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#761

Post by OldAle1 » July 6th, 2020, 5:25 pm

Onderhond wrote:
July 6th, 2020, 5:19 pm
OldAle1 wrote:
July 6th, 2020, 5:00 pm
What are your top recs apart from Honey PuPu?
Blowfish (a more traditional, Japanese-style drama)
Starry, Starry Night (a more contemporary fantasy/drama)

Chi Y Lee & Tom Lin are two names to remember.
Thanks. I have Starry, Starry Night - I think I looked for it based on some screenshots you posted, actually, might have been shortly after I joined here. It was a fairly high priority to watch last month but I didn't end up watching nearly as much as I wanted to. I'll take a look at the other one, hadn't heard of it.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » July 6th, 2020, 5:36 pm

STATS

Years:
2010 25
2011 26
2012 34
2013 33
2014 34
2015 23
2016 18
2017 23
2018 18
2019 16

Genres:
Action 23
Adventure 23
Animation 13
Biography 19
Comedy 53
Crime 34
Documentary 14
Drama 207
Family 10
Fantasy 32
Film-Noir 0
History 24
Horror 18
Music 14
Musical 3
Mystery 45
Romance 46
Sci-Fi 24
Sport 1
Thriller 57
War 10
Western 7

Directors

Denis Villeneuve6
Martin Scorsese5
Asghar Farhadi
Christopher Nolan
Edgar Wright
Ethan Coen, Joel Coen
Hirokazu Koreeda
Nicolas Winding Refn
Paul Thomas Anderson
Quentin Tarantino
Wes Anderson
Yorgos Lanthimos
3
Abbas Kiarostami
Lee Unkrich
Alejandro G. Iñárritu
Alex Garland
Alfonso Cuarón
Barry Jenkins
Benny Safdie, Josh Safdie
Bi Gan
Bong Joon Ho
Céline Sciamma
Chang-dong Lee
Chan-wook Park
Christian Petzold
Damien Chazelle
Darren Aronofsky
David Fincher
Don Hertzfeldt
Greta Gerwig
Jim Jarmusch
Joshua Oppenheimer
Kenneth Lonergan
Lars von Trier
Lav Diaz
Luc Dardenne, Jean-Pierre Dardenne
Lynne Ramsay
Noah Baumbach
Nuri Bilge Ceylan
Paolo Sorrentino
Pawel Pawlikowski
Pedro Almodóvar
Pedro Costa
Richard Linklater
Robert Eggers
Roman Polanski
Ruben Östlund
Sam Mendes
Sion Sono
Steve McQueen
Terrence Malick
Xavier Dolan
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Casper Kelly
Charlie Kaufman
Christine Cynn
Éric Toledano
Guy Maddin
Jafar Panahi
Jemaine Clement
JR
Ken Loach
Peter Ramsey
Rodney Rothman
Ronnie Del Carmen
Shlomi Elkabetz
Stéphane Aubier
Tom Tykwer
Verena Paravel
Vincent Patar
Wim Wenders
Abdellatif Kechiche
Adam McKay
Adrian Molina
Agnès Varda
Alain Guiraudie
Aleksandr Sokurov
Alexander Payne
Alexandre Larose
Alice Rohrwacher
Andrea Arnold
Andrew Haigh
Andrey Zvyagintsev
Ang Lee
Apichatpong Weerasethakul
Ari Aster
Armando Iannucci
Asif Kapadia
Banksy
Béla Tarr
Benh Zeitlin
Benjamin Renner
Bo Burnham
Bo Hu
Bob Persichetti
Boots Riley
Bruno Dumont
Carlos Reygadas
Ciro Guerra
Cristian Mungiu
Damián Szifron
Dan Gilroy
David Cronenberg
David Lowery
David O. Russell
David Robert Mitchell
Debra Granik
Deniz Gamze Ergüven
Derek Cianfrance
Destin Daniel Cretton
Dietrich Brüggemann
Doug Liman
Drew Goddard
Duke Johnson
Edgar Reitz
Evan Johnson
Ezra Edelman
Felix van Groeningen
Gareth Evans
Gaspar Noé
George Miller
György Pálfi
Haifaa Al-Mansour
Harmony Korine
Hayao Miyazaki
Hsiao-Hsien Hou
Ildikó Enyedi
Isao Takahata
J.J. Abrams
James Gray
James Gunn
James Ward Byrkit
Jeff Nichols
Joachim Trier
Jonathan Glazer
Jordan Peele
Julia Ducournau
Juliano Ribeiro Salgado
Kathryn Bigelow
Kelly Reichardt
Kogonada
László Nemes
Laura Obiols
Lenny Abrahamson
Leos Carax
Lilly Wachowski, Lana Wachowski
Lisandro Alonso
Luca Guadagnino
Lucien Castaing-Taylor
Lucrecia Martel
Makoto Shinkai
Malik Bendjelloul
Maren Ade
Martin McDonagh
Martti Helde
Matthew Vaughn
Michael Haneke
Michel Hazanavicius
Michelangelo Frammartino
Miguel Gomes
Mike Leigh
Ming-liang Tsai
Mojtaba Mirtahmasb
Nikolaus Geyrhalter
Olivier Nakache
Pablo Berger
Panos Cosmatos
Patricio Guzmán
Paul Schrader
Paul Verhoeven
Pete Docter
Peter Jackson
Peter Strickland
Raoul Ruiz
Rian Johnson
Ron Fricke
Ronit Elkabetz
Roy Andersson
Sarah Polley
Sean Baker
Sebastian Schipper
Sergey Loznitsa
Shane Carruth
Shay Modaressi
Spike Jonze
Spike Lee
Steven Spielberg
Taika Waititi
Tetsuya Nakashima
Thomas Vinterberg
Todd Haynes
Todd Phillips
Tom Ford
Tom Hooper
Tom McCarthy
Tomas Alfredson
Tomm Moore
Woody Allen
Xavier Beauvois
Zaza Urushadze
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#763

