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iCM Forum's Favourite Films on 0 Official Lists - Results [2020 edition]

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 4th, 2020, 4:19 pm

iCM Forums' Favourite Films on Zero Official Lists

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Halflife of 50 was used again for this poll.

Thanks to everyone who submitted a list.

60 ParticipantsShow
Reminder: All lists are considered fully ranked unless otherwise stated.
Onderhond
jvv (unranked)
lakigigar
Gorro
outdoorcats
lilarcor
Teproc
TraverseTown
explorer95
Ebbywebby
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
clemmetarey
Cinephage
zzzorf
mightysparks
shugs
72aicm (unranked)
blocho (unranked)
beavis
beasterne
pitchorneirda
Lammetje(Top 7 ranked)
Opio
RBG (unranked)
burneyfan
sortile9io
AB537(Top 40 ranked)
Caracortada
matthewscott8
cinewest
rnilsson19
Pretentious Hipster
Cocoa
Smoover
Gordon_Gekko
joachimt (Top 167 ranked)
Melvelet (Top 30 ranked)
Nathan Treadway (unranked)
Y U M E
ChrisReynolds (Top 67 ranked)
frbrown
filmbantha
peeptoad (Top 56 ranked)
Lonewolf2003 (Top 110 ranked)
Jimi Antiloop (Top 255 ranked)
Panunzio
OBgeoff
sol
3eyes (Top 25 ranked)
jeff_v
maxwelldeux
nimimerkillinen (unranked)
lineuphere
mathiasa
OldAle1 (Top 100)
gromit82
Gershwin
Fergenaprido
brokenface
Perception de Ambiguity

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#2

Post by Fergenaprido » August 4th, 2020, 4:20 pm

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#3

Post by Fergenaprido » August 4th, 2020, 4:32 pm

We have 41 returning voters (68%), so there should be a fair amount of stability in the results, but there are definitely a lot of changes, primarily to old favourites becoming official and new favourites becoming unofficial. Overall there are only 3 fewer participants than last time, while the lists seem to be longer and more robust.
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bjornam
Carmel1379
connordenney
Cynical Cinephile
edward5
flaiky
hurluberlu
Ivan0716
Leopardi
Mate_cosido
MNA
musikurt
paul281f
PeacefulAnarchy
perceval
sebby
St. Gloede
Tarris1
tommy_leazaq
weirdboy
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AB537
beasterne
burneyfan
explorer95
frbrown
Gordon_Gekko
lakigigar
Lammetje
lilarcor
lineuphere
matthewscott8
Melvelet
OBgeoff
Opio
outdoorcats
peeptoad
pitchorneirda
shugs
Y U M E

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#4

Post by Fergenaprido » August 4th, 2020, 4:57 pm

All right. Starting things off with some runners up. I've changed the formatting a little from the last edition, so let me know if it works for you or not. It took me some time to figure out the little changes, especially the colour coding for the ranking changes in the Poll History (a new section since last time there was only 1 previous edition), but I think I've got it to work properly now.

The most-voted film in the Top 1000 that didn't make the Top 250 - everyone likes it, but nobody loves it (it also finished #1000 in our recent 2010s decade poll)

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#638 (-492, #146) Side Effects (2013, Steven Soderbergh), 120.45 points, 7093 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 638, 146, 105
8 votesShow
Perception de Ambiguity (#713)
JimiAntiloop (unranked>255)
Gorro (#106)
joachimt (unranked>167)
Cinephage (#82)
mightysparks (#214)
sol (#61)
brokenface (#149)


The most-checked film in the Top 1000 that didn't make the Top 250 - many have seen it, but few have really appreciated it

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#679 (-520, #159) The Illusionist (2006, Neil Burger), 115.68 points, 25528 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 679, 159, 106
3 votesShow
AB537 (#13)
Gorro (#102)
OldAle1 (unranked>100)


