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There were 529 titles voted by 52 participants.

Below are all the films that received at least 25 points

Rank Title [AKA] Director Points Ballots Highest Ranking IMDb Votes iCM Checks Toplists
1 The Godfather Francis Ford Coppola 242.5 18 1 :imdb: 1,722,904 :ICM: 96,080 39
2 Taxi Driver Martin Scorsese 219.5 16 2 :imdb: 769,975 :ICM: 69,845 32
3 Apocalypse Now Francis Ford Coppola 215 16 1 :imdb: 635,911 :ICM: 63,220 36
4 Vertigo Alfred Hitchcock 176.5 13 1 :imdb: 385,785 :ICM: 44,520 40
5 Psycho Alfred Hitchcock 172.5 14 2 :imdb: 637,630 :ICM: 71,246 38
6 12 Angry Men Sidney Lumet 163.5 11 1 :imdb: 738,100 :ICM: 53,700 29
7 Citizen Kane Orson Welles 158 14 1 :imdb: 425,740 :ICM: 49,486 37
8 Rear Window Alfred Hitchcock 149.5 14 1 :imdb: 469,802 :ICM: 47,386 30
9 Casablanca Michael Curtiz 128.5 11 1 :imdb: 547,249 :ICM: 56,887 36
10 Pulp Fiction Quentin Tarantino 126 9 1 :imdb: 1,928,928 :ICM: 124,260 37
11 The Matrix Lilly Wachowski, Lana Wachowski 121 10 3 :imdb: 1,782,270 :ICM: 134,046 28
12 The Night of the Hunter Charles Laughton 97 7 1 :imdb: 86,281 :ICM: 14,154 31
13 The Big Lebowski Ethan Coen, Joel Coen 95.5 7 1 :imdb: 772,576 :ICM: 83,177 25
14 Fargo Ethan Coen, Joel Coen 91 7 2 :imdb: 648,625 :ICM: 65,633 26
15 Reservoir Dogs Quentin Tarantino 90 7 1 :imdb: 966,749 :ICM: 88,944 26
16 City Lights Charles Chaplin 87 9 1 :imdb: 177,554 :ICM: 20,771 33
17 Star Wars [Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope] George Lucas 85 7 1 :imdb: 1,288,129 :ICM: 117,008 38
18 Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans [Sunrise] F.W. Murnau 84 6 3 :imdb: 49,895 :ICM: 9,264 34
19 It's a Wonderful Life Frank Capra 82.5 5 1 :imdb: 426,075 :ICM: 48,613 30
20 A Woman Under the Influence John Cassavetes 82 6 2 :imdb: 24,075 :ICM: 5,572 15
21 Sunset Blvd. [Sunset Boulevard] Billy Wilder 81 9 1 :imdb: 213,031 :ICM: 26,038 33
22 Goodfellas Martin Scorsese 79 7 4 :imdb: 1,082,132 :ICM: 74,380 30
22 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest Milos Forman 79 6 1 :imdb: 961,834 :ICM: 75,820 33
22 Singin' in the Rain Gene Kelly, Stanley Donen 79 9 3 :imdb: 230,778 :ICM: 41,450 36
25 The Conversation Francis Ford Coppola 75 6 2 :imdb: 106,776 :ICM: 14,694 22
26 Mulholland Dr. [Mulholland Drive] David Lynch 74.5 7 1 :imdb: 340,617 :ICM: 38,783 25
27 Modern Times Charles Chaplin 72.5 8 3 :imdb: 230,885 :ICM: 29,362 30
28 The Tree of Life Terrence Malick 69 4 1 :imdb: 173,010 :ICM: 21,280 12
28 Sherlock Jr. Buster Keaton 69 5 5 :imdb: 46,661 :ICM: 9,866 23
30 Blade Runner Ridley Scott 68.5 5 3 :imdb: 730,361 :ICM: 70,989 33
31 There Will Be Blood Paul Thomas Anderson 65.5 4 1 :imdb: 551,164 :ICM: 57,794 19