Post by Onderhond » July 6th, 2020, 5:38 pm

Beautiful Crazy felt a bit more modern than Blowfish, but I think both are very worthy.
Tom Lin's Zinnia Flower is also worthwhile, but a lot darker (his wife died in between, an event heavily referenced in the film). And the poster of Starry Starry Night is probably my favorite ever B)

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#764

Post by OldAle1 » July 6th, 2020, 5:43 pm

That is a nice poster - though most of the credit has to go to Van Gogh of course...

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#765

Post by Onderhond » July 6th, 2020, 5:50 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
July 6th, 2020, 5:43 pm
That is a nice poster - though most of the credit has to go to Van Gogh of course...
Yeah, but the top quote is mine, so who cares what painter did most of the work :D

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#766

Post by Lammetje » July 6th, 2020, 6:49 pm

Onderhond wrote:
July 6th, 2020, 5:50 pm
OldAle1 wrote:
July 6th, 2020, 5:43 pm
That is a nice poster - though most of the credit has to go to Van Gogh of course...
Yeah, but the top quote is mine, so who cares what painter did most of the work :D
Ah, so that's you! The quote on this poster I saw the other day makes a lot more sense now:

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Post by Onderhond » July 6th, 2020, 8:22 pm

That's not me, I'd never dissuade someone from watching a film ;)

But nonetheless ... :lol:

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » July 6th, 2020, 10:07 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
July 6th, 2020, 11:04 am
Movies seen: 105/250 (42%)
Movies I voted for: will take too long to figure out without an imdb list. My guess is around 70 out of the 450 films in my list.
Highest movie unseen: #3 The Tree of Life
Highest favourite: #1 Jodaeiye Nader az Simin [A Separation]
Highest dislike: #156 Final Cut: Hölgyeim és uraim [Final Cut: Ladies and Gentlemen]
Highest (non-favourite) movie I voted for: #2 The Grand Budapest Hotel
Highest (non-dislike) movie seen I didn't vote for: #17 Holy Motors
Position of my #1: #13 Inception
My highest vote that didn't make the list: #359 Jusqu'à la garde [Custody] (my #3)

Lonewolf, the URLs in the descriptions of the two lists need to be updated too since you changed the titles.
Thanks for reminding me.

