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Year-by-Year Polls: 2002 (Results)

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Year-by-Year Polls: 2002 (Results)

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These are the results for the 2002 poll.

Total number of voters: 51
Total number of films receiving votes: 296

Thank you to these 51 participants: AB537, Angel Glez, beavis, blocho, Caracortada, cayado-coro, cinewest, Fergenaprido, filmbantha, Good_Will_Harding, Gordon_Gekko, gromit82, GruesomeTwosome, gunnar, hurluberlu, Insomnius, jeff_v, joachimt, klaus78, Lakigigar, Leopardi, lineuphere, Lonewolf2003, matthewscott8, Melvelet, Minkin, MoTH, murnaunosferatu, Mysterious Dude, OldAle1, Onderhond, Opio, ororama, peeptoad, rnilsson19, RogerTheMovieManiac88, Rufus-T, Silga, Smoover, sol, St. Gloede, TalkingElvish, Teproc, timshelboy, Torgo, Traveller, TraverseTown, twodeadmagpies, Y U M E, zomgmouse, zzzorf

Films with the minimum of 2 votes or ranked as #1 are listed.

Tie breaker is # of mentions followed by the film with higher ranking and then by number of IMDb votes

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Here is the list:

* = short film

ICM FORUM'S FAVORITE FILMS FROM 2002

RANK FILM (2012 POLL RANKING) AKA DIRECTOR(S) POINTS MENTIONS IMDb VOTES POSTER(S) WHO RANKED #1 LINK
1 Cidade de Deus (2) City of God Katia Lund, Fernando Meirelles 378,5 27 740141 AB537, Gordon_Gekko, gunnar, Lakigigar, Mysterious Dude, peeptoad :imdb:
2 Punch-Drunk Love (5) Paul Thomas Anderson 261 22 161665 GruesomeTwosome, jeff_v :imdb:
3 Adaptation. (4) Spike Jonze 258 20 190035 :imdb:
4 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (7) Peter Jackson 256 19 1602392 Smoover :imdb:
5 The Pianist (1) Roman Polanski 252 19 803577 joachimt, Leopardi :imdb:
6 Hable con ella (6) Talk to Her Pedro Almodovar 247 22 111282 Caracortada :imdb:
7 Irréversible (39) Irreversible Gaspar Noé 244 18 131602 Melvelet, Traveller :imdb:
8 25th Hour (14) Spike Lee 197,5 15 177205 Good_Will_Harding :imdb:
9 Ying xiong (12) Hero Yimou Zhang 188 17 179970 Lonewolf2003, Rufus-T, Torgo :imdb:
10 Mou gaan dou (36) Infernal Affairs Alan Mak, Andrew Lau 163 16 123402 ororama :imdb:
11 Russkiy kovcheg (8) Russian Ark Aleksandr Sokurov 158 13 20326 cinewest, lineuphere :imdb:
12 Far from Heaven (3) Todd Haynes 153 14 46322 :imdb:
13 Al primo soffio di vento (49) At the First Breath of Wind Franco Piavoli 151 10 303 OldAle1 :imdb:
14 Lilja 4-ever (22) Lilya 4-Ever Lukas Moodysson 145,5 15 45223 hurluberlu :imdb:
15 Bowling for Columbine (21) Michael Moore 140 14 143693 Silga :imdb:
16 Tiexi qu Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks Bing Wang 135 10 1157 insomnius, MoTH, murnaunosferatu :imdb:
17 Minority Report (13) Steven Spielberg 130,5 13 539385 :imdb:
18 Uzak (25) Distant Nuri Bilge Ceylan 127,5 12 20802 :imdb:
19 Catch Me If You Can (19) Steven Spielberg 122 15 936522 :imdb:
20 Oasiseu (40) Oasis Lee Chang-dong 117 11 9260 :imdb:
21 28 Days Later… (58) Danny Boyle 110,5 14 403900 :imdb:
22 Vendredi soir (38) Friday Night Claire Denis 106 10 1985 :imdb:
23 Le fils (9) The Son Luc Dardenne, Jean-Pierre Dardenne 104,5 9 9514 :imdb:
24 Chicago (11) Rob Marshall 104 6 227361 timshelboy :imdb:
25 Sud sanaeha (47) Blissfully Yours Apichatpong Weerasethakul 103 8 2485 klaus78 :imdb:
26 Tasogare Seibei (24) The Twilight Samurai Yôji Yamada 102,5 11 23692 :imdb:
27 Mies vailla menneisyyttä (34) The Man Without a Past Aki Kaurismäki 101,5 12 23368 Opio :imdb:
28 Dolls (32) Takeshi Kitano 94 8 16548 Onderhond :imdb:
29 Dah (54) Ten Abbas Kiarostami 93 11 7850 :imdb:
30 The Quiet American (56) Phillip Noyce 91 8 28253 :imdb:
31 Road to Perdition (19) Sam Mendes 88 7 263146 :imdb:
32 Femme Fatale (27) Brian De Palma 86 7 35606 :imdb:
33 Bloody Sunday (44) Paul Greengrass 84,5 10 24617 :imdb:
34 The Bourne Identity (33) Doug Liman 78 8 537632 :imdb:
35 All or Nothing (30) Mike Leigh 72 10 10678 :imdb:
36 Morvern Callar (62) Lynne Ramsay 66 5 10132 :imdb:
37 Spider (23) David Cronenberg 66 5 38515 :imdb:
38 About Schmidt (16) Alexander Payne 63 9 127983 gromit82, RogerTheMovieManiac88 :imdb:
39 Gangs of New York (17) Martin Scorsese 63 9 433186 :imdb:
40 Xiao cheng zhi chun Springtime in a Small Town Zhuangzhuang Tian 61,5 5 1317 rnilsson19 :imdb:
41 Boksuneun naui geot (61) Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance Park Chan-wook 61 7 67864 :imdb:
42 Frida (71) Julie Taymor 61 6 88756 :imdb:
43 Rabbits * (94) David Lynch 59 6 7661 :imdb:
44 Être et avoir To Be and to Have Nicolas Philibert 58 7 8087 :imdb:
45 Demonlover (83) Olivier Assayas 57 7 5446 :imdb:
46 La vie nouvelle (84) A New Life Philippe Grandrieux 54 4 1034 beavis :imdb:
47 Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (73) George Clooney 53 6 87739 :imdb:
48 O Princípio da Incerteza The Uncertainty Principle Manoel de Oliveira 52 4 402 :imdb:
49 Panic Room (55) David Fincher 51 7 275839 :imdb:
50 Dog Soldiers (64) Neil Marshall 51 4 59285 :imdb:
51 Dirty Pretty Things (69) Stephen Frears 49,5 6 42260 :imdb:
52 *Corpus Callosum Michael Snow 48 3 217 :imdb:
53 Heremakono (48) Waiting for Happiness Abderrahmane Sissako 46 6 1022 :imdb:
54 24 Hour Party People (35) Michael Winterbottom 46 4 37013 :imdb:
55 Ônibus 174 (79) Bus 174 José Padilha, Felipe Lacerda 45 4 8229 :imdb:
56 8 femmes (31) 8 Women François Ozon 44 6 32127 :imdb:
57 Cremaster 3 Matthew Barney 44 4 1447 :imdb:
58 Sogobi James Benning 44 3 128 matthewscott8 :imdb:
59 Mizu no onna Woman of Water Hidenori Sugimori 44 3 311 :imdb:
60 Neko no ongaeshi The Cat Returns Hiroyuki Morita 43 5 55216 Minkin :imdb:
61 L'ora di religione (Il sorriso di mia madre) Marco Bellocchio 42 4 1849 :imdb:
62 Honogurai mizu no soko kara (82) Dark Water Hideo Nakata 42 3 32139 TalkingElvish :imdb:
63 Insomnia (64) Christopher Nolan 41 3 290638 :imdb:
64 Gerry (18) Gus Van Sant 40 5 18715 :imdb:
65 The Hours (10) Stephen Daldry 40 5 130507 :imdb:
66 Kukushka (58) The Cuckoo Aleksandr Rogozhkin 39 3 7627 :imdb:
67 About a Boy (63) Paul Weitz, Chris Weitz 38 4 182401 :imdb:
68 Zhou Yu de huo che Zhou Yu's Train Zhou Sun 37 3 1535 :imdb:
69 The Ring (60) Gore Verbinski 36 3 341816 :imdb:
70 Respiro (96) Emanuele Crialese 36 3 4674 :imdb:
71 8 Mile Curtis Hanson 36 2 279366 :imdb:
72 In Order Not to Be Here * Deborah Stratman 35 3 105 :imdb:
73 Spider-Man (37) Sam Raimi 34 6 793333 :imdb:
74 Resident Evil Paul W.S. Anderson 34 3 265271 zzzorf :imdb:
75 Whale Rider (50) Niki Caro 33 4 42218 :imdb:
76 The Hedge Theater * (74) Robert Beavers 33 2 79 :imdb:
77 Dracula: Pages from a Virgin's Diary (51) Guy Maddin 32 6 2073 :imdb:
78 Bend It Like Beckham (52) Gurinder Chadha 32 3 109600 :imdb:
79 Reign of Fire Rob Bowman 30,5 2 134455 blocho :imdb:
80 Rokugatsu no hebi (44) A Snake of June Shin'ya Tsukamoto 30 5 4655 :imdb:
81 Mr. and Mrs. Iyer (94) Aparna Sen 30 4 4813 :imdb:
82 Decasia (76) Bill Morrison 30 3 973 :imdb:
83 Saenghwalui balgyeon On the Occasion of Remembering the Turning Gate Hong Sang-soo 30 2 1282 :imdb:
84 The Good Thief Neil Jordan 29 3 10488 :imdb:
85 Ju-on Ju-on: The Grudge Takashi Shimizu 29 2 44019 zomgmouse :imdb:
86 Akarui mirai Bright Future Kiyoshi Kurosawa 29 2 2813 :imdb:
87 Sweet Sixteen (29) Ken Loach 28 5 15135 :imdb:
88 Elsker dig for evigt Open Hearts Susanne Bier 28 3 10265 :imdb:
89 Chekhovskie motivy Chekhov's Motifs Kira Muratova 28 3 344 :imdb:
90 Japón (90) Japan Carlos Reygadas 28 2 3644 :imdb:
91 Lilo & Stitch Dean DeBlois, Chris Sanders 27 6 184593 :imdb:
92 Tokyo.Sora Hiroshi Ishikawa 27 3 469 :imdb:
93 Sunshine State John Sayles 26,5 2 4093 :imdb:
94 White Oleander (90) Peter Kosminsky 26 2 32249 :imdb:
95 Spellbound (74) Jeffrey Blitz 25 3 12231 :imdb:
96 Reflections of Evil Damon Packard 25 2 627 TraverseTown :imdb:
97 Peggy and Fred in Hell: The Complete Cycle Leslie Thornton 25 2 16 :imdb:
98 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (98) Chris Columbus 24 3 613791 :imdb:
99 Hukkle György Palfi 24 3 3701 :imdb:
100 Interstate 60: Episodes of the Road Bob Gale 23 3 32316 :imdb:
101 The Magdalene Sisters (15) Peter Mullan 22 5 27092 :imdb:
102 Choses secrètes Secret Things Jean-Claude Brisseau 21,5 2 4989 :imdb:
103 9/11 James Hanlon, Gédéon Naudet, Jules Naudet 21 2 8248 :imdb:
104 Cinemania (87) Angela Christlieb, Stephen Kijak 21 2 2302 :imdb:
105 La caja 507 Box 507 Enrique Urbizu 21 2 2582 :imdb:
106 Cavale One Lucas Belvaux 21 2 1194 :imdb:
107 Marie-Jo et ses 2 amours Marie-Jo and Her 2 Lovers Robert Guédiguian 21 2 798 :imdb:
108 At kende sandheden Facing the Truth Nils Malmros 21 2 766 :imdb:
109 Narc Joe Carnahan 20 2 40575 :imdb:
110 Marathon Amir Naderi 20 2 170 :imdb:
111 Astérix & Obélix: Mission Cléopâtre Asterix & Obelix: Mission Cleopatra Alain Chabat 20 1 52283 Teproc :imdb:
112 Bubba Ho-Tep Don Coscarelli 20 1 48142 filmbantha :imdb:
113 Moonlight Mile Brad Silberling 20 1 14107 Fergenaprido :imdb:
114 Sungnyangpali sonyeoui jaerim Resurrection of the Little Match Girl Sun-Woo Jang 20 1 1158 Y U M E :imdb:
115 Prevrashchenie Valeri Fokin 20 1 330 sol :imdb:
116 Kagami no onna-tachi Women in the Mirror Yoshishige Yoshida 20 1 235 St. Gloede :imdb:
117 Ren xiao yao (66) Unknown Pleasures Zhangke Jia 19 3 2403 :imdb:
118 In America (46) Jim Sheridan 17,5 3 42921 :imdb:
119 Solaris (81) Steven Soderbergh 17 4 82363 :imdb:
120 Chihwaseon Painted Fire Kwon-taek Im 17 3 2693 :imdb:
121 The Century of the Self 17 2 5798 :imdb:
122 Secretary (26) Steven Shainberg 16 4 90228 :imdb:
123 Possession Neil LaBute 16 2 13283 :imdb:
124 Paesaggi e figure * Franco Piavoli 16 2 30 :imdb:
125 S1m0ne Andrew Niccol 15 2 60508 :imdb:
126 Dzien swira Day of the Wacko Marek Koterski 15 2 10244 :imdb:
127 De Tweeling Twin Sisters Ben Sombogaart 15 2 6650 :imdb:
128 Dans ma peau In My Skin Marina de Van 14 2 5310 :imdb:
129 Lundi matin Monday Morning Otar Iosseliani 14 2 1052 :imdb:
130 Yadon ilaheyya Divine Intervention Elia Suleiman 13 2 3624 :imdb:
131 Lost in La Mancha Louis Pepe, Keith Fulton 11 2 11650 :imdb:


