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iCM Forum's Favorite South Asian Movies; Results

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#81

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brokenface wrote: May 1st, 2020, 3:32 pm
sol wrote: May 1st, 2020, 3:28 pm Predictions for the Top 7:

Surely...
Spoiler
7. Pyaasa
6. The World of Apu
5. Aparajito
4. The Lonely Wife
3. The Big City
2. The Music Room
1. Pather Panchali
...right? Or did I miss any of those popping up earlier?
Think so. Flip 3 and 6 and that's what I'd guess the order too
Sounds about right. #7 was correct.
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#82

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How many non-India movies have made the list? And were they all from Sri Lanka?

Interested to see the full list.
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#6 Mahanagar [The Big City] (Satyajit Ray, 1963)
910.73 points, 593 checks, official lists: 4 :imdb:
12 voters
Cocoa (#5)
Fergenaprido (#6)
Gorro (#7)
hurluberlu (#18)
jeff_v (#19)
joachimt (unranked>6)
jvv (unranked)
Lonewolf2003 (#3)
mjf314 (#1)
OldAle1 (#16)
Smoover (#14)
sushantv10 (#6)
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#84

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mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 5:58 pm How many non-India movies have made the list? And were they all from Sri Lanka?

Interested to see the full list.
I will post some stats when I'm done.
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#85

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mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 5:58 pm How many non-India movies have made the list? And were they all from Sri Lanka?
#32 Travellers & Magicians [Travelers and Magicians] (Khyentse Norbu, 2003) is from Bhutan
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mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 4:23 pm #7 The Jungle Book (Wolfgang Reitherman, 1967)
1777.21 points, 71’334 checks, official lists: 11 :imdb:
11 voters
Sorry, little bored here
I wish I could vote for this film. It's one of the best Disney films imo.
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jvv wrote: May 1st, 2020, 6:07 pm
mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 5:58 pm How many non-India movies have made the list? And were they all from Sri Lanka?
#32 Travellers & Magicians [Travelers and Magicians] (Khyentse Norbu, 2003) is from Bhutan
Ah, now I remember why I downloaded it! Too
bad I didn‘t watch it, I guess I didn‘t have the subtitles. Damn!
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mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 6:21 pm
jvv wrote: May 1st, 2020, 6:07 pm
mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 5:58 pm How many non-India movies have made the list? And were they all from Sri Lanka?
#32 Travellers & Magicians [Travelers and Magicians] (Khyentse Norbu, 2003) is from Bhutan
Ah, now I remember why I downloaded it! Too
bad I didn‘t watch it, I guess I didn‘t have the subtitles. Damn!
Also #75 is Afghan, and I would have voted for it (top 5-10) if I hadn't gone with an all-Indian list.
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#5 Jalsaghar [The Music Room] (Satyajit Ray, 1958)
1022.36 points, 1567 checks, official lists: 10 :imdb:
13 voters
Cocoa (#19)
Gorro (#2)
hurluberlu (#1)
insomnius (#26)
jeff_v (#9)
joachimt (#5)
lineuphere (#4)
Lonewolf2003 (#8)
OldAle1 (#8)
rnilsson19 (#5)
sol (#30)
sushantv10 (#2)
TajSamKojiJesam (#1)
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#90

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I would be surprised if Pather Panchali isn't #1.
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Cocoa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 7:22 pm I would be surprised if Pather Panchali isn't #1.
I didn't really look at others' votes much as we were doing this, but it's my gut feeling as well. I'm just happy that Charulata will be in the top 4, and honestly, having just re-watching all four of the remaining films, I find it pretty hard to decide between them, all quite amazing films. In fact I pick Charulata in large part because deciding which of Apu trilogy is better or weaker than the others is impossible, really just a roll of the dice. This forum being what it is I'm sure we have some people who find huge, dramatic differences in quality between these films but nobody *should* be surprised that they're all ending up together at the top.
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#4 Charulata [The Lonely Wife] (Satyajit Ray, 1964)
1143.39 points, 1026 checks, official lists: 9 :imdb:
14 voters
beavis (#7)
Fergenaprido (#17)
Gorro (#12)
jeff_v (#6)
joachimt (#6)
jvv (unranked)
kingink (#4)
Lonewolf2003 (#6)
mjf314 (#6)
OldAle1 (#1)
rnilsson19 (#12)
Smoover (#4)
sushantv10 (#5)
zzzorf (#7)
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OldAle1 wrote: May 1st, 2020, 6:32 pm
mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 6:21 pm
jvv wrote: May 1st, 2020, 6:07 pm
#32 Travellers & Magicians [Travelers and Magicians] (Khyentse Norbu, 2003) is from Bhutan
Ah, now I remember why I downloaded it! Too
bad I didn‘t watch it, I guess I didn‘t have the subtitles. Damn!
Also #75 is Afghan, and I would have voted for it (top 5-10) if I hadn't gone with an all-Indian list.
ah,ok, but it‘s not official, so I‘m likely not going to watch it but I want to watch the travellors & magicians movie.

