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Which format would you prefer?

Poll ended at November 1st, 2022, 6:22 pm

1) 24 countries, 6 groups of four (2 advance + 4 best third-placed too), round of 16, quarterfinals, semifinals and final. - 54 movies in total
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2) 32 countries, 8 groups of four (2 advance), then 4 groups of 4 (2 advance), quarterfinals, semifinals and final. - 62 movies in total
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Welcome to the fifth season of iCM Forum's World Cup for movies. This is a tournament which starts with a bunch of countries for which movies are selected. After watching the movies, the watchers vote for them. Based on the votes countries proceed to the next round and new movies will be picked for that new round. This continues till we have a winning country.

This time we will collect all the people interested in being managers, and only then we will decide on the format and the number of countries/films featured.

The rest will remain the same.
- Each country will be managed by one manager who'll pick the movies.
- Everyone is allowed to manage a country.
- Managers can pick any country from the world. (Yours truly will keep track of countries that haven't been picked yet)
- We'll start with one country per manager. If we have less than required number of volunteers, a second country can be picked by some (we'll see later how we'll do this, if it's necessary).
- Movies should have less than 1000 checks on iCM.
- Movies are shorter than 180 min.
- A director can't compete twice in the same season for a country.
- Movies from previous seasons are not allowed.
- In case of managers with multiple countries, no manager will compete himself.

Schedule, pace and starting date will be decided later.
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Here we're gonna list all the managers (and the countries they picked once the S4 quarterfinalists did so):

01. 72aicm - GERMANY, ICELAND
02. Angel Glez - ITALY
03. beavis - PORTUGAL, SWITZERLAND
04. clemmetarey - ARMENIA
05. Fergenaprido - CANADA, EGYPT
06. filmbantha - FRANCE, JAPAN
07. hurluberlu - SINGAPORE, BRAZIL
08. joachimt - SPAIN, RUSSIA
09. jvv - LITHUANIA
10. klaus78 - IRAN, CHINA
11. Mario Gaborović - CYPRUS, SOUTH AFRICA
12. Onderhond - TAIWAN, HONG KONG
13. pitchorneirda - SWEDEN, NETHERLANDS
14. Ritesh - USA, INDIA
15. RogerTheMovieManiac88 - AZERBAIJAN, AUSTRALIA
16. sacmersault - MEXICO, ECUADOR
17. shugs - POLAND, ROMANIA
18. sol - MOLDOVA, IRELAND
19. St. Gloede - HUNGARY, SERBIA
20. toromash - DENMARK
21. whizwilly - SOUTH KOREA
22. zhangalan - ARGENTINA
23. zzzorf - TUNISIA, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
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I'm in and hoping to pick a country that hasn't competed in the WC before (I have one in mind already unless somebody else snags it first!).
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I’m in of course. I wouldnt mind a little discussion on the rules first, but alas.
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72aicm wrote: October 16th, 2022, 9:57 am I’m in of course. I wouldnt mind a little discussion on the rules first, but alas.
Exceeding the 32 managers would certainly go towards 36, 40 or 48 countries, and that would bring rule discussion towards logic conclusions.
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Mario Gaborović wrote: October 16th, 2022, 10:05 am
72aicm wrote: October 16th, 2022, 9:57 am I’m in of course. I wouldnt mind a little discussion on the rules first, but alas.
Exceeding the 32 managers would certainly go towards 36, 40 or 48 countries, and that would bring rule discussion towards logic conclusions.
I meant the check-rule. I for one would not mind a decrease in number of checks per round like we did in the Manager Cup, but it’s no biggie. Thanks for starting the sign up thread Mario. :)
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I'm in.

I'm sure we won't exceed 32 managers.
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I'm in. While I'm not going with a country that hasn't competed before like sol I will be going with a country which has never won a match before.
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I'm in too.
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Count me in.
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I'm in.
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We have 9 managers so far.
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I'm in.
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Do you guys want me to host again?
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joachimt wrote: October 16th, 2022, 7:37 pm Do you guys want me to host again?
I was going to ask you if you would, since you've done such a great job of it in the past. :D
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Fergenaprido wrote: October 16th, 2022, 7:43 pm
joachimt wrote: October 16th, 2022, 7:37 pm Do you guys want me to host again?
I was going to ask you if you would, since you've done such a great job of it in the past. :D
Sure, I will. I'm often offline for a few days as you have noticed, but I never miss deadlines. So I am still able to host.
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joachimt wrote: October 16th, 2022, 7:37 pm Do you guys want me to host again?
We also want you to manage if you're fine with that.
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Mario Gaborović wrote: October 16th, 2022, 8:06 pm
joachimt wrote: October 16th, 2022, 7:37 pm Do you guys want me to host again?
We also want you to manage if you're fine with that.
No, I won't.
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I will give it a try
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We're stuck at 12 managers. Looks like we who participate as managers are gonna have to choose TWO films instead. (l) :banana:
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We're not stuck. You started this thread just yesterday. Not everyone is online every day.
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I'm in.
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Glad to see the return of FtW.
I'm in.
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zhangalan wrote: October 19th, 2022, 11:28 am Glad to see the return of FtW.
I'm in.
What's FtW?
If you mean "FotW", as in "Film of the Week", that's not it.
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joachimt wrote: October 19th, 2022, 5:06 pm
zhangalan wrote: October 19th, 2022, 11:28 am Glad to see the return of FtW.
I'm in.
What's FtW?
If you mean "FotW", as in "Film of the Week", that's not it.
It's FWC, zhangalan. The very competition YOU initiated.