And the awards go to...

Oscars
4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
5. The Pianist
24. Chicago (Winner)
39. Gangs of New York
65. The Hours

Cannes
5. The Pianist

Venice
101. The Magdalene Sisters

Berlin
33. Bloody Sunday
Unranked - In This World (1 ballot, 14 points)

Sundance
Unranked - Personal Velocity: Three Portraits (1 ballot, 10 points)

Shorts
The following films under 45 minutes long made the main list:

43. Rabbits
71. In Order Not To Be Here
75. The Hedge Theater
124. Paesaggi e figure

Your mileage may vary
The following titles are well-known (over 100,000 votes) and reasonably well-liked (average rating of 7.0 or higher) by IMDb users, but they didn't make a big impression here:

Ice Age (over 400,000 votes, 1 ballot, 2 points)
Equilibrium (over 300,000 votes on IMDB, none here)
Red Dragon (over 250,000 votes, 1 ballot, 10 points)
Phone Booth (over 250,000 votes, 1 ballot, 6 points)
A Walk to Remember (over 200,000 votes, 1 ballot, 11 points)
We Were Soldiers (over 100,000 votes on IMDB, none here)
The Count of Monte Cristo (over 100,000 votes, 1 ballot, 11 points)
John Q (over 100,000 votes, 1 ballot, 14 points)
Treasure Planet (over 100,000 votes, 1 ballot, 7 points)

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Breakdown by primary nations

Number of countries: 27

# of films ____ Country
40 ___________ United States
17 ___________ France
16 ___________ United Kingdom
10 ___________ Japan
5 ____________ China, South Korea, Italy
4 ____________ Canada, Russia
2 ____________ Brazil, New Zealand, Mexico, Denmark, Spain, Germany
1 ____________ Hong Kong, Sweden, Turkey, Belgium, Thailand, Finland, Iran, India, Hungary, Ireland, Poland, Netherlands


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The next poll will be for 1953 followed by 2021.

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Some pretty big surprises here, Ten barely making the top 30 being the biggest one.

I decided last minute to squeeze in Cremaster 3 instead of City of God, which seems to have been a decent decision. It did not need any help, though those top positions are remarkably close when you look at the points. Especially 2-7, just 1 ballot could have changed that completely.