I myself voted for a pakistani movie „Khamosh Pani: Silent Waters“, but it didn‘t make the list, which is ok. It has good production values, but doesn‘t feel very authentic, I doubt they very somewhat restricted by the European money givers, which is a shame. So the movie became partly formulaic.
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#3 Apur Sansar [The World of Apu] (Satyajit Ray, 1959)
1168.84 points, 2212 checks, official lists: 19 :imdb:
13 voters
Fergenaprido (#16)
Gordon_Gekko (#3)
Gorro (#5)
hurluberlu (#3)
jeff_v (#1)
joachimt (#3)
kingink (#3)
lineuphere (#2)
Lonewolf2003 (#4)
Mysterious Dude (#3)
OldAle1 (#3)
Smoover (#1)
sushantv10 (#9)
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You can stone me, but I voted Apur Sansur 4.0/10 on imdb. Haven't seen enough Satyajit Ray to really say anything, but I suspect he's one of those directors who became better with age. Imo All the truly great directors (maybe other than Lynch and here it's clearly societies fault. Even even he became better and better till Mulholland Dr. and maybe also other than Jodorowsky, who stood in his own way with his uncalled for arrogance against Hollywood) belong to this pattern.
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#2 Aparajito [The Unvanquished] (Satyajit Ray, 1956)
1298.72 points, 2177 checks, official lists: 13 :imdb:
17 voters
Fergenaprido (#36)
Gordon_Gekko (#2)
Gorro (#16)
hurluberlu (#5)
insomnius (#46)
jeff_v (#5)
joachimt (#4)
jvv (unranked)
kingink (#2)
lineuphere (#3)
Lonewolf2003 (#1)
mathiasa (#15)
Mysterious Dude (#4)
OldAle1 (#5)
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (#8)
Smoover (#9)
sushantv10 (#15)
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#1 Pather Panchali (Satyajit Ray, 1955)
1710.14 points, 3598 checks, official lists: 21 :imdb:
21 voters
Caracortada (#16)
Cocoa (#24)
Gordon_Gekko (#1)
Gorro (#10)
hurluberlu (#7)
insomnius (#58)
jeff_v (#2)
joachimt (#1)
jvv (unranked)
kingink (#1)
lineuphere (#1)
Lonewolf2003 (#2)
mathiasa (#17)
maxwelldeux (unranked>2)
mjf314 (#2)
Mysterious Dude (#1)
OldAle1 (#4)
rnilsson19 (#8)
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (#5)
Smoover (#5)
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OldAle1 wrote: May 1st, 2020, 7:47 pm
Cocoa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 7:22 pm I would be surprised if Pather Panchali isn't #1.
I didn't really look at others' votes much as we were doing this, but it's my gut feeling as well. I'm just happy that Charulata will be in the top 4, and honestly, having just re-watching all four of the remaining films, I find it pretty hard to decide between them, all quite amazing films. In fact I pick Charulata in large part because deciding which of Apu trilogy is better or weaker than the others is impossible, really just a roll of the dice. This forum being what it is I'm sure we have some people who find huge, dramatic differences in quality between these films but nobody *should* be surprised that they're all ending up together at the top.
I became curious if this would be the case. As you can see there are 21 voters for the first, 17 for the second and 13 for the third. That could be because of people not having seen the other(s) yet when voting.

