iCM Forum's Favourite Films on 0 Official Lists - Results [2020 edition]

[Carmel1379]

Can't see the pic m8

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Hmmm, it was just

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Are the powers that be deterring a possible return of Carmedonna? Whomst keeps a rein on this prima donna's unwieldy puny homecoming? Maybe it's myself, the swelling insecurities resulting in one's own repression... The time might not yet be ripe



Stay gold, my Portuguese m8

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What's all this Madge business about?

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musicolyrical prowess, gra w podchody, mirthful regal summers, livin' life like i'm in a dream, circumlocution, whatever you make of it, of misschien gewoon geestesziekte

[Fergenaprido]

#60 (#new) Under the Silver Lake (2018, David Robert Mitchell), 306.6 points, 1112 checks, 85 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 60, new, --

9 votesShow

GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Gordon_Gekko (#99)
Gorro (#15)
Ebbywebby (#46)
Cinephage (#485)
OldAle1 (unranked>100)
sol (#262)
brokenface (#167)
mathiasa (#10)

#59 (+3046, #3105) Der Nachtmahr [The Nightmare] (2015, Akiz), 306.86 points, 133 checks, 13 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 59, 3105, --

6 votesShow

GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#60)
Gordon_Gekko (#43)
peeptoad (#49)
Lakigigar (#31)
Melvelet (unranked>30)

#58 (#new) Images (1972, Robert Altman), 308.05 points, 649 checks, 58 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 58, new, --

7 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#55)
Perception de Ambiguity (#48)
TraverseTown (#232)
filmbantha (#71)
peeptoad (#10)
Melvelet (unranked>30)
Y U M E (#97)

#57 (#new) Mandara (1971, Akio Jissoji), 308.97 points, 72 checks, 4 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 57, new, --

4 votesShow

Perception de Ambiguity (#31)
joachimt (#38)
Ebbywebby (#12)
Melvelet (#3)

#56 (-30, #26) Hwal [The Bow] (2005, Kim Ki-duk), 309.52 points, 666 checks, 53 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 56, 26, 70

7 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#1)
OBgeoff (#230)
Gorro (#81)
Lakigigar (#18)
Onderhond (#157)
Smoover (#52)
mathiasa (#82)

[Fergenaprido]

Last batch before bed. I'll reveal the Top 50 tomorrow.



#55 (+138, #193) Girl, Interrupted (1999, James Mangold), 310.03 points, 15275 checks, 1340 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 55, 193, 213

7 votesShow

Lammetje (unranked>7)
Caracortada (#12)
joachimt (unranked>167)
Nathan Treadway (unranked)
Melvelet (#25)
Cocoa (#71)
sol (#154)

#54 (-7, #47) Source Code (2011, Duncan Jones), 312.02 points, 27513 checks, 1321 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 54, 47, 227

7 votesShow

TraverseTown (#279)
JimiAntiloop (#19)
Gorro (#21)
joachimt (unranked>167)
Cinephage (#6)
beasterne (#69)
sol (#108)

#53 (#new) Yume no ginga [Labyrinth of Dreams] (1997, Gakuryû Ishii), 312.88 points, 126 checks, 19 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 53, new, --

5 votesShow

matthewscott8 (#18)
joachimt (#16)
Melvelet (#4)
Onderhond (#138)
Y U M E (#64)

#52 (+56, #108) Macbeth (1948, Orson Welles), 313.27 points, 817 checks, 48 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 52, 108, 35

10 votesShow

Opio (#111)
Perception de Ambiguity (#251)
outdoorcats (#175)
burneyfan (#13)
Blocho (unranked)
Ebbywebby (#10)
Cinephage (#408)
OldAle1 (unranked>100)
Gershwin (#44)
sol (#287)

#51 (-36, #15) American Masters: No Direction Home: Bob Dylan (2005, Martin Scorsese), 314.13 points, 3563 checks, 253 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 51, 15, 165

6 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#2)
Opio (#148)
jeff_v (#33)
Perception de Ambiguity (#302)
Gorro (#68)
Ebbywebby (#3)

[Cocoa]

How many times is Jake Gyllenhaal going to appear

[GruesomeTwosome]

I haven’t seen Altman’s Images yet (one of those films that’s been on my watchlist a long time), but I’m surprised it’s not on an official list.