32 American Beauty Sam Mendes 63 4 2 :imdb: 1,111,958 :ICM: 99,093 23
33 The Godfather: Part II Francis Ford Coppola 59 6 4 :imdb: 1,195,804 :ICM: 72,732 30
34 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Peter Jackson 58 5 2 :imdb: 1,748,202 :ICM: 134,729 27
34 3 Women Robert Altman 58 4 3 :imdb: 14,860 :ICM: 2,788 6
34 Badlands Terrence Malick 58 5 5 :imdb: 70,435 :ICM: 11,967 22
37 Schindler's List Steven Spielberg 56 5 3 :imdb: 1,279,114 :ICM: 88,119 33
38 North by Northwest Alfred Hitchcock 53 5 3 :imdb: 314,786 :ICM: 34,927 27
38 The Silence of the Lambs Jonathan Demme 53 6 3 :imdb: 1,346,410 :ICM: 105,739 34
38 Duck Soup Leo McCarey 53 5 2 :imdb: 59,024 :ICM: 14,523 23
41 Rebecca Alfred Hitchcock 52 4 2 :imdb: 132,167 :ICM: 16,416 22
42 The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance John Ford 49.5 4 7 :imdb: 73,227 :ICM: 10,205 15
42 As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty Jonas Mekas 49.5 3 1 :imdb: 1,109 :ICM: 393 6
44 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back Irvin Kershner 49 4 3 :imdb: 1,216,455 :ICM: 111,623 23
45 The Apartment Billy Wilder 47 4 3 :imdb: 173,721 :ICM: 21,196 27
46 Gone with the Wind Victor Fleming 46 3 4 :imdb: 303,502 :ICM: 42,723 30
47 Fantasia various directors 44.5 4 2 :imdb: 92,654 :ICM: 55,105 20
48 Requiem for a Dream Darren Aronofsky 44 4 2 :imdb: 801,998 :ICM: 76,677 20
48 The Adventures of Robin Hood Michael Curtiz, William Keighley 44 4 4 :imdb: 49,499 :ICM: 14,221 17
50 Fight Club David Fincher 43.5 4 3 :imdb: 1,966,006 :ICM: 129,022 17
51 Chinatown Roman Polanski 43 3 1 :imdb: 312,210 :ICM: 35,353 30
51 The Wizard of Oz Victor Fleming 43 4 2 :imdb: 381,897 :ICM: 88,509 33
53 Annie Hall Woody Allen 42 5 2 :imdb: 259,310 :ICM: 39,510 33
53 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Michel Gondry 42 5 6 :imdb: 956,678 :ICM: 97,445 27
55 Rio Bravo Howard Hawks 41 4 10 :imdb: 59,784 :ICM: 9,052 18
55 His Girl Friday Howard Hawks 41 3 3 :imdb: 56,613 :ICM: 11,581 20
55 Make Way for Tomorrow Leo McCarey 41 3 4 :imdb: 8,128 :ICM: 2,622 16
58 Jaws Steven Spielberg 40 4 2 :imdb: 569,465 :ICM: 88,304 25
58 Touch of Evil Orson Welles 40 3 4 :imdb: 102,108 :ICM: 14,662 28
58 Toy Story 3 Lee Unkrich 40 4 8 :imdb: 792,940 :ICM: 102,383 16
58 The Shawshank Redemption Frank Darabont 40 4 4 :imdb: 2,498,731 :ICM: 110,745 21
62 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre John Huston 39 5 6 :imdb: 120,685 :ICM: 14,656 24
63 Network Sidney Lumet 38 4 7 :imdb: 153,490 :ICM: 21,287 13
63 The Last Picture Show Peter Bogdanovich 38 4 5 :imdb: 45,441 :ICM: 8,141 19
65 Punishment Park Peter Watkins 37 2 1 :imdb: 6,803 :ICM: 1,120 4
65 Spring Breakers Harmony Korine 37 3 2 :imdb: 139,588 :ICM: 10,077 5
65 Black Swan Darren Aronofsky 37 3 7 :imdb: 729,969 :ICM: 82,711 11
