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iCM Forum's Favorite Contemporary Black & White Movies; Results

500<400, Favourite 1001 movies, Doubling the Canon, Film World Cup and many other votes
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iCM Forum's Favorite Contemporary Black & White Movies; Results

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ICM Forum's Favorite Contemporary Black&White Movies
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Although almost since the birth of film there have been various color(ized ) movies for the first few decades black and white* was the dominant use. After the 1930s the use of color started to rise until it became the standard in the mid 60s. But even after that filmmakers still continued to make films in black & white, mostly for artistic reason. In this poll we chose our favorite contemporary black and white (b&w) movies.
*Yes smarty pants among us ;), black and white are also colors but for convenience sake in common language there is a distinction between color and black & white movies

B&W movies are movies that are primarily shot in b&w; a movie that has a little intro and/or outro in color but for most part is in b&w should count, in contrary one flashback in b&w doesn't a b&w movie make. There weren't exact rules for what primarily entails, this was up to each voters own judgement. In discussions before the general division between "normal/old" and contemporary b&w movies was set around 1968, because around that time color really became the standard world-wide. There wasn't a strict cut-off year either, but this was also up to the voters discretion. To sum up contemporary black and white movies are primarily shot in b&w and made after +/- 1968.

Please feel free to discuss the list, the films, and any entries that you're happy (or unhappy) about, whether you submitted a list or not, but please try to be courteous when doing so. Due to the nature of the list there are many people who dislike entries, so just saying you dislike a movie or don't understand other people voting for it doesn't really add anything meaningful. Contrary it could be nice to hear from people who didn't vote for a movie but still liked it anyhow. When quoting a post with images it's best if you remove the image unless it's directly relevant to what you're posting.

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#100 Electric Dragon 80.000 V (Gakuryû Ishii , 2001) 202.52 points
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Onderhond (#7)
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Thanks, Lonewolf. I'm looking forward to these results.
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: May 9th, 2022, 3:30 pm #100 Electric Dragon 80.000 V (Gakuryû Ishii , 2001) 202.52 points
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No!!!

We need a list of everybody's #1 that didn't make the cut first!!!!!! :folded:
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#99 A Field in England (Ben Wheatley, 2013) 203.52 points
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filmbantha (#42)
Lonewolf2003 (unranked)
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: May 9th, 2022, 3:45 pm #99 A Field in England (Ben Wheatley, 2013) 203.52 points
1367 checks, official lists: 1
Seriously:

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I mean, I guess it doesn't hurt that much if you pause the countdown midway through to reveal everybody's #1 that didn't make the cut, but it is far preferable to have this info at the start of the countdown in my opinion.

Also, pretty disappointed that we are only getting a mere top 100 out of this. I appreciate the effort it takes into compiling all this, but between our #1s not being highlighted and the very short list, this is a bit of an underwhelming start I'm sorry to say. :(
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sol wrote: May 9th, 2022, 3:34 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote: May 9th, 2022, 3:30 pm #100 Electric Dragon 80.000 V (Gakuryû Ishii , 2001) 202.52 points
282 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
No!!!

We need a list of everybody's #1 that didn't make the cut first!!!!!! :folded:
Sorry forgot about that :sweat: :$

Here you are:
Caracortada (#1)
#178 The Elephant Man (Jack Hofsiss, 1982) 100 points
54 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
1 voters
Caracortada (#1)
peeptoad (#1):
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#151 Fando y Lis [Fando and Lis] (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1968) 130.35 points
618 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
matthewscott8 (#44)
peeptoad (#1)

Lakigigar (#1)
#140 Les garçons sauvages [The Wild Boys] (Bertrand Mandico, 2017) 138.96 points
238 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
Lakigigar (#1)
sol (#35)
sol (#1)
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#137 Dr. Plonk (Rolf de Heer, 2007) 141.18 points
75 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
sol (#1)
zzzorf (#33)