[Ebbywebby]

How could it be that Jesus Christ Superstar isn't in any list at all? Not that I'm a big fan, but that's a pretty big/famous film, should've been picked up somewhere, no?

I guess it didn't make enough money to hit the domestic box office list - and by that point American musicals weren't really doing well worldwide either, so there goes the second box office list. No major awards obviously. I dunno, I haven't seen it (or the similar Godspell, also pretty famous but on 0 lists) because as much as I love musicals, the 70s rock and/or hippie examples are pretty much not my thing - don't like Grease or Hair, haven't bothered with The Wiz, etc. I think this is an area in film history that has pretty much fallen out of favor overall. But yeah, it certainly is more generally known than most of the films that have appeared on this list so far.

Still, Ted Neeley seems to have made a lifelong career of this.... I went to a screening a few years ago where he appeared. I talked briefly with him and got my photo snapped with him. He was very nice, though I sense reality and fiction have started to bleed together for him. If you spend your life being addressed as Jesus, that's gotta take a toll.

On the other hand, Man of La Mancha and Fiddler on the Roof seemed like big movies at the time, but they don't seem to have endured well at all. Maybe this era of musicals indeed has fallen out of favor. But Fiddler on the Roof really goofed in casting a toothpaste for the lead instead of Zero Mostel.

I totally should have had "Images" on my list. It went unofficial without me noticing. Going to add to my list right now.

[brokenface]

I haven’t seen Altman’s Images yet (one of those films that’s been on my watchlist a long time), but I’m surprised it’s not on an official list.

Must've used to be, otherwise not sure why it's not on my list

[Ebbywebby]

I haven’t seen Altman’s Images yet (one of those films that’s been on my watchlist a long time), but I’m surprised it’s not on an official list.

Must've used to be, otherwise not sure why it's not on my list

Its beta page says it has been on four official lists.

[Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi]

How in the world is A Charlie Brown Christmas not on an official list?

[GruesomeTwosome]

How in the world is A Charlie Brown Christmas not on an official list?

I feel the same about How the Grinch Stole Christmas (the 1966 animated one).

[Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi]

How in the world is A Charlie Brown Christmas not on an official list?

I feel the same about How the Grinch Stole Christmas (the 1966 animated one).

With good reason. Weird omissions.

[beasterne]

How in the world is A Charlie Brown Christmas not on an official list?

I feel the same about How the Grinch Stole Christmas (the 1966 animated one).

With good reason. Weird omissions.

No idea how they’re not on the Annecy list, the Brief Encounters list, or the Library of Congress list...

[cinewest]

So now that we have established that the meaning and artistic value ascribed to a film (or any artwork) is entirely up to individual viewers, do we also say that the most meaningful and valuable artworks are those thought to be so by the greatest number of viewers?

Further questions for consideration:

What about the notion of standards in art? Are there any, and if so what are they, and where do they come from?
I'm sure there are quite a few who think that Superman comics are more meaningful, artistic, and entertaining than Shakespeare, but what's true for people, even a majority of people, isn't necessarily good for art.

Does the viewer capacity to engage, perceive, and judge enter into it at all?
I was roundly scolded for commenting on a film recently that I hadn't watched all the way through, but does watching a film all the way through automatically make one more capable of making judgments about it? Does everyone who watches a film all the way through really engage it to the same degree? Furthermore, is everyone equally prepared to assess what they are viewing?

And before I forget, a shout out for Bothersome Man, a really good, surreal Nordic black comedy about a man who arrives in a small city of contentment and stirs up trouble by asking too many questions....

