese people ; yes, a significant part of the story is told in flashback and happens in Lebanon, but it's very much an immigration story, one that's interested in the generational divide between first and second generation, ie themes that are specifically about people living in Canada... but I guess the actual content of the film plays a very small role in your arbitrations.

Anyway, a tentative list:

1. L'homme qui plantait des arbres (Frédéric Back, 1987)
2. Les mauvaises herbes (Louis BĂ©langer, 2016)
3. Videodrome (David Cronenberg, 1983)
4. Mommy (Xavier Dolan, 2014)
5. Matthias et Maxime (Xavier Dolan, 2019)
6. Incendies (Denis Villeneuve, 2010)
7. Maudie (Aisling Walsh, 2016)
8. Enemy (Denis Villeneuve, 2013)
9. Répertoire des villes disparues (Denis Côté, 2019)
10. The 20th Century (Matthew Rankin, 2019)
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Best thing David Cronenberg ever did was get a son. Guess you could say the same about George P. Cosmatos. Also did something weird and added a short, first time ever. It's stop-motion, it's lovely, watch it.

01. Beyond the Black Rainbow by Panos Cosmatos
02. Possessor by Brandon Cronenberg
03. Antiviral by Brandon Cronenberg
04. Ghostland by Pascal Laugier
05. Madame Tutli-Putli by Chris Lavis, Maciek Szczerbowski
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Teproc wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 9:17 am I'd count Memory Box as Canadian too. It's about Canadian-Lebanese people ; yes, a significant part of the story is told in flashback and happens in Lebanon, but it's very much an immigration story, one that's interested in the generational divide between first and second generation, ie themes that are specifically about people living in Canada... but I guess the actual content of the film plays a very small role in your arbitrations.

To be honest I have it in both countries lists but I figured Lebanon would be deemed the majority country
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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 12:23 am If you have any eligibility questions, please mention them in this thread. This post will act as a summary of all decisions (films listed in alphabetical order in each section).

Final Decisions
[...]
Brand Upon the Brain! (2006) - USA/Canada - American film, not eligible
[...]
Some really tough decisions (and discussion) to make..., but I think (fear) you're right with this one. This is financed by some Seattle based company as first production company. I'll go with your list, but will wait for some other verdicts. I can definitely make a Top 20. "Vic+Flo" were added to MUBI this week, so I will watch this before the deadline and come up with my list.
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Going full philosophy/spirituality/existentialism/experimental on this one with almost no cherry-picking involved. Canada makes me assemble my second-most Hindu film list, who woulda thunk.

[unranked as hell (नरक) / titles telling a stream-of-consciousness tale of the death of God and his resurrection as a post-human...not quantifiable in numbers; God is a number you cannot count to]


You Are Here (2010, Daniel Cockburn)
<---> (1969, Michael Snow)
Square Inch Field (1968, David Rimmer)
Inventing the Future (2020, Isiah Medina)
Possible Worlds (2000, Robert Lepage)

Neon Parallel 1996 (2015, Jon Rafman)
Consolations (Love Is an Art of Time) Part 1: The Fugitive Gods (1988, R. Bruce Elder) [as a stand-in for the whole trilogy, which I guess isn't a thing here, but just saying]
Gambling, Gods and LSD (2002, Peter Mettler)
Arcanum (2009, Sanjay F. Sharma)
Misery Loves Company (1993, Carl Brown)

Subconscious Cruelty (2000, Karim Hussain)
Scissere (1982, Peter Mettler)
Dying at Grace (2003, Allan King)
Samadhi (2017, Daniel Schmidt)
Illuminated Texts (1982, R. Bruce Elder)

The Education of Fredrick Fitzell / Flashback (2020, Christopher MacBride)
Memory for Max, Claire, Ida and Company (2005, Allan King)
The Blackcoat's Daughter / February (2015, Oz Perkins)
La guerre du feu / Quest for Fire (1981, Jean-Jacques Annaud)
The End (1995, Chris Landreth)
I Am Da Be-all and end-all of things, I am the alpha and the omega, I am the pretty thing that lives in the house

Applejuice to Norman McLaren, Xavier Dolan, to the only DC that matters, and to castles built out of sand.