Perception de Ambiguity (#1)
#128 Peur(s) du noir [Fear(s) of the Dark] (Charles Burns, Richard McGuire, Marie Caillou, Blutch, Pierre Di Sciullo, Lorenzo Mattotti, 2007) 155.86 points
307 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
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peeptoad (#22)
Perception de Ambiguity (#1)
Melvelet (#1)
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#125 Kôshikei [Death by Hanging] (Nagisa Ôshima, 1968) 157.63 points
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filmbantha (#49)
lineuphere (#43)
Melvelet (#1)
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#98 The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 2021) 210.1 points
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hurluberlu (unranked>42)
matthewscott8 (#3)
Melvelet (unranked>30)
pitn (#36)
Rufus-T (#34)
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: May 9th, 2022, 3:53 pm
sol wrote: May 9th, 2022, 3:34 pm We need a list of everybody's #1 that didn't make the cut first!!!!!! :folded:
Sorry forgot about that :sweat: :$

Here you are:

Caracortada (#1)
#178 The Elephant Man (Jack Hofsiss, 1982) 100 points
54 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
1 voters
Caracortada (#1)
Lakigigar (#1)
#140 Les garçons sauvages [The Wild Boys] (Bertrand Mandico, 2017) 138.96 points
238 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
Lakigigar (#1)
sol (#35)
sol (#1)
#137 Dr. Plonk (Rolf de Heer, 2007) 141.18 points
75 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
sol (#1)
zzzorf (#33)
Thanks. :thumbsup: I am glad to see that my #1 would have made the top 150 if we were adventurous enough to expand the list. It's one of those films you can't help but love if you are a fan of silent comedies - which I realise many users here aren't, but still. :unsure:

Re: Laki's #1, it's a great film, and I supported it, but I wonder if the purists left it off their list because it's around 10% colour / 90% b&w.

Re: Caracortada's #1, I'd love to know if that's a vote for the right version or an error. :mellow:
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sol wrote: May 9th, 2022, 3:49 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote: May 9th, 2022, 3:45 pm #99 A Field in England (Ben Wheatley, 2013) 203.52 points
1367 checks, official lists: 1
Seriously:

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I mean, I guess it doesn't hurt that much if you pause the countdown midway through to reveal everybody's #1 that didn't make the cut, but it is far preferable to have this info at the start of the countdown in my opinion.

Also, pretty disappointed that we are only getting a mere top 100 out of this. I appreciate the effort it takes into compiling all this, but between our #1s not being highlighted and the very short list, this is a bit of an underwhelming start I'm sorry to say. :(
It's on autopost, so didn't see your reply before just now. You're lucky I just checked if the posting was working correctly.

