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#500(NEW) ...No Lies (1973)
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Directed by: Mitchell Block
(264.19 Pts, 9 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–1–2
History: 50088087110278794376186721269←1065
ICheckMovies: 292 Checks , 22 Favourites , 1 Official list
List of Voters:
PeacefulAnarchy (3)
AdamH (39)
Lilarcor (88)
Jimi Antiloop (208)
jlfitz (280)
sebby (296)
Perception de Ambiguity (729)
Hunziker (NA)
RogerTheMovieManiac156 (NA)

#499(⇩41, #458) La donna del lago (1965)
[The Possessed]

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Directed by: Luigi Bazzoni, Franco Rossellini
(264.22 Pts, 11 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–1–2
History: 499458108117372469518654753325NA←NA
ICheckMovies: 141 Checks , 15 Favourites , 1 Official list
List of Voters:
peeptoad (9)
zuma (42)
klaus78 (100)
Perception de Ambiguity (118)
TraverseTown (144)
sol (148)
Traveller (154)
OldAle1 (249)
filmbantha (351)
insomnius (NA)
Ivan0716 (NA)
#498(NEW) The Painted Bird (2019)
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Directed by: Václav Marhoul
(264.71 Pts, 7 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–0–3
History: 498NANANANANANANANA←NA
ICheckMovies: 213 Checks , 15 Favourites , 0 Official lists
List of Voters:
Gorro (27)
cayh (35)
tommy_leazaq (49)
kongs_speech (81)
klaus78 (161)
dinah (NA)
Ivan0716 (NA)
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Rank and checks before the 2021 update:

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Let's see how this affects things. :woot:
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Hey alright, The Painted Bird! A new check for me, and one that I voted for, even!
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I'm at 218/500 and #63, and I've had a good feeling about how results will go, which probably means I'm wrong and will lose 20+ checks. :lol:

Anyway glad to see it starting, I'm at 1/3 (seen and voted for) to begin with.
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Everything seems to be fine, List of voters as well (l)
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#6 with 440/500 seen
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I'm 15 @ 392/500 for now ..
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#497(⇩90, #407) Os Verdes Anos (1963)
[The Green Years]

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Directed by: Paulo Rocha
(265.19 Pts, 10 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–0–2
History: 497407589292263313493508580←959
ICheckMovies: 199 Checks , 31 Favourites , 3 Official lists
List of Voters:
zhangalan (14)
Angel Glez (34)
Dimitris Psachos (77)
klaus78 (103)
Gorro (288)
tommy_leazaq (322)
AHALE80 (NA)
dinah (NA)
Ivan0716 (NA)
RogerTheMovieManiac212 (NA)
#496(NEW) Utamaro o meguru gonin no onna (1946)
[Utamaro and His Five Women]

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Directed by: Kenji Mizoguchi
(265.28 Pts, 8 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–0–3
History: 49611911568512142134143147812462432←1890
ICheckMovies: 308 Checks , 16 Favourites , 1 Official list
List of Voters:
Mysterious Dude (19)
RolandKirkSunglasses (32)
murnaunosferatu (44)
BaalMan (60)
St. Gloede (122)
jeff_v (140)
PeacefulAnarchy (256)
burneyfan (272)
#495(NEW) Outcast of the Islands (1951)
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Directed by: Carol Reed
(265.42 Pts, 4 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–1–3
History: 49554891526169151064114114701003←1862
ICheckMovies: 184 Checks , 8 Favourites , 1 Official list
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Cippenham (4)
AB537 (13)
frbrown (16)
brokenface (241)
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I’m at 45/500 on the current list. Hopefully I hit 50/500 on the new one 😅
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Curious to how it affects things, but i'll lose three checks minimum as they went over the required maximum 400 checks limit. And I suspect for at least 2, maybe 3 it will be hard to be named in this list again. Although, maybe a bunch of movies will get in the list again that i've seen, who knows. There is at least 1 i suspect will be in now, and I think there are a number of other movies that have a decent chance.