68 The General Buster Keaton, Clyde Bruckman 36.5 4 10 :imdb: 87,655 :ICM: 14,091 33
69 Synecdoche, New York Charlie Kaufman 36 2 1 :imdb: 88,031 :ICM: 13,726 8
70 Safe Todd Haynes 35 3 3 :imdb: 14,477 :ICM: 2,788 8
71 Boogie Nights Paul Thomas Anderson 34 3 6 :imdb: 252,601 :ICM: 28,531 10
71 The Thin Red Line Terrence Malick 34 3 4 :imdb: 181,630 :ICM: 22,169 13
73 Being John Malkovich Spike Jonze 33 2 2 :imdb: 325,027 :ICM: 45,636 13
73 The King of Comedy Martin Scorsese 33 2 3 :imdb: 97,418 :ICM: 10,940 14
75 The Best Years of Our Lives William Wyler 32 3 2 :imdb: 61,418 :ICM: 7,809 28
75 Terminator 2: Judgment Day James Cameron 32 4 7 :imdb: 1,042,577 :ICM: 91,493 23
75 American History X Tony Kaye 32 3 6 :imdb: 1,074,940 :ICM: 82,492 10
78 To Kill a Mockingbird Robert Mulligan 31 3 2 :imdb: 306,214 :ICM: 49,407 19
78 Lost Highway David Lynch 31 3 2 :imdb: 137,408 :ICM: 13,079 8
80 Alien Ridley Scott 30 2 1 :imdb: 832,270 :ICM: 82,397 28
80 Blade Runner 2049 Denis Villeneuve 30 2 2 :imdb: 516,559 :ICM: 13,826 7
80 Some Like It Hot Billy Wilder 30 4 12 :imdb: 256,287 :ICM: 35,096 34
80 Two-Lane Blacktop Monte Hellman 30 3 4 :imdb: 12,080 :ICM: 2,704 12
80 The Grand Budapest Hotel Wes Anderson 30 3 6 :imdb: 755,425 :ICM: 36,893 15
85 Manhattan Woody Allen 29.5 3 6 :imdb: 137,148 :ICM: 22,755 18
86 Back to the Future Robert Zemeckis 29 2 5 :imdb: 1,125,330 :ICM: 122,824 24
86 The Graduate Mike Nichols 29 2 6 :imdb: 264,963 :ICM: 43,688 27
86 All That Heaven Allows Douglas Sirk 29 2 5 :imdb: 14,187 :ICM: 3,850 11
86 Midsommar Ari Aster 29 2 4 :imdb: 265,115 :ICM: 5,277 3
90 Sweet Smell of Success Alexander Mackendrick 28.5 4 6 :imdb: 30,421 :ICM: 6,013 19
91 The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou Wes Anderson 27.5 2 4 :imdb: 189,419 :ICM: 24,592 3
91 The Magnificent Ambersons Orson Welles 27.5 3 5 :imdb: 23,989 :ICM: 4,963 13
91 Inside Llewyn Davis Ethan Coen, Joel Coen 27.5 3 5 :imdb: 147,807 :ICM: 13,330 8
94 Amadeus Milos Forman 27 2 3 :imdb: 385,254 :ICM: 47,191 21
94 Interstellar Christopher Nolan 27 2 2 :imdb: 1,647,175 :ICM: 38,972 10
96 Speedy Ted Wilde 26.5 2 5 :imdb: 3,605 :ICM: 823 3
96 The Public Enemy William A. Wellman 26.5 2 5 :imdb: 20,433 :ICM: 4,361 13
96 Gold Diggers of 1933 Mervyn LeRoy 26.5 2 5 :imdb: 7,827 :ICM: 2,762 10
99 Barton Fink Ethan Coen, Joel Coen 26 4 10 :imdb: 117,789 :ICM: 15,349 8
99 After Hours Martin Scorsese 26 2 4 :imdb: 65,655 :ICM: 6,971 5
99 Blue Velvet David Lynch 26 2 7 :imdb: 190,891 :ICM: 26,429 25
99 Magnolia Paul Thomas Anderson 26 2 2 :imdb: 301,763 :ICM: 37,740 15
103 No Country for Old Men Ethan Coen, Joel Coen 25.5 3 6 :imdb: 911,774 :ICM: 80,507 22
104 The Thing John Carpenter 25 2 5 :imdb: 397,958 :ICM: 43,582 19

