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Year by Year Polls: 1946 (RESULTS)

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ICM Forum's Favorite Films from 1946


There were 48 voters and 131 different films voted for in this poll. The table below shows all films that received at least 21 points.

Rank Title AKA Director Points Received Number of Ballots Number of IMDB Votes Link
1 The Big Sleep Howard Hawks 453.0 39 83,208 :imdb:
2 La belle et la bête Beauty and the Beast Jean Cocteau 445.0 36 25,712 :imdb:
3 It's a Wonderful Life Frank Capra 417.5 33 425,610 :imdb:
4 The Best Years of Our Lives William Wyler 403.0 34 61,393 :imdb:
5 Notorious Alfred Hitchcock 377.0 34 97,980 :imdb:
6 A Matter of Life and Death Michael Powell, Emeric Pressburger 334.0 31 21,157 :imdb:
7 My Darling Clementine John Ford 328.0 33 22,810 :imdb:
8 The Killers Robert Siodmak 276.0 32 20,476 :imdb:
9 Great Expectations David Lean 241.0 25 23,371 :imdb:
10 Sciuscià Shoeshine Vittorio De Sica 230.0 22 7,126 :imdb:
11 The Postman Always Rings Twice Tay Garnett 184.5 20 20,016 :imdb:
12 Unter den Brücken Under the Bridges Helmut Käutner 177.0 16 749 :imdb:
13 Paisà Paisan Roberto Rossellini 168.5 19 8,148 :imdb:
14 Gilda Charles Vidor 165.5 23 31,156 :imdb:
15 The Spiral Staircase Robert Siodmak 162.0 15 9,734 :imdb:
16 Panique Julien Duvivier 160.0 14 1,864 :imdb:
17 Cluny Brown Ernst Lubitsch 146.0 16 3,300 :imdb:
18 The Stranger Orson Welles 138.0 19 25,664 :imdb:
19 Die Mörder sind unter uns Murderers Among Us Wolfgang Staudte 115.0 11 2,261 :imdb:
20 Green for Danger Sidney Gilliat 107.0 11 4,771 :imdb:
21 Partie de campagne A Day in the Country Jean Renoir 92.0 9 6,232 :imdb:
22 The Strange Love of Martha Ivers Lewis Milestone 90.5 14 9,291 :imdb:
23 Duel in the Sun King Vidor 87.0 10 8,468 :imdb:
24 The Dark Mirror Robert Siodmak 83.0 11 4,826 :imdb:
25 Canyon Passage Jacques Tourneur 71.5 9 2,179 :imdb:
26 The Razor's Edge Edmund Goulding 69.0 8 5,878 :imdb:
27 Black Angel Roy William Neill 68.5 7 3,050 :imdb:
28 La otra The Other One Roberto Gavaldón 63.0 7 352 :imdb:
29 Utamaro o meguru gonin no onna Utamaro and His Five Women Kenji Mizoguchi 58.0 5 1,249 :imdb:
30 Les portes de la nuit Gates of the Night Marcel Carné 53.5 6 1,152 :imdb:
31 To Each His Own Mitchell Leisen 51.0 5 2,699 :imdb:
32 Ritual in Transfigured Time Maya Deren 50.0 9 1,633 :imdb:
33 Waga seishun ni kuinashi No Regrets for Our Youth Akira Kurosawa 48.0 8 3,352 :imdb:
34 Kamennyy tsvetok The Stone Flower Aleksandr Ptushko 40.0 4 449 :imdb:
34 The Jolson Story Alfred E. Green 40.0 3 1,592 :imdb:
36 The Blue Dahlia George Marshall 36.0 6 8,264 :imdb:
37 Fragment of Seeking Curtis Harrington 35.0 2 260 :imdb:
38 The Locket John Brahm 32.0 4 2,556 :imdb:
39 Lady in the Lake Robert Montgomery 30.0 5 5,343 :imdb:
40 Farrebique ou Les quatre saisons Farrebique Georges Rouquier 28.0 4 240 :imdb:
41 The Big Snooze Robert Clampett 27.0 4 1,125 :imdb:
41 The Great Piggy Bank Robbery Robert Clampett 27.0 4 2,033 :imdb:
43 Kris Crisis Ingmar Bergman 26.0 3 2,923 :imdb:
44 Dragonwyck Joseph L. Mankiewicz 25.0 3 4,359 :imdb:
45 The Chase Arthur Ripley 24.0 4 1,898 :imdb:
45 Det regnar på vår kärlek Man with an Umbrella Ingmar Bergman 24.0 3 1,451 :imdb:
45 Sylvie et le fantôme Sylvia and the Ghost Claude Autant-Lara 24.0 3 324 :imdb:
48 Hair-Raising Hare Chuck Jones 23.0 5 2,710 :imdb:
48 Irgendwo in Berlin Somewhere in Berlin Gerhard Lamprecht 23.0 2 138 :imdb:
50 La bataille du rail The Battle of the Rails René Clément 22.5 3 924 :imdb:
50 The Captive Heart Basil Dearden 22.5 3 1,013 :imdb:
50 Eugenia Grandet Eugenie Grandet Mario Soldati 22.5 2 78 :imdb:
53 Bedlam Mark Robson 22.0 3 3,877 :imdb:
54 The Private Life of a Cat Alexander Hammid, Maya Deren 21.0 5 953 :imdb:
54 The Beast with Five Fingers Robert Florey 21.0 2 2,579 :imdb:
54 Il bandito The Bandit Alberto Lattuada 21.0 2 342 :imdb:
54 Child of Divorce Richard Fleischer 21.0 2 242 :imdb:
54 Margie Henry King 21.0 2 777 :imdb:
54 Piccadilly Incident Herbert Wilcox 21.0 2 227 :imdb:
54 Waga koi seshi otome The Girl I Loved Keisuke Kinoshita 21.0 2 96 :imdb:


Films that received 1st-place votes
(ranked in order of number of first-place votes received, then by total points received)

7 – It’s a Wonderful Life – Good_Will_Harding, gromit82, maxwelldeux, OldAle1, ororama, PUNQ, Rufus-T
6 - The Best Years of Our Lives – blocho, gunnar, LaTierri, Leopardi, timshelboy, zzzorf
5 - The Big Sleep – beavis, Gordon_Gekko, jeff_v, Lonewolf2003, MoTH
5 - La belle et la bête / Beauty and the Beast – beasterne, brokenface, hurluberlu, lineuphere, St. Gloede
5 - A Matter of Life and Death – AB537, Gorro, jal90, RogerTheMovieManiac88, zomgmouse
3 - My Darling Clementine – insomnius, smoover, Teproc
2 - Sciuscià / Shoeshine – filmbantha, Mysterious Dude
2 - Unter den Brücken / Under the Bridges – Dolwphin, joachimt
2 - Paisà / Paisan – klaus78, Opio
2 - The Spiral Staircase – peeptoad, sol
2 - Panique – rnilsson19, Traveller
1 - Notorious - lapluiedete
1 - The Postman Always Rings Twice - Caracortada
1 - Partie de campagne / A Day in the Country – outdoorcats
1 - Canyon Passage – 1SO
1 - Humoresque (Jean Negulesco) – DudeLanez (4 ballots, 19 points)

The following voters submitted unranked ballots:
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From the predecessor poll

On the IMDb Classic Film board, a version of this poll for 1946 was conducted in 2011.
The top 29 films that time around were:

01. … 38 ….. 555.0 ... Notorious … Alfred Hitchcock (this time: 5)
02. … 35 ….. 508.5 ... It’s a Wonderful Life … Frank Capra (3)
03. … 35 ….. 495.0 ... The Big Sleep … Howard Hawks (1)
04. … 31 ….. 433.5 ... The Best Years of Our Lives … William Wyler (4)
05. … 30 ….. 429.0 ... A Matter of Life and Death / Stairway to Heaven … Powell & Pressburger (6)
06. … 30 ….. 428.0 ... Beauty and the Beast (La belle et la bete) … Jean Cocteau (2)
07. … 29 ….. 400.5 ... Great Expectations … David Lean (9)
08. … 29 ….. 390.5 ... My Darling Clementine … John Ford (7)
09. … 31 ….. 370.0 ... The Killers … Robert Siodmak (8)
10. … 27 ….. 301.5 ... The Postman Always Rings Twice … Tay Garnett (11)
11. … 26 ….. 300.0 ... Gilda … Charles Vidor (14)
12. … 19 ….. 254.5 ... Shoeshine (Sciuscia) … Vittorio De Sica (10)
13. … 19 ….. 232.0 ... Paisan (Paisa) … Roberto Rossellini (13)
14. … 15 ….. 185.5 ... The Yearling … Clarence Brown (1 ballot, 12 points)
15. … 20 ….. 176.5 ... Duel in the Sun … King Vidor (23)
16. … 18 ….. 168.5 ... The Strange Love of Martha Ivers … Lewis Milestone (22)
17. … 12 ….. 148.5 ... The Dark Corner … Henry Hathaway (1 ballot, 9 points)
18. … 14 ….. 143.0 ... The Blue Dahlia … George Marshall (36)
19. … 12 ….. 135.5 ... Green for Danger … Sidney Gilliat (20)
20. … 10 ….. 122.5 ... Cluny Brown … Ernst Lubitsch (17)
21. … 10 ….. 120.0 ... Song of the South … Foster & Jackson (4 ballots, 13 points)
22. ….09 .... 114.0 ... The Murderers Are Among Us (Die Morder sind Unter uns) … Wolfgang Staudte (19)
23. … 11 ….. 112.0 ... Humoresque … Jean Negulesco (4 ballots, 19 points)
24. … 11 …… 93.5 .... The Razor’s Edge … Edmund Goulding (26)
25. … 08 …… 84.5 .... To Each His Own … Mitchell Leisen (31)
26. … 07 …… 84.0 .... No Regrets for Our Youth (Waga seishun ni kuina shi) … Akira Kurosawa (33)
27. … 10 …… 83.0 .... The Stranger … Orson Welles (18)
28. ….08 …… 76.5 .... A Stolen Life … Curtis Bernhardt (2 ballots, 14 points)
29. … 08 …… 72.0 .... The Harvey Girls … George Sidney (no ballots)

And the awards go to …

Oscars
3. It’s a Wonderful Life
4. The Best Years of Our Lives (winner)
26. The Razor’s Edge
83. The Yearling (1 ballot, 12 points)

xx. Henry V (listed as a 1944 film by IMDb; placed 29th in our poll for 1944, conducted in 2020)

Cannes
In 1946, the top prize at Cannes, then known as the Grand Prix, was shared among 11 different films, each from a different country, but most of which were not originally released in that year.

74. La symphonie pastorale (3 ballots, 15 points)
120. Muzi bez krídel (1 ballot, 3 points)
zz. Neecha Nagar (no ballots)

xx. Brief Encounter (listed as a 1945 film by IMDb; placed 1st in our poll for 1945, conducted in 2020)
xx. Die letzte Chance (listed as a 1945 film by IMDb; placed 51st in our poll)
xx. Hets (listed as a 1944 film by IMDb; placed 13th in our poll)
xx. The Lost Weekend (listed as a 1945 film by IMDb; placed 4th in our poll)
xx. María Candelaria (Xochimilco) (listed as a 1944 film by IMDb; placed 54th in our poll)
xx. Roma città aperta (listed as a 1945 film by IMDb; placed 3rd in our poll)
xx. De røde enge (listed as a 1945 film by IMDb; in our poll, it would have ranked 121st with 1 ballot, 6 points)
xx. Velikiy perelom (listed as a 1945 film by IMDb; no votes in our poll)

Venice
xx. The Southerner (listed as a 1945 film by IMDb; placed 19th in our poll)

Shorts
The following films under 45 minutes long made the main list:

21. Partie de campagne / A Day in the Country
32. Ritual in Transfigured Time
37. Fragment of Seeking
41. The Great Piggy Bank Robbery
41. The Big Snooze
48. Hair-Raising Hare
54. The Private Life of a Cat

Your mileage may vary
The following titles are well-known (over 4,000 votes) and reasonably well-liked (average rating of 7.0 or higher) by IMDb users, but they didn't make a big impression here:

Song of the South (over 13,000 votes, 4 ballots, 13 points)
A Night in Casablanca (over 6,000 votes, no ballots)
The Yearling (over 5,000 votes, 1 ballot, 12 points)
The Dark Corner (over 4,000 votes, 1 ballot, 9 points)
Humoresque (over 4,000 votes, 4 ballots, 19 points)

The next poll will be for 1985, and the one after that will be for 1920.