I'll probably lose a bit of checks tho. But it's possible i'll watch a few next year.
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TraverseTown wrote: October 1st, 2021, 2:29 pm I’m at 45/500 on the current list. Hopefully I hit 50/500 on the new one 😅
49/500, so I'd like to get over 50 as well.
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:banana: Results! :banana:

I’m at 7/500 on the current list—nowhere to go but up?
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Eeey, results! Looking forward to all the new movies I get to watch. :banana:

The Painted Bird have been on my watchlist for a while. Looks really, really interesting. :)
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beasterne wrote: October 1st, 2021, 2:47 pm :banana: Results! :banana:

I’m at 7/500 on the current list—nowhere to go but up?
I've checked your account. I was kinda surprised, because I thought I would have by far the lowest amount of seen films from this list. But i do better on this list than you do. The weird thing is you have checked more than twice as much movies than i did, and even weirder I have 7 official lists where i'm in the top 2000, and you have 141 official lists where you're ranked in the top 2000. Probably because of all those must-seen movies i still haven't seen :lol:

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Belgian Film Award - Best Film (but this is because i'm from Belgium)
Cinema Tropical's Best Latin American Films 2000-2009
Cinema Tropical's Best Latin American Films 2010-2019
ICM Forum 500 <400
KOFA's 100 Korean Films
Korean Screen's 100 Greatest Korean Films
Yle News's Best Finnish Films
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#494(⇩236, #258) The Last of Sheila (1973)
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History: 494258712431503408102212437620←NA
ICheckMovies: 391 Checks , 35 Favourites , 1 Official list
List of Voters:
sol (3)
TalkingElvish (62)
Ebbywebby (90)
tommy_leazaq (111)
mightysparks (160)
Fergenaprido (205)
Armoreska (235)
sebby (278)
72aicm (309)
AHALE80 (NA)
flavo5000 (NA)
Ivan0716 (NA)
#493(NEW) Nagaya shinshiroku (1947)
[Record of a Tenement Gentleman]

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Directed by: Yasujirô Ozu
(265.79 Pts, 9 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–0–2
History: 493759415491613624853331443←354
ICheckMovies: 392 Checks , 31 Favourites , 2 Official lists
List of Voters:
Ebbywebby (19)
cayado-coro (23)
murnaunosferatu (67)
sushantv10 (101)
BaalMan (103)
Melvelet (123)
burneyfan (243)
St. Gloede (279)
perceval (354)
#492(NEW) The 'Maggie' (1954)
[High and Dry]

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Directed by: Alexander Mackendrick
(265.86 Pts, 6 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–0–3
History: 49266823968518341151123911334611←3089
ICheckMovies: 178 Checks , 12 Favourites , 0 Official lists
List of Voters:
Mysterious Dude (14)
cayado-coro (25)
AdamH (33)
Knaldskalle (62)
Nathan Treadway (314)
zomgmouse (570)
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BTW, I'm going to fix that damn https images not showing up issue either tonight or tomorrow. I know I said this like a year ago, but it's going to happen this time.
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PeacefulAnarchy wrote: October 1st, 2021, 2:56 pm #494(⇩236, #258) The Last of Sheila (1973)
Directed by: Herbert Ross
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History: 494258712431503408102212437620←NA
ICheckMovies: 391 Checks , 35 Favourites , 1 Official list
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mightysparks (160)
Fergenaprido (205)
Armoreska (235)
sebby (278)
72aicm (309)
AHALE80 (NA)
flavo5000 (NA)
Ivan0716 (NA)
I'm glad that my vote managed to stop this from falling off the list altogether but what a massive plummet. So many voters too, but only one Top 50 vote.
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PeacefulAnarchy wrote: October 1st, 2021, 2:57 pm BTW, I'm going to fix that damn https images not showing up issue either tonight or tomorrow. I know I said this like a year ago, but it's going to happen this time.
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I hate to be that guy PA, but my list was first 250 ranked. The Last of Sheila have my vote at 309 when it should be unranked.
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72aicm wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:04 pm I hate to be that guy PA, but my list was first 250 ranked. The Last of Sheila have my vote at 309.
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sol wrote: October 1st, 2021, 2:59 pm
PeacefulAnarchy wrote: October 1st, 2021, 2:56 pm #494(⇩236, #258) The Last of Sheila (1973)
Directed by: Herbert Ross
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History: 494258712431503408102212437620←NA
ICheckMovies: 391 Checks , 35 Favourites , 1 Official list
List of Voters:
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Ebbywebby (90)
tommy_leazaq (111)
mightysparks (160)
Fergenaprido (205)
Armoreska (235)
sebby (278)
72aicm (309)
AHALE80 (NA)
flavo5000 (NA)
Ivan0716 (NA)
I'm glad that my vote managed to stop this from falling off the list altogether but what a massive plummet. So many voters too, but only one Top 50 vote.
That's one that needs to go on my re-watch list, good reminder.
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hmmm You mean i could/should have "NA" every of your vote above 250 ?