Runners Up (20+ points or 3+ votes)
Rank Title [AKA] Director Points Ballots Highest Ranking IMDb Votes iCM Checks Toplists
105 The Ten Commandments Cecil B. DeMille 24.5 2 7 :imdb: 67,670 :ICM: 12,722 10
105 Before Sunset Richard Linklater 24.5 2 11 :imdb: 250,336 :ICM: 22,525 16
105 Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me David Lynch 24.5 2 11 :imdb: 93,349 :ICM: 9,289 6
105 Koyaanisqatsi Godfrey Reggio 24.5 2 7 :imdb: 37,280 :ICM: 6,827 11
109 The Grapes of Wrath John Ford 24 2 8 :imdb: 89,897 :ICM: 15,228 21
109 Gravity Alfonso CuarΓ³n 24 2 5 :imdb: 797,097 :ICM: 38,549 10
109 Now, Voyager Irving Rapper 24 2 6 :imdb: 16,367 :ICM: 2,851 12
112 You Can't Take It with You Frank Capra 23 2 7 :imdb: 24,776 :ICM: 3,605 5
112 Hoop Dreams Steve James 23 2 1 :imdb: 25,685 :ICM: 6,652 14
112 Dawn of the Dead George A. Romero 23 2 4 :imdb: 117,011 :ICM: 29,434 14
112 The Purple Rose of Cairo Woody Allen 23 2 7 :imdb: 50,315 :ICM: 8,834 7
116 Carol Todd Haynes 22 2 9 :imdb: 123,192 :ICM: 6,336 7
116 The Maltese Falcon John Huston 22 2 2 :imdb: 154,432 :ICM: 23,579 26
116 South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut Trey Parker 22 2 7 :imdb: 199,388 :ICM: 40,543 9
116 The Bridges of Madison County Clint Eastwood 22 2 8 :imdb: 77,941 :ICM: 6,742 6
116 Sex, Lies, and Videotape Steven Soderbergh 22 2 6 :imdb: 53,197 :ICM: 9,468 11
116 Gummo Harmony Korine 22 2 2 :imdb: 33,916 :ICM: 4,292 5
116 Donnie Darko Richard Kelly 22 2 1 :imdb: 769,666 :ICM: 89,657 19
123 The Wild Bunch Sam Peckinpah 21.5 2 10 :imdb: 82,116 :ICM: 12,828 24
123 The Crowd King Vidor 21.5 2 9 :imdb: 8,183 :ICM: 2,594 18
125 The Searchers John Ford 21 3 13 :imdb: 85,897 :ICM: 12,888 24
125 Jurassic Park Steven Spielberg 21 2 1 :imdb: 918,523 :ICM: 115,080 22
125 Rapture John Guillermin 21 2 7 :imdb: 909 :ICM: 208 1
128 The Right Stuff Philip Kaufman 20.5 2 11 :imdb: 59,859 :ICM: 7,241 11
128 The Big Heat Fritz Lang 20.5 2 11 :imdb: 25,624 :ICM: 5,530 18
130 Finding Nemo Andrew Stanton 20 1 1 :imdb: 992,068 :ICM: 133,349 16
130 Heaven and Earth Magic [Magic Feature] Harry Smith 20 1 1 :imdb: 707 :ICM: 399 2
130 The Stand Mick Garris 20 1 1 :imdb: 34,885 :ICM: 1,736 1
