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Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 5th, 2020, 8:28 pm
by maxwelldeux
ICM Forum's Favorite Films from 1951


There were 43 voters and 134 different films voted for in this poll. The table below shows all films that received at least 3 votes.

Rank Title AKA Director Points Received Number of Ballots Number of IMDB Votes Link
1 Strangers on a Train 0 Alfred Hitchcock 384 30 121080 :imdb:
2 Ace in the Hole 0 Billy Wilder 339 29 30555 :imdb:
3 Diary of a Country Priest Journal d'un curé de campagne Robert Bresson 256 23 9809 :imdb:
4 Early Summer Bakushû Yasujirô Ozu 238 20 7039 :imdb:
5 A Streetcar Named Desire 0 Elia Kazan 215 20 97268 :imdb:
6 The Day the Earth Stood Still 0 Robert Wise 205 21 75398 :imdb:
7 The Browning Version 0 Anthony Asquith 187 14 4280 :imdb:
8 A Place in the Sun 0 George Stevens 179 15 19605 :imdb:
9 Othello The Tragedy of Othello: The Moor of Venice Orson Welles 165 17 7384 :imdb:
10 Summer Interlude Sommarlek Ingmar Bergman 156 16 5063 :imdb:
11 The Lavender Hill Mob 0 Charles Crichton 144 13 12424 :imdb:
12 Repast Meshi Mikio Naruse 133 14 1305 :imdb:
13 The Man in the White Suit 0 Alexander Mackendrick 122 14 8674 :imdb:
14 The River 0 Jean Renoir 115.5 12 5485 :imdb:
15 Beautiful Bellissima Luchino Visconti 114.5 11 3938 :imdb:
16 The Thing from Another World 0 Christian Nyby, Howard Hawks 113.5 12 24923 :imdb:
17 Miss Oyu Oyû-sama Kenji Mizoguchi 113 15 1367 :imdb:
18 On Dangerous Ground 0 Nicholas Ray, Ida Lupino 109 15 6103 :imdb:
19 The African Queen 0 John Huston 107.5 13 70250 :imdb:
20 Miracle in Milan Miracolo a Milano Vittorio De Sica 102 12 6196 :imdb:
21 Man of Straw Der Untertan Wolfgang Staudte 99 9 749 :imdb:
21 The Idiot Hakuchi Akira Kurosawa 99 12 4399 :imdb:
23 Miss Julie Fröken Julie Alf Sjöberg 95.5 13 1621 :imdb:
24 Alice in Wonderland 0 Clyde Geronimi, Jack Kinney, Wilfred Jackson, Hamilton Luske 92 13 125954 :imdb:
25 The Tales of Hoffmann 0 Michael Powell, Emeric Pressburger 83 9 2863 :imdb:
26 A Christmas Carol Scrooge Brian Desmond Hurst 82 8 19330 :imdb:
27 The Tall Target 0 Anthony Mann 80 10 1646 :imdb:
28 Rawhide 0 Henry Hathaway 79 9 2282 :imdb:
29 The Steel Helmet 0 Samuel Fuller 74 7 3723 :imdb:
30 Pandora and the Flying Dutchman 0 Albert Lewin 69 8 3243 :imdb:
31 The Tramp Awaara Raj Kapoor 67.5 9 3536 :imdb:
32 Quo Vadis 0 Mervyn LeRoy, Anthony Mann 67 7 13265 :imdb:
33 La Poison La poison Sacha Guitry 66 5 1057 :imdb:
33 Susana 0 Luis Buñuel 66 6 1811 :imdb:
35 Edward and Caroline Édouard et Caroline Jacques Becker 62 6 442 :imdb:
36 The Prowler 0 Joseph Losey 59 9 2921 :imdb:
37 Pool of London 0 Basil Dearden 57 11 592 :imdb:
38 The Pit of Loneliness Olivia Jacqueline Audry 56 5 303 :imdb:
39 Detective Story 0 William Wyler 54 6 7005 :imdb:
40 Westward the Women 0 William A. Wellman 53 7 2681 :imdb:
41 An American in Paris 0 Vincente Minnelli 46 8 29744 :imdb:
42 The Lost One Der Verlorene Peter Lorre 44 5 892 :imdb:
43 Apache Drums 0 Hugo Fregonese 42.5 5 591 :imdb:
44 The Axe of Wandsbek Das Beil von Wandsbek Falk Harnack 41 3 147 :imdb:
45 Rabbit Fire 0 Chuck Jones 38 5 3503 :imdb:
46 Fourteen Hours 0 Henry Hathaway 36 3 2205 :imdb:
47 Hanna Amon 0 Veit Harlan 35 3 67 :imdb:
48 Venom and Eternity Traité de bave et d'éternité Isidore Isou 34 3 352 :imdb:
49 M 0 Joseph Losey 33 3 1713 :imdb:
50 Cry Danger 0 Robert Parrish 32 4 2096 :imdb:
51 Murder, Inc. The Enforcer Raoul Walsh, Bretaigne Windust 31.5 3 4296 :imdb:
52 The Red Badge of Courage 0 John Huston 31 6 3954 :imdb:
53 No Highway in the Sky No Highway Henry Koster 30.5 4 3200 :imdb:
54 Dispersed Clouds Wakare-gumo Heinosuke Gosho 27 3 54 :imdb:
55 The Forbidden Christ Il Cristo proibito Curzio Malaparte 26 3 192 :imdb:
56 Storm Warning 0 Stuart Heisler 25.5 3 1521 :imdb:
57 The Well 0 Leo C. Popkin, Russell Rouse 24.5 3 680 :imdb:
58 His Kind of Woman 0 John Farrow, Richard Fleischer 24 4 3791 :imdb:
58 Surcos 0 José Antonio Nieves Conde 24 3 488 :imdb:
60 Victims of Sin Víctimas del pecado Emilio Fernández 23 3 232 :imdb:
60 Outcast of the Islands 0 Carol Reed 23 3 889 :imdb:
62 The House on Telegraph Hill 0 Robert Wise 19 4 2536 :imdb:
63 Show Boat 0 George Sidney 16 3 4384 :imdb:
64 In the Palm of Your Hand En la palma de tu mano Roberto Gavaldón 15 3 195 :imdb:
65 Rooty Toot Toot 0 John Hubley 14 4 786 :imdb:


ICM List
List of All 134 Films Nominated

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 5th, 2020, 10:02 pm
by Mysterious Dude
I watched Losey's M for this poll. I once knew someone who thought it was better than the original. It's not, but it's still an interesting watch, especially in how it tried to make sense of the original's decidedly unrealistic trial scene. What works in an expressionist film doesn't necessarily work in a gangster/noir film. Expanding the lawyer's role was a decent choice. Otherwise, it was actually a pretty faithful adaptation, and it's always fun to see another movie with the Bradbury Building (as seen in Blade Runner and The Artist).

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 5th, 2020, 11:30 pm
by St. Gloede
Ha, logging in this late paid off, I see. Nice to be the second to comment on the results, just sad that Diary of a Country Priest didn'r stand a chance for the top spot.

I was shocked to see The Day the Earth Stood Still, then I remembered how popular it actually is. :D (I always forget that).

Films were not quite where I expected them to be for this vote, and that's fun.

My highest unseen is #28 Rawhide, which I have been meaning to see for ages, followed by #31 Awaara, which I am quite skeptical of given my other run-ins with Bollywood melodramas. Beyond Rawhide, I think the films I'm most inclined to seek out are Outcast of the Islands, Storm Warning, Westward the Women, Victims of Sin and M.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 5th, 2020, 11:47 pm
by lineuphere
Two polls in a row with Hitchcock in the top spot.
I'm curious to see how he fares on the 2008 poll.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 12:31 am
by Lilarcor
Wow, lots of films also known as 0.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 1:20 am
by maxwelldeux
Lilarcor wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 12:31 am
Wow, lots of films also known as 0.
Hehehe... a quirk of copying/pasting from Excel that I'm too lazy to fix.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 2:51 am
by blocho
maxwelldeux wrote:
September 5th, 2020, 8:28 pm
List of All 134 Films Nominated
The list above doesn't match the results you gave for those movies that finished near the bottom.

Good list overall. Strangers on a Train was the movie that first got me interested in movies. I think I saw it when I was 9 or 10. Life-changing.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 2:56 am
by sol
maxwelldeux wrote:
September 5th, 2020, 8:28 pm
44 The Axe of Wandsbek Das Beil von Wandsbek Falk Harnack 41 3 147
20 points from peeptoad, 20 from me and 11 from blocho = 51, right? Or did one of the others edit their ballot or submit it unranked or something? :blink:

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 3:24 am
by maxwelldeux
blocho wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 2:51 am
maxwelldeux wrote:
September 5th, 2020, 8:28 pm
List of All 134 Films Nominated
The list above doesn't match the results you gave for those movies that finished near the bottom.