My personal #1 pick, which didn't make the Top 250, but it's criminal that it's not an official check and that others don't agree with me :P

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#832 (-662, #170) Angels in America (2003, Mike Nichols), 100 points, 1700 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 832, N/A, N/A
1 votesShow
Fergenaprido (#1)


And a random film that was in the 2015 list but not the 2018 list but is back in the 2020 list so that I can check where I made a mistake in my code to display the poll history correctly :ph43r:

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#304 (#new) Go West (1923, Len Powers), 168.54 points, 263 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: N/Anew, 107
5 votesShow
Perception de Ambiguity (#2)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
joachimt (unranked>167)
Cocoa (#615)
mathiasa (#171)

Hmmm, okay, I need to figure out that last part to make the poll history correct... but everything else looks good (ignore the broken image for Go West).

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Post by OldAle1 » August 4th, 2020, 5:12 pm

The Illusionist had the misfortune of coming out at almost the exact same time as the somewhat similar The Prestige. Curiously they both made about the same amount of money (according to Wiki), and given that The Illusionist was significantly lower-budgeted it was more profitable. They have almost the exact same RT score - 74 vs 76%. Each got an Oscar nom for Cinematography - the Nolan film was also nominated for Art Direction. I remember liking both about the same - why has one of them retained so much more of the cinephile's consciousness? Just the director? Curious.

And I've meant to watch Angels in America forever. But, y'know, TV miniseries, long, all that. Thanks for pushing it though, I really should make it a higher priority.

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 4th, 2020, 5:28 pm

Well, I managed to fix half of the issue, but can't figure out the formula for the rest. So films that weren't in the 2018 list will display as "new" as their rank instead of "--", in red if they were in the 2015 list and in green if they are showing up for the first time in the 2020 list. :shrug:

Here are the ten runners-up (without pics)

#260 (+4742, #5002) Deadfall (1968, Bryan Forbes), 179.93 points, 42 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 260, 5002, --
3 votesShow
Perception de Ambiguity (#20)
matthewscott8 (#9)
sol (#145)


#259 (+80, #339) Blow (2001, Ted Demme), 180.12 points, 15701 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 259, 339, 378
5 votesShow
OBgeoff (#65)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
Gordon_Gekko (#141)
filmbantha (#64)
Ebbywebby (#105)


#258 (+538, #796) Spacy (1981, Takashi Ito), 180.15 points, 100 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 258, 796, 1896
4 votesShow
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#147)
frbrown (#59)
Lilarcor (#13)


#257 (+913, #1170) Donald in Mathmagic Land (1959, Hamilton Luske), 180.54 points, 584 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 257, 1170, 292
6 votesShow
Perception de Ambiguity (#260)
frbrown (#76)
Ebbywebby (#116)
OldAle1 (unranked>100)
Teproc (#50)
ChrisReynolds (#32)


#256 (#new) The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1981, Alan J.W. Bell), 180.8 points, 558 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 256, new, --
3 votesShow
JimiAntiloop (#44)
Ebbywebby (#99)
zzzorf (#1)


#255 (+2371, #2626) Les aventures de Rabbi Jacob [The Adventures of Rabbi Jacob] (1973, Gérard Oury), 180.82 points, 901 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 255, 2626, 750
3 votesShow
Caracortada (#21)
Cinephage (#45)
shugs (#50)


#254 (-164, #90) Ajeossi [The Man from Nowhere] (2010, Lee Jeong-beom), 180.91 points, 3432 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 254, 90, 91
4 votesShow
Gordon_Gekko (#131)
filmbantha (#5)
Gorro (#47)
Cinephage (#129)


#253 (#new) Den skyldige [The Guilty] (2018, Gustav Möller), 180.92 points, 1074 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 253, new, --
5 votesShow
Lonewolf2003 (#61)
Gorro (#100)
joachimt (#30)
3eyes (unranked>25)
sol (#204)


