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iCM Forum's Favourite Films on 0 Official Lists - Results [2020 edition]

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Re: iCM Forum's Favourite Films on 0 Official Lists - Results [2020 edition]

#281

Post by AB537 » August 11th, 2020, 9:16 pm

Thanks Fergenaprido for putting in the work to compile this one, definitely an interesting list and lots of things that look worthwhile to explore going forward, including several on my existing watchlist.

Seen: 62/250
Highest unchecked: #8 Le passé - The Past (which I definitely want to see - liked everything from Farhadi I've seen so far)
Favourites: 5/62
Highest favourite: #2 Carnage

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#282

Post by burneyfan » August 11th, 2020, 11:24 pm

Seen: 140/250 (56%)
Highest unchecked: Carnage (#2)
Voted for 13/250 (5% 250 total, 9% of 140 seen)
Number of dislikes: 1
Top vote not included in the list: Ginrei no hate (Taniguchi, 1947)

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#283

Post by Lammetje » August 12th, 2020, 11:15 am

Thanks for hosting, Fergie! I've seen only 35/250 (3 favorites and 0 dislikes).
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#284

Post by matthewscott8 » August 17th, 2020, 9:00 am

Boy Meets Girl (1984 - Leos Carax) - I watched this 0 check movie last night and was blown away, yet it does not appear to have made the top 1000 even. Maybe people assumed it was an official check? Any love out there for this movie. I will be voting for it next time for sure.

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#285

Post by Fergenaprido » August 17th, 2020, 11:24 am

matthewscott8 wrote:
August 17th, 2020, 9:00 am
Boy Meets Girl (1984 - Leos Carax) - I watched this 0 check movie last night and was blown away, yet it does not appear to have made the top 1000 even. Maybe people assumed it was an official check? Any love out there for this movie. I will be voting for it next time for sure.
Would have been ranked #3279 with three votes and 38.731 points

Opio (#114)
Ebbywebby (#157)
OldAle1 (unranked>100)

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#286

Post by St. Gloede » August 17th, 2020, 7:53 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
August 9th, 2020, 4:36 pm
cinewest wrote:
August 8th, 2020, 2:46 pm
blocho wrote:
August 8th, 2020, 1:51 pm


Such an essential question. I tend to think that it's worthwhile trying to understand authorial intention but that to give this intention primacy when it comes to interpretation is to make a bid for objectivity when the experience of all art is subjective. Once art is shared, understanding is no longer under the control of the person who created it.
So, if I can see something amazing in that little scrap of paper on the floor, it becomes amazing, at least to me, and if I can sell the idea to the right people, it can become as valuable as my ability to sell it.

Of course, it's not easy to interest a great many in a scrap of paper, no matter how you try to convince people to imagine it, but it is fairly easy to captivate an audience by stimulating certain neuro-receptors, and you don't even need much creativity, imagination, or skill to do so.
Abandonment of intent is often the spoor of the imbecile, but sticking to intent too rigidly is often the spoor of another type of imbecile. Maximise the available richness, know when an artist's subconscious got the better of their conscious, or where they produced a prism through which can shine divers and wondrous lights.
One thing I love about reading interviews with Eric Rohmer is that in almost every situation where an interviewer provides him with an interpretation or asks about an intent, he well say something akin to "I didn't do it consciously, but it is possible" or "That was not my interpretation, but it makes so much sense" or even "That could very well be true" - in one interview, I believe it was after A winter's Tale the interviewer even spotted something which Rohmer didn't know he had added - the interviewer mentioned similarities to a writer, and Rohmer got really interested as he had been re-reading him and realized that motifs/styles had snuck in. I do think there is something very interesting with directors who make their films in such an open way (but then Rohmer often made films to disprove an idea he himself had, or present the best counter to it - so everything being true makes sense for him).

I think we can appreciate films in many different ways. Intent is one, and it is great and can be very, very clear - like the Wachowskis clarifying hat The Matrix is a trans metaphor - yes, obviously take that onboard as the intent, or a intent - but then there is also the area of what can be read into a film - or how it CAN be understood - or how a film has actually been understood. These are every bit as real, and exploring why a film was read X way, is also intriguing - as is finding utterly outlandish but possible interpretations - it can be a really fun intellectual exercise - and I suppose that is the beauty of art - i.e. that there are so many contexts and frameworks you can assess them by,

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#287

Post by St. Gloede » August 17th, 2020, 8:01 pm

Thank you for hosting, Fergenaprido! I'm quite annoyed I didn't vote - and I agree re: result assessment - may I also add in ICMFF films - and of course that makes a lot of sense.

