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Let's have a place to prepare the quarter finals (and rest) of the World Cup. In this OP I'll list all the rules, deadlines and countries that made it. You can also use this topic to discuss countries and possible choices, but managers shouldn't post their selected movies here. Instead they should PM them to me.

Countries that won their match in round 2, so they'll proceed to the quarter finals:
A: Poland (Sanatorium pod klepsydra, sebby)
B: Italy (Dogman, hurluberlu)
C: Greece (To proxenio tis Annas, burneyfan)
D: Estonia (November, jvv)
E: Georgia (Simindis kundzuli, zzzorf)
F: Germany (Spur der steine, klaus78)
G: Russia (Pisma myortvogo cheloveka, Gorro)
H: India (Visaaranai, Ritesh)

DEADLINE TO SUBMIT YOUR MOVIE: August 25th
Countdown till deadline

QF will be done like this:
- 4 matches of each 2 countries.
- Countries won't be competing the same country as in round 1.
- Pace will be 2 weeks per match with 0.5 week overlap.
- First match starts August the 27th.
- Country with most #1 votes proceeds to semi-finals. In case of a tie, there is a three-day extension. If there's still a tie then, the next voter decides by sudden death.


Countries in the semifinals:
Poland (sebby)
India (Ritesh)
Germany (klaus78)
Estonia (jvv)

DEADLINE TO SUBMIT YOUR MOVIE: October 20th
Countdown till deadline

SF will be done like this:
- 2 matches of each 2 countries.
- Pace will be 2 weeks per match with 0.5 week overlap.
- First match starts October the 22nd.
- Country with most #1 votes proceeds to semi-finals. In case of a tie, there is a three-day extension. If there's still a tie then, the next voter decides by sudden death.

Rules for managers to choose a movie:
- Less than 1000 checks (at the moment the movie is picked).
- Maximum runtime of 180 minutes.
- Only one movie per director for a country in the whole season. A director with movies in multiple countries can be chosen for once for each country.
- No movies from season 1 or season 2 or season 3.
- Coproductions are allowed, but with an explanation why a movie certainly belongs to the country it competes for.
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After two depressing post-apocalyptic movies I'm going to pick a lighthearted guilty pleasure of mine as my next pick for Russia. I fully expect it to lose given how these type of movies are generally regarded here, but who knows.
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Damm, 18 days to next round. That's an eternity of wait.
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Gorro wrote: August 7th, 2020, 11:29 am After two depressing post-apocalyptic movies I'm going to pick a lighthearted guilty pleasure of mine as my next pick for Russia. I fully expect it to lose given how these type of movies are generally regarded here, but who knows.
I've also picked a comedy for Estonia for the next round.
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I will have to say that while I have been enjoying my first World Cup in its entirety the last couple of days while I have been watching Georgian films to help choose my next movie has been the best part of it. I went into this only having seen my first two picks but with the thought that Georgian film worked well for me and I might get a nudge to explore it more. Well now I have explored it more I can honestly say I Love Georgian Cinema. While I believe I have my next movie chosen I still have a few movies lined up to watch, pity I can't give you all a chunk of the movies I am watching now instead of just one.
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zzzorf wrote: August 7th, 2020, 9:09 pm I will have to say that while I have been enjoying my first World Cup in its entirety the last couple of days while I have been watching Georgian films to help choose my next movie has been the best part of it. I went into this only having seen my first two picks but with the thought that Georgian film worked well for me and I might get a nudge to explore it more. Well now I have explored it more I can honestly say I Love Georgian Cinema. While I believe I have my next movie chosen I still have a few movies lined up to watch, pity I can't give you all a chunk of the movies I am watching now instead of just one.
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zzzorf wrote: August 7th, 2020, 9:09 pm I will have to say that while I have been enjoying my first World Cup in its entirety the last couple of days while I have been watching Georgian films to help choose my next movie has been the best part of it. I went into this only having seen my first two picks but with the thought that Georgian film worked well for me and I might get a nudge to explore it more. Well now I have explored it more I can honestly say I Love Georgian Cinema. While I believe I have my next movie chosen I still have a few movies lined up to watch, pity I can't give you all a chunk of the movies I am watching now instead of just one.
Well-said! Being a manager is surely like starting a relationship with the film industry of the country you manage. :thumbsup:
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Just wondering has anyone ever put forward a musical as a selection and if so how did it go? If not how do you think one would fare?

I'm not leaning this way but I do have one as an option.
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zzzorf wrote: August 16th, 2020, 6:26 am Just wondering has anyone ever put forward a musical as a selection and if so how did it go? If not how do you think one would fare?