Vote distribution:

Pather Panchali Aparajito Apur Sansar
Caracortada (#16) Didn't vote for this Didn't vote for this
Cocoa (#24) Didn't vote for this Didn't vote for this
Gordon_Gekko (#1) Gordon_Gekko (#2) Gordon_Gekko (#3)
Gorro (#10) Gorro (#16) Gorro (#5)
hurluberlu (#7) hurluberlu (#5) hurluberlu (#3)
insomnius (#58) insomnius (#46) Didn't vote for this
jeff_v (#2) jeff_v (#5) jeff_v (#1)
joachimt (#1) joachimt (#4) joachimt (#3)
jvv (unranked) jvv (unranked) Didn't vote for this
kingink (#1) kingink (#2) kingink (#3)
lineuphere (#1) lineuphere (#3) lineuphere (#2)
Lonewolf2003 (#2) Lonewolf2003 (#1) Lonewolf2003 (#4)
mathiasa (#17) mathiasa (#15) Didn't vote for this
maxwelldeux (unranked>2) Didn't vote for this Didn't vote for this
mjf314 (#2) Didn't vote for this Didn't vote for this
Mysterious Dude (#1) Mysterious Dude (#4) Mysterious Dude (#3)
OldAle1 (#4) OldAle1 (#5) OldAle1 (#3)
rnilsson19 (#8) RogerTheMovieManiac88 (#8) Didn't vote for this
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (#5) Didn't vote for this Didn't vote for this
Smoover (#5) Smoover (#9) Smoover (#1)
sushantv10 (#8) sushantv10 (#15) sushantv10 (#9)
Didn't vote for this Fergenaprido (#36) Fergenaprido (#16)

For myself I have to say that the close rankings are also a result of not having seen many South Asian movies, the difference in ranking in my all-time fav list is much bigger.
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STATS

Decades

<1920s0
1920s2
1930s0
1940s0
1950s11
1960s10
1970s16
1980s8
1990s7
20009
2010s12



Country

India69
Bangladesh2
Afghanistan 2
Pakistan1
Bhutan1
Nepal1
Sri Lanka1
Maldives0



Genre

Action3
Adventure4
Biography3
Comedy5
Crime5
Documentary5
Drama63
Family2
Fantasy2
History2
Music9
Musical8
Mystery1
Romance11
Sport1
Thriller4
War3
Western1


Directors

Satyajit Ray16
Mani Kaul8
Ritwik Ghatak3
Amit Dutta
Guru Dutt
Deepa Mehta
Bimal Roy
Franz Osten
Govindan Aravindan
Aditya Vikram Sengupta
2
All others
Kumar Shahani
Ritesh Batra
Ashutosh Gowariker
Raj Kapoor
Chaitanya Tamhane
A.J. Kardar
Ramesh Sippy
Shekhar Kapur
Mehboob Khan
Khyentse Norbu
Anand Gandhi
Vetrimaaran
Raam Reddy
Himanshu Rai
K. Asif
Rajkumar Hirani
Siddiq Barmak
Eric Valli
Rajan Khosa
Shyam Benegal
S.N.S. Sastry
Sriram Raghavan
Prasanna Vithanage
Hrishikesh Mukherjee
Mrinal Sen
Neeraj Ghaywan
Bala
Atiq Rahimi
Michel Debats
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#100

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Thanks Lonewolf! Nicely done. I can't say I find the results that exciting or illuminating, but that's mostly due to the low turnout and list-size. Ah well, a couple of films here I hadn't heard of and a few others that bear looking into.
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#102

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OldAle1 wrote: May 1st, 2020, 10:14 pm Thanks Lonewolf! Nicely done. I can't say I find the results that exciting or illuminating, but that's mostly due to the low turnout and list-size. Ah well, a couple of films here I hadn't heard of and a few others that bear looking into.
Thanks. Yes, not very surprising results. Let's be honest this poll is partly because of our collective need to cover every part of the globe in these polls. :P
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All not one-voters movies in the complete list:

#76 Khayal Gatha [The Khayal Saga] (Kumar Shahani, 1989)
143.71 points, 23 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#4)
Perception de Ambiguity (#19)




#77 Neecha Nagar [Lowly City] (Chetan Anand, 1946)
141.76 points, 54 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
kingink (#13)
mathiasa (#9)




#78 Black (Sanjay Leela Bhansali, 2005)
141.6 points, 687 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Gorro (#22)
zzzorf (#3)




#79 Ganashatru [An Enemy of the People] (Satyajit Ray, 1989)
141.6 points, 107 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
Cocoa (#3)
jeff_v (#22)




#80 Satah Se Uthata Aadmi [Arising from the Surface] (Mani Kaul, 1980)
140.02 points, 19 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#8)
rnilsson19 (#15)




#81 Ugly (Anurag Kashyap, 2013)
139.18 points, 170 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Fergenaprido (#10)
sushantv10 (#13)




#82 Tasher Desh [Land of Cards] (Qaushiq Mukherjee, 2012)
135.36 points, 14 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
OldAle1 (#31)
Onderhond (#1)