Thanks to everyone who voted!
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The results can be found as an ICM list at: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+ ... /gromit82/

A list of all films voted for can be found as an IMDb list at: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls571268878/

Votes for the following film were not counted because it is not listed by IMDb as being from 1946:
Ivan Groznyy. Skaz vtoroy: Boyarskiy zagovor (1958)
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Our most American (English) Top 10 so far?
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It depends what you consider noir, but by my count that's 16 out of 60 movies on the list that are films noir.
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Torgo wrote: November 27th, 2021, 1:34 am Our most American (English) Top 10 so far?
Someone with more historical knowledge of the era would know better than me, but is this partially a product of the war? Was production at European studios still limited by postwar scarcity?
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Torgo wrote: November 27th, 2021, 1:34 am Our most American (English) Top 10 so far?
I think 1940 tops it, with all of the Top 32 films being in English (or, if they lacked dialogue, were at least from English-speaking countries).

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Philip Marlowe won the poll. I actually saw more films for this poll the usual. There were a few I always wanted to watch and now finally got to. Also, despite mostly English language films at the top, interested to see, though not that surprising, of the big jump for Beauty and the Beast since the last poll at CFB.
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Gilda would have been my #1 had I voted but I couldn’t justify myself putting 5 favorites lol
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Hawks topping a poll? I didn't expect to see that anymore!

And Käutner showing up! I had already made Spanish subtitles for Under the Bridges in 2011, but by then it was preaching in the desert...

There is still hope for cinema. :)
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blocho wrote: November 27th, 2021, 1:47 am
Torgo wrote: November 27th, 2021, 1:34 am Our most American (English) Top 10 so far?
Someone with more historical knowledge of the era would know better than me, but is this partially a product of the war? Was production at European studios still limited by postwar scarcity?
Yeah, it was because of the war. Society in Europe was in ruins in many ways. The little money there was was used to rebuild continent, so not much left over for ambitious movie productions. Plus it took some time before the studios themselves were in full operating condition, be it for political, employees not yet returned from war duty, or whatever else would result in them having to rebuild the movie industry. It took several years for the bombarded countries to get back to normal, and it didn't really pick up until around 1948. At least that's how it felt to me going through those years. In short, 1946: still rebuilding society, 1947: starting on productions again, 1948 in full operation.... or something like that.
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Out of the Top 20, I've only not seen the two Italian ones and Green for Danger. Normally there are a lot more that I've missed. I should prioritze those three.
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Thanks for the hard work as usual!

The most exciting part of the results for me is just how close Beauty and the Beast came to winning. We're talking one extra ballot or a couple of minor edits in the submitted lists - which were almost identical - 39 for The Big Sleep and 36 for Beauty and the Beast - and that despite the former having for times the votes on IMDb.

Also: both of these titles beating It's A Wonderful Life feels like a huge upset - especially when Notorious got that upset last time.

A Matter of Life and Death not doing better is a slight surprise, but then the competition for these top spots is fierce.

Under the Bridges reaching 12th is a great showcase on how word of mouth on the forum can have a major impact. I did not vote for it myself, but a thoroughly good film.

As for the stats:

45/60
Position of number 1: #2

Top unseen films:

28. La otra
32. Ritual in Transfigured Time (Short)
34. The Jolson Story
37. Fragment of Seeking (Short)
42. The Big Snooze (Short)

Despite not generally being drawn to shorts I quite enjoy what I have seen from Maya Deren, so Ritual in Transfigured Time may just be one I jump on "shortly" ( :banana: ). La Otra is a film I have been meaning to see for a while - and I see now that there has been a recent restoration and possibly a blu-ray release. It will definitely jump up my watchlist.

