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ICM Forum's 500<400 2021 Nominations Due 11:59PM GMT Fri Sep 24

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ICM Forum's 500<400 2021 Nominations Due 11:59PM GMT Fri Sep 24

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ICM Forum's 500<400

Create an IMDb list or iCM list of your favorite films with fewer than 400 checks, and post it in this thread by 11:59PM GMT Fri Sep 24.

You can submit a list in one of three ways:
1. Imdb list
2. ICM list
3. List of imdb urls if you can't make an imdb list.
Make sure your (imdb/icm) list is public!

If you can post the list as (username URL) I would appreciate it (see the formatting in the submitted lists below).

Your list may be:
Ranked (Default if you don't specify)
Unranked
Partially-ranked list: the top X films are ranked and everything after that point is unranked.
Group ranked list: all groups get the average of what the films in that group would get if fully ranked.


View your least-checked checks
View your least-checked favorites

Rules:
- Films released in 2020 or 2021 are not allowed.
- Shorts, Documentaries and mini-series* are allowed. TV shows are not allowed.
* Mini-series must be 14 episodes or less, not multiple seasons, and not planned to be longer but canceled. The series should be intended as a single unified work and not episodic.
+Stand alone episodes of anthology type series are allowed if both the episode and series are under 400 checks.
- Films that reach 400 checks by the deadline will be removed (so you don't have to do it yourself, but if you do it's appreciated).
- You must post your own list in this thread (but you can ask someone to create an IMDb/ICM list for you, if you want).

Scoring for ranked lists: Half-life = 50
#1: 100 points
#51: 50 points
#101: 25 points
#N: 100 / 2 ^ ((N-1) / 50) points

Scoring for unranked and partially-ranked lists:
Every unranked film on your list receives the same number of points (the average of what they would have received if your list was ranked).


Some links to help you make your list:
Eligible titles that you've rated on IMDb (sorted by your rating)
Eligible titles from some IMDb list (replace lsXXXXXXXXX with any list ID #) (sorted by your rating)
Multi-links (Firefox), Linkclump (Chrome): Add-on that lets you copy many URLs at once. Useful for copying advanced search results (e.g. all films that you rated 9 or higher).
mjf made a script that lets you take urls cleanly from search results: viewtopic.php?p=635122#p635122
Imdb list helper, greasemonkey script to easily make lists from imdb urls or even just movie titles: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/11617-imdb-list-helper
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I may extend the deadline at the end a couple of days, however I will begin posting results before the end of September. If I do not or can not Tim has agreed to take over.
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72aicm https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/72ai ... 00/72aicm/

The first 250 titles are ranked.



A few stats:

In official lists:
9: 1 movie
7: 1 movie
6: 8 movies
5: 10 movies
4: 18 movies
3: 48 movies
2: 84 movies
1: 127 movies
0: 126 movies


Decades:
1800s: 1 movie
1910s: 2 movies
1920s: 11 movies
1930s: 12 movies
1940s: 13 movies
1950s: 42 movies
1960s: 59 movies
1970s: 48 movies
1980s: 28 movies
1990s: 52 movies
2000s: 68 movies
2010s: 85 movies
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My list:

sol https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/500d ... ties/sol-/

RANKED

Note: Order is subject to change and more films will potentially be added/replaced this month with the current <400 checks challenge in place.

111 new entries in my ballot since last year

Number of films on 5+ Official Lists: 0
Number of films on 4 Official Lists: 1
Number of films on 3 Official Lists: 2
Number of films on 2 Official Lists: 19
Number of films on 1 Official List: 83
Number of films on no Official Lists: 395
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PeacefulAnarchy wrote: August 14th, 2021, 10:01 pm I may extend the deadline at the end a couple of days, however I will begin posting results before the end of September. If I do not or can not Tim has agreed to take over.
cool! you know I'm going to keep us to any date you state ;)
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https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/500d ... is/beavis/

this is my latest list, ranked.
very happy with how it looks (always sad to lose some titles that go above 400 but I would still like to include as an obscure rec, but on the whole these 150 look very very solid, all strong favorites and prime candidates for official status if they haven't got that yet)

there are 45 unofficial films on my list, so rougly 33%
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sortile9io https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/favo ... ortile9io/

I only had to remove 7 from my last year list (2 of them in my top 3) and add 44 new titles (that I still have to rank) to the bottom.
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My ranked list, will change if anything new watched fits the criteria and is high enough up my Flickchart. Will stay capped at 500 though. https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/my+5 ... st/zzzorf/
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Ranked:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/melv ... /melvelet/

45 new entries so far, must have been quite few years since I last had so many :)
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https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/pitc ... horneirda/

Group ranked:

Group: 1-5 (10/10)
Group: 6-14 (9/10)
Group: 15-30 (8.5/10)
Group: 31-67 (8/10)
Group: 68-124 (7.5/10)
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Invisible Life [A Vida Invisível] (2019) has just above 200 ICM checks :facepalm:
7,100 IMDb ratings, 20k Letterboxd viewings ..

I am yet again concerned if we need to extend the "films from recent years" rule with the way activity on ICM further develops.
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As always, here is the « Everyone’s number one for the 500<400 list» list: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/ever ... st/72aicm/
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Ranked: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/best ... onderhond/

Went from 383 to 406. That's not good.
Torgo wrote: August 15th, 2021, 4:27 pm I am yet again concerned if we need to extend the "films from recent years" rule with the way activity on ICM further develops.
While I understand the problem, I don't like this solution.
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I am making my list and I forbid y'all of watching Robert Wise's Executive Suite. B) It currently sits at 399 checks. And it shall remain this way until the poll closes. :D
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Onderhond wrote: August 15th, 2021, 5:19 pm Ranked: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/best ... onderhond/

Went from 383 to 406. That's not good.
Torgo wrote: August 15th, 2021, 4:27 pm I am yet again concerned if we need to extend the "films from recent years" rule with the way activity on ICM further develops.
While I understand the problem, I don't like this solution.
I know it would get far too complicated but there could be a lower maximum checks total for more recent films if they aren't getting many checks because of a declining userbase.
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Torgo wrote: August 15th, 2021, 4:27 pm
Invisible Life [A Vida Invisível] (2019) has just above 200 ICM checks :facepalm:
7,100 IMDb ratings, 20k Letterboxd viewings ..