Good list overall. Strangers on a Train was the movie that first got me interested in movies. I think I saw it when I was 9 or 10. Life-changing.
There were some two-vote films that finished above the lowest 3+ vote films at the bottom. Like "Juliette, or Key of Dreams" was the highest two-vote film at #59 (actually tied with 24 points with the films above and below it).

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 3:26 am
by maxwelldeux
sol wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 2:56 am
maxwelldeux wrote:
September 5th, 2020, 8:28 pm
44 The Axe of Wandsbek Das Beil von Wandsbek Falk Harnack 41 3 147
20 points from peeptoad, 20 from me and 11 from blocho = 51, right? Or did one of the others edit their ballot or submit it unranked or something? :blink:
peeptoad only submitted 10 films, so 10 points for that top film. The points for the top film = the number of films you submitted. My top only got 8 points.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 3:38 am
by RogerTheMovieManiac88
Nice to see 'The Browning Version' ensconced in the top 10. A beautiful, emotionally devastating adaptation of Rattigan, shot through with a heart-rending despair and a realisation of personal failings in this milieu of tradition, values, and excellence. One of Michael Redgrave's finest hours on screen!

Two of the year's stand-out musicals ('An American in Paris' and 'Show Boat') languishing down in 41st and 63rd place! Musicals deserve more love, heehee!

Thanks for the results, Maxwell!

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 5:31 am
by joachimt
St. Gloede wrote:
September 5th, 2020, 11:30 pm

My highest unseen is #28 Rawhide,
Same here. :cheers:

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 9:58 am
by Angel Glez
Glad to see that In the Palm of Your Hand made the list without my help. 3 voters with good taste. :thumbsup:

And Dispersed Clouds, one of Gosho's best, getting 27 points with only 54 IMDb's votes. B)

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 10:12 am
by Angel Glez
RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 3:38 am
Two of the year's stand-out musicals ('An American in Paris' and 'Show Boat') languishing down in 41st and 63rd place! Musicals deserve more love, heehee!

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 11:10 am
by RogerTheMovieManiac88
Angel Glez wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 10:12 am
RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 3:38 am
Two of the year's stand-out musicals ('An American in Paris' and 'Show Boat') languishing down in 41st and 63rd place! Musicals deserve more love, heehee!
Thank you for that, Angel. This was one of the films that I had hoped to get to before submitting my list (along with the Mexican noir you mention). It wasn't to be, unfortunately. For a variety of reasons, I haven't been watching very many films over the last week or so. Your link will ensure that this one remains in my thoughts for future viewing.

:cheers:

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 1:48 pm
by OldAle1
I have to echo the astonishment at the low placings for Show Boat and, especially, An American in Paris. More proof that this forum is seriously musical-disinclined I guess. Then again I didn't vote for either myself, or for Awaara, so I'm part of the problem.

Predictable results apart from that; I'd love to see a 1951 poll someday where Hitchcock isn't on top but I don't think it'll happen unless it's someplace that's really anti-American-cinema. Happy that Meshi and The Browning Version, the two best first-time viewings I had for this poll, did so well. I've now seen all of the top 32 apart from the two tied at 21, which were both on my possibilities list but just didn't happen. Someday...

Thanks max!

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 2:43 pm
by insomnius
Thanks, max.

So, how many first place-votes did Hitch get, and other films too for that matter?

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 3:35 pm
by peeptoad
maxwelldeux wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 3:26 am
sol wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 2:56 am
maxwelldeux wrote:
September 5th, 2020, 8:28 pm
44 The Axe of Wandsbek Das Beil von Wandsbek Falk Harnack 41 3 147
20 points from peeptoad, 20 from me and 11 from blocho = 51, right? Or did one of the others edit their ballot or submit it unranked or something? :blink:
peeptoad only submitted 10 films, so 10 points for that top film. The points for the top film = the number of films you submitted. My top only got 8 points.
I have some work to do for 1951. It's one of my top 5 years with the fewest films seen.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 5:04 pm
by maxwelldeux
insomnius wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 2:43 pm
Thanks, max.

So, how many first place-votes did Hitch get, and other films too for that matter?
Strangers on a Train - 6
Journal d'un curé de campagne - 5
Ace in the Hole - 4
The Browning Version - 3
Bakushû - 3
The Man in the White Suit - 2
A Streetcar Named Desire - 2
The African Queen - 2
Das Beil von Wandsbek - 2
The Day the Earth Stood Still - 2
The Tales of Hoffmann - 1
Rawhide - 1
Scrooge - 1
The Thing from Another World - 1
Hakuchi - 1
Hanna Amon - 1
Meshi - 1
Alice in Wonderland - 1
On Dangerous Ground - 1
The Tragedy of Othello: The Moor of Venice - 1

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 6th, 2020, 9:38 pm
by insomnius
maxwelldeux wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 5:04 pm
insomnius wrote:
September 6th, 2020, 2:43 pm
Thanks, max.