Of the other unseens, I'm happy to spot Mario Soldati's Eugenia Grandet. I thoroughly enjoy what I have seen from Soldati and this is a needed reminder to see more.
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Angel Glez wrote: November 27th, 2021, 10:15 am Hawks topping a poll? I didn't expect to see that anymore!
This is, in fact, the first time I can find a Howard Hawks film ranked #1 in the Year by Year Polls here or in the predecessor poll on the IMDb Classic Film board. To Have and Have Not ranked #3 for 1944 here, and Bringing Up Baby ranked #2 in the predecessor poll for 1938 conducted in 2014. But if Hawks ever won before, it was before I started keeping track.
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St. Gloede wrote: November 27th, 2021, 7:53 pm
The most exciting part of the results for me is just how close Beauty and the Beast came to winning. We're talking one extra ballot or a couple of minor edits in the submitted lists - which were almost identical - 39 for The Big Sleep and 36 for Beauty and the Beast - and that despite the former having for times the votes on IMDb.

Also: both of these titles beating It's A Wonderful Life feels like a huge upset - especially when Notorious got that upset last time.

Not sure why it's surprising that IAWL didn't win; while it is on more official lists (30) than any of the others, the other films in the top 5 are all on at least 21; and while it's the highest-ranked film on TSP (83), those others are all ranked not much lower, in the 100s or 200s mostly. So you might think it'd be the odds-on favorite - if this forum were representative of typical cineaste taste, whatever that is. And that would make sense given the forum's overall focus on lists. But I think we have a group that is rather resistant to Capra's brand of sentimentality and hokiness, and noirish darkness in particular makes sense to beat it out (as there's no horror film of great repute this year).

I've seen exactly the same number of films that you have, 50, though my highest unseen is #12, which I intended to get to but didn't. After that it's all the way down to 34 for the next unseen, I guess I've done a good job of hitting all the mainstream choices for this year.

Didn't know about La otra having a BD release, do you have a link for that? I did a quick search and didn't come up with it, would like to get a better copy than I have in any case.
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I would also have bet on It's a Wonderful Life winning, though The Big Sleep makes sense too. I certainly don't think it's particularly surprising for Hawks to win a poll, it's not like he's been cancelled (not that this forum cares too much about that, Polanski and Allen do just fine in our polls) or anything, he's still quite popular as far as Studio-era directors go.

In our Favorite Movies poll, It's a Wonderful Life ranks #56 to La belle et la bête's #137. The Big Sleep is way behind at #355, behind The Best Years of Our Lives (#177), A Matter of Life and Death (#285) and Notorious (#336). The 1940s poll gives out the same result as this one though, so I guess The Big Sleep benefits from reduced competition, presumably because everyone kinda likes it enough to have it in the lower places of their ballot at least, whereas the other two are more divisive, people either love them or don't like them enough to include them.
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I was just speaking to a colleague last week about It's a Wonderful Life. He told me that he loved Christmas movies, and that It's a Wonderful Life is his favorite in the genre (not an uncommon opinion, from what I gather). I asked him if he liked Capra's other movies. He hadn't seen any. I asked him if he liked any other Jimmy Stewart movies. He hadn't seen any.

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OldAle1 wrote: November 27th, 2021, 8:56 pm Didn't know about La otra having a BD release, do you have a link for that? I did a quick search and didn't come up with it, would like to get a better copy than I have in any case.
I'm glad I waited until the film was restored before I saw it. I can help you out with procuring the film.
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:cheers:

No great surprises

Bit sad (but I guess given less Hollywood classic focused posters maybe inevitable) that DUEL IN THE SUN demoted - but heartened by unexpected admiration for CANYON PASSAGE, which I've always thought an unappreciated obscurity

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blocho wrote: November 27th, 2021, 9:19 pm I was just speaking to a colleague last week about It's a Wonderful Life. He told me that he loved Christmas movies, and that It's a Wonderful Life is his favorite in the genre (not an uncommon opinion, from what I gather). I asked him if he liked Capra's other movies. He hadn't seen any. I asked him if he liked any other Jimmy Stewart movies. He hadn't seen any.

