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ICM Forum's Favorite Performers, 1st Edition

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Welcome the first edition of the favorite performers poll. This is the first time I am running this poll, so please be bear with me as I am working out the nitty gritty.

WHO ARE THE PERFORMERS
1) Performers has to be a human being: animals (Asta in The Thin Man), cartoon characters (Mickey Mouse), or props do not count
2) Performer must be an individual person. Group performers, such as the Marx Brothers or The Beatles are not allowed, but the individuals within the group are allowed.
3) Performers can be any actor or actress who had appeared in at least one feature film, short film, TV-movie, Mini-series, or TV show that require acting in a part (including enactment in documentary)
4) Appearance in only documentary or live performance in a show such as late night or stand up comedy or reality show as they appeared as themselves do not count.
5) Performers appeared only as voice over such as in narration, dubbed singing, or voice for animation do not count.

RULES
1) Please post a link of IMDb list of your favorite performers
2) The list can be any length
3) The list can be ranked, unranked or partially ranked, or grouped ranked followed as in the Favorite Director poll
- Unranked: All directors get the same number of points.
- Partially ranked: Top X is ranked, rest is unranked
- Group ranked: You have to specify the groups that go together, all films in the group get the same number of points. (eg: 11-20, 21-30, 31-50, 51-100)

For those who do not have an IMDb account:
You may ask someone with an IMDb account to create a list link, or once you have a final list set up, let me know (by PM or in a post) the list IMDb links of the performers in the order you want to list, and I will set up a list for you. Once I PM you a link to the IMDb list, you can't make the change. So, wait til you are sure of the list. You would have to post the IMDb list link if I create the list for you.

SCORING: Following the ordinary half life methodology. I haven't decide on the half life, depends on the length of most list.

DEADLINE: I set this tentatively for Sunday July 31. The actual deadline mostly likely will go beyond that day.
EDIT: New deadline is Sunday August 14

Any questions or clarification, or even suggestion are welcome.

That's it for now. Let's start listing your favorite performers!
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RolandKirkSunglasses Top 5 ranked :imdb:
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lineuphere Ranked :imdb:
insomnius Ranked :imdb:
Caracortada Ranked :imdb:
Gorro Ranked :imdb:
blocho Top 13 Ranked :imdb:
AB537 Top 101 Ranked :imdb:
longsilence Top 3 Ranked :imdb:
zzzorf Group Ranked: 1-5; 6-20; 21-60; 61-140; 141-150 :imdb:
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Ivan0716 # 1 only Ranked :imdb:
jeff_v Ranked :imdb:
Mysterious Dude Ranked :imdb:
Gordon_Gekko Unranked :imdb:
Lonewolf2003 Unranked :imdb:
Smoover Unranked :imdb:
Lakigigar Group Ranked: 1-8; 9-42 :imdb:
beasterne Unranked :imdb:
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As far as rankings, can I do a top portion ranked, then tiers afterward? e.g.

1-50 ranked
51-100 tier 2 unranked
101-200 tier 3 unranked

etc
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I made a selection of my (current) favorite 100 performers
It is clear that their role choices, and some directors who make actors shine, are a big influence on how I rate them as actors.

