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World Cup, Season 4, Match 2C: Senegal vs Greece (Jun 25th)

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World Cup, Season 4, Match 2C: Senegal vs Greece (Jun 25th)

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This is match 2C of the fourth season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
SenegalTouki Bouki1973Fergenapridolinklink
GreeceTo proxenio tis AnnasThe Matchmaking of Anna1972burneyfanlinklink

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- Movie with most votes wins.
- In case of a tie the match will have a 3 day extension.
- In case there's still a tie then, the next voter decides by sudden death.
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We start with 32 films from 32 countries. Each country has a manager who determines which movie will be watched. In the first round the countries are divided into 8 groups of 4. From each group the countries that end up at #1 and #2 proceed to the next round. In the 2nd round the 16 remaining countries will be divided into 8 matches of 2. The managers pick a new movie. The winner of each match proceeds to the next round. This continues till the final.
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Already seen both movies lots of years ago.

1. Touki-Bouki 7/10
2. To proxenio tis Annas 6/10
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01 -. To proxenio tis Annas

02 - Touki-Bouki
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01. Το προξενιό της Άννας
02. Touki Bouki
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1. Touki-Bouki 6/10
2. To proxenio tis Annas 5/10

I saw Touki Bouki years ago and I remember it being more interesting than To proxenio tis Annas. To proxenio tis Annas needed more cat scenes because the cat is the best thing about the film.
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1. To proxenio tis Annas
2. Touki-Bouki
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1. Touki-Bouki (Senegal) 7/10
2. To proxenio tis Annas (Greece) 7/10
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#8

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Image Touki Bouki: 3
Image To proxenio tis Annas: 3
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1. To proxenio tis Annas 8/10
2. Touki-Bouki 7/10

Oh it will probably be a close call!
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kingink wrote: June 15th, 2020, 11:00 am 1. To proxenio tis Annas 8/10
2. Touki-Bouki 7/10

Oh it will probably be a close call!
No surprise-vote from you.
Remember making subs together for this one? :thumbsup:
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joachimt wrote: June 15th, 2020, 1:27 pm
kingink wrote: June 15th, 2020, 11:00 am 1. To proxenio tis Annas 8/10
2. Touki-Bouki 7/10

Oh it will probably be a close call!
No surprise-vote from you.
Remember making subs together for this one? :thumbsup:
WDYM? He voted indep-ly of you! :circle:
he or A. or Armo or any

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joachimt wrote: June 15th, 2020, 1:27 pm
kingink wrote: June 15th, 2020, 11:00 am 1. To proxenio tis Annas 8/10
2. Touki-Bouki 7/10

Oh it will probably be a close call!
No surprise-vote from you.
Remember making subs together for this one? :thumbsup:
Hehe... But I love it! I can't help it. And of course I remember! It was my first try! :) :thumbsup:
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Armoreska wrote: June 15th, 2020, 2:20 pm
joachimt wrote: June 15th, 2020, 1:27 pm
kingink wrote: June 15th, 2020, 11:00 am 1. To proxenio tis Annas 8/10
2. Touki-Bouki 7/10

Oh it will probably be a close call!
No surprise-vote from you.
Remember making subs together for this one? :thumbsup:
WDYM? He voted indep-ly of you! :circle:
404 Compatibility not found

Does not compute :circle: :circle: :circle:

How dare you betray me like that Joachim? :P
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1. To proxenio tis Annas
2. Touki-Bouki
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1. Touki Bouki - 8
2. To proxenio tis Annas - 6,5
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1. Touki-Bouki
2. To proxenio tis Annas
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1. To proxenio tis Annas 7/10
2. Touki-Bouki 6/10
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1. To proxenio tis Annas
2. Touki-Bouki
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1. To proxenio tis Annas
2. Touki-Bouki
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1. To proxenio tis Annas
2. Touki-Bouki
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Greece taking a clear lead at the moment.

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Image Touki Bouki: 5
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1. To proxenio tis Annas
2. Touki-Bouki

Sorry for Senegal, but the endless repetition of Josephine Baker's "Paris, Paris, Paris" really got on my nerves after some time
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1. To proxenio tis Annas (7/10)
2. Touki-Bouki (7/10)

Very close one for me, but "Anna's Engagement" is more memorable.
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1. Touki-Bouki 7-
2. To proxenio tis Annas 7-
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proxenio 7
t-b 7-

What is it with this season and N-H animal cruelty?
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and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
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1.To proxenio tis Annas
2.Touki Bouki

You know, I'm allergic to Godard or any kind of Godardesque cinema. :P
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Image To proxenio tis Annas: 13
Image Touki Bouki: 6
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1. Touki-Bouki 5/10
2. To proxenio tis Annas 5/10
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1.To proxenio tis Annas
2.Touki Bouki
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1. Touki-Bouki (1973) 7/10
2. To proxenio tis Annas (1972) 6/10

Two good films, Touki is colorful while Annas was more sober.
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This was a close one as I didn't find either film to be particularly stimulating; that's not to say they are bad films, they just didn't do much for me :shrug:

1. To proxenio tis Annas 5/10
2. Touki-Bouki 5/10
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1. Touki-Bouki
2. To proxenio tis Annas
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Image To proxenio tis Annas: 15
Image Touki Bouki: 9

1.5 day left.
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1.To proxenio tis Annas
2.Touki Bouki

(No offense to Touki Bouki -- I think it's a great film, too.)
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1.To proxenio tis Annas
2.Touki Bouki
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1. Journey of the Hyena - 7/10
2. The Matchmaking of Anna - 6ish/10

I saw Touki Bouki last year when I was contemplating films for the first round. I found it a serviceable drama that had great cinematography. Despite it touching upon some themes I wasn't expecting from 1970s Africa, overall it didn't hit me quite as hard as it could have. It could be a film that improves upon rewatch, but wasn't necessary right now.

I saw To proxenio tis Annas the other night, and I alternated between confused and bored. I read a summary of the film afterward, and my understanding of the course of events was rather different than the summary. I guess this one was just not for me. Some of the subtitles seemed odd to me (or missing, but I think it was mostly non-essential stuff like the radio and singing and group chatter), but I know how hard it is to translate so thanks to kingink and joachim for making them so that we could see this film.

A comeback for Senegal seems almost insurmountable at this point, so thanks y'all for playing, and congratulations Burneyfan :) I'm amazed Touki-Bouki still has less than 1000 checks.
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1. Touki Bouki
2. To proxenio tis Annas
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Match is over. Greece wins.

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Image Touki Bouki: 11

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