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Murder would probably be ok in this instance, but you might start out with just a good thrashing. Hmm, I probably wouldn't bother asking what his favorite version of A Christmas Carol is...
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it's not like he's been cancelled (not that this forum cares too much about that, Polanski and Allen do just fine in our polls) or anything, he's still quite popular as far as Studio-era directors go.

Re Cancelling/wokeness... is it just this poll's anti musical track record working against it...or is the Minstrel Blackface an issue for JOLSON not doing too well??

EDIT - just noticed it did better than in the 2011 poll!. :woot: so I guess the answer to my question is a resounding NO! :D :D
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OldAle1 wrote: November 27th, 2021, 8:56 pm
St. Gloede wrote: November 27th, 2021, 7:53 pm
The most exciting part of the results for me is just how close Beauty and the Beast came to winning. We're talking one extra ballot or a couple of minor edits in the submitted lists - which were almost identical - 39 for The Big Sleep and 36 for Beauty and the Beast - and that despite the former having for times the votes on IMDb.

Also: both of these titles beating It's A Wonderful Life feels like a huge upset - especially when Notorious got that upset last time.

Not sure why it's surprising that IAWL didn't win; while it is on more official lists (30) than any of the others, the other films in the top 5 are all on at least 21; and while it's the highest-ranked film on TSP (83), those others are all ranked not much lower, in the 100s or 200s mostly. So you might think it'd be the odds-on favorite - if this forum were representative of typical cineaste taste, whatever that is. And that would make sense given the forum's overall focus on lists. But I think we have a group that is rather resistant to Capra's brand of sentimentality and hokiness, and noirish darkness in particular makes sense to beat it out (as there's no horror film of great repute this year).
I think it is the extreme scope and popularity of It's a Wonderful Life that makes it feel bigger. You can for instance see how it has 5 to 17 times the amount of IMDb votes as the winners. The fact that it was on less ballots than both is rather telling given it is one of the film "everyone" has seen and it is generally held up as one of the greatest films of all time - more so than the others - though, as your stats show - not by that much - even though 31 to 21 is a pretty significant toplist gap.
I've seen exactly the same number of films that you have, 50, though my highest unseen is #12, which I intended to get to but didn't. After that it's all the way down to 34 for the next unseen, I guess I've done a good job of hitting all the mainstream choices for this year.
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And knowing you I can see you falling completely in love with Under the Bridges (and Kautner in general).
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timshelboy wrote: November 27th, 2021, 9:46 pm it's not like he's been cancelled (not that this forum cares too much about that, Polanski and Allen do just fine in our polls) or anything, he's still quite popular as far as Studio-era directors go.
Polanski, Allen et cetera et cetera lol, lots of homophobic, racist, Stalinist, and fascist movies, movies with animal torture and murder amongst top poll performers too. Hell I have voted for Riefenstahl and Polanski movies myself.
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blocho wrote: November 27th, 2021, 9:19 pm I was just speaking to a colleague last week about It's a Wonderful Life. He told me that he loved Christmas movies, and that It's a Wonderful Life is his favorite in the genre (not an uncommon opinion, from what I gather). I asked him if he liked Capra's other movies. He hadn't seen any. I asked him if he liked any other Jimmy Stewart movies. He hadn't seen any.

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Honestly, isn't this just a great opportunity to prosletize about the beauty of cinema? If he loves It's a Wonderful Life hell be a ducker for so many classic Hollywood films - and once he's into that, hit him with some harder stuff. Frank Capra is a gateway drug that leads to Howard Hawks and Nicholas Ray, which leads to Jean-Luc Godard which leads to... let's just say we'll have him consume Lettrist cinema by the end of 2022.
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St. Gloede wrote: November 28th, 2021, 8:20 pm
blocho wrote: November 27th, 2021, 9:19 pm I was just speaking to a colleague last week about It's a Wonderful Life. He told me that he loved Christmas movies, and that It's a Wonderful Life is his favorite in the genre (not an uncommon opinion, from what I gather). I asked him if he liked Capra's other movies. He hadn't seen any. I asked him if he liked any other Jimmy Stewart movies. He hadn't seen any.