#83 The Red Phallus (Tashi Gyeltshen, 2018)
135.19 points, 22 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Gordon_Gekko (#4)
Smoover (#24)




#84 Dukhtar (Afia Nathaniel, 2014)
135 points, 60 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
jvv (unranked)
Mysterious Dude (#20)




#85 Shree 420 [Mr. 420] (Raj Kapoor, 1955)
132.5 points, 339 checks, official lists: 4 :imdb:
4 voters
Gorro (#29)
mathiasa (#20)
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (unranked>12)
sushantv10 (#61)




#86 Sulanga Enu Pinisa [The Forsaken Land] (Vimukthi Jayasundara, 2005)
132.03 points, 46 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
kingink (#12)
mathiasa (#14)




#87 The Cloud Door [Die Himmelspforte] (Mani Kaul, 1994)
129.52 points, 32 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Perception de Ambiguity (#22)
rnilsson19 (#7)




#88 Matir moina [The Clay Bird] (Tareque Masud, 2002)
129.37 points, 89 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
Fergenaprido (#19)
Mysterious Dude (#9)




#89 Boatman (Gianfranco Rosi, 1993)
125.74 points, 7 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Perception de Ambiguity (#17)
TajSamKojiJesam (#12)




#90 Khuda Gawah [God Is My Witness] (Mukul Anand, 1992)
121.84 points, 106 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
3 voters
Cocoa (#17)
OldAle1 (#14)
sushantv10 (#145)




#91 Parched (Leena Yadav, 2015)
121.45 points, 67 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Caracortada (#18)
Fergenaprido (#13)




#92 The Seventh Walk (Amit Dutta, 2013)
120.85 points, 6 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#24)
Perception de Ambiguity (#9)




#93 Joi Baba Felunath [The Elephant God] (Satyajit Ray, 1979)
120.5 points, 74 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Cocoa (#8)
jeff_v (#26)




#94 Ghatashraddha [The Ritual] (Girish Kasaravalli, 1977)
118.92 points, 31 checks, official lists: 2 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#34)
Mysterious Dude (#5)




#95 Hum Aapke Hain Koun...! (Sooraj R. Barjatya, 1994)
118.82 points, 786 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
3 voters
Cocoa (#7)
Fergenaprido (#30)
sushantv10 (#134)




#96 Taare Zameen Par [Like Stars on Earth] (Aamir Khan, Amole Gupte, 2007)
118.56 points, 3705 checks, official lists: 3 :imdb:
3 voters
Fergenaprido (#25)
Smoover (#26)
sushantv10 (#33)




#97 Teen Kanya [Three Daughters] (Satyajit Ray, 1961)
118.3 points, 149 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
3 voters
jeff_v (#16)
OldAle1 (#28)
sushantv10 (#48)




#98 Boot Polish (Prakash Arora, 1954)
115.54 points, 72 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (#2)
sushantv10 (#49)




#99 Devdas (Sanjay Leela Bhansali, 2002)
115.06 points, 1053 checks, official lists: 3 :imdb:
2 voters
Smoover (#30)
zzzorf (#8)




#100 Kanchenjungha (Satyajit Ray, 1962)
113.36 points, 81 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#12)
OldAle1 (#24)



#101 Fire (Deepa Mehta, 1996)
112.02 points, 314 checks, official lists: 2 :imdb:
2 voters
Caracortada (#14)
Smoover (#22)




#102 Forest of Bliss (Robert Gardner, 1986)
111.15 points, 87 checks, official lists: 3 :imdb:
2 voters
Perception de Ambiguity (#46)
TajSamKojiJesam (#4)




#103 Jana Aranya [The Middleman] (Satyajit Ray, 1975)
106.19 points, 58 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
jeff_v (#10)
OldAle1 (#33)




#104 Jaane Bhi Do Yaaro [Who Pays the Piper] (Kundan Shah, 1983)
105.36 points, 473 checks, official lists: 2 :imdb:
2 voters
mjf314 (#5)
sushantv10 (#50)




#105 Mahapurush [The Holy Man] (Satyajit Ray, 1965)
103.87 points, 113 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
jeff_v (#29)
Lonewolf2003 (#13)




#106 Vrindavana (Ernesto Baca, 2010)
103.59 points, 2 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Perception de Ambiguity (#21)
TajSamKojiJesam (#19)




#107 Khamosh Pani: Silent Waters (Sabiha Sumar, 2003)
101.51 points, 56 checks, official lists: 2 :imdb:
2 voters
kingink (#16)
mathiasa (#26)