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#769

Post by Ebbywebby » July 6th, 2020, 10:37 pm

I'm 174/250, and 777 out of the complete list. Several of my unseen top 250 definitely have been on my radar to see sometime, such as Certified Copy (my highest-ranking unchecked), Winter Sleep, Long Day's Journey Into Night, Burning, Mysteries of Lisbon, Jauja, Margaret, Only God Forgives, Tabu (which I almost watched last night!), The Look of Silence, Life of Pi, 1917, A Hidden Life, Knives Out, Shoplifters, Lincoln, Li'l Quinquin and Blue Valentine.

My highest-ranked film out of the money was "Endless Poetry," which ranked #291.

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#770

Post by cinewest » July 7th, 2020, 12:05 am

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
July 6th, 2020, 5:36 pm
STATS

Years:
2010 25
2011 26
2012 34
2013 33
2014 34
2015 23
2016 18
2017 23
2018 18
2019 16

Genres:
Action 23
Adventure 23
Animation 13
Biography 19
Comedy 53
Crime 34
Documentary 14
Drama 207
Family 10
Fantasy 32
Film-Noir 0
History 24
Horror 18
Music 14
Musical 3
Mystery 45
Romance 46
Sci-Fi 24
Sport 1
Thriller 57
War 10
Western 7

Directors

Denis Villeneuve6
Martin Scorsese5
Asghar Farhadi
Christopher Nolan
Edgar Wright
Ethan Coen, Joel Coen
Hirokazu Koreeda
Nicolas Winding Refn
Paul Thomas Anderson
Quentin Tarantino
Wes Anderson
Yorgos Lanthimos
3
Abbas Kiarostami
Lee Unkrich
Alejandro G. Iñárritu
Alex Garland
Alfonso Cuarón
Barry Jenkins
Benny Safdie, Josh Safdie
Bi Gan
Bong Joon Ho
Céline Sciamma
Chang-dong Lee
Chan-wook Park
Christian Petzold
Damien Chazelle
Darren Aronofsky
David Fincher
Don Hertzfeldt
Greta Gerwig
Jim Jarmusch
Joshua Oppenheimer
Kenneth Lonergan
Lars von Trier
Lav Diaz
Luc Dardenne, Jean-Pierre Dardenne
Lynne Ramsay
Noah Baumbach
Nuri Bilge Ceylan
Paolo Sorrentino
Pawel Pawlikowski
Pedro Almodóvar
Pedro Costa
Richard Linklater
Robert Eggers
Roman Polanski
Ruben Östlund
Sam Mendes
Sion Sono
Steve McQueen
Terrence Malick
Xavier Dolan
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Charlie Kaufman
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Guy Maddin
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Jemaine Clement
JR
Ken Loach
Peter Ramsey
Rodney Rothman
Ronnie Del Carmen
Shlomi Elkabetz
Stéphane Aubier
Tom Tykwer
Verena Paravel
Vincent Patar
Wim Wenders
Abdellatif Kechiche
Adam McKay
Adrian Molina
Agnès Varda
Alain Guiraudie
Aleksandr Sokurov
Alexander Payne
Alexandre Larose
Alice Rohrwacher
Andrea Arnold
Andrew Haigh
Andrey Zvyagintsev
Ang Lee
Apichatpong Weerasethakul
Ari Aster
Armando Iannucci
Asif Kapadia
Banksy
Béla Tarr
Benh Zeitlin
Benjamin Renner
Bo Burnham
Bo Hu
Bob Persichetti
Boots Riley
Bruno Dumont
Carlos Reygadas
Ciro Guerra
Cristian Mungiu
Damián Szifron
Dan Gilroy
David Cronenberg
David Lowery
David O. Russell
David Robert Mitchell
Debra Granik
Deniz Gamze Ergüven
Derek Cianfrance
Destin Daniel Cretton
Dietrich Brüggemann
Doug Liman
Drew Goddard
Duke Johnson
Edgar Reitz
Evan Johnson
Ezra Edelman
Felix van Groeningen
Gareth Evans
Gaspar Noé
George Miller
György Pálfi
Haifaa Al-Mansour
Harmony Korine
Hayao Miyazaki
Hsiao-Hsien Hou
Ildikó Enyedi
Isao Takahata
J.J. Abrams
James Gray
James Gunn
James Ward Byrkit
Jeff Nichols
Joachim Trier
Jonathan Glazer
Jordan Peele
Julia Ducournau
Juliano Ribeiro Salgado
Kathryn Bigelow
Kelly Reichardt
Kogonada
László Nemes
Laura Obiols
Lenny Abrahamson
Leos Carax
Lilly Wachowski, Lana Wachowski
Lisandro Alonso
Luca Guadagnino
Lucien Castaing-Taylor
Lucrecia Martel
Makoto Shinkai
Malik Bendjelloul
Maren Ade
Martin McDonagh
Martti Helde
Matthew Vaughn
Michael Haneke
Michel Hazanavicius
Michelangelo Frammartino
Miguel Gomes
Mike Leigh
Ming-liang Tsai
Mojtaba Mirtahmasb
Nikolaus Geyrhalter
Olivier Nakache
Pablo Berger
Panos Cosmatos
Patricio Guzmán
Paul Schrader
Paul Verhoeven
Pete Docter
Peter Jackson
Peter Strickland
Raoul Ruiz
Rian Johnson
Ron Fricke
Ronit Elkabetz
Roy Andersson
Sarah Polley
Sean Baker
Sebastian Schipper
Sergey Loznitsa
Shane Carruth
Shay Modaressi
Spike Jonze
Spike Lee
Steven Spielberg
Taika Waititi
Tetsuya Nakashima
Thomas Vinterberg
Todd Haynes
Todd Phillips
Tom Ford
Tom Hooper
Tom McCarthy
Tomas Alfredson
Tomm Moore
Woody Allen
Xavier Beauvois
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King Denis and Prince Marty. I wonder how their 2010 films will be seen in 2030?