Requesting rulings on:
The End of Time (2012, Peter Mettler) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2176504/reference/
Romance (2011, Georges Schwizgebel) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2193187/reference/
The Cube (1969, Jim Henson) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0291118/reference/
Martyrs (2008, Pascal Laugier) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1029234/reference/
Parents (1989, Bob Balaban) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098068/reference/
Emporte-moi (1999, LĂ©a Pool) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0148103/reference/
Sausage Party (2016, Greg Tiernan & Conrad Vernon) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1700841/reference/
Cosmopolis (2012, the only DC that matters) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1480656/reference/
Resident Evil: Retribution (the 3D version) (2012, the other Paul Anderson) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1855325/reference/
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Eligibility questions:

Naked Lunch (David Cronenberg)
Calendar (Atom Egoyan)
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Eligibility questions:

Casino Jack (George Hickenlooper, 2010)
The Assignment (Walter Hill, 2016)
Len and Company (Tim Godsall, 2015)
Chloe (Atom Egoyan, 2009)
Shiva Baby (Emma Seligman, 2020)
Regression (Alejandro Amenábar, 2015)
Resurrection (Russell Mulcahy, 1999)
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pitchorneirda wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 8:54 am PS: I'm ready to remove whatever Dolan is deemed as French
All of Dolan's films so far are Canadian for these polls, so you're good.

Teproc wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 9:17 am I'd count Memory Box as Canadian too. It's about Canadian-Lebanese people ; yes, a significant part of the story is told in flashback and happens in Lebanon, but it's very much an immigration story, one that's interested in the generational divide between first and second generation, ie themes that are specifically about people living in Canada... but I guess the actual content of the film plays a very small role in your arbitrations.
Yeah, content is taken into consideration, but not the primary factor. There are thousands of films made by one country about another.
Y U M E wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 9:56 am
Fergenaprido wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 12:23 am If you have any eligibility questions, please mention them in this thread. This post will act as a summary of all decisions (films listed in alphabetical order in each section).

Final Decisions
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Brand Upon the Brain! (2006) - USA/Canada - American film, not eligible
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Some really tough decisions (and discussion) to make..., but I think (fear) you're right with this one. This is financed by some Seattle based company as first production company. I'll go with your list, but will wait for some other verdicts. I can definitely make a Top 20. "Vic+Flo" were added to MUBI this week, so I will watch this before the deadline and come up with my list.
Yeah, the whole premise of production was this Seattle company going "Hey Guy Maddin! We love you and we want you to make a movie with us, but you have to use all local talent and film it here in Washington". :lol:
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Perception de Ambiguity wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 11:41 am
Requesting rulings on:
The End of Time (2012, Peter Mettler) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2176504/reference/
Romance (2011, Georges Schwizgebel) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2193187/reference/
The Cube (1969, Jim Henson) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0291118/reference/
Martyrs (2008, Pascal Laugier) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1029234/reference/
Parents (1989, Bob Balaban) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098068/reference/
Emporte-moi (1999, LĂ©a Pool) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0148103/reference/
Sausage Party (2016, Greg Tiernan & Conrad Vernon) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1700841/reference/
Cosmopolis (2012, the only DC that matters) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1480656/reference/
Resident Evil: Retribution (the 3D version) (2012, the other Paul Anderson) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1855325/reference/[/color]
Canadian, thus eligible
Romance
Emporte-moi
Cosmopolis

Not Canadian, thus not eligible
The End of Time (Swiss)
Martyrs (French)
Parents (American)
Sausage Party (American)
Resident Evil: Retribution (American)

The Cube (American) - I hadn't heard of this before, and I see it was filmed in Canada and is listed as Canada first on imdb, but the production company is American and the TV anthology series it's part of is American, so I think the Canadian attribute is in error.

For your ballot, the ones I already knew are all Canadian, but there are 5 or 6 new to me I need to check out. Will do so later.
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OldAle1 wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 12:56 pm Eligibility questions:

Naked Lunch (David Cronenberg)
Calendar (Atom Egoyan)
Both eligible.
Silga wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 4:25 pm Eligibility questions:
Casino Jack (George Hickenlooper, 2010) - Canadian, eligible
The Assignment (Walter Hill, 2016) - American, not eligible
Len and Company (Tim Godsall, 2015) - American, not eligible
Chloe (Atom Egoyan, 2009) - Canadian, eligible
Shiva Baby (Emma Seligman, 2020) - American, not eligible
Regression (Alejandro Amenábar, 2015) - Spanish, not eligible
Resurrection (Russell Mulcahy, 1999) - American, not eligible
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I have included a few questionable films marked as Canadian according to IMDB that I'm not too sure about and will defer to Ferg's assessment for determining if they are eligible or not. In case any are deemed ineligible I'll include a few runners up that can be moved up if required:

1. Come True
2. Away From Her
3. Incendies
4. The Changeling
5. Black Christmas
6. Cafe De Flore
7. Enemy
8. Mommy
9. The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane
10. Butchers
11. Anything For Jackson
12. Polytechnique
13. Ginger Snaps
14. Gretel & Hansel
15. Dead Dicks
16. Slaxx
17. Still/Born
18. Lifechanger
19. Ravenous
20. It's Not Me I Swear

Additional if required:

21. A Colony
22. C.R.A.Z.Y.
23. Possessor

Edit: Removed The Witch and The Lighthouse as they have been deemed ineligible, shifted the other films up and moved Ravenous and It's Not Me I Swear up to be included in my top 20.
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So many ways to do this - I thought about doing all shorts, or no shorts, or all Guy Maddin. I settled on just doing the list I already have with a few changes - only one per director with two exceptions (Maddin and Polley), and I left off the most famous films by two other major directors, neither of which I've seen in a long time, and one of which I'd bet money on winning this poll in a landslide with or without my vote. So this is fine.

1. The Hart of London (Jack Chambers, 1970)
2. The Forbidden Room (Guy Maddin/Evan Johnson, 2015)
3. Stories We Tell (Sarah Polley, 2012)
4. My Winnipeg (Guy Maddin, 2007)
5. Les ordres (Michel Brault, 1974)
6. Naked Lunch (David Cronenberg, 1991)
7. Calendar (Atom Egoyan, 1993)
8. Neighbours (Norman McLaren, 1952)
9. Kamouraska (Claude Jutra, 1973)
10. *Corpus Callosum (Michael Snow, 2002)
11. Away From Her (Sarah Polley, 2006)
12. Anne of Green Gables (Kevin Sullivan, 1985)
13. Laurence Anyways (Xavier Dolan, 2012)
14. Sonatine (Micheline LanctĂ´t, 1984)
15. The Owl Who Married a Goose: An Eskimo Legend (Caroline Leaf, 1974)
16. Crac (Frédéric Back, 1980)
17. Rispondetemi (LĂ©a Pool, 1992)
18. Crime Wave (John Paizs, 1985)
19. Jésus de Montréal (Denys Arcand, 1989)
20. Possible Worlds (Robert Lepage, 2000)
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filmbantha wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 7:16 pm I have included a few questionable films marked as Canadian according to IMDB that I'm not too sure about and will defer to Ferg's assessment for determining if they are eligible or not. In case any are deemed ineligible I'll include a few runners up that can be moved up if required:

9. The Witch
12. The Lighthouse
16. Gretel & Hansel

Additional if required:

21. Ravenous
22. It's Not Me I Swear
23. A Colony
24. C.R.A.Z.Y.
25. Possessor
The Witch and The Lighthouse are both American, so not eligible.

I have Gretel & Hansel as American, but since Oz Perkins is Canadian let me look into this more. It might also be Irish.

All of your backups are eligible.
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Not sure if these would make my top 20 yet, but eligibility please?

Dune: Part One (2021)
The Fountain (2006)

EDIT: NEVER MIND, didn't make my top 20.
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joachimt wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2022, 7:50 pm Not sure if these would make my top 20 yet, but eligibility please?

Dune: Part One (2021)
The Fountain (2006)
Nope. Both American. Surprised they're both listed as Canada-first - I've submitted corrections to imdb.

Edit: Your ninja edit was too fast for me lol
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Okay, I've looked further into Tucker and Dale vs. Evil.

I'd allowed it for the last big Canada poll since it's an American-Canadian co-production and was nominated for local awards in BC.

However, for this poll I'm considering it not eligible.

Main director, writers, producer, and actors are American, in a story set in America.
Main production companies are a tad confusing (with Indian and British companies headlining as "presenting", and 2 American and 2 Canadian companies listed as associates), but they seem to revolve around Eden Rock Media, the company of executive producer Thomas Augsberger, based in LA.

This article from 2009 indicates "is produced by Eden Rock Media (USA), Kintop (USA)/Reliance L.P. (India) , Urban Island (Canada) and Looby Lou (UK)."
This article from 2011 states that a distribution company "negotiated the deal with Thomas Augsberger of Eden Rock Media", which indicates to me that Eden Rock Media is the main production company.
This Variety review lists the production company as solely Canada, but then lists the production companies as "Production: A Reliance Big Pictures (India) and Loubyloo Prods. (UK) presentation in association with Eden Rock Media (USA), Urban Island (UK), Kintop Pictures (USA)." I find Variety is usually fairly reliable for production companies in their reviews.