I did that for one voter that had grouped after an ranked part ... and for unranked list obviously.
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Tim2460 wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:14 pm hmmm You mean i could/should have "NA" every of your vote above 250 ?
Yes. Well if every movie from my list from 251-430 gets the same amount of points it doesn't really matter (other than for aesthetic reasons) , but I’m not sure if that’s the case here?
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#491(NEW) Sunshine on Leith (2013)
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Directed by: Dexter Fletcher
(266.09 Pts, 6 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–0–2
History: 49112067347NA39283928NANANA←NA
ICheckMovies: 259 Checks , 21 Favourites , 0 Official lists
List of Voters:
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#490(NEW) Daguerreotypes (1975)
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Directed by: Agnès Varda
(266.25 Pts, 7 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–0–2
History: 4901373486522528309942255196190NA←NA
ICheckMovies: 220 Checks , 22 Favourites , 0 Official lists
List of Voters:
lineuphere (16)
TalkingElvish (25)
russa03 (67)
Odradek (99)
Wonderful Rainbow (106)
brokenface (187)
dinah (NA)
#489(NEW) Vitalina Varela (2019)
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Directed by: Pedro Costa
(266.49 Pts, 7 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–2–2
History: 489NANANANANANANANA←NA
ICheckMovies: 251 Checks , 16 Favourites , 3 Official lists
List of Voters:
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klaus78 (10)
marienbad (93)
Melvelet (126)
zomgmouse (686)
AHALE80 (NA)
Ivan0716 (NA)
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Holy shit it's happening it's real, guys this is not a test THE RESULTS ARE HAPPENING!
72aicm wrote: October 1st, 2021, 2:53 pm The Painted Bird have been on my watchlist for a while. Looks really, really interesting. :)
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72aicm wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:04 pm I hate to be that guy PA, but my list was first 250 ranked. The Last of Sheila have my vote at 309 when it should be unranked.
STOP THE COUNTDOWN!! :circle:


I'm at 442/500, btw. Unranked, but would be #5 if I was ranked.
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72aicm wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:18 pm
Tim2460 wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:14 pm hmmm You mean i could/should have "NA" every of your vote above 250 ?
Yes. Well if every movie from my list from 251-430 gets the same amount of points it doesn't really matter (other than for aesthetic reasons) , but I’m not sure if that’s the case here?
No problem with the scoring itself... it's 'just' the way I built the scores between () for the voters list. I never modified the scores above the ranked threshold before... But I could :folded:
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Lakigigar wrote: October 1st, 2021, 2:54 pm
beasterne wrote: October 1st, 2021, 2:47 pm :banana: Results! :banana:

I’m at 7/500 on the current list—nowhere to go but up?
I've checked your account. I was kinda surprised, because I thought I would have by far the lowest amount of seen films from this list. But i do better on this list than you do. The weird thing is you have checked more than twice as much movies than i did, and even weirder I have 7 official lists where i'm in the top 2000, and you have 141 official lists where you're ranked in the top 2000. Probably because of all those must-seen movies i still haven't seen :lol:

These are the lists i do better in than you do (only 7):
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Belgian Film Award - Best Film (but this is because i'm from Belgium)
Cinema Tropical's Best Latin American Films 2000-2009
Cinema Tropical's Best Latin American Films 2010-2019
ICM Forum 500 <400
KOFA's 100 Korean Films
Korean Screen's 100 Greatest Korean Films
Yle News's Best Finnish Films
It really comes down to what interests me in the movies that I choose to watch. My big motivator (so far) in my cinephile journey is, "I want to watch the movies I should have already watched." How I define "should" is subjective, but I've found that I generally lean towards 1. Movies on many official lists 2. Movies on "best of" lists 3. Movies on aggregated opinion lists (like reddit, ICM most checked, IMDb lists, etc). Then, as I watch movies generally, I see which lists I'm doing well on and try to complete them if I can (for instance, I'm 3 movies away from finishing the BBC Comedy list, even though I only really started focusing on it when I had already seen 80/101).

This selection process is good for my average list rank, and awards ranks, because I'm prioritizing movies on a lot of lists so I'm making progress on many lists simultaneously. But it is definitely not a good approach for the 500<400 or DtC lists, because those are lists that are by definition little seen and often lead to them being on fewer official lists. My approach also doesn't usually lead to high ranks on country or genre-specific lists, because how I approach picking movies leads to a generalist rather than a specialist outcome.