[Fergenaprido]

#50 (#new) Margin Call (2011, J.C. Chandor), 320.38 points, 5190 checks, 268 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 50, new, --

7 votesShow

Panunzio (#16)
Gordon_Gekko (#14)
AB537 (unranked>40)
outdoorcats (#33)
Blocho (unranked)
joachimt (unranked>167)
sol (#286)

#49 (+167, #216) Primal Fear (1996, Gregory Hoblit), 322.68 points, 7405 checks, 557 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 49, 216, 30

7 votesShow

OBgeoff (#34)
Perception de Ambiguity (#515)
Lammetje (#6)
JimiAntiloop (#131)
Gordon_Gekko (#27)
joachimt (#34)
mightysparks (#131)

#48 (+12, #60) Swimming Pool (2003, François Ozon), 325.13 points, 2522 checks, 108 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 48, 60, 86

6 votesShow

nimimerkillinen (unranked)
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
explorer95 (#8)
Caracortada (#8)
Gorro (#176)
Melvelet (unranked>30)

#47 (#new) Is-slottet [The Ice Palace] (1987, Per Blom), 331.16 points, 137 checks, 15 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 47, new, 2089

6 votesShow

rnilsson19 (#139)
joachimt (unranked>167)
beavis (#32)
Lilarcor (#5)
Cocoa (#31)
sol (#9)

#46 (-4, #42) Daybreak Express (1953, D.A. Pennebaker), 331.18 points, 563 checks, 57 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 46, 42, --

9 votesShow

Panunzio (#5)
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
OBgeoff (#187)
Perception de Ambiguity (#706)
lineuphere (#7)
joachimt (unranked>167)
brokenface (#41)
mathiasa (#100)
ChrisReynolds (unranked>67)

[Lammetje]

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Hmmm, it was just

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Are the powers that be deterring a possible return of Carmedonna? Whomst keeps a rein on this prima donna's unwieldy puny homecoming? Maybe it's myself, the swelling insecurities resulting in one's own repression... The time might not yet be ripe



Stay gold, my Portuguese m8

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What's all this Madge business about?

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musicolyrical prowess, gra w podchody, mirthful regal summers, livin' life like i'm in a dream, circumlocution, whatever you make of it, of misschien gewoon geestesziekte

I was curious because Madge is my most scrobbled artist on Last.fm. But "Primadonna" is a nice song too.

Anywho, back to the poll. I was thinking it'd be nice to have smaller batches, now that we're in the top 50. Maybe three films per batch instead of five?

[Fergenaprido]

Anywho, back to the poll. I was thinking it'd be nice to have smaller batches, now that we're in the top 50. Maybe three films per batch instead of five?

I usually do smaller batches starting Top 30/Top 20. I don't want to drag things out too much. I've been keeping my eye on the discussion when I'm awake, and slowing down posting results when there are more people talking about them. I'd like to finish them today (Sunday) so I can move on to other things during the week

[Fergenaprido]

This batch has the highest film with only 4 votes.



#45 (#new) Hail, Caesar! (2016, Coen Brothers), 331.95 points, 6255 checks, 259 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 45, new, --

11 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#34)
Panunzio (#20)
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
jeff_v (#32)
OBgeoff (#243)
Perception de Ambiguity (#720)
Fergenaprido (#353)
Blocho (unranked)
joachimt (unranked>167)
3eyes (unranked>25)
sol (#290)

#44 (+3533, #3577) Happy Gilmore (1996, Dennis Dugan), 334.59 points, 17879 checks, 612 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 44, 3577, 215

5 votesShow

Perception de Ambiguity (#4)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
Blocho (unranked)
zzzorf (#38)
beasterne (#20)

#43 (#new) Ahlat Ağacı [The Wild Pear Tree] (2018, Nuri Bilge Ceylan), 338.81 points, 576 checks, 76 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 43, new, --