130 La La Land Damien Chazelle 20 1 1 :imdb: 544,856 :ICM: 17,665 16
130 Greed Erich von Stroheim 20 1 1 :imdb: 9,640 :ICM: 2,719 20
130 All Souls Carnival Len Lye 20 1 1 :imdb: 8 :ICM: 4 0
130 Pop Skull Adam Wingard 20 1 1 :imdb: 429 :ICM: 88 0
130 Waves Trey Edward Shults 20 1 1 :imdb: 21,738 :ICM: 527 1
130 A Face in the Crowd Elia Kazan 20 1 1 :imdb: 15,082 :ICM: 2,436 13
130 Aliens James Cameron 20 2 6 :imdb: 684,893 :ICM: 65,482 22
140 Do the Right Thing Spike Lee 19 3 6 :imdb: 97,601 :ICM: 17,206 24
140 Cloverfield Matt Reeves 19 3 7 :imdb: 385,722 :ICM: 34,511 3
185 Double Indemnity Billy Wilder 16.5 3 12 :imdb: 151,190 :ICM: 20,024 35
186 The Great Dictator Charles Chaplin 16 3 7 :imdb: 214,954 :ICM: 26,454 24
203 Unforgiven Clint Eastwood 15.5 3 18 :imdb: 395,264 :ICM: 34,411 22
284 Close Encounters of the Third Kind Steven Spielberg 11 3 15 :imdb: 193,872 :ICM: 33,758 22
Films that received 1st place votes
4 - Apocalypse Now - beavis, hurluberlu, Melvelet, Mario Gaborović
3 - The Night of the Hunter - sol, MysteriousDude, Good_Will_Harding
2 - The Godfather - beasterne, Panunzio
2 - 12 Angry Men - maxwelldeux, joachimt
2 - Pulp Fiction - Teproc, AB537
2 - It's a Wonderful Life - Rufus-T, ororma
2 - There Will Be Blood - filmbantha, Smoover
1 - Vertigo - Caracortada
1 - Citizen Kane - tommy_leazaq
1 - Rear Window - Gordon_Gekko
1 - Casablanca - gromit82
1 - The Big Lebowski - brokenface
1 - Reservoir Dogs - clemmetary
1 - City Lights - jal90
1 - Star Wars - gunnar
1 - Sunset Blvd. - Sliga
1 - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - mightysparks
1 - Mulholland Dr. - Gorro
1 - The Tree of Life - matthewscott8
1 - As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty - Dolwphin
1 - Chinatown - RolandKirkSunglasses
1 - Punishment Park - zomgmouse
1 - Synecdoche, New York - TraverseTown
1 - Alien - peeptoad
1 - Hoop Dreams - sebby
1 - Donnie Darko - Lonewolf2003
1 - Jurassic Park - Arkantos
1 - A Face in the Crowd - 3eyes
1 - All Souls Carnival - pitchorneirda
1 - Finding Nemo - Fergenaprido
1 - Greed - Opio
1 - Heaven and Earth Magic - insomnius
1 - La La Land - OldAle1
1 - Pop Skull - Onderhond
1 - The Stand - zzzorf
1 - Waves - Lakigigar
1 - Guess Who's Coming to Dinner - LaTierri