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#771

Post by TraverseTown » July 7th, 2020, 6:03 am

Thanks Lonewolf for running this poll. This was always my favorite poll, not necessarily because 2010s films are my favorite, but it required so much less work to catch up!

Do you happen to have an IMDB version of the full list? Or can someone upload the .xls spreadsheet version for me?

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » July 7th, 2020, 9:16 am

TraverseTown wrote:
July 7th, 2020, 6:03 am
Thanks Lonewolf for running this poll. This was always my favorite poll, not necessarily because 2010s films are my favorite, but it required so much less work to catch up!

Do you happen to have an IMDB version of the full list? Or can someone upload the .xls spreadsheet version for me?
Thanks.

I sure do: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls080959998/

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#773

Post by lynchs » July 7th, 2020, 1:31 pm

TraverseTown wrote:
July 5th, 2020, 9:02 pm
Losing Personal Shopper out of the Top 250 is tragic.
Hear ! Hear !

but in the end it's just another list :turned:

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Post by cinewest » July 7th, 2020, 1:47 pm

lynchs wrote:
July 7th, 2020, 1:31 pm
TraverseTown wrote:
July 5th, 2020, 9:02 pm
Losing Personal Shopper out of the Top 250 is tragic.
Hear ! Hear !

but in the end it's just another list :turned:
And one's own lists are the best, wouldn't you say?

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Post by lynchs » July 7th, 2020, 2:14 pm

Of course ! Your list is the best for you, mine, is the best because it's mine, cheap philosophy :turned:

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#776

Post by Jimi Antiloop » July 7th, 2020, 8:22 pm

mightysparks wrote:
July 6th, 2020, 3:41 am
Sad about the rise for The Tree of Life, which is the second worst film on this list ...
Lakigigar wrote:
July 6th, 2020, 3:35 am
Okay Scott Pilgrim VS Thé World is no Longer thé worst movie of the list. That "honour" goes to Mother. And when I thought they couldnt make a worse movie than Requiem for A Dream Aronofsky proves he can. First 1/10 in this list.
Still Scott Pilgrim for me :P I think it's the only 2/10 that came up at all. I thought Mother was ok (6/10) but wasted potential (especially by casting the worst actress in existence).
Your statements tell more about you, then about the actual quality of those films. ;)
Out of my league. :whistling:
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Post by Jimi Antiloop » July 7th, 2020, 8:51 pm

Seen: 135/250 - 53 Favorites vs 10 Dislikes
Complete list seen: 658/4529
Highest unchecked: The Turin Horse (#5) / Liebe (#7) / The Favourite (#21)
Highest I voted for: A Separation (#1, my #298)
Position of my #1: #277 (Knight of Cups)
Highest dislike: #59 (Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood)
My second highest vote that didn't make the list: Dominion (#898 ; #2)
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Post by matthewscott8 » July 8th, 2020, 7:25 am

I would have liked to see more mafia action on this list. Like somehow from a challenge or a fotw we had all seen Thomas Heise's Sonnensystem. There is disappointingly little mafia activity although I did notice a few and it's nice that ICMFF has had an impact, though it didnt get Krisha across the line somehow.