And I don't understand why so many people submit 500<400 but never take part in World Cup. Don't you understand it's quickest way possible to get those films the recognition ASAP? :blink: :blink: :blink:
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I'm in as well.
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Sure, I'm in.
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16 managers so far, seems perfect to me

It would be nice to have more frequent but shorter editions.
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Just a thought. 16 managers, 2 countries each. First round is managers versus themselves to give them just one country and we progress from there. Either that or make it like last year's with the 32 split into groups of 4 with top two advancing, that worked well last time I thought.
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zzzorf wrote: October 21st, 2022, 11:28 pm Just a thought. 16 managers, 2 countries each. First round is managers versus themselves to give them just one country and we progress from there. Either that or make it like last year's with the 32 split into groups of 4 with top two advancing, that worked well last time I thought.
That kinda sounds like fun.
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The idea of managers against themselves is kind of fun, and tempting. But I also like the traditional format.
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72aicm wrote: October 21st, 2022, 11:48 pm
zzzorf wrote: October 21st, 2022, 11:28 pm Just a thought. 16 managers, 2 countries each. First round is managers versus themselves to give them just one country and we progress from there.
That kinda sounds like fun.
I absolutely love this idea too. :banana:
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zzzorf wrote: October 21st, 2022, 11:28 pm Just a thought. 16 managers, 2 countries each. First round is managers versus themselves to give them just one country and we progress from there. Either that or make it like last year's with the 32 split into groups of 4 with top two advancing, that worked well last time I thought.
Sorry zzzorf, I don’t like that idea: I would have zero motivation for the first round and simply decide what country I want to carry on for the rest of the competition. If we go the 16/32 route I would put the two countries in separate half of the board so they can only meet (unlikely) in finale.

As pitch is saying, a shorter, smaller tournament is fine too.
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hurluberlu wrote: October 22nd, 2022, 6:45 am
zzzorf wrote: October 21st, 2022, 11:28 pm Just a thought. 16 managers, 2 countries each. First round is managers versus themselves to give them just one country and we progress from there. Either that or make it like last year's with the 32 split into groups of 4 with top two advancing, that worked well last time I thought.
Sorry zzzorf, I don’t like that idea: I would have zero motivation for the first round and simply decide what country I want to carry on for the rest of the competition. If we go the 16/32 route I would put the two countries in separate half of the board so they can only meet (unlikely) in finale.

As pitch is saying, a shorter, smaller tournament is fine too.
There's not a single element of suspense when you go against of yourself; plus I could go with two small countries and somebody would take two big ones, and still one of his would be unable to progress further.

Also 16 is not really a good option coz there's so many countries left unrepresented and winning a tournament of just 16 doesn't really feel like an achievement.
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How about each manager choosing a big country and a small country. Then we do two rounds of 16, one for the big countries and one for the small countries. The winners of each can then compete in a final match.

We would have to establish where each country sits beforehand but this could be fun.

In all honesty though I don't mind how we decide to proceed, I've always loved the cups in any format so I'm just happy another one is in the works 😀
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Mario Gaborović wrote: October 22nd, 2022, 8:12 am
hurluberlu wrote: October 22nd, 2022, 6:45 am
zzzorf wrote: October 21st, 2022, 11:28 pm Just a thought. 16 managers, 2 countries each. First round is managers versus themselves to give them just one country and we progress from there. Either that or make it like last year's with the 32 split into groups of 4 with top two advancing, that worked well last time I thought.
Sorry zzzorf, I don’t like that idea: I would have zero motivation for the first round and simply decide what country I want to carry on for the rest of the competition. If we go the 16/32 route I would put the two countries in separate half of the board so they can only meet (unlikely) in finale.

As pitch is saying, a shorter, smaller tournament is fine too.
There's not a single element of suspense when you go against of yourself; plus I could go with two small countries and somebody would take two big ones, and still one of his would be unable to progress further.

Also 16 is not really a good option coz there's so many countries left unrepresented and winning a tournament of just 16 doesn't really feel like an achievement.
I was only spitballing it and didn't actually expect it to get any traction, I personally prefer the 2 countries per manager with the format being what was done in the last World Cup.
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If 16 is already perfect I might let this one go, as I was already a bit in doubt about the expected time investment vs personal succesrate... still I'd hate to miss out on this game... for now I'll just keep following the progress of this thread.
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beavis wrote: October 22nd, 2022, 9:18 am If 16 is already perfect I might let this one go, as I was already a bit in doubt about the expected time investment vs personal succesrate... still I'd hate to miss out on this game... for now I'll just keep following the progress of this thread.
Yeah this is a thread to gauge interest so let's not close volunteering just because we reached 16. We can always open some slots for managers to handle multiple countries until we get to the desired total.
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