Seen:

137/250
354/1000

Highest unseen:

Brothers
Beasts of No Nation
Cinemania
How the Grinch Stole Christmas!
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » August 18th, 2020, 3:36 pm

Thank for hosting Ferge! I have seen exactly 50% of the list.

Btw, you have to update the descripion in the list ;)

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#289

Post by Fergenaprido » August 18th, 2020, 8:25 pm

Sorry, kept forgetting. Updated now.

Also, that reminds me I forgot to post the new screenshots for you and Joachim to add to your databases. All of them are new except 3 where I used alternate screenshots.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080100/ http://i.imgur.com/yfUGMM7.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6587706/ http://i.imgur.com/SFBFJyV.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227408/ http://i.imgur.com/l8Rv5DE.png
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6205872/ http://i.imgur.com/vdbFOLs.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/ http://i.imgur.com/iCrRxDj.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2844798/ http://i.imgur.com/yjZ2GFF.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7738450/ http://i.imgur.com/WdogB9M.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057546/ http://i.imgur.com/DO5dzR3.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060867/ http://i.imgur.com/rCQcZlr.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112688/ http://i.imgur.com/oGuKlmZ.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0376541/ http://i.imgur.com/P8K8iJc.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1932767/ http://i.imgur.com/Fj74x.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3825360/ http://i.imgur.com/FLPcwVU.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1470023/ http://i.imgur.com/qXxpuWb.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4769042/ http://i.imgur.com/XdxdIbU.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066318/ http://i.imgur.com/axK0DeQ.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388474/ http://i.imgur.com/Akdi7Oc.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2406566/ http://i.imgur.com/T5yJuGp.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4929038/ http://i.imgur.com/YYAL68k.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120176/ http://i.imgur.com/G8oDpMw.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247568/ http://i.imgur.com/fiIkmUU.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4666726/ http://i.imgur.com/GKkVzK1.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479884/ http://i.imgur.com/GLomguN.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089049/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1931533/ http://i.imgur.com/ymbifX1.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386032/ http://i.imgur.com/YSKuOBk.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266452/ http://i.imgur.com/aFtFUOX.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051568/ http://i.imgur.com/jm9oEGa.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124811/ http://i.imgur.com/2V178Rr.jpg alt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1661420/ http://i.imgur.com/wibxhEn.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071897/ http://i.imgur.com/DJo5ikd.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2301059/ http://i.imgur.com/CKBg9DD.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5106736/ http://i.imgur.com/dclnGGB.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1440728/ http://i.imgur.com/L1SyeMI.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472062/ http://i.imgur.com/0ZBNy9V.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt9495224/ http://i.imgur.com/m2U5b2f.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074710/ http://i.imgur.com/4FO5kJT.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2366608/ http://i.imgur.com/xgErDTq.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5827212/ http://i.imgur.com/cJlqB1i.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0988108/ http://i.imgur.com/X0p9lr0.png
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1570728/ http://i.imgur.com/fWERTzf.jpg alt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1598778/ http://i.imgur.com/Snsnh3N.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061204/ http://i.imgur.com/ZgXqhEO.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139239/ http://i.imgur.com/nZpp3Zq.png
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0806686/ http://i.imgur.com/dO8gQaZ.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100623/ http://i.imgur.com/MpleKR3.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104756/ http://i.imgur.com/UJOQIj7.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910860/ http://i.imgur.com/qSGJiic.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1659343/ http://i.imgur.com/MQksZ5W.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074974/ http://i.imgur.com/hOcYAk1.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5657856/ http://i.imgur.com/cYviHLQ.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7668870/ http://i.imgur.com/E1GgS3E.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120768/ http://i.imgur.com/NhXtwYT.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1855199/ http://i.imgur.com/SMQEQDT.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116483/ http://i.imgur.com/g7J6UA2.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1615147/ http://i.imgur.com/4IGj1zJ.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5691670/ http://i.imgur.com/1YLQirG.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7959216/ http://i.imgur.com/qiia0da.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4613254/ http://i.imgur.com/3LqbkrK.jpg alt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425210/ http://i.imgur.com/10wfnSX.jpg

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#290

Post by Lonewolf2003 » August 23rd, 2020, 3:13 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 18th, 2020, 8:25 pm
Sorry, kept forgetting. Updated now.