I am yet again concerned if we need to extend the "films from recent years" rule with the way activity on ICM further develops.
The same goes for Good Manners (2017). It has 12K on letterbox and below 200 checks on ICM. Oh wait, it's from 2017.
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How do these films have more viewings on letterboxd than imdb votes?

In any case, changing the cutoff for those films doesn't really make sense. Those both seem like films well within the intended scope of the list anyway.
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Here's my list for this year, ranked: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/favo ... beasterne/

Slowly but surely I'm finding more films to add to this list. New additions to the list this year include Common Threads: Stories from the Quilt, Original Cast Album: Company, and Gervaise. Looking forward to the results!
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PeacefulAnarchy wrote: August 15th, 2021, 11:21 pm How do these films have more viewings on letterboxd than imdb votes?

In any case, changing the cutoff for those films doesn't really make sense. Those both seem like films well within the intended scope of the list anyway.
Letterboxd has quite a strong Brazilian userbase, and I guess IMDB isn't that popular over there.
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Teproc wrote: August 16th, 2021, 7:30 am Letterboxd has quite a strong Brazilian userbase, and I guess IMDB isn't that popular over there.
Yeah, Letterboxd has a broader international audience, but it's also just getting more popular. Something you notice with more recent films.
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Onderhond wrote: August 16th, 2021, 7:58 am
Teproc wrote: August 16th, 2021, 7:30 am Letterboxd has quite a strong Brazilian userbase, and I guess IMDB isn't that popular over there.
Yeah, Letterboxd has a broader international audience, but it's also just getting more popular. Something you notice with more recent films.
Wow, you're not kidding. Tenet has more letterboxd views than imdb votes. That's very surprising to me.
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Here is my ranked list :

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/cine ... cinephage/

15 new additions. That's not too bad...
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PeacefulAnarchy wrote: August 16th, 2021, 8:08 am Wow, you're not kidding. Tenet has more letterboxd views than imdb votes. That's very surprising to me.
It's also very social-friendly (people sharing lists/pictures of lists), which is something IMDb doesn't really have.
But yeah, changing of the guards.

Edit: Looking at the new Evangelion (my Facebook went mad over this release), these are the numbers so far:
ICM: 59 checks
IMDb: 2.2K votes
Letterboxd: 9.2K votes.
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AdamH wrote: August 15th, 2021, 10:17 pm
Onderhond wrote: August 15th, 2021, 5:19 pm Ranked: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/best ... onderhond/

Went from 383 to 406. That's not good.
Torgo wrote: August 15th, 2021, 4:27 pm I am yet again concerned if we need to extend the "films from recent years" rule with the way activity on ICM further develops.
While I understand the problem, I don't like this solution.
I know it would get far too complicated but there could be a lower maximum checks total for more recent films if they aren't getting many checks because of a declining userbase.
I've noticed that too. It's a bit weird a movie like Babyteeth will just end up on my list, with 371 checks here, while having over 10k on IMDb. (huh that's also much lower than expected), but with 43k checks on Letterboxd. (3.8 rating on boxd vs 7.2 on IMDb)

EDIT: yeah i've checked it. TSR has 2.4m checks on IMDb, 700k on letterboxd (4.4 rating), but Parasite has 1.2m checks on letterboxd, but only like 640k on IMDb (4.6 rating)

Seems like letterboxd is just has become much bigger than IMDb. The audience also seems a bit different.
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PeacefulAnarchy wrote: August 16th, 2021, 8:08 am
Onderhond wrote: August 16th, 2021, 7:58 am
Teproc wrote: August 16th, 2021, 7:30 am Letterboxd has quite a strong Brazilian userbase, and I guess IMDB isn't that popular over there.
Yeah, Letterboxd has a broader international audience, but it's also just getting more popular. Something you notice with more recent films.
Wow, you're not kidding. Tenet has more letterboxd views than imdb votes. That's very surprising to me.
I feel you, Peaceful. We may have to adapt to these new times. ;)

For a certain type of film, IMDb still gets more ratings among a certain type of audience (e.g. action, blockbuster and American, low-brow target viewers). More Asian, international, artsier, "younger" films tend to get the same numbers or even higher on LB. I'm still studying it.
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Torgo wrote: August 16th, 2021, 12:08 pm For a certain type of film, IMDb still gets more ratings among a certain type of audience (e.g. action, blockbuster and American, low-brow target viewers). More Asian, international, artsier, "younger" films tend to get the same numbers or even higher on LB. I'm still studying it.
Even for those films, a tipping point seems very close.
Free Guy and Black Widow both score more way more rankings on Letterboxd. Jungle Cruise is trailing on Letterboxd, but only a little. So even for the big blockbusters, Letterboxd seems to be the new standard.
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pitchorneirda wrote: August 15th, 2021, 12:53 pm Group ranked:

Group: 1-5 (10/10)
Group: 6-14 (9/10)
Group: 15-30 (8.5/10)
Group: 31-67 (8/10)
Group: 68-124 (7.5/10)
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Lammetje wrote: August 16th, 2021, 12:26 pm This looks neat, very pleasing to the eye. :thumbsup:
I expected more of you. At least prefix with zeros for better alignment!
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