5 votesShow

Perception de Ambiguity (#202)
explorer95 (#1)
AB537 (#20)
Gorro (#38)
Teproc (#4)

#42 (-8, #34) Reconstruction (2003, Christoffer Boe), 339.21 points, 701 checks, 91 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 42, 34, 122

4 votesShow

Gorro (#1)
joachimt (#5)
Onderhond (#5)
Gershwin (#51)

#41 (+2, #43) Coherence (2013, James Ward Byrkit), 342.4 points, 3220 checks, 364 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 41, 43, 226

9 votesShow

GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
jeff_v (#51)
Perception de Ambiguity (#384)
Gordon_Gekko (#18)
filmbantha (#23)
outdoorcats (#164)
Gorro (#140)
mightysparks (#91)
sol (#54)

[Fergenaprido]

#40 (+4834, #4874) Evridiki BA 2037 [Euridice BA 2037] (1975, Nikos Nikolaidis), 342.52 points, 90 checks, 13 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 40, 4874, --

5 votesShow

rnilsson19 (#4)
joachimt (unranked>167)
beavis (#41)
Melvelet (#6)
sol (#5)

#39 (-28, #11) 50/50 (2011, Jonathan Levine), 343.78 points, 27766 checks, 1982 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 39, 11, 23

8 votesShow

Panunzio (#69)
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
filmbantha (#58)
Gorro (#22)
Cinephage (#117)
mightysparks (#84)
beasterne (#74)

#38 (-22, #16) Bullets Over Broadway (1994, Woody Allen), 353.85 points, 3203 checks, 204 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 38, 16, 72

7 votesShow

Gorro (#201)
lineuphere (#88)
Ebbywebby (#15)
cinewest (#106)
gromit82 (#54)
sol (#6)
brokenface (#26)

#37 (#new) Himizu [Themis] (2011, Sion Sono), 357.26 points, 290 checks, 28 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 37, new, 332

7 votesShow

Perception de Ambiguity (#127)
filmbantha (#48)
Lakigigar (#14)
joachimt (#15)
beavis (#18)
Onderhond (#165)
Y U M E (#82)

#36 (+80, #116) De laatste dagen van Emma Blank [The Last Days of Emma Blank] (2009, Alex van Warmerdam), 359.23 points, 321 checks, 20 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 36, 116, --

5 votesShow

matthewscott8 (#71)
joachimt (#11)
beavis (#21)
72aicm (unranked)
Gershwin (#12)

[Fergenaprido]

The most-checked unofficial film on icm is in this batch.



#35 (-2, #33) And Now for Something Completely Different (1971, Ian MacNaughton), 366.01 points, 2594 checks, 184 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 35, 33, 24

8 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#5)
Perception de Ambiguity (#238)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
AB537 (#14)
Ebbywebby (#16)
zzzorf (#149)
mightysparks (#201)
mathiasa (#102)

#34 (#new) Pool of London (1951, Basil Dearden), 367.21 points, 126 checks, 10 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 34, new, --

9 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#52)
rnilsson19 (#145)
Pretentious Hipster (#13)
Fergenaprido (#401)
AB537 (unranked>40)
burneyfan (#3)
joachimt (#93)
OldAle1 (unranked>100)
Nathan Treadway (unranked)

#33 (+19, #52) The Butterfly Effect (2004, Eric Bress & J. Mackye Gruber), 368.47 points, 43345 checks, 2555 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 33, 52, --

10 votesShow

OBgeoff (#150)
Perception de Ambiguity (#839)
JimiAntiloop (#22)
Gordon_Gekko (#60)
filmbantha (#27)
Lakigigar (#43)
joachimt (#106)
gromit82 (#27)
mightysparks (#258)
ChrisReynolds (unranked>67)

#32 (+73, #105) Death at a Funeral (2007, Frank Oz), 369.44 points, 9012 checks, 609 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 32, 105, 141