Also, that reminds me I forgot to post the new screenshots for you and Joachim to add to your databases. All of them are new except 3 where I used alternate screenshots.
screenshotsShow
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080100/ http://i.imgur.com/yfUGMM7.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6587706/ http://i.imgur.com/SFBFJyV.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227408/ http://i.imgur.com/l8Rv5DE.png
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6205872/ http://i.imgur.com/vdbFOLs.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/ http://i.imgur.com/iCrRxDj.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2844798/ http://i.imgur.com/yjZ2GFF.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7738450/ http://i.imgur.com/WdogB9M.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057546/ http://i.imgur.com/DO5dzR3.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060867/ http://i.imgur.com/rCQcZlr.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112688/ http://i.imgur.com/oGuKlmZ.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0376541/ http://i.imgur.com/P8K8iJc.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1932767/ http://i.imgur.com/Fj74x.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3825360/ http://i.imgur.com/FLPcwVU.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1470023/ http://i.imgur.com/qXxpuWb.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4769042/ http://i.imgur.com/XdxdIbU.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066318/ http://i.imgur.com/axK0DeQ.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388474/ http://i.imgur.com/Akdi7Oc.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2406566/ http://i.imgur.com/T5yJuGp.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4929038/ http://i.imgur.com/YYAL68k.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120176/ http://i.imgur.com/G8oDpMw.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247568/ http://i.imgur.com/fiIkmUU.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4666726/ http://i.imgur.com/GKkVzK1.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479884/ http://i.imgur.com/GLomguN.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089049/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1931533/ http://i.imgur.com/ymbifX1.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386032/ http://i.imgur.com/YSKuOBk.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266452/ http://i.imgur.com/aFtFUOX.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051568/ http://i.imgur.com/jm9oEGa.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124811/ http://i.imgur.com/2V178Rr.jpg alt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1661420/ http://i.imgur.com/wibxhEn.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071897/ http://i.imgur.com/DJo5ikd.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2301059/ http://i.imgur.com/CKBg9DD.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5106736/ http://i.imgur.com/dclnGGB.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1440728/ http://i.imgur.com/L1SyeMI.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472062/ http://i.imgur.com/0ZBNy9V.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt9495224/ http://i.imgur.com/m2U5b2f.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074710/ http://i.imgur.com/4FO5kJT.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2366608/ http://i.imgur.com/xgErDTq.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5827212/ http://i.imgur.com/cJlqB1i.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0988108/ http://i.imgur.com/X0p9lr0.png
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1570728/ http://i.imgur.com/fWERTzf.jpg alt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1598778/ http://i.imgur.com/Snsnh3N.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061204/ http://i.imgur.com/ZgXqhEO.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139239/ http://i.imgur.com/nZpp3Zq.png
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0806686/ http://i.imgur.com/dO8gQaZ.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100623/ http://i.imgur.com/MpleKR3.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104756/ http://i.imgur.com/UJOQIj7.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910860/ http://i.imgur.com/qSGJiic.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1659343/ http://i.imgur.com/MQksZ5W.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074974/ http://i.imgur.com/hOcYAk1.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5657856/ http://i.imgur.com/cYviHLQ.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7668870/ http://i.imgur.com/E1GgS3E.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120768/ http://i.imgur.com/NhXtwYT.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1855199/ http://i.imgur.com/SMQEQDT.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116483/ http://i.imgur.com/g7J6UA2.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1615147/ http://i.imgur.com/4IGj1zJ.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5691670/ http://i.imgur.com/1YLQirG.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7959216/ http://i.imgur.com/qiia0da.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4613254/ http://i.imgur.com/3LqbkrK.jpg alt
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425210/ http://i.imgur.com/10wfnSX.jpg
Thanks I added them. And made a shared masterlist, everyone can use: viewtopic.php?p=658355#p658355

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