#252 (#new) Molly's Game (2017, Aaron Sorkin), 181.56 points, 2696 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 252, new, --
5 votesShow
AB537 (#23)
Gorro (#192)
shugs (#37)
beasterne (#78)
sol (#208)


#251 (+2774, #3025) Kokuriko-zaka kara [From Up on Poppy Hill] (2011, Goro Miyazaki), 181.67 points, 2930 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 251, 3025, 351
5 votesShow
Lammetje (unranked>7)
Fergenaprido (#220)
sortile9io (#40)
3eyes (unranked>25)
Cinephage (#116)
And I just realized that AKAs aren't showing up for the non-English titles. Hmm, I'll have to fix that too (added the ones in here manually for now). Looks like I never added them to my results spreadsheet in the first place. Weird.

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#7

Post by beasterne » August 4th, 2020, 5:48 pm

Results! :banana:

Re: The Illusionist, I only saw this once but it was definitely affected by my viewing of The Prestige. I expected The Illusionist to be another twist-filled mystery, but if I recall I think it was a lot more of a character study which threw me off. Probably deserves a second watch at some point.

Re: Angels in America, I watched the first episode of this a couple years ago, and found it very soap opera-y. I probably should have stuck with it through a couple more to give it more of a chance, but I just wasn't motivated to keep watching after that first episode.

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Post by Lammetje » August 4th, 2020, 5:58 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 5:28 pm
#251 (+2774, #3025) Kokuriko-zaka kara [From Up on Poppy Hill] (2011, Goro Miyazaki), 181.67 points, 2930 checks (IMDb)
Poll History: 251, 3025, 351
5 votesShow
Lammetje (unranked>7)
Fergenaprido (#220)
sortile9io (#40)
3eyes (unranked>25)
Cinephage (#116)
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Post by Onderhond » August 4th, 2020, 6:00 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 5:12 pm
The Illusionist had the misfortune of coming out at almost the exact same time as the somewhat similar The Prestige. Curiously they both made about the same amount of money (according to Wiki), and given that The Illusionist was significantly lower-budgeted it was more profitable. They have almost the exact same RT score - 74 vs 76%. Each got an Oscar nom for Cinematography - the Nolan film was also nominated for Art Direction. I remember liking both about the same - why has one of them retained so much more of the cinephile's consciousness? Just the director? Curious.

And I've meant to watch Angels in America forever. But, y'know, TV miniseries, long, all that. Thanks for pushing it though, I really should make it a higher priority.
The Prestige was a much "cooler" film though, with witty plot twists and all. Much more a boy's film. The Illusionist was a lot softer and more romantic, so as far as target audience (and internet cred) goes, The Prestige definitely had an advantage there.

Personally I preferred The Illusionist by a big margin, but need to watch it again because I've only seen it once and don't remember too much of it.

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Post by OldAle1 » August 4th, 2020, 6:08 pm

Onderhond wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 6:00 pm
OldAle1 wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 5:12 pm
The Illusionist had the misfortune of coming out at almost the exact same time as the somewhat similar The Prestige. Curiously they both made about the same amount of money (according to Wiki), and given that The Illusionist was significantly lower-budgeted it was more profitable. They have almost the exact same RT score - 74 vs 76%. Each got an Oscar nom for Cinematography - the Nolan film was also nominated for Art Direction. I remember liking both about the same - why has one of them retained so much more of the cinephile's consciousness? Just the director? Curious.

And I've meant to watch Angels in America forever. But, y'know, TV miniseries, long, all that. Thanks for pushing it though, I really should make it a higher priority.
The Prestige was a much "cooler" film though, with witty plot twists and all. Much more a boy's film. The Illusionist was a lot softer and more romantic, so as far as target audience (and internet cred) goes, The Prestige definitely had an advantage there.