So, how many first place-votes did Hitch get, and other films too for that matter?
Strangers on a Train - 6
Journal d'un curé de campagne - 5
Ace in the Hole - 4
The Browning Version - 3
Bakushû - 3
The Man in the White Suit - 2
A Streetcar Named Desire - 2
The African Queen - 2
Das Beil von Wandsbek - 2
The Day the Earth Stood Still - 2
The Tales of Hoffmann - 1
Rawhide - 1
Scrooge - 1
The Thing from Another World - 1
Hakuchi - 1
Hanna Amon - 1
Meshi - 1
Alice in Wonderland - 1
On Dangerous Ground - 1
The Tragedy of Othello: The Moor of Venice - 1
:thumbsup:

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 7th, 2020, 9:37 am
by Fergenaprido
I'm a big fan of musicals. I haven't seen Show Boat, but while An American in Paris may have been adored when it came out, I don't think it aged well, and I found it to be a mediocre movie (I gave it 6.4/10). I don't think there's a lack of appreciation for musicals on this forum simply because those two didn't perform well. Awaara and Alice in Wonderland both did fairly well in this poll. Perhaps 1951 just wasn't a good year for musicals?


On another note, here are some more stats.

Country Totals of the Top 65
31 - USA
9 - UK
6 - France
5 - Japan
4 - Germany (2 East, 2 West)
3 - Italy
3 - Mexico
2 - Sweden
1 - India
1 - Spain

Oscar Best Picture Nominees
5 - A Streetcar Named Desire
8 - A Place in the Sun
32 - Quo Vadis
41 - An American in Paris - winner
71 - Decision Before Dawn (less than 3 votes)

Cannes Grand Prix - interestingly there was a tie this year, and the films were close in the poll too
20 - Miracle in Milan (Miracolo a Milano)
23 - Miss Julie (Fröken Julie)

Venice Golden Lion
Rashomon - 1950 film

Berlin Golden Bear - first year of the festival
5 winners in different categories (drama, comedy, documentary, thriller/adventure, music) but none of them received a single vote (or were from 1950).

Locarno Golden Leopard - no festival this year

Top 10 North American Domestic Box Office Hits - last four didn't receive any votes
5 - A Streetcar Named Desire $4.3M (5th)
8 - A Place in the Sun $3.5M (9th)
19 - The African Queen $4.1M (6th)
32 - Quo Vadis $11.1M (1st)
41 - An American in Paris $3.8M (8th)
63 - Show Boat $5.3M (2nd)
xx - David and Bathsheba $4.7M (3rd)
xx - The Great Caruso $4.3M (4th)
xx - That's My Boy $3.8M (7th)
xx - Father's Little Dividend $3.1M (10th)

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 7th, 2020, 9:46 am
by St. Gloede
Loving the stats, Fergen, and loving 2 vs. 2 split from a divided Germany as well!

Also interesting:

31 from the US vs. 34 from ROW, and 40 English mangiage films vs. 25 non-English language films.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 7th, 2020, 10:51 am
by Fergenaprido
Actually I believe Renoir's The River is in English, so it's 41 English language fils vs. 24 non.

Also, only 2 shorts made the Top 65 (Rabbit Fire & Rooty Toot Toot).

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 7th, 2020, 12:10 pm
by St. Gloede
Ah, I thought The River was counted as UK or US, but I see they list France first on IMDb. Sad to see the number drop even further though.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 7th, 2020, 1:09 pm
by timshelboy
Sorry I missed ballot again (too much real life!)

No big surprises although pleasantly surprised THE BROWNING VERSION so liked. I need to get the Ozu (any Ozu in fact) and the Bresson under my belt I guess.

Shame PANDORA isn't a bit better appreciated - one of classic cinema's great colour romantic fantasies, set in a then unknown Tossa Del Mar

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Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 7th, 2020, 5:11 pm
by Opio
timshelboy wrote:
September 7th, 2020, 1:09 pm
Shame PANDORA isn't a bit better appreciated - one of classic cinema's great colour romantic fantasies, set in a then unknown Tossa Del Mar
I hadn't heard much about it until seeking it out for this poll. Thought it was going to be rough sledding after the first few minutes (Ava is pretty mean there at the start), but it picked up after that. Great color and dream-like quality; I really liked it. Statues and a record-breaking race car, aflame, on the beach. Ava stunning, as you show. "The coup de grace, eh, matador." (Mason).