At some point I would like to prioritize watching films on the 500<400 list. However, I am much more motivated to seek out every film on 10+ lists I haven't seen, for example, and there are 0/500 of such films on the 500<400 list and 9/1100 on the DtC list (and I've seen 7/9 of those). So at some point I imagine I'll watch more of these films, but it will still likely be a few years off before I start to explore seriously.

I'll still participate in the poll however--I like throwing my support behind those few films I've seen that are eligible!
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Tim2460 wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:48 pm
72aicm wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:18 pm
Tim2460 wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:14 pm hmmm You mean i could/should have "NA" every of your vote above 250 ?
Yes. Well if every movie from my list from 251-430 gets the same amount of points it doesn't really matter (other than for aesthetic reasons) , but I’m not sure if that’s the case here?
No problem with the scoring itself... it's 'just' the way I built the scores between () for the voters list. I never modified the scores above the ranked threshold before... But I could :folded:
OK, I can fix the display later then. If the scores are fine I'll continue.
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Great to see No Lies and that pretty underrated Mizoguchi entering the list!

Wasn't that keen on Painted Bird, but I suppose it has its fair share of admirers...

I expected Green Years somewhat higher, one of those neglected, 60s masterpieces!

I have to say, in spite of the outcome, that we're talking about a list of plenty masterful stuff, ranging from masterpieces (probably half the list) to sublime discoveries to pleasant/decent additions, which, simultaneously, bring different perspectives to the cine-table.
I firmly believe it's one of the top 10 best "general" lists of Icheckmovies, top 5 I'd even say, of similar spirit and bravado like the Icheckmovies Most Favorite one! (yes, I'm serious about my choice, especially if the Most Favorite expands to...top 500, like the Hidden Gems ;) )
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PeacefulAnarchy wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:52 pm
Tim2460 wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:48 pm
72aicm wrote: October 1st, 2021, 3:18 pm
Yes. Well if every movie from my list from 251-430 gets the same amount of points it doesn't really matter (other than for aesthetic reasons) , but I’m not sure if that’s the case here?
No problem with the scoring itself... it's 'just' the way I built the scores between () for the voters list. I never modified the scores above the ranked threshold before... But I could :folded:
OK, I can fix the display later then. If the scores are fine I'll continue.
Nice! Sorry for the false alarm.
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#488(NEW) Romanze in Moll (1943)
[Romance in a Minor Key]

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Directed by: Helmut Käutner
(267.57 Pts, 11 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–0–2
History: 488566909105718732245228113861822←2332
ICheckMovies: 98 Checks , 10 Favourites , 2 Official lists
List of Voters:
cayado-coro (34)
tobias (34)
rnilsson19 (59)
Odradek (69)
zuma (137)
beavis (165)
lineuphere (267)
St. Gloede (480)
Perception de Ambiguity (1343)
insomnius (NA)
Ivan0716 (NA)
#487(NEW) Lucía (1968)
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Directed by: Humberto Solás
(267.71 Pts, 10 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–0–1
History: 4875053286125023752566391548←2098
ICheckMovies: 399 Checks , 25 Favourites , 6 Official lists
List of Voters:
Melvelet (15)
murnaunosferatu (57)
hurluberlu (66)
Gorro (97)
joachimt (136)
russa03 (148)
lineuphere (213)
Perception de Ambiguity (241)
tommy_leazaq (337)
amechsner (NA)
#486(NEW) Tilaï (1990)
[The Law]

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Directed by: Idrissa Ouedraogo
(267.74 Pts, 15 Votes) , Top 1–10–50: 0–0–1
History: 486553967277116921102700664719←3593
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Results! :party:

200/500, ranked #77
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One last year for Lucia. 399 checks!
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#485(NEW) Mandabi (1968)
[The Money Order]

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Directed by: Ousmane Sembene
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#484(⇩254, #230) Nayak (1966)
[The Hero]

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Directed by: Satyajit Ray
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#483(⇩219, #264) 4 Little Girls (1997)
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#482(NEW) Postava k podpírání (1963)
[Joseph Kilian]

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Directed by: Pavel Jurácek, Jan Schmidt
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#481(⇩334, #147) Western (2017)
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#480(NEW) Ghare-Baire (1984)
[The Home and the World]

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