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#1121

Post by mightysparks » July 22nd, 2020, 4:05 pm

I’m at 1000/1000 so we should do the entire list :whistling:
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#1122

Post by sol » July 22nd, 2020, 4:05 pm

Well, if you guys want to do rankdowns that are relevant for each month, in August we have the 1970s Challenge, so how about:

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tasc ... 0s/guigui/

The list features cinema from all around the world with enough commonly seen films to be viable.
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Post by AB537 » July 22nd, 2020, 4:06 pm

In response to the suggestions that have been made, I'm fine with some overlap but agree BP winners should wait a bit.

I'm also not nearly familiar enough with any country other than US/UK to be able to constructively participate in a rankdown, but would follow at least some with interest. Even France and Italy, which would be my next strongest countries by far, are at best pushing the bronze award marks for the major lists.

For TSZDT, I'm at 296/1000 overall, but 82/100 for the top of the list. Like OldAle1, I'm planning to make some progress on this during October's horror challenge and would gladly participate in a horror challenge during/after that. Before then, I have theoretically ambitious plans (which may or may not come to fruition) for Germany next month and Russia in September, although my "ambitious" plans for some country challenges probably wouldn't be competitive with some people here.

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#1124

Post by AB537 » July 22nd, 2020, 4:07 pm

sol wrote:
July 22nd, 2020, 4:05 pm
Well, if you guys want to do rankdowns that are relevant for each month, in August we have the 1970s Challenge, so how about:

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/tasc ... 0s/guigui/

The list features cinema from all around the world with enough commonly seen films to be viable.
We could also filter down to the top 100 1970s films on TSPDT, but I'm not opposed to a Taschen list either.

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#1125

Post by brokenface » July 22nd, 2020, 4:12 pm

Maybe we should make a list of 100 potential rankdowns, and then vote them off one by one tehe


but in all seriousness, best way would probably be to just list the options and people put their names next to the one(s) they'd sign up for. If there's enough signups, off you go..

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#1126

Post by cinewest » July 22nd, 2020, 4:26 pm

So where are we, now? Is the round complete?

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#1127

Post by beasterne » July 22nd, 2020, 4:39 pm

A Serious Man 1
Her 1
12 Years a Slave 5
Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) 1
The Grand Budapest Hotel 3
BlacKkKlansman 2
Parasite (Gisaengchung) 1


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jeff_v no
Onderhond no
jeroeno hell no

Here's where we're at. One player didn't vote (haven't gone back to check who), and we're waiting on AB to see if they want to veto 12 Years a Slave.

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#1128

Post by toromash » July 22nd, 2020, 4:48 pm

beasterne wrote:
July 22nd, 2020, 4:39 pm
A Serious Man 1
Her 1
12 Years a Slave 5
Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) 1
The Grand Budapest Hotel 3
BlacKkKlansman 2
Parasite (Gisaengchung) 1


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jeff_v no
Onderhond no
jeroeno hell no

Here's where we're at. One player didn't vote (haven't gone back to check who), and we're waiting on AB to see if they want to veto 12 Years a Slave.
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#1129

Post by jeff_v » July 22nd, 2020, 4:54 pm

If I'm still allowed to vote, I'll pick BlacKkKlansman.

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#1130

Post by AB537 » July 22nd, 2020, 6:15 pm

I do like 12 Years a Slave a lot, but am not going to use a veto to save it at this point.

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#1131

Post by toromash » July 22nd, 2020, 6:21 pm

Kick off time

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Her
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BlacKkKlansman
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Post by beasterne » July 22nd, 2020, 6:24 pm

A Serious Man
Her
Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) 1
The Grand Budapest Hotel 1
BlacKkKlansman
Parasite (Gisaengchung)

I'm early enough where I can throw a vote to Birdman so that's what I'm going to do.

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#1133

Post by OldAle1 » July 22nd, 2020, 6:25 pm

Fuck I have to keep trying the same old thing I guess. No, Parasite, no.

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#1134

Post by shugs » July 22nd, 2020, 6:26 pm

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Her
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#1135

Post by brokenface » July 22nd, 2020, 6:55 pm

I'll start the Blackkklansman front.

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Post by jeff_v » July 22nd, 2020, 7:08 pm

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Her
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Post by jeroeno » July 22nd, 2020, 7:26 pm

Birdman for me. To think it was cut in Round 1 of this whole thing, now it's in the final six :woot:

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Post by blocho » July 22nd, 2020, 7:59 pm

BlackkKlansman

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Post by AB537 » July 22nd, 2020, 8:04 pm

A Serious Man
Her 1
Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) 3
The Grand Budapest Hotel 2
BlacKkKlansman 2
Parasite (Gisaengchung) 1

With no uptake last round for A Serious Man, I'm going to open up a new front with Her instead. Nothing against the film, just have it ranked quite a bit lower than the four people have voted for so far.

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Post by Smoover » July 22nd, 2020, 8:22 pm

The Grand Budapest Hotel

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#1141

Post by Onderhond » July 22nd, 2020, 8:30 pm

Game on, time to let Birdman go.

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#1143

Post by Onderhond » July 22nd, 2020, 8:35 pm

brokenface wrote:
July 22nd, 2020, 8:34 pm
Um 3+1=4 😄
I was already a few moves ahead ;)

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Post by sol » July 22nd, 2020, 11:10 pm

Game on, time to let Grand Budapest go.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » July 22nd, 2020, 11:14 pm

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Her 2
Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) 4
The Grand Budapest Hotel 4
BlacKkKlansman 2
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Staying with Her

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Post by cinewest » July 23rd, 2020, 12:19 am

Looks like I’m in the same pickle i was in with Amour, only this time it’s Birdman against Budapest, a movie I like less.

