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joachimt wrote: October 12th, 2020, 8:27 pm So can you make it in 2.5 days, pitch?
I'll try but can't promise

Edit : I found the Russian one on Youtube, I'll probably watch it tonight (tonight CET time)
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I will try to watch them today or tomorrow. Let's break the tie! I had some problems with work lately so I wasn't in the mood. I am back though in the World Cup now.
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1. Meeletu 5+
2. Obyknovennoe chudo 5-

I think Meeletu wins because it was simpler, less predictable and a little more ambitious visually and Obyknovennoe chudo was unnecessarily long. But don't mind the ratings, I found something to enjoy in both of them, so thanks to the managers.

PS : Fun fact, the director of Meeletu was an actor in Mandariinid a.k.a Tangerines

PPS : oh and now seeing that several people mentioned they liked the music in the Russian movie, I must say I hated it
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1. Meeletu
2. Obyknovennoe chudo

I just misremembered the voting deadline -- glad to have another chance to submit my vote. Thanks, jvv and Gorro!

PS -- I really love Mandariinid, though that had nothing to do with my vote.
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1. Obyknovennoe chudo
2. Meeletu

I won't post my ratings, because... well... Let's leave it at that, ok? :whistling:

Does this mean that Estonia will win? hehehe Good luck finding another film for the next round! This will be interesting.
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BTW Estonia probably has a chance of winning the WC if JVV picks correct films.

f.e. this is available
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1247696/reviews
and probably 10 more I would like to see
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I can say with certainty that I will not choose Püha Tõnu kiusamine (The Temptation of St. Tony). It might do well with people on this forum, since there is a resemblance to Roy Andersson movies, but I disliked it myself. As for Klass, I still haven't seen it. Started it twice, but didn't like the beginning, so turned it off again. Maybe I will like it if I actually watch the whole movie.

I have looked into Mandariinid, but although it has Estonia as one of the countries on Imdb, I don't think it's Estonian enough unfortunately.

Of course it's still possible that Russia wins and this is all a moot point.
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Mandariinid is not eligible

We Estonians need our manager to think of the strategy now, not of personal preference.
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Armoreska wrote: October 14th, 2020, 10:05 am We Estonians need our manager to think of the strategy now, not of personal preference.
Sorry, personal preference supersedes strategy. You can always choose to be the manager for Estonia for the next world cup. :whistling:
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This is our only shot at greatness.
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Armoreska wrote: October 14th, 2020, 10:05 am We Estonians need our manager to think of the strategy now, not of personal preference.
So you change nationality every now and then?
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Mario Gaborović wrote: October 14th, 2020, 11:37 am
Armoreska wrote: October 14th, 2020, 10:05 am We Estonians need our manager to think of the strategy now, not of personal preference.
So you change nationality every now and then?
tehe we who have no nationality can freely change it as we wish.
F.e. when someone beats our nation, they may turn some of us to their nationality.
We're nationality-fluid.
I was Lebanese once too.
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Armoreska wrote: October 14th, 2020, 9:38 am BTW Estonia probably has a chance of winning the WC if JVV picks correct films.

f.e. this is available
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0988108/reviews
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1247696/reviews
and probably 10 more I would like to see
Unfortunately I have seen both and rated them with 5 and 6. :whistling:
The only other Estonian films I have seen and liked and have not been already nominated in a World Cup are
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5593384/?ref_=adv_li_tt Truth and Justice
and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106671/?ref_=adv_li_tt Darkness in Talin
but if I am not mistaken Truth and justice is not eligible. Is there a rule for release date? I don't remember.
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I think Truth and Justice is eligible, since as far as I know there is no rule for release date.
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It's not getting to 1000 any time soon at that pace so it should be eligible.
I would have used it for the semi instead of the final to guarantee final 2, and then rolled with personal preference

I'm watching Klass yeah I dont suppose this will have success but i liked it a bit, more than Meeletu