I do what I can with what's given to me. You had one of the longest lists, most lists were very short. Average list length was 49.5. Half of the lists were shorter than 40.
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: May 9th, 2022, 4:06 pm I do what I can with what's given to me. You had one of the longest lists, most lists were very short. Average list length was 49.5. Half of the lists were shorter than 40.
Yikes. That's really :blink: to me. Would love to know if that's due to folks not having seen a lot of contemporary black and white films or simply not liking what they have seen. There is certainly no shortage of readily available films out there that meet the guidelines for this poll. :huh: Especially with the very flexible start date as many countries were still regularly filming in black and white in the late 60s, so tons of '69 and '68 stuff eligible. :mellow:
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#97 Rengoku eroica [Heroic Purgatory] (Yoshishige Yoshida, 1970) 212.24 points
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beavis (#2)
Caracortada (#9)
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sol wrote: May 9th, 2022, 4:12 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote: May 9th, 2022, 4:06 pm I do what I can with what's given to me. You had one of the longest lists, most lists were very short. Average list length was 49.5. Half of the lists were shorter than 40.
Yikes. That's really :blink: to me. Would love to know if that's due to folks not having seen a lot of contemporary black and white films or simply not liking what they have seen. There is certainly no shortage of readily available films out there that meet the guidelines for this poll. :huh: Especially with the very flexible start date as many countries were still regularly filming in black and white in the late 60s, so tons of '69 and '68 stuff eligible. :mellow:
Personally that some countries were still filming regularly in black and white in the late 60s is the reason why I didn't add movies from f.e. Japan from the 60s to my list.
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#96 Údolí vcel [Valley of the Bees] (Frantisek Vlácil, 1968) 214.94 points
345 checks, official lists: 3 :imdb:
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Gordon_Gekko (#20)
hurluberlu (#41)
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matthewscott8 (#38)
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#95 Korczak (Andrzej Wajda, 1990) 215.03 points
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3eyes (unranked)
blocho (unranked)
hurluberlu (unranked>42)
Mysterious Dude (#74)
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#94 Risttuules [In the Crosswind] (Martti Helde, 2014) 219.28 points
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blocho (unranked)
Melvelet (unranked>30)
sol (#66)
Y U M E (#11)
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#93 The Saddest Music in the World (Guy Maddin, 2003) 219.7 points
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gromit82 (#16)
lineuphere (#100)
Panunzio (#28)
TraverseTown (#1)
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#92 Control (Anton Corbijn, 2007) 219.92 points
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filmbantha (#50)
hurluberlu (#15)
Lonewolf2003 (unranked)
Panunzio (#30)
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#91 Erosu purasu gyakusatsu [Eros + Massacre] (Yoshishige Yoshida, 1969) 221.3 points
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hurluberlu (#1)
Mysterious Dude (#86)
TraverseTown (#78)
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#90 Ganh xiec rong [Travelling Circus] (Linh Viet, 1988) 223.21 points
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filmbantha (#43)
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#89 Shura [Demons] (Toshio Matsumoto, 1971) 227.78 points
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#88 Az én XX. századom [My 20th Century] (Ildikó Enyedi, 1989) 229.69 points
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#87 November (Rainer Sarnet, 2017) 231.27 points
432 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
6 voters
beavis (#48)
hurluberlu (unranked>42)
Lakigigar (#9)
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#86 L'homme qui ment [The Man Who Lies] (Alain Robbe-Grillet, 1968) 231.61 points
205 checks, official lists: 2 :imdb:
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hurluberlu (#34)
lineuphere (#27)
matthewscott8 (#6)
Melvelet (#22)
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#85 Zamri, umri, voskresni! [Freeze Die Come to Life] (Vitali Kanevsky, 1990) 232.06 points
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#84 Polytechnique (Denis Villeneuve, 2009) 232.17 points
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Gordon_Gekko (#9)
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#83 La commune (Paris, 1871) (Peter Watkins, 2000) 236.02 points
375 checks, official lists: 5 :imdb:
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#82 Europa [Zentropa] (Lars von Trier, 1991) 240.14 points
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#81 Kuroi ame [Black Rain] (Shôhei Imamura, 1989) 240.69 points
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Gordon_Gekko (#7)
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La Commune definitely nailed the look of early cinema judging from that screenshot. I thought somehow participants got confused and submitted a film from the 1800s at first glance (and the subtitle didn’t help!)
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#80 Le dernier combat [The Last Combat] (Luc Besson, 1983) 244.55 points
703 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
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#79 Na wylot [Through and Through] (Grzegorz Królikiewicz , 1973) 247.94 points
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RogerTheMovieManiac88 (#1)
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#78 Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett, 1978) 253.84 points
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#77 The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra (Larry Blamire, 2001) 258.47 points
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mightysparks (#5)
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#76 Mujô [This Transient Life] (Akio Jissôji, 1970) 259.5 points
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#75 Tsuitô no zawameki [Noisy Requiem] (Yoshihiko Matsui, 1988) 259.7 points
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#74 The Heart of the World (Guy Maddin, 2000) 262.06 points
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gromit82 (#24)
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#73 The Addiction (Abel Ferrara, 1995) 263.43 points
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Lonewolf2003 (unranked)
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