I have not seen A Separation (on the watchlist) but I found it surprising that a film that nobody had as their number 1, ends up number 1 on the poll. I would value some sort of weaving in of %age of #1s when we get to the top 10.

I did wonder as per Onderhond's comment about Taiwanese cinema of this period being discovered decades hence, how well watched this forum is in the 2010s, whether we are not the cinenauts in this period that we are in others, or do we just focus on the high profile stuff.

Also Denis Villeneuve is very far away from being the director of the decade.

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Post by cinewest » July 8th, 2020, 8:41 am

Nice to see some reflective comments on the list. I made some, throughout the unveiling, and agree what you say, here, especially the last part(s), which I have already put out there.
I would love to have more reflective discussions of the results of these polls...

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Post by PGonzalez » July 8th, 2020, 8:55 am

matthewscott8 wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 7:25 am
Also Denis Villeneuve is very far away from being the director of the decade.
Villeneuve probably isn't even the best director in his house.

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Post by Y U M E » July 8th, 2020, 9:22 am

Seen: 237/250

Highest unseen: Mistérios de Lisboa (#57)
Number of favourites: 30
Position of my #1: La Grande Bellezza (#44)
Highest ranked film from my own list that didn't make the cut: Aurora (#4) -> #584

Highest ranked favourite: The Turin Horse (#5)
Highest ranked dislike: Melancholia (#6)
Highest ranked film I didn't vote for: Jodaeiye Nader az Simin (#1)
Highest ranked film I voted for: The Tree of Life (#2)

Total of films seen from the complete list: 1255/4529
Nummer of films directed by Denis Villeneuve I voted for: 0

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Post by mightysparks » July 8th, 2020, 9:41 am

Y U M E wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 9:22 am
Nummer of films directed by Denis Villeneuve I voted for: 0
tehe

I voted for Sicario and Arrival, the rest of his work hasn't really impressed me.
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Post by Lakigigar » July 8th, 2020, 10:43 am

Why all the Villeneuve hate? I mean, he's definitely a bit overrated, but IMO a lot of directors are overrated. Scorsese as an example is definitely not the Scorsese he once was for a long time. The Wolf of Wall Street is a good movie, sure, but how much of it is attributed to the director. I doubt the director had a huge influence on it, and all the other 2010 movies (haven't seen The Irishman and a few others) are insanely overrated. But fine... here we go.

Incendies 3/10 -> story doesn't interest me
Prisoners 8/10 -> good movie, my number #83. But has it's flaws and isn't one of the best movies of the decade.
Enemy 8/10 -> good movie again, my number #73
Sicario 6/10 -> need to see this again
Arrival 8/10 -> my number #89
Have yet to see Blade Runner 2049.

Villeneuve is a good director, but by no means does he come close to being a legend. His consistence of delivering good movies is however a quality few can cherish.

Scorsese:
Shutter Island 5/10 -> i don't like movies focused on twists. I just plain didn't like the movie.
Hugo 6/10 -> a film that goes deeper on his love for film-making and classic / silent films, but the story itself doesn't impress.
The Wolf of Wall Street 9/10 -> i've had a love - hate relationship with this movie, but it's one of Scorsese's best movies, and since my rewatch, i absolutely love the movie, but it doesn't mean i think Scorsese is suddenly an exceptional director, also because I believe this is a big budget film where Scorsese's influence is minimal.
Silence 4/10 -> a bit on the pretentious side, but not as boring as i thought i would be. However, it's still boring.
Have yet to watch The Irishman.