Probably could have put it higher than #10 on my poll. DIrector Lewin is 2 for 2 with me between this and Dorian Gray.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 7th, 2020, 6:29 pm
by timshelboy
Opio wrote:
September 7th, 2020, 5:11 pm
timshelboy wrote:
September 7th, 2020, 1:09 pm
Shame PANDORA isn't a bit better appreciated - one of classic cinema's great colour romantic fantasies, set in a then unknown Tossa Del Mar
I hadn't heard much about it until seeking it out for this poll. Thought it was going to be rough sledding after the first few minutes (Ava is pretty mean there at the start), but it picked up after that. Great color and dream-like quality; I really liked it. Statues and a record-breaking race car, aflame, on the beach. Ava stunning, as you show. "The coup de grace, eh, matador." (Mason).

Probably could have put it higher than #10 on my poll. DIrector Lewin is 2 for 2 with me between this and Dorian Gray.
It would have made my top 5 (A PLACE IN THE SUN my 1#..

PANDORA has been described as an "anatomy of Ava Gardner" and that is not inaccurate!. :D I was treated to front row seats at a restored print premiere a decade or so back at the David Lean cinema in Croydon. One of most hypnotic experiences I have had in front of a big screen. Mason good too - in his homme fatale mode

Here is Tossa Del Mar in the film (the visual splendour not limited to the cast)
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Here's Tossa Del Mar today
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and here is the statue the locals erected to commemorate their glamorous visitor
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Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 7th, 2020, 9:43 pm
by RogerTheMovieManiac88
I love the screenshots, Tim!

Such an hypnotic, sensual, dream-like masterpiece. A Top 10 of '51 film for me. I'm glad it has other fans here as well!

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 7th, 2020, 9:52 pm
by RogerTheMovieManiac88
Thanks, Ferg. You might be right when it comes to the strength of the musical in '51. Going down that list, there are several that I like a lot ('I'll See You In My Dreams, 'Golden Girl') but there aren't all that many huge and celebrated musicals.

I personally prefer 'Show Boat' to the Minnelli, but I would have expected both to be a little bit higher.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 8th, 2020, 11:51 am
by timshelboy
I have to echo the astonishment at the low placings for Show Boat and, especially, An American in Paris. More proof that this forum is seriously musical-disinclined I guess. Then again I didn't vote for either myself, or for Awaara, so I'm part of the problem.



Agree If I had voted they'd have both made my cut (10 & 19 Minnelli Sidney)

Neither is a huge favourite and ageee PARIS has always been a very poor third after ON THE TOWN & SINGIN IN THE RAIN in the Kelly pantheon although on its own terms good.

SHOWBOAT I rate lower - nice tunes & colour & dazzling opening sequence, but after Ava 'leaves the party half way through the heat goes out of the movie. Howard Keel made a lovely baritone though but again, Better in BROTHERS and astonishingly fine in KATE

:cheers:

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 8th, 2020, 12:29 pm
by Mysterious Dude
There are things I like about An American in Paris, but I was put off by the romance, which seems to be a pretty standard "keep harassing her until she realizes how great you are" type of romance.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 8th, 2020, 1:58 pm
by timshelboy
Mysterious Dude wrote:
September 8th, 2020, 12:29 pm
There are things I like about An American in Paris, but I was put off by the romance, which seems to be a pretty standard "keep harassing her until she realizes how great you are" type of romance.

Well that's probably true of most Kelly movies :unsure: :D :unsure: I love his dancing talent but always found his screen persona(e) a little brash and self aggrandising. It absolutely worked in the context of the best of the movies but not for me personally if you see what I mean. sCo-star Snatra wasn't the looker (or the dancer) but head a fair set of pipes and that Maggio/underdog thing going for him and was a lot warmer. I found him sexier.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 13th, 2020, 6:59 pm
by Rufus-T
I would guess the musicals would have done much better in CFB which was more Hollywood-centered than the International-centered group here.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1951 (RESULTS)

Posted: September 15th, 2020, 1:26 am
by Ebbywebby
Hm. The early '50s is not really my era, and I think I've only seen 27 of those 65 films. I haven't even seen The Browning Version or Meshi. To be honest, I can't remember whether I voted in this poll or not. :)