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Country Poll: Ireland [RESULTS]

500<400, Favourite 1001 movies, Doubling the Canon, Film World Cup and many other votes
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Country Poll: Ireland [RESULTS]

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There were 135 films voted by 34 participants.

Below are all the films that received at least 25 points.

Rank Title [AKA] Year Director Points Ballots Best IMDb Votes iCM Checks Toplists
1 In the Name of the Father 1993 Jim Sheridan 217 22 1 :imdb: 171,294 :ICM: 13,523 6
2 Song of the Sea 2014 Tomm Moore 146 17 1 :imdb: 57,327 :ICM: 4,549 5
3 The Wind that Shakes the Barley 2006 Ken Loach 131.5 12 1 :imdb: 49,884 :ICM: 4,555 2
4 Room 2015 Lenny Abrahamson 115.5 15 1 :imdb: 408,429 :ICM: 14,376 6
5 Sing Street 2016 John Carney 113 13 2 :imdb: 92,147 :ICM: 4,345 3
6 The Commitments 1991 Alan Parker 110 12 1 :imdb: 35,210 :ICM: 4,215 2
6 Calvary 2014 John Michael McDonagh 110 12 1 :imdb: 58,844 :ICM: 3,155 1
8 Once 2007 John Carney 108.5 14 1 :imdb: 115,646 :ICM: 16,004 3
9 My Left Foot: The Story of Christy Brown 1989 Jim Sheridan 105 13 3 :imdb: 73,334 :ICM: 8,111 6
10 The Lobster 2015 Yorgos Lanthimos 93 16 1 :imdb: 247,697 :ICM: 10,399 5
11 The Field 1990 Jim Sheridan 89 8 1 :imdb: 6,110 :ICM: 282 1
12 The Secret of Kells 2009 Tomm Moore 78 10 3 :imdb: 35,037 :ICM: 4,027 1
13 The Guard 2011 John Michael McDonagh 72 11 3 :imdb: 85,852 :ICM: 4,795 0
14 WolfWalkers 2020 Tomm Moore, Ross Stewart 63 8 2 :imdb: 30,313 :ICM: 1,020 1
15 The Killing of a Sacred Deer 2017 Yorgos Lanthimos 60.5 11 2 :imdb: 147,595 :ICM: 4,060 0
16 Dating Amber 2020 David Freyne 49 4 1 :imdb: 5,875 :ICM: 130 0
17 A Dark Song 2016 Liam Gavin 46 6 2 :imdb: 17,287 :ICM: 467 0
18 Return to Glennascaul 1953 Hilton Edwards 44 4 2 :imdb: 735 :ICM: 106 0
18 Intermission 2003 John Crowley 44 5 5 :imdb: 15,812 :ICM: 724 1
20 In America 2002 Jim Sheridan 42 5 3 :imdb: 42,935 :ICM: 3,424 1
21 Veronica Guerin 2003 Joel Schumacher 39 4 3 :imdb: 20,313 :ICM: 749 0
22 I Am Not a Serial Killer 2016 Billy O'Brien 35 5 3 :imdb: 14,609 :ICM: 515 0
23 Stitches 2012 Conor McMahon 32 3 2 :imdb: 9,584 :ICM: 379 0
24 Extra Ordinary 2019 Enda Loughman, Mike Ahern 31 3 3 :imdb: 9,981 :ICM: 299 0
24 Vivarium 2019 Lorcan Finnegan 31 4 6 :imdb: 54,668 :ICM: 960 0
26 Byzantium 2012 Neil Jordan 30.5 5 5 :imdb: 43,462 :ICM: 1,714 0
27 Michael Collins 1996 Neil Jordan 30 4 6 :imdb: 31,364 :ICM: 2,214 1
27 What Richard Did 2012 Lenny Abrahamson 30 2 4 :imdb: 5,095 :ICM: 292 0
29 The Butcher Boy 1997 Neil Jordan 29 4 5 :imdb: 10,935 :ICM: 1,275 4
30 The General 1998 John Boorman 27.5 4 6 :imdb: 8,708 :ICM: 691 1
31 Love & Friendship 2016 Whit Stillman 27 4 3 :imdb: 24,711 :ICM: 1,638 1
31 Citadel 2012 Ciarán Foy 27 4 1 :imdb: 7,039 :ICM: 324 0
33 Triage 2009 Danis Tanovic 26 2 2 :imdb: 10,307 :ICM: 302 0