7 votesShow

AB537 (#3)
maxwelldeux (#10)
Blocho (unranked)
Ebbywebby (#84)
shugs (#25)
sol (#109)
ChrisReynolds (unranked>67)

#31 (+326, #357) Lucky Number Slevin (2006, Paul McGuigan), 377 points, 20633 checks, 1472 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 31, 357, 2065

7 votesShow

Gordon_Gekko (#25)
Fergenaprido (#46)
filmbantha (#11)
Gorro (#280)
Blocho (unranked)
Lakigigar (#29)
Melvelet (unranked>30)

[OldAle1]

I feel the same about How the Grinch Stole Christmas (the 1966 animated one).

With good reason. Weird omissions.

No idea how they’re not on the Annecy list, the Brief Encounters list, or the Library of Congress list...

Obvious reason: icheckmovies hates Christmas and Jesus. Clearly the site is run by a bunch of no-goodnik commies.

[Lonewolf2003]

With good reason. Weird omissions.

No idea how they’re not on the Annecy list, the Brief Encounters list, or the Library of Congress list...

Obvious reason: icheckmovies hates Christmas and Jesus. Clearly the site is run by a bunch of no-goodnik commies.

The site is run by a Dutch guy, and as everyone knows the Dutch are oversexed potsmoking socialist heathens who kill unborn babies and elderly in their spare time.

[Onderhond]

I thought the Dutch were just stingy and loud? Then again, Belgians are just dumb and boorish, so what do I know :p

[Fergenaprido]

#30 (+2, #32) Captain Fantastic (2016, Matt Ross), 377.83 points, 5080 checks, 634 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 30, 32, --

8 votesShow

filmbantha (#38)
Gorro (#212)
Blocho (unranked)
Lakigigar (#11)
joachimt (#78)
Nathan Treadway (unranked)
Cocoa (#66)
jvv (unranked)

#29 (+508, #537) The Guest (2014, Adam Wingard), 387.74 points, 2736 checks, 234 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 29, 537, --

8 votesShow

TraverseTown (#271)
Gordon_Gekko (#15)
AB537 (unranked>40)
filmbantha (#45)
Gorro (#136)
Lakigigar (#12)
mightysparks (#6)
sol (#178)

#28 (#new) Cloud Atlas (2012, Tom Tykwer & Wachowski Siblings), 388.95 points, 17892 checks, 1590 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 28, new, --

9 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#10)
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#317)
JimiAntiloop (#87)
filmbantha (#17)
Blocho (unranked)
joachimt (unranked>167)
OldAle1 (#7)
ChrisReynolds (unranked>67)

#27 (-13, #14) Jodorowsky's Dune (2013, Frank Pavich), 389.51 points, 2136 checks, 268 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 27, 14, --

7 votesShow

nimimerkillinen (unranked)
Gordon_Gekko (#70)
Gorro (#12)
Ebbywebby (#69)
Teproc (#41)
brokenface (#65)
mathiasa (#15)

#26 (+20, #46) La fille inconnue [The Unknown Girl] (2016, Dardenne Brothers), 390.47 points, 460 checks, 19 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 26, 46, --

8 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#38)
matthewscott8 (#88)
outdoorcats (#101)
Gorro (#364)
burneyfan (#23)
3eyes (unranked>25)
72aicm (unranked)
Smoover (#9)

[Lonewolf2003]

I thought the Dutch were just stingy and loud? Then again, Belgians are just dumb and boorish, so what do I know :p

Yes the Dutch are very arrogant and loud about it

[Fergenaprido]

We've reached the top 25!

As best as I can tell, here's how it breaks down compared to the last poll in 2018:

16 returning Top 100 films
1 returning Top 250 film
7 recently unofficial films
1 newly eligible film

Put your guesses in spoiler tags!

[mightysparks]

Great jump for The Guest

[sol]

We've reached the top 25!

As best as I can tell, here's how it breaks down compared to the last poll in 2018:

16 returning Top 100 films
1 returning Top 250 film
7 recently unofficial films
1 newly eligible film

Put your guesses in spoiler tags!