Personally I preferred The Illusionist by a big margin, but need to watch it again because I've only seen it once and don't remember too much of it.
That seems fair. Don't remember either of them that well myself. Started to re-watch the Nolan a few years ago but something happened - I think it was a disc and it didn't work or something. Very rare that I don't finish a film, even when it's a re-watch, so there must have been a good reason.

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Post by blocho » August 4th, 2020, 7:06 pm

I'm excited for this. This list is always the most surprising and unpredictable.

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Post by Lilarcor » August 4th, 2020, 7:29 pm

People should really watch Spacy, it's wild. :D

I have a bit of a soft spot for the 1981 version of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, but it's been a long time since I saw it. The 2005-something film got the robot all wrong!

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#250 (#new) Medea (1988, Lars von Trier), 181.67 points, 492 checks, 35 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 250, new, --
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Perception de Ambiguity (#395)
matthewscott8 (#14)
OldAle1 (#68)
beavis (#40)

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#249 (+584, #833) Stridulum [The Visitor] (1979, Giulio Paradisi), 181.85 points, 260 checks, 11 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 249, 833, --
3 votesShow
TraverseTown (#1)
beavis (#33)
sol (#126)

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#248 (-124, #124) ...And Justice for All. (1979, Norman Jewison), 182.13 points, 1548 checks, 121 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 248, 124, 3072
4 votesShow
Perception de Ambiguity (#325)
gromit82 (#55)
shugs (#56)
sol (#11)

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#247 (#new) El mar la mar (2017, Joshua Bonnetta & J.P. Sniadecki), 182.4 points, 27 checks, 6 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 247, new, --
3 votesShow
Pretentious Hipster (#141)
matthewscott8 (#22)
Lilarcor (#6)

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#246 (+981, #1227) Rubber's Lover (1996, Shozin Fukui), 183.36 points, 87 checks, 11 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 246, 1227, 3444
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Clemmetarey (#20)
beavis (#14)
Onderhond (#107)

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Post by Lilarcor » August 4th, 2020, 7:42 pm

El mar la mar is a 16mm treasure, immersing audiovisuals of a harsh landscape. Great start to the top 250!

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Post by outdoorcats » August 4th, 2020, 7:42 pm

*guiltily remembers that he still hasn't watched past the first episode of Angels in America*

...

Honestly it never occurred to me to include The Visitor as a so-bad-its-good pick, but maybe I should have. I had the good fortune to see the Alamo Drafthouse restored print in theaters. :cheers: I wrote this review back then in 2013, and it's still one of my most upvoted reviews on IMDb:
This oddball midnight movie is getting a re-release and eventual DVD courtesy of the Alamo Drafthouse.

It's about an evil little girl, who is so evil that John Huston and his pacifist army of intergalactic bald yoga practitioners arrive from space to stop her. Meanwhile Lance Henriksen is the evil boyfriend of her clueless, innocent mother, who sold his soul to the satanic forces nurturing her in a Faustian bargain for...a basketball coach position.

Which leads to the early and highly memorable slo-mo basketball set-piece, easily one of the most unique choices of setting for a horror film sequence I've ever seen!

The atmosphere of this weird, weird film alternates between genuinely and oddly poetic (mostly thanks to the music), pure B-movie cheese, and unintentional hilarity. It's one of the strangest films I've ever seen, but that's not a bad thing in this case. If you give yourself over to its strange charms, this is some kind of consciousness-expanding experience.

Will you like it? There are folks who seek out these sorts of bizarre, unique B-movies. You know who you are. At the very least, you should [find] this film an object of curiosity.

Somehow, and for some reason, John Huston, Glenn Ford, Franco Nero (as Jesus Christ), Shelley Winters, Lance Henriksen, Sam Peckinpah, Mel Ferrer and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar are all in this movie.