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Honestly, isn't this just a great opportunity to prosletize about the beauty of cinema? If he loves It's a Wonderful Life hell be a ducker for so many classic Hollywood films - and once he's into that, hit him with some harder stuff. Frank Capra is a gateway drug that leads to Howard Hawks and Nicholas Ray, which leads to Jean-Luc Godard which leads to... let's just say we'll have him consume Lettrist cinema by the end of 2022.
my younger brother has seen the Godfather over a 100 times, it's been a gateway drug to nothing lol. I gave him the leads, Il Gattopardo should have been the next step. He saw me looking at a Pasolini still and said, oh that's Franco Citti from the Godfather. I'm not convinced the breadth of the cinema is for everyone lol.
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matthewscott8 wrote: November 28th, 2021, 8:01 pm
timshelboy wrote: November 27th, 2021, 9:46 pm it's not like he's been cancelled (not that this forum cares too much about that, Polanski and Allen do just fine in our polls) or anything, he's still quite popular as far as Studio-era directors go.
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Polanski, Allen et cetera et cetera lol, lots of homophobic, racist, Stalinist, and fascist movies, movies with animal torture and murder amongst top poll performers too. Hell I have voted for Riefenstahl and Polanski movies myself.
Animal torture? In a Woody or a Polanski >>>(i'm bigger on former than latter but have no memory of tortured animals in either ... thought that was the province of Rene Cardona Jr (and TINTORERA would most likely make my 77 ballot)And I failed to pick up on much homophobia

I mean the following image does for me raise issues of consent..... but "torture" feels a little de trop... :rolleyes: :P :D

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timshelboy wrote: November 28th, 2021, 11:23 pm
matthewscott8 wrote: November 28th, 2021, 8:01 pm
timshelboy wrote: November 27th, 2021, 9:46 pm it's not like he's been cancelled (not that this forum cares too much about that, Polanski and Allen do just fine in our polls) or anything, he's still quite popular as far as Studio-era directors go.
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Polanski, Allen et cetera et cetera lol, lots of homophobic, racist, Stalinist, and fascist movies, movies with animal torture and murder amongst top poll performers too. Hell I have voted for Riefenstahl and Polanski movies myself.
Animal torture? In a Woody or a Polanski >>>(i'm bigger on former than latter but have no memory of tortured animals in either ... thought that was the province of Rene Cardona Jr (and TINTORERA would most likely make my 77 ballot)And I failed to pick up on much homophobia

I mean the following image does for me raise issues of consent..... but "torture" feels a little de trop... :rolleyes: :P :D

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i don't know how I'm going to unsee that lmao.
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Btw I didn't vote on this one because my knowledge is not deep, but it makes me feel good to see The Big Sleep up there at the top.
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St. Gloede wrote: November 28th, 2021, 8:20 pm
blocho wrote: November 27th, 2021, 9:19 pm I was just speaking to a colleague last week about It's a Wonderful Life. He told me that he loved Christmas movies, and that It's a Wonderful Life is his favorite in the genre (not an uncommon opinion, from what I gather). I asked him if he liked Capra's other movies. He hadn't seen any. I asked him if he liked any other Jimmy Stewart movies. He hadn't seen any.

:facepalm:
Honestly, isn't this just a great opportunity to prosletize about the beauty of cinema? If he loves It's a Wonderful Life hell be a ducker for so many classic Hollywood films - and once he's into that, hit him with some harder stuff. Frank Capra is a gateway drug that leads to Howard Hawks and Nicholas Ray, which leads to Jean-Luc Godard which leads to... let's just say we'll have him consume Lettrist cinema by the end of 2022.
It certainly is a great opportunity. I left him with a strong recommendation to see Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, which seems like a safe bet if he loved It's a Wonderful Life. That being said, if you think I'm eventually going to steer him to Godard, you're very mistaken.
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I didn't like enough films to vote in this one but if I had Unter den Brücken and Gilda would've fared a little better :(
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