The next poll will be United Kingdom.
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Here are the results as an icm list: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+ ... genaprido/
Here is the master list with the top 20 from each poll: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+ ... genaprido/

Let me know what other stats you'd like to see in the table or in the information below.
I'll add in the #1 votes for each person later. - Done

Also, Rufus-T, how do you automate determining the Highest Ranking, or do you do it manually?


Edit: I just realized the years are missing. I'll add those to the table.
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I'm stoked that Speedy made the cut! The project is off to a great start, thanks for doing these Ferg

Seen 51 of the 104 (49%)
Number of favourites: 8
Number of dislikes: 2
Highest unseen: #1, the Godfather :unsure: I should get around to that one...
Highest favourite: #11, The Matrix (which I just realized I never dropped a fav on, but that is now corrected)
Highest dislike: #13, The Big Lebowski
Position of my #1: Unranked. Side note, we need a crying smilie.
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Cheers Arkantos! Also, thanks to you Jurassic Park made the runners-up; we're the only two who voted for it. :cheers:

This is the closest we have to a crying smiley on the forum (on the second pages of smilies): :'(
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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 12:38 am Cheers Arkantos! Also, thanks to you Jurassic Park made the runners-up; we're the only two who voted for it. :cheers:

This is the closest we have to a crying smiley on the forum (on the second pages of smilies): :'(
If we could've submitted a top 50 there would have been at least one more :whistling:

It's kinda interesting limiting the submissions to 20 because even the film with the most votes still only got votes from ~35% of voters. I'm surprised at how low some of the voting numbers are for the majority of the list. And yet still mostly predictable choices in a weird order :shrug: (not a complaint, just coz it's USA). Only film I haven't seen is Punishment Park.
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Was it changed that Alien was eligible, otherwise it would have made my list, but I excluded it because i saw in one of your posts it was stated to be UK?
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Lakigigar wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 1:17 am Was it changed that Alien was eligible, otherwise it would have made my list, but I excluded it because i saw in one of your posts it was stated to be UK?
Yep: viewtopic.php?p=742490#p742490

I also updated the second post with all of the decisions: viewtopic.php?p=739742#p739742

For future polls, I hope to have most of the cases resolved at least a week before the deadline, but for this first one things were a bit rough. :ph43r:
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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 1:20 am
Lakigigar wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 1:17 am Was it changed that Alien was eligible, otherwise it would have made my list, but I excluded it because i saw in one of your posts it was stated to be UK?
Yep: viewtopic.php?p=742490#p742490

I also updated the second post with all of the decisions: viewtopic.php?p=739742#p739742

For future polls, I hope to have most of the cases resolved at least a week before the deadline, but for this first one things were a bit rough. :ph43r:
I understand. It's not a big deal. I don't know what place it would have been. It's surprisingly low in my top 250, so i need to take a look into that, but it probably would have made my top 20, but i don't know how many points a 10-20 place would have been. It might have been 20 places higher at max, but at least it made the top 100, so no big deal.

I understand that this is rather a tough thing to do.
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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2021, 10:23 pm Films that received 1st place votes
3 - The Night of the Hunter - sol, MysteriousDude, Good_Will_Harding
I wasn't expecting so many Night of the Hunter buddies.
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Cool results. Well done, Fergie. I know a lot of work went into determining eligibility and everything else.
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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 1:20 am
Lakigigar wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 1:17 am Was it changed that Alien was eligible, otherwise it would have made my list, but I excluded it because i saw in one of your posts it was stated to be UK?
Yep: viewtopic.php?p=742490#p742490

I also updated the second post with all of the decisions: viewtopic.php?p=739742#p739742

For future polls, I hope to have most of the cases resolved at least a week before the deadline, but for this first one things were a bit rough. :ph43r:
I totally missed the change of ruling as well, would have been high on my list.
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hurluberlu wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 6:50 am
Fergenaprido wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 1:20 am
Lakigigar wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 1:17 am Was it changed that Alien was eligible, otherwise it would have made my list, but I excluded it because i saw in one of your posts it was stated to be UK?
Yep: viewtopic.php?p=742490#p742490

I also updated the second post with all of the decisions: viewtopic.php?p=739742#p739742

For future polls, I hope to have most of the cases resolved at least a week before the deadline, but for this first one things were a bit rough. :ph43r:
I totally missed the change of ruling as well, would have been high on my list.
Well it wasn't really a change in ruling; my initial comment was that I wasn't sure, then I tentatively said it was American: viewtopic.php?p=740723#p740723 (though it was in a very long post so it might have been easily missed - I'll make sure I post shorter posts in the future so that things don't get lost in the weeds, that's good feedback for me :thumbsup: )
Only toward the end did I confirm it, though. There's always next time - it will be interesting to see how the list changes even if it's all the same participants. ^_^
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mightysparks wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 12:44 am Only film I haven't seen is Punishment Park.
Same here. :cheers:
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Great List.. Thanks Ferg.