Runners-up (20+ points or 3+ votes)
Rank Title [AKA] Year Director Points Ballots Highest Ranking IMDb Votes iCM Checks Toplists
34 Omagh 2004 Pete Travis 24 2 4 :imdb: 1,660 :ICM: 90 0
35 The Boxer 1997 Jim Sheridan 23.5 3 1 :imdb: 20,656 :ICM: 924 0
36 The Breadwinner 2017 Nora Twomey 21 4 5 :imdb: 24,814 :ICM: 1,237 0
37 Bernadette: Notes on a Political Journey 2011 Lelia Doolan 20 1 1 :imdb: 22 :ICM: 2 0
37 Shake Hands with the Devil 1959 Michael Anderson 20 2 1 :imdb: 1,314 :ICM: 52 0
37 A Date for Mad Mary 2016 Darren Thornton 20 2 6 :imdb: 2,118 :ICM: 70 0
37 Inside I'm Dancing [Rory O'Shea Was Here] 2004 Damien O'Donnell 20 2 1 :imdb: 15,146 :ICM: 806 0
41 Ondine 2009 Neil Jordan 19.5 5 6 :imdb: 21,264 :ICM: 1,132 0
41 Breakfast on Pluto 2005 Neil Jordan 19.5 2 7 :imdb: 22,310 :ICM: 1,839 0
43 Isolation 2005 Billy O'Brien 19 4 7 :imdb: 7,291 :ICM: 274 0
53 Zardoz 1974 John Boorman 16.5 5 8 :imdb: 22,426 :ICM: 2,134 5
54 Jimmy's Hall 2014 Ken Loach 16 3 1 :imdb: 6,419 :ICM: 360 0
59 The Canal 2014 Ivan Kavanagh 14 3 6 :imdb: 14,117 :ICM: 439 0
67 Six Shooter 2004 Martin McDonagh 12 3 7 :imdb: 12,296 :ICM: 942 0
Films that received 1st place votes
5 - The Lobster - joachimt, Leopardi, Melvelet, TraverseTown, zomgmouse
4 - The Wind that Shakes the Barley - 3eyes, blocho, ororama, peeptoad
3 - In the Name of the Father - AB537, Gordon_Gekko, Panunzio
3 - Once - filmbantha, gunnar, outdoorcats
2 - Song of the Sea - Lakigigar, Mysterious Dude
2 - Room - Rufus-T, Teproc
2 - The Field - DudeLanez, Mario Gaborović
1 - Calvary - Silga
1 - The Commitments - Talking Elvish
1 - Dating Amber - Fergenaprido
1 - Citadel - sol
1 - The Boxer - beavis
1 - Bernadette: Notes on a Political Journey - RogerTheMovieManiac88
1 - Inside I'm Dancing - gromit82
1 - The Daisy Chain - zzzorf
1 - Jimmy's Hall - Caracortada
1 - BlinkyTM - mightysparks
3 - unranked - Angel Glez, cayado-coro, insomnius

Directors with multiple films in the Top 33
4 Jim Sheridan
3 Neil Jordan
3 Tomm Moore
2 John Carney
2 John Michael McDonagh
2 Lenny Abrahamson
2 Yorgos Lanthimos

Breakdown by Decade
1890s
1900s
1910s
1920s
1930s
1940s
1950s 1
1960s
1970s
1980s 1
1990s 6
2000s 7
2010s 16
2020s 2
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Here are the results as an icm list: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+ ... genaprido/
Here is the master list with the top 20 from each poll: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+ ... genaprido/