I am surprised I'm the only one voting for Women in the Mirror though. Thought there were a few more Yoshida fans here.
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St. Gloede wrote: May 1st, 2022, 8:50 pm I am surprised I'm the only one voting for Women in the Mirror though. Thought there were a few more Yoshida fans here.
Huge fan of the director, but not of this particular movie
Biggest surprise is the lack of love for Grandrieux here...
Not so surprising, but I still don't get it, is the love for West of the Tracks (landing at #16 with 3 number 1 positions). I have disliked other works from this celebrated docu filmer, but this one felt like such a slog, and so technically inept at times, that it truly baffles me where the love comes from

I've seen 92/131
Highest unseen is Oasis at #20
Most want to see first is Frida at #41
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beavis wrote: May 1st, 2022, 10:01 pm Not so surprising, but I still don't get it, is the love for West of the Tracks (landing at #16 with 3 number 1 positions). I have disliked other works from this celebrated docu filmer, but this one felt like such a slog, and so technically inept at times, that it truly baffles me where the love comes from
Maybe the people who sat through 9 hours of that feel obliged to vote the film into several lists, so that other people will have to endure it too :ph43r:
(Just joking, not seen it myself, maybe it's fantastic, maybe it's dull, idk)

At least the right gimmick film entered the Top 10 and the pretentious one left.
Chicago at #24 has the least mentions out of the first 35 films, if that translates to something useful for anyone.
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somehow both 1993 and 2002 have managed to place two of my most hated films at #1!
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We were the only voters for Ju-On (D:)
That movie must really have suffered from all the sequels and remakes, and overall the J-Horror hype dying down.
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Torgo wrote: May 2nd, 2022, 12:01 am We were the only voters for Ju-On (D:)
That movie must really have suffered from all the sequels and remakes, and overall the J-Horror hype dying down.
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agreed - i think it's a masterpiece of horror! one of the few films that is a trauma metaphor that also manages to be a great and effective horror first and foremost. i don't mind some of the sequels and remakes but you're right they probably did dilute the perception

fun fact: shimizu was a student of kiyoshi kurosawa which i only found out after watching ju-on and thinking it seemed similar to cure
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Teproc: Thanks for running this poll.
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I remember watching City of God in a screenwriting class 10 years ago this month. I fell asleep but I was interested so I went back and watched it at home.
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I’ve seen nearly half the films in the top 130, and close to half of my choices (8) made the top 20 which may be appropos.
What’s most interesting is that two films with fewer than 1200 IMDb votes cracked the top 20 based on a small cadre of followers (10), and the highest placer of the two has only around 300 imdv votes.

Nice to see the Claire Denis film has also found an audience, here, probably the same 10 who support the Piavoli film.

Heremakono, Zhou Yu de huo che, Respiro, and Divine Intervention deserve better, as do Carnages, and Dom Durakov, and The Dancer Upstairs, which only got votes from me.

Heremakono is my favorite African film by my favorite African filmmaker,

Zhou Yu de huo che is a poetic romance set in rural China inspired by Mood For Love,

Respiro is a Sicilian family comedy/drama set on a small fisherman's island featuring the lovely Valeria Golino,

and Divine Intervention is a dry satiric Palestinian take on life in Jerusalem that reminds me a bit of Roy Andersson's films.

As for Carnages, this is another bizarre comedy / drama that follows the death and afterlife of a Bull killed in the ring. Though it is French, it feels more like a cross between something by Bunuel and Almodovar.

Dom Durakov kind of like a cross between One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and King of Hearts, Russian style. A war time satire set in mental hospital that also feels like something by Jiri Menzel.

And, The Dancer Upstairs is a political thriller set in Peru, and directed by John Malkovich, featuring an outstanding performance by Javier Bardem.



Given that there are 131 films that got at least two votes among a fairly small group of participants, it would seem that many of you included films on your lists that escaped most participant's attention. Would love to hear more about the favorites you believe have been overlooked and how they might appeal to those who haven't seen them.
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City of God is probably one of the first well received films i've ever seen, like as a teenager, and I think i watched it because of IMDb, although i'm not 100% sure since i have not seen any other films from the IMDb top 250 back than, just City of God. I however loved it a lot. But i'm not sure why i watched that film, and none of the others specifically.
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Thanks for the results, Teproc!
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