Seen 102 of 104. Missing Ones: As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou

I thought the ballot asked for the "Best" films of the country so I only considered the films that I feel superior in cinematic quality in many departments for this ballot. I haven't gone for personal favorite films or films that are iconic/influential etc. Otherwise films like PotC 1 and 2, Cars, Jurassic Park, Star Wars would have been in my ballot.
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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 7:22 am
hurluberlu wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 6:50 am
Fergenaprido wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 1:20 am

Yep: viewtopic.php?p=742490#p742490

I also updated the second post with all of the decisions: viewtopic.php?p=739742#p739742

For future polls, I hope to have most of the cases resolved at least a week before the deadline, but for this first one things were a bit rough. :ph43r:
I totally missed the change of ruling as well, would have been high on my list.
Well it wasn't really a change in ruling; my initial comment was that I wasn't sure, then I tentatively said it was American: viewtopic.php?p=740723#p740723 (though it was in a very long post so it might have been easily missed - I'll make sure I post shorter posts in the future so that things don't get lost in the weeds, that's good feedback for me :thumbsup: )
Only toward the end did I confirm it, though. There's always next time - it will be interesting to see how the list changes even if it's all the same participants. ^_^
Dont beat yourself, as you say it was a first and probably that having a 2-weeks pre-discussion on rulings before voting can start would be ideal next.
I was among the early voters and your statement at the time was that Alien was UK although discussion was open. Then there was no real discussion about it for some time so I didn’t come back to it.
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Cool beans. Can't say it's the most exciting or illuminating list on the site - and it will probably end up being the least-interesting one in this project - but it does offer one thing that no other poll has offered to me: completion. I think this is the first poll result I've seen here where I've seen every film.

Only a few dislikes, the highest being The Matrix, and that's really just a borderline case (and heck, maybe it'll improve when I watch it again soon, I like just about all of the Wachowskis' non-Matrix work).

UK should be interesting - I don't think there's been a UK poll since before I started posting here, so 5 years or more. Really have little idea what to expect with that one, given some of the odder choices in the lower half of this list.
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Seen: 96/104 (92.31%)
Highest unchecked: 3 Women (#35)
Number of favorites: 12/96 (12.50%)
Highest favorite: Reservoir Dogs (#15)
Number of dislikes: 40/96 (41.67%)
Highest dislike: Taxi Driver (#2)
Unofficial films: 0/104 (0.00%)

I wonder what they first country will be with an unofficial film.
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Onderhond wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 2:37 pm

I wonder what they first country will be with an unofficial film.
Good question. Doubt it would be the UK, France or Japan, that's for sure. Or most other large-output countries. The exception could be if there's a new release that people just go nuts for and a lot of people see it before it gets on any lists, but that seems really unlikely for the really major countries in particular. But I think it's most likely going to be a smaller country where some people struggle to come up with a list to begin with.
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Thank you for the results, Ferg. Congrats on getting this up and running. It's a huge project and you are handling it with a lot of Γ©lan.

What caught my eye here was the last place in the Top 20. Impressive showing by the Cassavetes to take that spot with half the number of official lists and a fraction of the checks that titles around it tended to have.

I'm looking forward to the UK poll, and what comes beyond!

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That's all, folks!
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Thanks Roger. I learned a new word today :woot:

Yeah, the Cassavetes caught my eye as well. As I think someone else noted, the films in the list aren't surprising, but the order of them is. I was going to do a "notable" omissions section of the OP, but couldn't figure out the best comparison list since we've never done a US-only poll here before.

The highest unofficial checks are the 2 runners-up with 1 first place vote each. The highest film on one official list is Rapture.

I've only seen about half of the Top 104, and about half of the full 529 list.
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Thanks, Ferge.

I’ve seen almost all, only haven’t seen As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty (2000)
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Seen: 45/104 (43.27%)
Highest unchecked: Citizen Kane (1941)
Number of favorites: 26/45 (57.78%)
Highest favorite: Taxi Driver (#2)
Number of dislikes: 1/45
Highest dislike: Requiem for a Dream
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Seen: 102/104 (98.08%)
Highest unchecked: As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty (#43)
Number of favorites: 38/102 (37.25%)
Highest favorite: The Godfather (#1) - my #6 vote
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... taxi + narration + driver ... (D:)