7 recently unofficial filmsShow

FROM TSP 21C
Nocturnal Animals
The Killing of a Sacred Deer

Have these shown up yet?

FROM 500<400
Brewster McCloud - if we are lucky

+ ?????

1 newly eligible filmShow

I don't think we have seen Bad Times at the El Royale show up yet.

???

[Lammetje]

Anywho, back to the poll. I was thinking it'd be nice to have smaller batches, now that we're in the top 50. Maybe three films per batch instead of five?

I usually do smaller batches starting Top 30/Top 20. I don't want to drag things out too much. I've been keeping my eye on the discussion when I'm awake, and slowing down posting results when there are more people talking about them. I'd like to finish them today (Sunday) so I can move on to other things during the week

Sounds good.

#44 (+3533, #3577) Happy Gilmore (1996, Dennis Dugan), 334.59 points, 17879 checks, 612 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 44, 3577, 215

5 votesShow

Perception de Ambiguity (#4)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
Blocho (unranked)
zzzorf (#38)
beasterne (#20)

Nice jump!

[Fergenaprido]

We've reached the top 25!

As best as I can tell, here's how it breaks down compared to the last poll in 2018:

16 returning Top 100 films
1 returning Top 250 film
7 recently unofficial films
1 newly eligible film

Put your guesses in spoiler tags!

7 recently unofficial filmsShow

FROM TSP 21C
Nocturnal Animals
The Killing of a Sacred Deer

Have these shown up yet?

FROM 500<400
Brewster McCloud - if we are lucky

+ ?????

1 newly eligible filmShow

I don't think we have seen Bad Times at the El Royale show up yet.

???

SpoilerShow

I counted TKoaSD as the newly eligible one since it's from 2017 so wasn't eligible last time based on the year. Forgot that it showed up on TSP21C in the meantime.

[Fergenaprido]

#25 (-21, #4) How the Grinch Stole Christmas! (1966, Chuck Jones), 391.94 points, 20060 checks, 576 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 25, 4, --

9 votesShow

Opio (#132)
Panunzio (#3)
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Fergenaprido (#132)
lineuphere (#134)
Ebbywebby (#172)
OldAle1 (#6)
beasterne (#8)
ChrisReynolds (unranked>67)

#24 (#new) Lucía y el sexo [Sex and Lucia] (2001, Julio Medem), 400.46 points, 2374 checks, 171 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 24, new, --

5 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#49)
jeff_v (#43)
Caracortada (#1)
Gorro (#4)
cinewest (#3)

#23 (+209, #232) Sleepers (1996, Barry Levinson), 418.01 points, 8469 checks, 487 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 23, 232, 467

8 votesShow

Gordon_Gekko (#48)
Fergenaprido (#191)
joachimt (#20)
zzzorf (#13)
Nathan Treadway (unranked)
shugs (#21)
mightysparks (#210)
sol (#23)

[Fergenaprido]

#22 (+33, #55) Murder by Death (1976, Robert Moore), 426.18 points, 1950 checks, 184 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 22, 55, 61

10 votesShow

Perception de Ambiguity (#42)
Gordon_Gekko (#6)
frbrown (#72)
Fergenaprido (#393)
Gorro (#304)
burneyfan (#28)
Nathan Treadway (unranked)
Cocoa (#25)
sol (#75)
mathiasa (#123)

#21 (+55, #76) Cinemania (2002, Angela Christlieb & Stephen Kijak), 444.78 points, 417 checks, 25 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 21, 76, --

10 votesShow

nimimerkillinen (unranked)
Clemmetarey (#9)
Perception de Ambiguity (#197)
Blocho (unranked)
joachimt (#35)
Ebbywebby (#107)
OldAle1 (unranked>100)
gromit82 (#43)
Gershwin (#49)
mathiasa (#36)