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567021614/
I couldn't make a start at ranking, so I list them alphabetically
Spoiler
Adam Driver
Adèle Haenel
Anatoliy Solonitsyn
Anders Danielsen Lie
Angela Winkler
Anna Mouglalis
Aoi Miyazaki
Ariane Labed
Aubrey Plaza
Barbara Stanwyck 
Barbara Sukowa
Bibi Andersson
Bruno Ganz
Bulle Ogier
Carloto Cotta
Claudia Cardinale
Colin Farrell
Daniel Olbrychski
Delphine Seyrig
Dominique Sanda
Elina Löwensohn
Emmanuelle Riva
Erland Josephson
Franz Rogowski
Georg Friedrich
Gian Maria Volontè
Golshifteh Farahani
Greta Gerwig
Halina Reijn
Hanna Schygulla
Harry Dean Stanton
Harvey Keitel
Hideko Takamine
Inês de Medeiros
Isabelle Huppert
Isild Le Besco
James Mason
Jason Schwartzman
Jean Gabin
Jean-Louis Trintignant
Jeanne Balibar
Jennifer Jason Leigh
Joan Fontaine
Joaquin Phoenix
Josef Hader
Juliette Binoche
Keanu Reeves
Kristen Stewart
Krystyna Janda
Lars Rudolph
Léa Seydoux
Lee Kang-sheng
Liv Ullmann
Louis Garrel
Makis Papadimitriou
Marcello Mastroianni
Maria de Medeiros
Mathieu Amalric
Max von Sydow
Michael Lonsdale
Michel Piccoli
Michèle Morgan
Michelle Pfeiffer
Michelle Yeoh
Monica Vitti
Nina Hoss
Oleg Yankovskiy
Pascal Greggory
Paula Beer
Per Oscarsson
Peter Lorre
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Raymond Thiry
Rebecca Hall
Romy Schneider
Rosario Dawson
Rüdiger Vogler
Ryuhei Matsuda
Sakura Ando
Sandra Hüller
Sandrine Bonnaire
Scarlett Johansson
Serena Vergano
Setsuko Hara
Stacy Keach
Tadanobu Asano
Tallie Medel
Tamasaburo Bando
Tatsuya Nakadai
Tilda Swinton
Toni Servillo
Udo Kier
Valeria Bruni-Tedeschi
Viggo Mortensen
Vincent Lindon
Vincent Macaigne
Vittorio De Sica
Willem Dafoe
Yekaterina Golubeva
Yves Montand
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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3485845
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1194748/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0813463/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0509264/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935190/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0609662/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0594497/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3987673/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2201555
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001766
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0837784
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000761
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004486/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0644680/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1929018/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001012
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0268199
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0646037/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0786891/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0761212/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0530581/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0728938/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0430746/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4453291/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0295429/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002231
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0267042/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1950086/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0717603
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0778016
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001765/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000172
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0847301
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0210217
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001376/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0494066/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000051
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005403/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0300064/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004462/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0050210/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000492
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000021
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001618/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0352780
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000300/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000206
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0829576/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0417370/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0748964/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2244205/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0497642/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0880521
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0308039
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2810482/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000052/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0210218/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0023832/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001884/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003909
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0681566/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006807/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000201
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000706/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0900143
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0396125/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0946160/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0339621/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3559009/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0651807/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000048
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000450/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0858247/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0356017
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002769
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0206257
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0901057
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0559430/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2747232/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1197689
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0094789
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424060/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0894024/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0361697
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005078
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0038355/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3303059
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000844/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0619938
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0842770/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0785842/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001424/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0116254/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001557
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0512071/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0531195
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001120
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000353/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0326751/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0598971/
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I don't have IMDb anymore, but i wasn't planning on contributing for a big list, is it possible to just add a top 20 or does it have to be an IMDb list?
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Thanks for hosting, Rufus!

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls565761946/
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OldAle1 wrote: July 3rd, 2022, 10:00 pm As far as rankings, can I do a top portion ranked, then tiers afterward? e.g.

1-50 ranked
51-100 tier 2 unranked
101-200 tier 3 unranked

etc
Certainly. Just makes sure to specify the tiers.
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beavis wrote: July 4th, 2022, 2:06 pm I made a selection of my (current) favorite 100 performers
It is clear that their role choices, and some directors who make actors shine, are a big influence on how I rate them as actors.
I don't use Imdb, so I have put the links in spoilers and I hope that qualifies as a list, or maybe somebody can make an Imdb list of them?
Lakigigar wrote: July 6th, 2022, 5:11 pm I don't have IMDb anymore, but i wasn't planning on contributing for a big list, is it possible to just add a top 20 or does it have to be an IMDb list?
Please see the edited OP regarding those who do not have an IMDb account. Let me know via PM when you are sure of the final list.
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ICM Poll: Get Your Act Together

It includes over 300 film and TV actors and actresses from all eras.
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https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567589941/

My Ranked Top 250

Similar to my director lists, I used a formula to calculate the ranking based on my average rating of the movies and (mini-)series they played in and are credited for on Critiker.com. So cameo roles and other small parts are filtered out since Critiker has a limit of 12 performers per title. It was also the easiest source to collect all performers of whom I've seen the minimum required titles.

In my calculations I made a distinction between female and male actors to compensate for the fewer opportunities for and shorter careers of most actresses, especially in the past. The minimum required titles I have seen for actors was 10 and actresses was 8. Also the averages and standard deviations used in the formula are calculated separately. In total 1934 performers qualified of which 63.72% is male. In my top 250 63.2% is male.