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Post by matthewscott8 » August 4th, 2020, 8:00 pm

good start to the results so far. more people should see Medea for sure

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#245 (-103, #142) Enemy at the Gates (2001, Jean-Jacques Annaud) , 184.19 points, 10462 checks, 568 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 245, 142, 127
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Panunzio (#45)
OBgeoff (#130)
matthewscott8 (#325)
Gorro (#425)
joachimt (#43)
shugs (#43)

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#244 (+615, #859) Angela (1995, Rebecca Miller), 184.2 points, 51 checks, 7 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 244, 859, 674
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TraverseTown (#4)
sol (#10)

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#243 (#new) Assassination Nation (2018, Sam Levinson), 184.61 points, 385 checks, 16 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 243, new, --
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TraverseTown (#12)
Lakigigar (#2)
Cinephage (#481)

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#242 (+989, #1231) Obsluhoval jsem anglického krále [ I Served the King of England] (2006, Jiří Menzel), 184.62 points, 343 checks, 37 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 242, 1231, 1536
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OBgeoff (#175)
matthewscott8 (#6)
cinewest (#15)

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#241 (#new) Blue Ruin (2013, Jeremy Saulnier), 184.8 points, 3559 checks, 260 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 241, new, 89
6 votesShow
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#813)
Gordon_Gekko (#137)
outdoorcats (#72)
Blocho (unranked)
Melvelet (unranked>30)

Only three 2-vote films made the Top 250. Angela is the first one to show up.

I'm off to bed shortly. I'll continue the count-down tomorrow. If there are any errors so far, let me know and I'll fix them before resuming. :)

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 4th, 2020, 8:11 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 8:03 pm
#241 (#new) Blue Ruin (2013, Jeremy Saulnier), 184.8 points, 3559 checks, 260 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 241, new, 89
6 votesShow
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#813)
Gordon_Gekko (#137)
outdoorcats (#72)
Blocho (unranked)
Melvelet (unranked>30)
I'll check afterwards to see if there is a trend, but I suspect that films that recently became unofficial didn't fare as well as they did because people thought they were still official. Blue Ruin is a good example as it did quite well in the first poll (granted, with a slightly different userbase and halflife). I haven't seen it yet, but did anyone forget to vote for it because they thought it was still official?

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Post by blocho » August 4th, 2020, 8:37 pm

outdoorcats wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 7:42 pm
Somehow, and for some reason, John Huston, Glenn Ford, Franco Nero (as Jesus Christ), Shelley Winters, Lance Henriksen, Sam Peckinpah, Mel Ferrer and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar are all in this movie.
Added it to my watchlist.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » August 4th, 2020, 9:09 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 8:11 pm
Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 8:03 pm
#241 (#new) Blue Ruin (2013, Jeremy Saulnier), 184.8 points, 3559 checks, 260 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 241, new, 89
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GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#813)
Gordon_Gekko (#137)
outdoorcats (#72)
Blocho (unranked)
Melvelet (unranked>30)
I'll check afterwards to see if there is a trend, but I suspect that films that recently became unofficial didn't fare as well as they did because people thought they were still official. Blue Ruin is a good example as it did quite well in the first poll (granted, with a slightly different userbase and halflife). I haven't seen it yet, but did anyone forget to vote for it because they thought it was still official?
Well I’m glad I noticed that it was no longer official and added it to my list. What official list had it been on? TSPDT 21st century, I assume?
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Post by AB537 » August 4th, 2020, 9:15 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 6:08 pm
Onderhond wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 6:00 pm
OldAle1 wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 5:12 pm
The Illusionist had the misfortune of coming out at almost the exact same time as the somewhat similar The Prestige. Curiously they both made about the same amount of money (according to Wiki), and given that The Illusionist was significantly lower-budgeted it was more profitable. They have almost the exact same RT score - 74 vs 76%. Each got an Oscar nom for Cinematography - the Nolan film was also nominated for Art Direction. I remember liking both about the same - why has one of them retained so much more of the cinephile's consciousness? Just the director? Curious.