#20 (#new) Drowning by Numbers (1988, Peter Greenaway), 464.63 points, 1088 checks, 105 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 20, new, --

9 votesShow

rnilsson19 (#2)
TraverseTown (#204)
matthewscott8 (#134)
sortile9io (#1)
joachimt (#54)
Ebbywebby (#44)
OldAle1 (#72)
Smoover (#17)
mathiasa (#105)

[cinewest]

Awesome to see Lucia & El Sexo place this highly. In fact, I didn't realize that it was no longer on any lists until the last moment. Great film about passion and the creative process that will surely appear high up in my Romance list for the next poll, as well.

[lynchs]

SpoilerShow

Can't see the pic m8

SpoilerShow

Hmmm, it was just

SpoilerShow

Are the powers that be deterring a possible return of Carmedonna? Whomst keeps a rein on this prima donna's unwieldy puny homecoming? Maybe it's myself, the swelling insecurities resulting in one's own repression... The time might not yet be ripe



Stay gold, my Portuguese m8

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Carmedonna?

she was living here In Portugal, but got bored I think LOL

dunno if she is still here or not

[Fergenaprido]

Amy Adams double feature. Just like at the Oscars, she's a runner-up on icm as well



#19 (+30, #49) Doubt (2008, John Patrick Shanley), 464.81 points, 10837 checks, 601 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 19, 49, 11

9 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (unranked>110)
OBgeoff (#215)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
Gorro (#5)
Blocho (unranked)
Nathan Treadway (unranked)
shugs (#40)
beasterne (#45)
brokenface (#6)

#18 (#new) Nocturnal Animals (2016, Tom Ford), 468.41 points, 5724 checks, 559 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 18, new, --

9 votesShow

OBgeoff (#43)
Perception de Ambiguity (#438)
Gordon_Gekko (#56)
AB537 (#22)
filmbantha (#22)
OldAle1 (unranked>100)
shugs (#2)
sol (#68)
mathiasa (#25)

#17 (-8, #9) Beasts of No Nation (2015, Cary Joji Fukunaga), 469.92 points, 2624 checks, 214 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 17, 9, --

8 votesShow

Panunzio (#2)
Gordon_Gekko (#21)
AB537 (unranked>40)
filmbantha (#37)
Gorro (#20)
joachimt (#103)
Smoover (#24)
ChrisReynolds (unranked>67)

[Cocoa]

Murder by Death

[matthewscott8]

#26 (+20, #46) La fille inconnue [The Unknown Girl] (2016, Dardenne Brothers), 390.47 points, 460 checks, 19 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 26, 46, --

8 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#38)
matthewscott8 (#88)
outdoorcats (#101)
Gorro (#364)
burneyfan (#23)
3eyes (unranked>25)
72aicm (unranked)
Smoover (#9)

Yay for humanity

[matthewscott8]

which brings me to a question I often think about when reading post modern critics. Does an artist’s intention matter, or is value and meaning solely up to the viewer?

Such an essential question. I tend to think that it's worthwhile trying to understand authorial intention but that to give this intention primacy when it comes to interpretation is to make a bid for objectivity when the experience of all art is subjective. Once art is shared, understanding is no longer under the control of the person who created it.

So, if I can see something amazing in that little scrap of paper on the floor, it becomes amazing, at least to me, and if I can sell the idea to the right people, it can become as valuable as my ability to sell it.

Of course, it's not easy to interest a great many in a scrap of paper, no matter how you try to convince people to imagine it, but it is fairly easy to captivate an audience by stimulating certain neuro-receptors, and you don't even need much creativity, imagination, or skill to do so.

Abandonment of intent is often the spoor of the imbecile, but sticking to intent too rigidly is often the spoor of another type of imbecile. Maximise the available richness, know when an artist's subconscious got the better of their conscious, or where they produced a prism through which can shine divers and wondrous lights.