I'm not leaning this way but I do have one as an option.
I first recall Indonesia's sole entry (Season 1) and it didn't go well. :lol:
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Mario Gaborović wrote: August 16th, 2020, 7:33 am
zzzorf wrote: August 16th, 2020, 6:26 am Just wondering has anyone ever put forward a musical as a selection and if so how did it go? If not how do you think one would fare?

I'm not leaning this way but I do have one as an option.
I first recall Indonesia's sole entry (Season 1) and it didn't go well. :lol:
That is what I expected
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Best ask somebody else who has checked it before submitting.
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Armoreska wrote: August 16th, 2020, 8:50 am Best ask somebody else who has checked it before submitting.
As I said I doubt I'm going there (if it was an earlier Round maybe) but I enjoyed it enough that it is an option. My main problem is with your suggestion is I don't recognise any of the other 15 checks for the movie. :circle:
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zzzorf wrote: August 16th, 2020, 6:26 am Just wondering has anyone ever put forward a musical as a selection and if so how did it go? If not how do you think one would fare?

I'm not leaning this way but I do have one as an option.
I am submitting one for Russia this round. Don't expect it to go well, but wanted to submit something more lighthearted after two depressing ones and it's a guilty pleasure of mine. Just curious to see if anyone else likes it as well honestly.

It would be a fun pairing if you do decide to go that route!
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So these are the final eight countries:

A: Poland (sebby)
B: Italy (hurluberlu)
C: Greece (burneyfan)
D: Estonia (jvv)
E: Georgia (zzzorf)
F: Germany (klaus78)
G: Russia (Gorro)
H: India (Ritesh)

Managers, deadline to submit your choice is August the 25th. I already received the choices for Estonia and Russia.
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1.5 days left for managers. I've got half of the picks now. Waiting for klaus78, burneyfan, Ritesh and sebby.
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sebby, don't forget! Less than 4 hours left.
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Just gotta finish up watching one final contender
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Final pick received from sebby. I'll post the schedule later today. Working now....
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Armoreska wrote: August 8th, 2020, 10:15 am
zzzorf wrote: August 7th, 2020, 9:09 pm I will have to say that while I have been enjoying my first World Cup in its entirety the last couple of days while I have been watching Georgian films to help choose my next movie has been the best part of it. I went into this only having seen my first two picks but with the thought that Georgian film worked well for me and I might get a nudge to explore it more. Well now I have explored it more I can honestly say I Love Georgian Cinema. While I believe I have my next movie chosen I still have a few movies lined up to watch, pity I can't give you all a chunk of the movies I am watching now instead of just one.
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Wish everyone would watch more than one movie from their country
The majority of the people who vote are people who don't watch many films here or who want very specific Easter European dramas. It's very stressing and makes you not want to participate anymore. This second round was full of great films that failed with voters but not participators. I hope this changes or people are not going to want to participate anymore.
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sacmersault wrote: August 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
Armoreska wrote: August 8th, 2020, 10:15 am
zzzorf wrote: August 7th, 2020, 9:09 pm I will have to say that while I have been enjoying my first World Cup in its entirety the last couple of days while I have been watching Georgian films to help choose my next movie has been the best part of it. I went into this only having seen my first two picks but with the thought that Georgian film worked well for me and I might get a nudge to explore it more. Well now I have explored it more I can honestly say I Love Georgian Cinema. While I believe I have my next movie chosen I still have a few movies lined up to watch, pity I can't give you all a chunk of the movies I am watching now instead of just one.
:thumbsup:
Wish everyone would watch more than one movie from their country
The majority of the people who vote are people who don't watch many films here or who want very specific Easter European dramas. It's very stressing and makes you not want to participate anymore. This second round was full of great films that failed with voters but not participators. I hope this changes or people are not going to want to participate anymore.
I may be wrong but I think there was discussion of doing strictly comedy or genre pictures next time around. Maybe someone can confirm or deny that.
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sebby wrote: August 27th, 2020, 6:07 am
sacmersault wrote: August 27th, 2020, 6:04 am
Armoreska wrote: August 8th, 2020, 10:15 am
:thumbsup:
Wish everyone would watch more than one movie from their country
The majority of the people who vote are people who don't watch many films here or who want very specific Easter European dramas. It's very stressing and makes you not want to participate anymore. This second round was full of great films that failed with voters but not participators. I hope this changes or people are not going to want to participate anymore.
I may be wrong but I think there was discussion of doing strictly comedy or genre pictures next time around. Maybe someone can confirm or deny that.
It's being discussed every season, but there was never enough support for it.