And I've meant to watch Angels in America forever. But, y'know, TV miniseries, long, all that. Thanks for pushing it though, I really should make it a higher priority.
The Prestige was a much "cooler" film though, with witty plot twists and all. Much more a boy's film. The Illusionist was a lot softer and more romantic, so as far as target audience (and internet cred) goes, The Prestige definitely had an advantage there.

Personally I preferred The Illusionist by a big margin, but need to watch it again because I've only seen it once and don't remember too much of it.
That seems fair. Don't remember either of them that well myself. Started to re-watch the Nolan a few years ago but something happened - I think it was a disc and it didn't work or something. Very rare that I don't finish a film, even when it's a re-watch, so there must have been a good reason.
I like both of these and agree that even though they're both about magicians, they're very different films. If pressed, I think I marginally the Prestige, which tends to be unfairly forgotten in discussions of Nolan's films, although I think it's at least among his best.

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Post by Onderhond » August 4th, 2020, 9:15 pm

Haven't seen Blue Ruin yet, mostly because I wasn't too taken with his other films.

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Post by outdoorcats » August 4th, 2020, 10:19 pm

blocho wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 8:37 pm
outdoorcats wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 7:42 pm
Somehow, and for some reason, John Huston, Glenn Ford, Franco Nero (as Jesus Christ), Shelley Winters, Lance Henriksen, Sam Peckinpah, Mel Ferrer and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar are all in this movie.
Added it to my watchlist.
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Post by TraverseTown » August 4th, 2020, 10:42 pm

Onderhond wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 9:15 pm
Haven't seen Blue Ruin yet, mostly because I wasn't too taken with his other films.
I found Green Room to be far superior where Blue Ruin comes across as charmlessly amateurish in places.

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Post by TraverseTown » August 4th, 2020, 10:49 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 8:03 pm
Only three 2-vote films made the Top 250. Angela is the first one to show up.
I hope it’s The Flying Luna Clipper so I can be one of the voters for both of them :whistling:

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Post by sol » August 4th, 2020, 11:32 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 8:03 pm
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#244 (+615, #859) Angela (1995, Rebecca Miller), 184.2 points, 51 checks, 7 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 244, 859, 674
2 votesShow
TraverseTown (#4)
sol (#10)
Ferg - can you please change the forum archive image for Angela? That screenshot does not nearly capture the mood or atmosphere of the film. It is a borderline horror film about a young girl who sees demons. I'm kind of not surprised that everybody is like "Traverse and Sol must be mad; that film looks so dull" with a screenshot like that always following the film around on here.

My alternative screencaps:

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My summary of the film for this year's 1000<400 Challenge
Elements of horror, mystery and fantasy come together in this story of a precocious preteen girl who believes that devil is responsible for her mother's mental illness. She also perceives various people as good or bad angles, has visions of the Devil incarnate and becomes obsessed with bizarre sins cleansing rituals. This is a bit of a folie à deux tale too as we also see some of her sister's visions. Stacks up well to second viewing. Great ending.
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Post by cinewest » August 5th, 2020, 1:21 am

matthewscott8 wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 8:00 pm
good start to the results so far. more people should see Medea for sure
Medea has been on my list to see for a long time. I wonder if any of my top 10 will appear?

I Served the King of England was #15 on my list and #6 on yours, but it only got one other lowish vote. Nice to see it finally cracked the top 250, though on the strength of 2 or 3 votes.