[Fergenaprido]

In this batch we have the highest-ranked film directed by a woman (and also the second highest film under 1000 checks)



#16 (+4, #20) Lord of War (2005, Andrew Niccol), 472.64 points, 20546 checks, 1234 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 16, 20, 45

11 votesShow

Perception de Ambiguity (#418)
explorer95 (#5)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
JimiAntiloop (#56)
Gordon_Gekko (#7)
Gorro (#336)
Cinephage (#191)
shugs (#26)
Smoover (#117)
jvv (unranked)
ChrisReynolds (unranked>67)

#15 (+14, #29) Brødre [Brothers] (2004, Susanne Bier), 475.37 points, 840 checks, 48 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 15, 29, 59

7 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#79)
Fergenaprido (#43)
Caracortada (#19)
Gorro (#25)
3eyes (#21)
cinewest (#5)
jvv (unranked)

#14 (-11, #3) The Place Beyond the Pines (2012, Derek Cianfrance), 486.08 points, 8935 checks, 733 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 14, 3, 31

13 votesShow

nimimerkillinen (unranked)
Lonewolf2003 (#30)
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#259)
TraverseTown (#281)
Gordon_Gekko (#136)
outdoorcats (#75)
Gorro (#39)
Blocho (unranked)
Lakigigar (#25)
joachimt (#97)
72aicm (unranked)
Smoover (#186)

[Fergenaprido]

And here we have the highest film with less than 10 voters. I'm sad it's now unofficial. I watched it for Audrey and Jean back together again, and while the romance strings the film together, I think it's the harrowing war scenes that really stand out. Plus Jodie Foster speaking French, and the film that introduced me (and maybe the rest of the non-Francophone world) to Marion Cotillard. What a powerhouse she is in this!



#13 (#new) Un long dimanche de fiançailles [A Very Long Engagement] (2004, Jean-Pierre Jeunet), 487.72 points, 5738 checks, 436 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 13, new, --

9 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#13)
OBgeoff (#107)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
Fergenaprido (#42)
outdoorcats (#68)
Gorro (#37)
joachimt (#45)
cinewest (#13)
Smoover (#101)

#12 (+36, #48) Killer Joe (2011, William Friedkin), 488.37 points, 3921 checks, 237 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 12, 48, --

12 votesShow

nimimerkillinen (unranked)
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#413)
Gordon_Gekko (#157)
AB537 (unranked>40)
filmbantha (#35)
Ebbywebby (#49)
mightysparks (#96)
jvv (unranked)
sol (#66)
brokenface (#84)
ChrisReynolds (#27)

#11 (+66, #77) My Cousin Vinny (1992, Jonathan Lynn), 492.66 points, 7681 checks, 520 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 11, 77, 65

10 votesShow

Opio (#70)
OBgeoff (#242)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
peeptoad (unranked>56)
Blocho (unranked)
3eyes (unranked>25)
gromit82 (#1)
shugs (#38)
beasterne (#2)
sol (#122)

[Fergenaprido]

#10 (-4, #6) Mud (2012, Jeff Nichols), 527.95 points, 8638 checks, 605 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 10, 6, --

13 votesShow

Panunzio (#6)
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Gordon_Gekko (#40)
outdoorcats (#155)
Gorro (#90)
peeptoad (unranked>56)
Blocho (unranked)
joachimt (#56)
3eyes (unranked>25)
Nathan Treadway (unranked)
Gershwin (#17)
Smoover (#162)
sol (#234)

#9 (+1, #10) Stranger Than Fiction (2006, Marc Forster), 546.56 points, 25734 checks, 1847 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 9, 10, 20

13 votesShow

Lonewolf2003 (#94)
Perception de Ambiguity (#682)
explorer95 (#7)
Gordon_Gekko (#148)
filmbantha (#26)
Gorro (#3)
joachimt (#100)
Cinephage (#24)
mightysparks (#316)
Smoover (#144)
beasterne (#61)
Cocoa (#67)
sol (#52)