@sacmersault: What do you mean with failed with voters but not participators? What's the difference between a voters and a participator?
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joachimt wrote: August 27th, 2020, 6:19 pm
sebby wrote: August 27th, 2020, 6:07 am
sacmersault wrote: August 27th, 2020, 6:04 am

The majority of the people who vote are people who don't watch many films here or who want very specific Easter European dramas. It's very stressing and makes you not want to participate anymore. This second round was full of great films that failed with voters but not participators. I hope this changes or people are not going to want to participate anymore.
I may be wrong but I think there was discussion of doing strictly comedy or genre pictures next time around. Maybe someone can confirm or deny that.
It's being discussed every season, but there was never enough support for it.

@sacmersault: What do you mean with failed with voters but not participators? What's the difference between a voters and a participator?
People who are actively participating in the WC, have a country they're investing their time on, vs those who only watch and vote
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I don't think any movie "failed" with voters. Sure, there are always people who don't like a movie and for one movie there are more than for others. But for every movie there are also enough people who liked it. Look at the 500<400 results from the past few years. There are also movies entering the list after losing its match in the WC.
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In less than three days the quarter finals are finished. I've planned to start the first semifinal October 22nd.

Deadline for managers in the semifinals to submit their movie: October 20th
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Countries in the semifinals:
Poland (sebby)
India (Ritesh)
Germany (klaus78)
Estonia (jvv)

5.5 days to submit your choice.
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1/4 choices submitted.
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3/4
Only waiting for sebby, but he still has (a little bit of) time.
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sebby and klaus78, how long do you think you need to pick the movie for the final?
(sorry jvv for asking this before SFB ends, but you're not going to make it...... :P )

I had planned more than a week between the end of the semifinal and the final, but if you both submit your movie earlier (maybe you already know your pick), we can start it earlier.
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I 2nd that motion
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Yes, I know my pick.
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Just as planned, the ICM-FF is going to kick off at the moment the last match of this round is finished!!

Those of you with little time to devote to forum happenings, join the festival early so you can get back to the world cup without any stress! ;) :)
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joachimt wrote: November 14th, 2020, 8:29 pm sebby and klaus78, how long do you think you need to pick the movie for the final?
(sorry jvv for asking this before SFB ends, but you're not going to make it...... :P )

I had planned more than a week between the end of the semifinal and the final, but if you both submit your movie earlier (maybe you already know your pick), we can start it earlier.
A week should be enough time. Don't have a pick ready and Still have a few films I'd liek to watch.
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sebby wrote: November 15th, 2020, 10:07 am
joachimt wrote: November 14th, 2020, 8:29 pm sebby and klaus78, how long do you think you need to pick the movie for the final?
(sorry jvv for asking this before SFB ends, but you're not going to make it...... :P )

I had planned more than a week between the end of the semifinal and the final, but if you both submit your movie earlier (maybe you already know your pick), we can start it earlier.
A week should be enough time. Don't have a pick ready and Still have a few films I'd liek to watch.
Alright. Let's aim to start on Sunday 22nd of November. Make sure to send me your pick at the 21st or sooner. I already received klaus78's pick.
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beavis wrote: November 15th, 2020, 9:04 am Just as planned, the ICM-FF is going to kick off at the moment the last match of this round is finished!!
Huh, iCMFF starts tomorrow, right? We've got one WC match left. That will be finished December the 6th.

At least there's not a lot left to watch for the WC.
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joachimt wrote: November 14th, 2020, 8:29 pm sebby and klaus78, how long do you think you need to pick the movie for the final?
(sorry jvv for asking this before SFB ends, but you're not going to make it...... :P )
What do you mean, I'm not going to make it? I've got 40 sock puppet accounts ready to vote at the last moment. :whistling: :lol:
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jvv wrote: November 15th, 2020, 11:07 am
joachimt wrote: November 14th, 2020, 8:29 pm sebby and klaus78, how long do you think you need to pick the movie for the final?
(sorry jvv for asking this before SFB ends, but you're not going to make it...... :P )
What do you mean, I'm not going to make it? I've got 40 sock puppet accounts ready to vote at the last moment. :whistling: :lol:
You've reached damn SEMIFINALS with a country of just 1.3 millions; isn't that success itself? :party:
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jvv wrote: November 15th, 2020, 11:07 am
joachimt wrote: November 14th, 2020, 8:29 pm sebby and klaus78, how long do you think you need to pick the movie for the final?
(sorry jvv for asking this before SFB ends, but you're not going to make it...... :P )
What do you mean, I'm not going to make it? I've got 40 sock puppet accounts ready to vote at the last moment. :whistling: :lol:
Joachimt is too afraid that he needs to stop the count tehe

Just kidding. Estonia has performed great that even Russia is defeated. But you know, given that the opponent is Under the Bridge, sometimes this forum is quite predictable.
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changed my mind, pick sent
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I'll start the final match tomorrow.
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Post by Mario Gaborović »

If there's no bronze match, India wins the third place on the basis of (fairly) better vote ratio than Estonia.
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