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Post by lineuphere » August 5th, 2020, 2:11 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 4:57 pm
My personal #1 pick, which didn't make the Top 250, but it's criminal that it's not an official check and that others don't agree with me :P

#832 (-662, #170) Angels in America (2003, Mike Nichols), 100 points, 1700 checks (IMDb)
GAH!
I'm so foolish. I'm not sure how in the world I didn't have this checked on ICM. I watched this on it's premiere broadcast way back when.
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Post by PGonzalez » August 5th, 2020, 2:30 am

sol wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 11:32 pm

Ferg - can you please change the forum archive image for Angela? That screenshot does not nearly capture the mood or atmosphere of the film. It is a borderline horror film about a young girl who sees demons. I'm kind of not surprised that everybody is like "Traverse and Sol must be mad; that film looks so dull" with a screenshot like that always following the film around on here.
I actually thought that the original screencap looked a lot more interesting. I will still try to watch it someday (it's been on my watchlist for a while) but I think that if any of those screenshots were what I saw when this film popped up in this forum my interest would have cooled a bit. :D

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Post by beavis » August 5th, 2020, 7:42 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 7:30 pm
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That first batch had three of my nominations already! Don't know if that is a good or bad sign though... ;)

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Post by Onderhond » August 5th, 2020, 8:00 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 7:30 pm
#246 (+981, #1227) Rubber's Lover (1996, Shozin Fukui), 183.36 points, 87 checks, 11 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 246, 1227, 3444
3 votesShow
Clemmetarey (#20)
beavis (#14)
Onderhond (#107)
Incidentally, it's Fukui's birthday today!

I wonder what kind of lists you'd need to get films like this official (don't think cyberpunk is a big enough niche for a standalone list). Guess it missed its chance with the 366 Weird.

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Post by beavis » August 5th, 2020, 8:09 am

Onderhond wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 8:00 am
I wonder what kind of lists you'd need to get films like this official (don't think cyberpunk is a big enough niche for a standalone list). Guess it missed its chance with the 366 Weird.
From the unofficial lists it is on at the moment only "The top 100 Most Violent Movies Ever Made by Tim Wambolt" seems to have a shot, but i don't see that being adopted anytime soon. 366, 500<400, tszdt and maybe doubling could be places for it...

I would lOvE to get a cyberpunk list official btw, but most of them will be lists trying to bring an all-inclusive overview instead of a top list, maybe the amount of standout pieces in this subgenre is still too small...

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Post by Onderhond » August 5th, 2020, 8:27 am

beavis wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 8:09 am
maybe the amount of standout pieces in this subgenre is still too small...
I actually fear the total amount of films is too small, unless you stretch the definition so much that it starts to lose its meaning.
As for that Top 100 Most Violent (that lists 148 entries) ... don't see that happening either :D

I see that it was on the 366 candidate list though, shame it didn't make it, it definitely deserves its place on there (over some lesser entries).

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 5th, 2020, 8:55 am

Onderhond wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 8:00 am
Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 7:30 pm
#246 (+981, #1227) Rubber's Lover (1996, Shozin Fukui), 183.36 points, 87 checks, 11 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 246, 1227, 3444
3 votesShow
Clemmetarey (#20)
beavis (#14)
Onderhond (#107)
Incidentally, it's Fukui's birthday today!

I wonder what kind of lists you'd need to get films like this official (don't think cyberpunk is a big enough niche for a standalone list). Guess it missed its chance with the 366 Weird.
I almost used the screenshot from 366 Weird for this film. Seems like it was weird, but not weird enough to make their list.

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 5th, 2020, 8:59 am

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#240 (+1121, #1361) Liza, a rókatündér [Liza, the Fox-Fairy] (2015, Károly Ujj Méscáros), 185.37 points, 187 checks, 18 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 240, 1361, --
4 votesShow
Gorro (#13)
cinewest (#93)
Cinephage (#484)
72aicm (unranked)

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#239 (+145, #384) Detachment (2011, Tony Kaye), 185.54 points, 3495 checks, 421 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 239, 384, 109
3 votesShow
OBgeoff (#23)
Gorro (#14)
Smoover (#92)

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#238 (-156, #82) Changeling (2008, Clint Eastwood), 186.01 points, 18800 checks, 1012 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 238, 82, --
7 votesShow
Lonewolf2003 (unranked>110)
Lammetje (unranked>7)
Gorro (#11)
joachimt (unranked>167)
mightysparks (#291)
Cocoa (#297)
brokenface (#117)