Using this method resulted in a list that includes many performers I would never have thought of to include and quite balanced in terms of Hollywood vs the rest of the world and old vs new. However, the top of the list is heavily tipped in favor of Bergman, Ozu and Kurosawa regulars.
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My list, group ranked:
  • 1-13
  • Everyone else
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567505380/
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This is a very interesting project, and I'm quite curious about the results.

1-101 ranked, rest group ranked

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567139669/
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Participants list is updated. Thanks for those posting a list so far. Please verify when you have chance that your information is correct. I will alert you again at least within a week before the poll close.

As expected, I will extend the poll a couple more weeks to Sunday, August 14th. May even let the Unofficial check poll to do the count down first if that poll do finish ahead of this one.
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I've thought about this, but it's very hard to make a list, and i think i'm going to pass for this one because simply it is hard to rank actors/actresses, there will always be some kind of bias towards American performers, performers in the 21st century and male performers (simply because i've seen less films by famous actresses because they seem to be in less films and it's hard to go for equal representation), as well as difficulties in balancing between films i like and films i like less, and also in major roles and minor roles.
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https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567399363/ (all ranked)

I tried to make it boy-girl-boy-girl, but there were a couple I forgot about until after I'd started, and trying to rearrange an IMDB list with that kind of precision is too much for me.
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Gordon_Gekko wrote: July 29th, 2022, 1:55 pm unranked
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567612808/
How much do you hate the living? Say, on a scale from 1 to 1,000,000?
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Perception de Ambiguity wrote: July 30th, 2022, 10:16 pm
Gordon_Gekko wrote: July 29th, 2022, 1:55 pm unranked
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567612808/
How much do you hate the living? Say, on a scale from 1 to 1,000,000?
:D ok, to be honest it really looks a little bit like a memorial :rip: , but i will try to put some life in the list.
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Lakigigar wrote: July 26th, 2022, 3:57 pm I've thought about this, but it's very hard to make a list, and i think i'm going to pass for this one because simply it is hard to rank actors/actresses, there will always be some kind of bias towards American performers, performers in the 21st century and male performers (simply because i've seen less films by famous actresses because they seem to be in less films and it's hard to go for equal representation), as well as difficulties in balancing between films i like and films i like less, and also in major roles and minor roles.
You are welcome to submit an unranked list of your favorite performers if you like.
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Participant list has been updated.
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https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567427992/

1-8 grouped, unranked
9-42 grouped, unranked.
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Tier 1 unranked (1-8 unranked)

Anya Taylor Joy https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5896355
Mia Wasikowska https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1985859
Nicole Kidman https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000173
Elle Fanning https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1102577
Mads Mikkelsen https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0586568
Ryan Gosling https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0331516
Nicolas Cage https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115
Heath Ledger https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005132

Tier 2 unranked (9-42 unranked)

Colin Farrell https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0268199
Joaquim Phoenix https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001618
Robert Pattinson https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1500155
Ethan Hawke https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000160
Leonardo DiCaprio https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000138
Jonah Hill https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1706767
Matthew McConaughey https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000190
Jake Gyllenhaal https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0350453
Song Kang-Ho https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0814280
Liam Neeson https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000553
Sam Louwyck https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0522205
Jeremy Irons https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000460
Johan Heldenbergh https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0374949
Miles Teller https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1886602
Viggo Mortensen https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001557
Vincent Cassel https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001993
Thomas Bo Larsen https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0488917
Odessa Young https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3747611
Florence Pugh https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6073955
Shailene Woodley https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0940362
Zendaya https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3918035
Michelle Williams https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0931329
Shu Qi https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0795517
Nana Komatsu https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5862455
Thomasin McKenzie https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5057169
Maika Monroe https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2140860
Kiko Mizuhara https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3460467
Sofia Boutella https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1154749
Kristen Stewart https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0829576
Alicia Vikander https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2539953
Haley Lu Richardson https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4726634
Jennifer Lawrence https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2225369
Andrea Riseborough https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2057859
Jena Malone https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0540441

Well this is my list. In two tiers, both unranked, but tier 1 ranked higher than tier 2. I've paid attention to equally represent both genders.
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Mysterious Dude wrote: July 27th, 2022, 4:12 am
I tried to make it boy-girl-boy-girl, but there were a couple I forgot about until after I'd started, and trying to rearrange an IMDB list with that kind of precision is too much for me.
I had the same idea, but I didn't want a girl to come between Laurel and Hardy.
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Participant list has been updated. I will close the poll sometime during the week. Until the poll is officially close, new ballot may be added, or the existing one may be edited. For the existing one, if any changes to the ranking status, just let me know on a new post.
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OK, I don't know that I'll play around with this anymore.