So, all this points to it being primarily an American production, with significant Canadian input, and some British and Indian financing. I've submitted a correction to imdb.

Let me know if you disagree and have additional information. :)
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My list:

1. Careful (1992, Guy Maddin)
2. The 20th Century (2019, Matthew Rankin)
3. Cosmopolis (2012, David Cronenberg)
4. My Winnipeg (2007, Guy Maddin)
5. Jésus de Montréal (1989, Denys Arcand)
6. Naked Lunch (1991, David Cronenberg)
7. The Saddest Music in the World (2003, Guy Maddin)
8. Laurence Anyways (2012, Xavier Dolan)
9. The Sweet Hereafter (1997, Atom Egoyan)
10. Dead Ringers (1988, David Cronenberg)

11. Juste la fin du monde / It's Only the End of the World (2016, Xavier Dolan)
12. Keyhole (2011, Guy Maddin)
13. Exotica (1994, Atom Egoyan)
14. Crime Wave (1985, John Paizs)
15. Maps to the Stars (2014, David Cronenberg)
16. Cowards Bend the Knee or The Blue Hands (2003)
17. The Body Remembers When the World Broke Open (2019, Kathleen Hepburn, Elle-Máijá Tailfeathers)
18. À tout prendre (1963, Claude Jutra)
19. Come on Children (1973, Allan King)
20. Le déclin de l'empire américain (1986, Denys Arcand)

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1. The Sweet Hereafter (Atom Egoyan, 1997)
2. The Grey Fox (Phillip Borsos, 1982)
3. Stories We Tell (Sarah Polley, 2012)
4. Atlantic City (Louis Malle, 1980)
5. Guest of Honour (Atom Egoyan, 2019)
6. Remember (Atom Egoyan, 2015)
7. Where the Truth Lies (Atom Egoyan, 2005)
8. Chloe (Atom Egoyan, 2009)
9. Coda (Claude Lalonde, 2019)
10. Shivers (David Cronenberg, 1975)
11. Dead Ringers (David Cronenberg, 1988)
12. Drunken Birds (Ivan Grbovic, 2021)
13. The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane (Nicolas Gessner, 1976)
14. The Hummingbird Project (Kim Nguyen, 2018)
15. War Witch (Kim Nguyen, 2012)
16. The Blackcoat's Daughter (Oz Perkins, 2015)
17. Casino Jack (George Hickenlooper, 2010)
18. Summer of 84 (François Simard, Anouk Whissell and Yoann-Karl Whissell, 2018)
19. Disappearance at Clifton Hill (Albert Shin, 2019)
20. Gabrielle (Louise Archambault, 2013)
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Could I have eligibility rulings for the following?

Owning Mahowny - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285861/
The Red Violin -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120802/
Black Robe -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101465/
Dead Ringers -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094964/
Crash -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/
Cave of Forgotten Dreams -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1664894/
The Daytrippers -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116041/

And, of course ...
Police Academy 3: Back in Training -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091777/

(I don't actually need a ruling on Police Academy. I just have a reputation to uphold)
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blocho wrote: ↑November 4th, 2022, 1:09 am Could I have eligibility rulings for the following?
Owning Mahowny - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285861/ - eligible
The Red Violin -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120802/ - eligible
Black Robe -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101465/ - eligible
Dead Ringers -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094964/- eligible
Crash -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/ - eligible
Cave of Forgotten Dreams -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1664894/ - eligible
The Daytrippers -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116041/ - eligible - this one surprised me, since virtually everyone involved is American, but every source around lists it as a Canadian-American production. It was filmed in the US too, which is rare for a Canadian film. So, unless I get ahold of a copy of the film and inspect the credits, this is my decision.

And, of course ...
Police Academy 3: Back in Training -- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091777/ - American, not eligible :P
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1. Stories We Tell
2. The Sweet Hereafter
3. Videodrome
4. Atlantic City
5. Exotica
6. Crash
7. Pontypool
8. Kanehsatake: 270 Years of Resistance
9. The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz
10. Alias Grace
11. The Grey Fox
12. Cave of Forgotten Dreams
13. Spider
14. The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane
15. Black Robe
16. Lies My Father Told Me
17. Scanners
18. The Brood
19. The Silent Partner
20. The Grand Seduction
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Worst: Cosmopolis, The Decline of the American Empire, Hobo with a Shotgun, I Killed My Mother
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