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#237 (+1354, #1591) Electric Dragon 80.000 V (2001, Gakuryû Ishii), 186.03 points, 237 checks, 24 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 237, 1591, 237
4 votesShow
nimimerkillinen (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#210)
beavis (#15)
Onderhond (#47)

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#236 (#new) Krisha (2015, Trey Edward Shults), 186.37 points, 512 checks, 50 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 236, new, --
4 votesShow
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#151)
outdoorcats (#47)
cinewest (#14)

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Post by sol » August 5th, 2020, 9:06 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 8:55 am
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So is that a 'yes' or a 'no' to changing the screenshot for Angela in the forum image database? :blink:
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Post by Fergenaprido » August 5th, 2020, 9:11 am

sol wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 9:06 am
Fergenaprido wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 8:55 am
screenshot
So is that a 'yes' or a 'no' to changing the screenshot for Angela in the forum image database? :blink:
I have no opinion one way or the other :)

As far as I'm aware, there is no "forum image database", just a list of image urls that some people keep in spreadsheets for others to use in polls. In the nominations thread I proposed having a central gathering place to make it easier to keep things updated and share information on how to run polls, so we'll see if that idea gets taken up.

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Post by Onderhond » August 5th, 2020, 9:16 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 8:55 am
I almost used the screenshot from 366 Weird for this film. Seems like it was weird, but not weird enough to make their list.
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This is usually the go-to image for the film (not on ICM specifically, but in general) :)

Edit: also lol @ this critic's quote: “From the uninspired surrealism of Ken Russell’s Altered States to the gratuitous gore imagery made infamous by those paisans of puke, the Italians, Rubber’s Lover doesn’t provide a single situation that can’t be found elsewhere. While it may appear novel and new, this film is mining some very old chestnuts in the oeuvre of the awful.”–Bill Gibron, DVD Talk (DVD)

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Post by Fergenaprido » August 5th, 2020, 9:29 am

Second 2-vote film in this batch.

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#235 (#new) Knight of Cups (2015, Terrence Malick), 186.45 points, 1341 checks, 75 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 235, new, --
5 votesShow
OBgeoff (#53)
JimiAntiloop (#3)
matthewscott8 (#97)
Smoover (#163)
sol (#242)

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#234 (+2489, #2723) Clockers (1995, Spike Lee), 186.7 points, 1001 checks, 41 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 234, 2723, --
3 votesShow
JimiAntiloop (#61)
outdoorcats (#18)
shugs (#33)

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#233 (-83, #150) Contes immoraux [Immoral Tales] (1973, Walerian Borowczyk), 186.8 points, 342 checks, 23 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 233, 150, 277
5 votesShow
nimimerkillinen (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#472)
Pretentious Hipster (#47)
sortile9io (#19)
sol (#163)

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#232 (#new) Shokei no shima [Punishment Island] (1966, Masahiro Shinoda), 186.89 points, 38 checks, 2 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 232, new, 703
2 votesShow
outdoorcats (#2)
Melvelet (#10)

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#231 (-78, #153) Film (1965, Alan Schneider), 187.38 points, 488 checks, 43 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 231, 153, --
5 votesShow
GruesomeTwosome (unranked)
Perception de Ambiguity (#113)
Ebbywebby (#53)
OldAle1 (unranked>100)
Melvelet (#23)

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Post by sortile9io » August 5th, 2020, 9:47 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
August 4th, 2020, 7:30 pm
#250 (#new) Medea (1988, Lars von Trier), 181.67 points, 492 checks, 35 favourites (IMDb)
Poll History: 250, new, --
4 votesShow
Perception de Ambiguity (#395)
matthewscott8 (#14)
OldAle1 (#68)
beavis (#40)
#251 has the same number of points and one more vote. I guess there is some sort of rounding to two decimals, right? What was the exact difference in this case?

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