Comparison with The Irish Times' Best 50 Irish Movies
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Rank Title [AKA] Year Country Poll Ranking Notes
1 Barry Lyndon 1975 #N/A British
2 The Dead 1987 #N/A British
3 Anne Devlin 1984 #N/A
4 Man of Aran 1934 #N/A British
5 Hunger 2008 #N/A British
6 The Crying Game 1992 #N/A British
7 The Quiet Man 1952 #N/A American
8 Adam & Paul 2004 #N/A
9 The Wind that Shakes the Barley 2006 3
10 My Left Foot: The Story of Christy Brown 1989 9
11 The Lobster 2015 10
12 Brooklyn 2015 #N/A British
13 Mise …ire 1959 #N/A
14 Song of Granite 2017 128
15 The Fading Light 2009 #N/A
16 Once 2007 8
17 The Magdalene Sisters 2002 #N/A British
18 Silence 2012 #N/A
19 Good Vibrations 2012 #N/A British
20 The Farthest 2017 #N/A
21 Rocky Road to Dublin 1968 #N/A
22 Odd Man Out 1947 #N/A British
23 The Butcher Boy 1997 29
24 His & Hers 2009 #N/A
25 The Killing of a Sacred Deer 2017 15
26 The Image You Missed 2018 #N/A
27 Garage 2007 91
28 Bloody Sunday 2002 #N/A British
29 December Bride 1991 91
30 The Secret of Kells 2009 12
31 Gaza 2019 #N/A
32 Chavez: Inside the Coup The Revolution Will Not Be Televised 2003 105
33 Waveriders 2008 #N/A
34 The General 1998 30
35 Flight of the Doves 1971 #N/A British
36 The Commitments 1991 6
37 In America 2002 20
38 Silent Grace 2001 #N/A
39 Maudie 2016 #N/A Canadian
40 Shadow Dancer 2012 #N/A British
41 The Secret of Roan Inish 1994 #N/A American
42 Hush-a-Bye Baby 1990 #N/A British
43 Kings 2007 #N/A British
44 Saviours 2007 #N/A
45 Good Favour 2017 #N/A
46 Kisses 2008 120
47 Snap 2010 #N/A
48 Intermission 2003 18
49 Cardboard Gangsters 2017 #N/A
50 Korea 1995 #N/A
Comparison with Irish Film & Television Academy Best Film Winners (icm list is missing the most recent winner)
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Rank Title [AKA] Year Country Poll Ranking Notes
1 The General 1998 30
2 Angela's Ashes 1999 #N/A American
3 Intermission 2003 18
4 Omagh 2004 34
5 Pavee Lackeen: The Traveller Girl 2005 #N/A
6 The Wind that Shakes the Barley 2006 3
7 Garage 2007 91
8 Hunger 2008 #N/A British
9 The Eclipse 2009 128
10 As If I Am Not There 2010 #N/A
11 The Guard 2011 13
12 What Richard Did 2012 27
13 Calvary 2014 6
14 Song of the Sea 2014 2
15 Room 2015 4
16 A Date for Mad Mary 2016 37
17 Michael Inside 2017 #N/A
18 Black '47 2018 91
19 Ordinary Love 2019 #N/A British
20 WolfWalkers 2020 14
21 An Cailín Ciúin The Quiet Girl 2021 #N/A
The Host's Hot Take
Our first smaller film country, I think we still managed to put together a decent-sized list, even if many will consider it predictable. Irish film didn't really take off until the 1980s, and it seems that forumgoers only really took notice of films form 1989 onwards, with the exception of one short and one runner-up from the 1950s. We didn't care much for the films chosen by the Irish Times, but there's a significant overlap with the Award winners list. Co-productions disqualified a number of contenders, as predicted, but overall I'm satisfied with the list. Even with many participants only submitting the minimum number of films (5), we still had almost the same number of films make the final list (33) as there were participants (34), which bodes well for future smaller countries as long as the participation keeps up. We lost about 20 voters from the previous major countries, though, so it will be interesting to see how good retention is in the future.