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567993181/

1-67 ranked
68-200 unranked second tier
201-450+ unranked third tier

I may add some more to the third tier up until the last minute.
Sum stats

Female: 172
Male: 279

Living: 170
Dead: 281
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Perception de Ambiguity wrote: July 30th, 2022, 10:16 pm
Gordon_Gekko wrote: July 29th, 2022, 1:55 pm unranked
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567612808/
How much do you hate the living? Say, on a scale from 1 to 1,000,000?
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I'm bad with actors/actresses and I'm not in the mood to do this anyway, for some 10 years now, but the thing is, I would be even unsure how. Going just by "guys I like from the top off my head" would be nonsense. How else would I lay foundations for a top list? How are others doing this?
Sure, I could browse some top lists of greatest performers online. There would be tons and tons of classic Hollywood actors (they like them b/w and DEAD). Those wouldn't be my personal favorites.
I could use sites like Criticker - or Letterboxd Premium, if I had that - and search for performers I've seen the most films with. That's one way to work with, although the top names would include a shit ton of current Hollywood mainstream names that are just there, lol.

What's the best way to do this as a first-timer?
(Don't bother tooo much with hints to provide help, it's more a tool for discussion. I most likely won't put up a list soon enough, sorry.)
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Torgo wrote: August 14th, 2022, 1:41 pm
I'm bad with actors/actresses and I'm not in the mood to do this anyway, for some 10 years now, but the thing is, I would be even unsure how. Going just by "guys I like from the top off my head" would be nonsense. How else would I lay foundations for a top list? How are others doing this?
Sure, I could browse some top lists of greatest performers online. There would be tons and tons of classic Hollywood actors (they like them b/w and DEAD). Those wouldn't be my personal favorites.
I could use sites like Criticker - or Letterboxd Premium, if I had that - and search for performers I've seen the most films with. That's one way to work with, although the top names would include a shit ton of current Hollywood mainstream names that are just there, lol.

What's the best way to do this as a first-timer?
(Don't bother tooo much with hints to provide help, it's more a tool for discussion. I most likely won't put up a list soon enough, sorry.)
I guess this is hard for a lot of people, or a lot of people just aren't interested, as the turnout seems pretty weak to me.

Speaking for myself, I think about actors in two basic categories -

1) which actors have given GREAT performances, or even multiple great performances?
2) which actors do I like seeing on screen? Personality, presence... that indefinable star quality?

Some people fit into both categories, and those I've ranked highest fit very strongly in one and reasonably well in the other, if not equally in both. I have lots of tough-guy actors on my list - Scott, Wayne, Bronson, Marvin, etc. All of these guys have given at least one or two really good performances, but that's not the main reason they're on the list; and conversely Meryl Streep and Daniel Day-Lewis aren't there primarily for their screen presence. Balancing the two is difficult but I guess I've cared enough about acting and followed enough actors for long enough that I can do it with a few of them at least.

As to where to start, I dunno - I started making a list maybe 10 years ago, never got very far on it, but did put a little bit into it when this poll was first announced, so by a month ago I had a fair bit of the work done. I suppose I just start mentally by asking myself questions like, whose filmographies would I like to complete? Who do I return to most often? Whose unseen films most interest me? Etc, etc. That gives me a decent list but filling in the character actors and supporting parts took a while. One helpful thing that worked for me personally was to look at some of my favorite films with big casts and just sort of go down the list. It's a Wonderful Life for example has 8 people that made my list and 2-3 more that are contenders. And with living actors it's even easier in some ways - which names make you think, oh I can't wait for that?

But I think ultimately you have to pay attention to actors to want to put in any effort into making this list; a lot of people here don't, which is too bad IMO but them's the breaks. This ain't the old IMDb classics board.
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I wasn't originally planning to submit a list for this poll. Whenever somebody finds out that I am into cinema and acts who my favourite actor or actress is, I stumble. I don't have a definitive answer. There were a few names that I floated around back in the day, but it's a terribly hard to thing to really judge. Still, I decided to give it a go, so here's my feeble attempt to put a list together, highlighting the actors and actresses who I most enjoy seeing on screen:

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls567801762/

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