Actually, there is nothing left that I like more than Birdman, which is without doubt my favorite Oscar winner of the decade.

Of course, it starts with the amazing camera work, but not just because of it. Maybe many of you are too young to imagine what a mid-life crisis would be like, or what it might be like to experience an early success you become associated with for the rest of your life.

And maybe you haven’t really accomplished anything noteworthy since, In fact, maybe your life has mostly been a failure since then, if only in your eyes.

And then you get an opportunity to redeem yourself, but especially by doing some important work in a field where you are known for some popular
commercial cheese that deep down you don’t have that much respect for.

Wrap all of this into 30’s style witty Hollywood slapstick comedy (without "lifestyles of the rich" backdrop), and you get Birdman, which is also a satire of “show business.”

There are several complicated dramedies left, all of which I like, but Birdman is the one I like best, and much more fully realized than the one that looks like it will win the rank down.

That means I am stuck voting for the sharp Wes Anderson comedy, Grand Budapest Hotel, and left wondering what happened to the Blackkklansman train.

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Post by mightysparks » July 23rd, 2020, 1:11 am

Time to set Birdman free. Cinewest’s plea is almost convincing enough for me to rewatch it at some point, though unlike some other films that were discussed I never got the sense it was a film I needed age or experience to ‘get’, I just found it not that good and nothing about it worked at all.

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Post by cinewest » July 23rd, 2020, 2:09 am

mightysparks wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 1:11 am
Time to set Birdman free. Cinewest’s plea is almost convincing enough for me to rewatch it at some point, though unlike some other films that were discussed I never got the sense it was a film I needed age or experience to ‘get’, I just found it not that good and nothing about it worked at all.

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Couldn’t let Birdman die without putting in a plea or trying to save it (I knew where your vote was going).

So we are back to vetoes, or a “vote off,” where once again Grand Budapest will no doubt show how many strong supporters it has in spite of the continued attacks upon it.

I have written my own short appeal for Birdman above, but check out what some of the critics say:

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/birdma ... ic-reviews
https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/birdman-2014
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/ ... ectacular/
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Post by jeroeno » July 23rd, 2020, 6:27 am

So we'll do a vote-off. Always nice to try something new:

Please vote which movie you think should be cut

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Post by mightysparks » July 23rd, 2020, 6:37 am

Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) 2
The Grand Budapest Hotel
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Post by cinewest » July 23rd, 2020, 7:16 am

Grand Budapest is very good, but Birdman is better.

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Post by brokenface » July 23rd, 2020, 7:17 am

I like Birdman plenty but l like Grand Budapest more

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Post by shugs » July 23rd, 2020, 7:24 am

I don't care about either of them, but I liked Birdman slightly more.

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Post by sol » July 23rd, 2020, 9:35 am

It will be interested in seeing what the more neutral voters do this round; voting for Grand Budapest Hotel to be cut might be a good way to flush out another veto.

Personally speaking though, I am cutting Budapest because I liked it a lot less than Birdman. In fact, I don't the films are even nearly on par with each other.

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Post by cinewest » July 23rd, 2020, 9:51 am

sol wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 9:35 am
It will be interested in seeing what the more neutral voters do this round; voting for Grand Budapest Hotel to be cut might be a good way to flush out another veto.

Personally speaking though, I am cutting Budapest because I liked it a lot less than Birdman. In fact, I don't the films are even nearly on par with each other.

Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) 3
The Grand Budapest Hotel 3
It really comes down to the 5 voters who voted for something else in the last round, and my sense is that the lean will be in favor of Budapest, which seems to have more fans. Personally, I don;t think any of the films left are better than Birdman, and if it is eliminated, I will have to turn to my #4 film, which is still alive.

Can't comment on Blackkklansman, but I am not a fan of Spike Lee's "in your face" style

Parasite (which I make the favorite because of its style) is a good but flawed film that suffers more and more as it moves on because it jumps around so much, leaves things unattended, and shifts gears almost like a Korean Tarantino. Unlike T, Bong does take on some meaningful issues.

Her is interesting, and much tighter, but it is also a very small film that doesn't attempt nearly as much as the other films in the "vote off." That said, this one is very popular here in polls, and is probably the dark horse, going forward

If I have to say goodbye to Birdman, I will fight for A Serious Man, which I think is probably one of the Coen's top 5, and I will go further into that when the time comes.

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Post by OldAle1 » July 23rd, 2020, 11:39 am

This one's close for me but I guess at the moment I like GBH just a wee bit more so

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Post by Onderhond » July 23rd, 2020, 11:45 am

A little uncertain about the rules here. Is there still a veto moment after the vote-off?

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Post by AB537 » July 23rd, 2020, 12:49 pm

Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) 5
The Grand Budapest Hotel 3

I like both a lot, but Grand Budapest Hotel more.

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Post by AB537 » July 23rd, 2020, 12:51 pm

Onderhond wrote:
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A little uncertain about the rules here. Is there still a veto moment after the vote-off?
Good question. If not, we moved way too quickly into the runoff.

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Post by cinewest » July 23rd, 2020, 1:06 pm

AB537 wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 12:51 pm
Onderhond wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 11:45 am
A little uncertain about the rules here. Is there still a veto moment after the vote-off?
Good question. If not, we moved way too quickly into the runoff.
Technically, a veto can’t come into play unless something has first been voted off, though I suppose ione of the veto holders could use their veto preemptively, thus rendering any vote Against their film null and void, unless a veto is also played for the other film, which would return the The result to the outcome of the vote.

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