Hopefully, this got people to seek out more Irish films and appreciate what this smallish country has to offer. And for those who didn't feel they had seen enough to participate, may this list guide you in your journey. :)

Next up: Germany, and then New Zealand.
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Most of my selections ended up in the top 20 so that's good. I should have looked at the other ballots more carefully, though, since I see two other films which I would have included on my list had I realized that they were Irish - The Field and In America.
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Fergenaprido: Thanks for running the poll. I will definitely be voting in the Germany poll, albeit with a short ballot.
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Thanks, Fergenaprido... I am really looking forward to the Germany poll (I've got at least two 10/10 films for that list) :thumbsup:
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Wow so we actually disqualified 6 out of the 7 best Irish movies according to an Irish newspaper for not being Irish enough :lol:
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Melvelet wrote: May 5th, 2022, 12:54 pm Wow so we actually disqualified 6 out of the 7 best Irish movies according to an Irish newspaper for not being Irish enough :lol:
:lol:

One of the reasons I didn't participate in this one, though the main reason was that I've seen no more than 30 Irish films even by a liberal definition, and my few favorites are all the same ones that showed up near the top anyway - I wouldn't have been adding anything at all to this. Still, below the top 10 there are some films I haven't heard of that look potentially interesting, and that's really the main thing I get out of these lists in the first place.
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Melvelet wrote: May 5th, 2022, 12:54 pm Wow so we actually disqualified 6 out of the 7 best Irish movies according to an Irish newspaper for not being Irish enough :lol:
Yes, I did. :lol: :sweat:

But, to be fair, they admit to having pretty flimsy rules as to what constitutes being Irish enough; the full intro is included in the icm list, including "Our rules are looser than some may prefer." Plus, it seems they included all of the island of Ireland in their list, not just the Republic of Ireland, so films from Northern Ireland feature there but not here.

From the top of their list, though, I guess I'm most surprised that Adam & Paul (2004) didn't get a single vote here: It's from the 1989-2022 time period that most films voted for were in, from a notable director (Lenny Abrahamson, whose films Room and What Richard Did made the main list, and Frank was close with 2 votes and 17 points), and it's an official check on the TSPDT 21st Century list. Haven't seen it myself, but I plan to see more of his films (just saw WRD right before the poll closed, and it just missed the end of my ballot).
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Thank you for the results, Ferg!

I've only seen 18/33, so several well-known ones still for me to catch up with!

I'm glad to see an early short film in the results in the shape of 'Return to Glennascaul'. That was one avenue where Irish film-makers focused their efforts in the 40s, 50s and 60s, before there was much of an indigenous feature film-making industry.

Slightly disappointing that there isn't a film from Bob Quinn on the list. His efforts from the 1970s on in founding CineGael in Connemara really make him the godfather of a non-State-run cinematic presence in Ireland. 'Poitín' is probably his most famous film, but I haven't seen it yet. People like Joe Comerford and Cathal Black are part of that First Wave of film-makers that came through at around the same time. Their works are hugely undervalued and underseen even here in Ireland, so it's not a huge surprise that they don't have a presence in these results.

Of the Carney musicals, I'm slightly surprised that 'Sing Street' places above 'Once'. I expected the latter to be in the top 5 here.

Fun to take part in this one, especially since it's my own country in focus.

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Apparently I've seen more Irish films than I thought, 18/33 on the final list, including all of the top 10, as well as a bunch of co-productions that were ruled UK for the purposes of this exercise. Pretty happy with my ballot of 8 films, though in retrospect Sing Street probably should have been on my list too.
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Seen 5 out of 33 films, which is 15,15%. That's a higher percentage than the Australian list, and actually not much lower than UK/France which are in the 18-20% territory. But given the lower amount of films, that might also be misleading, also given that it might be easier for an Irish film to get into the Irish list than for a French one to get in the French list obviously.

And also i voted for all 5, but i don't think theey even needed my help. The eventual ranking might have mattered but to get in the top 33 i don't think they even needed my help, they would have made it anyways. The films i've seen & voted for are already more known (& acclaimed) ones in general.
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