personally I couldn't re-watched the whole thing.. also same thing for Apocalypse Now... :down:
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This is very interesting. The Scorsese movie here is Taxi Driver, not Raging Bull. Raging Bull did not even made it in the final list. The Matrix is definitely an important film, as shown here again in this poll. Kind of disappointed not to see Die Hard, one of the best action and Christmas movie ever.
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Fergenaprido wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2021, 10:25 pm
Also, Rufus-T, how do you automate determining the Highest Ranking, or do you do it manually?
I actually had the data in SPSS to do the tabulation before importing into Excel for the Markup. In SPSS, I used the min function on the ranking to get the highest rank, with the unranked recoded as rank #21. I am sure Excel can do similarly.
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Rufus-T wrote: ↑December 9th, 2021, 8:43 pm
Fergenaprido wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2021, 10:25 pm
Also, Rufus-T, how do you automate determining the Highest Ranking, or do you do it manually?
I actually had the data in SPSS to do the tabulation before importing into Excel for the Markup. In SPSS, I used the min function on the ranking to get the highest rank, with the unranked recoded as rank #21. I am sure Excel can do similarly.
Okay, thanks. :) I'm not familiar with SPSS, but I'll see what I can do with the min function and try and make it work in Excel.

Edit: Okay, I figured out a workaround using MIN and a pivot table. The OP is now updated with the Highest Ranking for each film (excluding unranked/partially ranked ballots). Thanks again Rufus-T.
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Rufus-T wrote: ↑December 9th, 2021, 8:39 pm This is very interesting. The Scorsese movie here is Taxi Driver, not Raging Bull. Raging Bull did not even made it in the final list.
Raging Bull isn't even our favorite Scorsese movie of the 1980's. It didn't even make our top 200 of all time! It seems the critics like it a lot more than we do.
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matthewscott8 wrote: ↑December 14th, 2021, 11:07 am
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lynchs wrote: ↑December 5th, 2021, 3:00 pm ... taxi + narration + driver ... (D:)

personally I couldn't re-watched the whole thing.. also same thing for Apocalypse Now... :down:
I can think of a lot of worse things about movies than narration, which can work very well some times.
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cinewest wrote: ↑December 15th, 2021, 4:18 am
lynchs wrote: ↑December 5th, 2021, 3:00 pm ... taxi + narration + driver ... (D:)

personally I couldn't re-watched the whole thing.. also same thing for Apocalypse Now... :down:
I can think of a lot of worse things about movies than narration, which can work very well some times.
99% of the time, just doesn't work for me ...

the only narration that works/worked for me I think is in the old/new Dexter series, in everything else, it's only... pure lazzziness man :poshclap:
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lynchs wrote: ↑December 17th, 2021, 2:12 pm
cinewest wrote: ↑December 15th, 2021, 4:18 am
lynchs wrote: ↑December 5th, 2021, 3:00 pm ... taxi + narration + driver ... (D:)

personally I couldn't re-watched the whole thing.. also same thing for Apocalypse Now... :down:
I can think of a lot of worse things about movies than narration, which can work very well some times.
99% of the time, just doesn't work for me ...

the only narration that works/worked for me I think is in the old/new Dexter series, in everything else, it's only... pure lazzziness man :poshclap:
I happen to love some of Malick's and Wong Kar Wai's films among others, and they both use voice over very effectively to me
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I understand why one can be bothered by voice overs and narrations, but it depends on the subject matter, the extent of use, the quality of the voice over (voice acting, does the voice fit, the written content of the monologue itself) so it is a case vs case thing for me personally. In documentaries i prefer voice over or narration over interviews for example, but in a film it can be used in a forced way or it can hinder from the film experience itself, when i believe the film has to tell their tale itself.
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Lakigigar wrote: ↑December 26th, 2021, 11:41 pm I understand why one can be bothered by voice overs and narrations, but it depends on the subject matter, the extent of use, the quality of the voice over (voice acting, does the voice fit, the written content of the monologue itself) so it is a case vs case thing for me personally. In documentaries i prefer voice over or narration over interviews for example, but in a film it can be used in a forced way or it can hinder from the film experience itself, when i believe the film has to tell their tale itself.
There are a lot of unimaginative, mediocre film narratives out there whether they use voice over or not
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