I haven't seen Uncut Gems yet, but the Safdie brothers are a very promising duo. NWR has made three excellent movies, even though I still don't understand Only God Forgives and have to rewatch it again.

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#784

Post by Lakigigar » July 8th, 2020, 10:44 am

I will check out on Blowfish and Starry, Starry Eyes! I promise you that, Onderhond! :) (if i can at least find them online).

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Post by Teproc » July 8th, 2020, 10:50 am

You think Scorses's influence on The Wolf of Wall Street was "minimal" ? I understand that auteurism is sometimes exaggerated, but Scorsese is in such a position at this point in his career that he is very much completely in charge, whatever the budget. In fact, let's look at the budgets for all these films:

Shutter Island: 80M
Hugo: 180M
The Wolf of Wall Street: 100M
Silence: 46.5M

So the correlation between budget and Scorsese's influence seems to really make little sense to me. Wolf of Wall Street is also basically another take on Goodfellas, so it could hardly fit more squarely in Scorsese's oeuvre. You don't have to think Scorsese is great, but to say Wolf of Wall Street is anything else than his movie seems strange to me.

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Post by mightysparks » July 8th, 2020, 10:57 am

I don't think I would know a Scorcese film without knowing he was the director beforehand, but there are only a handful of directors that I feel are 'recognisable' and they're the obvious ones like Wes Anderson.
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Post by Onderhond » July 8th, 2020, 11:16 am

mightysparks wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 10:57 am
I don't think I would know a Scorcese film without knowing he was the director beforehand
Scorsese has some cues. Outdated editing techniques being one of them. I think he makes fairly recognizable movies, then again that's always easy to say afterwards. Not as extreme as Anderson and a bunch of others, but Wolf of Wall Street is definitely a "Scorsese pic". Hence my low rating B)

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Post by matthewscott8 » July 8th, 2020, 1:18 pm

Onderhond wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 11:16 am
mightysparks wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 10:57 am
I don't think I would know a Scorcese film without knowing he was the director beforehand
Scorsese has some cues. Outdated editing techniques being one of them. I think he makes fairly recognizable movies, then again that's always easy to say afterwards. Not as extreme as Anderson and a bunch of others, but Wolf of Wall Street is definitely a "Scorsese pic". Hence my low rating B)
He has worked with the same editor, Thelma Schoonmaker for 50 years. Not sure if what you can tell is a Schoonmaker film.

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Post by Onderhond » July 8th, 2020, 1:22 pm

Well, if they worked together for that long, I'm sure Scorsese approves of her work. It's a bit hard to tell in this case as it seems Schoonmaker doesn't do much work beyond the Scorsese films.

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Post by cinewest » July 8th, 2020, 2:47 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 1:18 pm
Onderhond wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 11:16 am
mightysparks wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 10:57 am
I don't think I would know a Scorcese film without knowing he was the director beforehand
Scorsese has some cues. Outdated editing techniques being one of them. I think he makes fairly recognizable movies, then again that's always easy to say afterwards. Not as extreme as Anderson and a bunch of others, but Wolf of Wall Street is definitely a "Scorsese pic". Hence my low rating B)
He has worked with the same editor, Thelma Schoonmaker for 50 years. Not sure if what you can tell is a Schoonmaker film.
The editing style is pretty consistent in Scorsese films (as is his cinematography), and I imagine he works closely with Shoonmaker in the editing room. His films are very professional, though many are prone toward being to long, given what they are.

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Post by cinewest » July 9th, 2020, 5:31 am

So, if at least some people here agree that neither Villeneuve nor Scorsese were the best filmmakers of the 2010's, who was?

For me, it's easy to answer this question about the 2000's, as Michael Haneke made 5 outstanding movies that decade, and Von Trier followed closely with 4, but I can't think of anyone in the 2010's who made more than 3 stand outs, and some of them are not even on the list above.

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Post by blocho » July 9th, 2020, 5:52 am

I would put the Coens near the top, but I'm guessing most people would not. I think some people would mention Bong, though he's not my favorite.

And, of course, some people would argue for Nolan or Tarantino.

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Post by Onderhond » July 9th, 2020, 6:15 am

Taking a pick from already established directors, my vote would go to Sono. From the lesser known ones, Hiroyuki Tanaka would get it, but he's been great since forever.