Do you need help with watching, JVV? I see you have basically 0 checks on the 3 Estonian lists
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/eest ... sika/ralf/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/estonian+film+100/r/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/esto ... +van+dutch
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/esto ... 002/mjf314
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Nathan, Mario, nimi
what do you think of
Sugisball
Kevade
Viimne reliikvia
Mina olin siin
Mehed ei nuta
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Armoreska wrote: October 14th, 2020, 2:41 pm Do you need help with watching, JVV? I see you have basically 0 checks on the 3 Estonian lists
Nah, I've already picked out my movie for the next round (if I proceed; Russia can still win this one).
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Armoreska wrote: October 14th, 2020, 3:25 pm Nathan, Mario, nimi
what do you think of
Sugisball
Kevade
Viimne reliikvia
Mina olin siin
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All of those are pretty bland to me when compared to Klass, which btw has its last chance to be chosen since it's checked 919 times.
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Image Meeletu: 13
Image Obyknovennoe chudo: 12

Deadline in 16.5 hours.
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jvv wrote: October 14th, 2020, 3:36 pm
Armoreska wrote: October 14th, 2020, 2:41 pm Do you need help with watching, JVV? I see you have basically 0 checks on the 3 Estonian lists
Nah, I've already picked out my movie for the next round (if I proceed; Russia can still win this one).
hope it's an oldie. been straight 21st century movies for 3 rounds.
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Armoreska wrote: October 14th, 2020, 3:25 pm Nathan, Mario, nimi
what do you think of
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Kevade
Viimne reliikvia
Mina olin siin
Mehed ei nuta
I really enjoyed Kevade but that probably owes more to my sensibilities than anything. Joke's seen it, too, so if she goes with it, there's a pretty good chance I vote for it. My opinion means nothing though, and I'll be just as happy seeing something new.
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35 minutes left.
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Image Meeletu: 13
Image Obyknovennoe chudo: 12

Estonia wins. Congratulations to jvv. Also thanks to Gorro for his pick and to the 25 people who voted this match.

This is only the second time that match was decided after extra time; the first was in the Season 1 when Hungary beat Norway 15-14.
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Mario Gaborović wrote: October 15th, 2020, 11:09 am This is only the second time that match was decided after extra time; the first was in the Season 1 when Hungary beat Norway 15-14.
Stop reminding me about that loss. :'(
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joachimt wrote: October 15th, 2020, 4:05 pm
Mario Gaborović wrote: October 15th, 2020, 11:09 am This is only the second time that match was decided after extra time; the first was in the Season 1 when Hungary beat Norway 15-14.
Stop reminding me about that loss. :'(
Can you share the participation details now after quarterfinals ended?
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Mario Gaborović wrote: October 15th, 2020, 7:36 pm
joachimt wrote: October 15th, 2020, 4:05 pm
Mario Gaborović wrote: October 15th, 2020, 11:09 am This is only the second time that match was decided after extra time; the first was in the Season 1 when Hungary beat Norway 15-14.
Stop reminding me about that loss. :'(
Can you share the participation details now after quarterfinals ended?
I'll post some stuff tomorrow.
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QFD:

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Participation in season 4:

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21 users voted in each match
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Angel Glez
Armoreska
beavis
clemmetarey
Cocoa
edward5
Fergenaprido
filmbantha
hurluberlu
joachimt
jvv
klaus78
Mario Gaborović
Muellwind
Nathan Treadway
Smoover
weirdboy
zhangalan
zuma
zzzorf
other users who voted at least 50%
burneyfan (17)
Gorro (15)
kingink (15)
sacmersault (15)
pitchorneirda (14)
Traveller (11)
occasional voters
cayado-coro (6)
Mate_cosido (4)
tommy_leazaq (4)
bjornam (3)
blocho (3)
kongs_speech (3)
Melvelet (3)
Mochard (3)
Cinepolis (2)
Lilarcor (2)
maxwelldeux (2)
PeacefulAnarchy (2)
Pgonzalez (2)
sebby (2)
sortile9io (2)
Asberg (1)
mathiasa (1)
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (1)
tarr (1)
wasabi (1)
Most surprising omission in this list: Ritesh
Care to elaborate on that, Ritesh? You make it to the semifinals, yet you don't vote in any match. Don't you like movies? :P
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He's like a manager who concentrates on own team ignoring other matches.
Moreover, doesnt even participate in his own.
Perhaps this is the way to victory
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Well i wanted to vote in some of the matches atleast mine..

But couldn't find time to watch movies because of work
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Work strikes again.
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This match is over for a week, right?

Does it still need to be linked at the top of the page?
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No, I'll remove the link in a minute and change it to the first SF match.
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