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Post by cinewest » July 9th, 2020, 7:45 am

blocho wrote:
July 9th, 2020, 5:52 am
I would put the Coens near the top, but I'm guessing most people would not. I think some people would mention Bong, though he's not my favorite.

And, of course, some people would argue for Nolan or Tarantino.
What are the films you would cite as outstanding by any of them in the 2010’s?

I like the Coen’s a lot, but only consider Llewyn Davis as outstanding in the past decade.

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Post by cinewest » July 9th, 2020, 9:08 am

Onderhond wrote:
July 9th, 2020, 6:15 am
Taking a pick from already established directors, my vote would go to Sono. From the lesser known ones, Hiroyuki Tanaka would get it, but he's been great since forever.
Sono was certainly prolific in the 2010's, but the one film I saw the beginning of (Tokyo Tribe) just wasn't my thing at all, and reminded me a bit of one of my least favorite filmmakers at the moment (Tarantino). Looking at his filmography, i see a couple of others by him I might try, but based on the first taste that I got, he's not high on my priority list. The best thing I can say about him so far is that he is colorful, but there are a lot of other less flattering adjectives I could also use.... I'll reserve judgment until I get more than a taste.

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Post by Onderhond » July 9th, 2020, 9:45 am

The Land of Hope and The Whispering Star are probably more up your ally. Wouldn't recommend any of his fun/weird stuff.

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Post by Y U M E » July 9th, 2020, 10:03 am

For me personally, I would say Daigo Matsui. But he's quite - not to say totally - unknown. Thanks to IFFR and Camera Japan I was able to see four of his films.

In alphabetical order I would say one of the next 10 names, which all are represented in 'our' list:
Andrea Arnold
Nuri Bilge Ceylan
Xavier Dolan
Miguel Gomes
Hirokazu Kore’eda
Pablo Larraín
Kenneth Lonergan
Cristian Mungiu
Cristi Puiu
Alice Rohrwacher

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Post by Onderhond » July 9th, 2020, 10:09 am

Y U M E wrote:
July 9th, 2020, 10:03 am
For me personally, I would say Daigo Matsui. But he's quite - not to say totally - unknown. Thanks to IFFR and Camera Japan I was able to see four of his films.
I've only seen three, no stand-outs yet so far, but all scored 3.5* so he's definitely an interesting one. And I'm sure Ice Cream and the Sound of Raindrops could become an arthouse favorite, if at least they're ever planning on giving Japan some attention again. Saw that one just yesterday and it sure left an impression.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » July 9th, 2020, 10:59 am

cinewest wrote:
July 9th, 2020, 5:31 am
So, if at least some people here agree that neither Villeneuve nor Scorsese were the best filmmakers of the 2010's, who was?

For me, it's easy to answer this question about the 2000's, as Michael Haneke made 5 outstanding movies that decade, and Von Trier followed closely with 4, but I can't think of anyone in the 2010's who made more than 3 stand outs, and some of them are not even on the list above.
Interesting question. My vote would go to;
Wes Anderson, every movie made this decade is a personal favorite and he produced his best work this decade.
Nicolas Winding Refn, he made two movies I really love (Drive and The Neon Demon) and one I liked a lot (Only God Forgives) and also he made his best work this decade.
And in lesser extent Alejandro González Iñárritu and Steve McQueen; both with a batting average of 2 out of 3, with the 3rd also being good, but not outstanding.

Others worth mentioning are Quentin Tarantino and in fact Martin Scorsese; most of their movies of this decade were favorites to me, but both made (much) better work in previous decades.

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Post by St. Gloede » July 9th, 2020, 11:23 am

cinewest wrote:
July 4th, 2020, 7:25 am
The arthouse headscratcher so far for me is Cosmopolis.
It is not a 1 to 1 comparison, but try to see it in a similar context as Godard's 90s work (or later work in general). Essentially irreverent, comedic, absurdist satire interjecting poetry, quotes, a plethora of problems, and humbling them into a "cool" and "fun" mix that is essentially sarcastic about itself - essentially everything is and is not a joke, everything is and is not poetry. Add to that the filmmaking and visual concept itself and we have one hell of a ride.

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