#112 Guide (Vijay Anand, 1965)
99.43 points, 416 checks, official lists: 3 :imdb:
2 voters
beavis (#11)
Gorro (#37)




#113 Bandini (Bimal Roy, 1963)
98.65 points, 113 checks, official lists: 2 :imdb:
2 voters
Cocoa (#12)
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (unranked>12)




#118 Shri Krishna Janma (Dhundiraj Govind Phalke, 1918)
93.29 points, 22 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
3 voters
kingink (#27)
OldAle1 (#40)
Perception de Ambiguity (#39)




#119 Hamara Shahar - Bombay, Our City (Anand Patwardhan, 1985)
92.79 points, 12 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#17)
Perception de Ambiguity (#31)




#120 Bãhubali: The Beginning [Baahubali: The Beginning] (S.S. Rajamouli, 2015)
92.38 points, 485 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
beavis (#20)
Gorro (#27)




#121 Sonar Kella [The Golden Fortress] (Satyajit Ray, 1974)
91.59 points, 55 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Mysterious Dude (#32)
sol (#17)




#122 Goopy Gyne Bagha Byne [The Adventures of Goopy and Bagha] (Satyajit Ray, 1969)
90.52 points, 118 checks, official lists: 3 :imdb:
2 voters
OldAle1 (#39)
sol (#14)




#126 Swades: We, the People [Our Country] (Ashutosh Gowariker, 2004)
89.3 points, 1888 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
Gorro (#34)
sushantv10 (#17)




#127 Bãhubali 2: The Conclusion (S.S. Rajamouli, 2017)
89.23 points, 350 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
beavis (#21)
Gorro (#28)




#128 That Cloud Never Left (Yashaswini Raghunandan, 2019)
87.74 points, 3 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Perception de Ambiguity (#45)
TajSamKojiJesam (#13)




#131 Samskara [Funeral Rites] (Pattabhi Rama Reddy, 1970)
86.26 points, 31 checks, official lists: 2 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#35)
TajSamKojiJesam (#18)




#139 Gumnaam (Raja Nawathe, 1965)
81.86 points, 67 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Fergenaprido (#34)
sol (#21)




#146 Ghashiram Kotwal (Saeed Akhtar Mirza, Kamal Swaroop, K. Hariharan, Mani Kaul, 1976)
78.46 points, 11 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#28)
Perception de Ambiguity (#28)




#159 Jodhaa Akbar (, 2008)
71.28 points, 487 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Caracortada (#11)
sushantv10 (#150)




#166 Tumbbad (, 2018)
69.51 points, 137 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
hurluberlu (#17)
sushantv10 (#62)




#167 Events in a Cloud Chamber (, Documentary, Short)
69.18 points, 1 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Perception de Ambiguity (#44)
TajSamKojiJesam (#23)




#168 Rabindranath Tagore (, 1961)
68.96 points, 116 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
kingink (#28)
OldAle1 (#36)




#175 Dil Chahta Hai (, 2001)
64.33 points, 2079 checks, official lists: 2 :imdb:
2 voters
Fergenaprido (#23)
sushantv10 (#51)




#179 Printed Rainbow (, 2006)
63.34 points, 16 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Perception de Ambiguity (#33)
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (unranked>12)




#180 Roja (, 1992)
62.21 points, 290 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (unranked>12)
sushantv10 (#34)




#187 Amar Akbar Anthony (, 1977)
60.42 points, 735 checks, official lists: 4 :imdb:
2 voters
Fergenaprido (#44)
sushantv10 (#29)




#188 Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge (, 1995)
60.42 points, 2124 checks, official lists: 6 :imdb:
2 voters
lineuphere (#16)
sushantv10 (#135)




#189 Bombay (, 1995)
60.08 points, 451 checks, official lists: 2 :imdb:
2 voters
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (unranked>12)
sushantv10 (#36)




#194 Vidheyan (, 1994)
56.82 points, 14 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#19)
sushantv10 (#100)




#203 Charachar [Shelter of the Wings] (, 1994)
52.04 points, 14 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#37)
Perception de Ambiguity (#43)




#207 Black Friday (, 2004)
50.06 points, 429 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
Mysterious Dude (#33)
sushantv10 (#52)




#218 Masoom [Innocent] (, 1983)
47.35 points, 314 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
Fergenaprido (#33)
sushantv10 (#57)




#225 Do Ankhen Barah Haath [Two Eyes, Twelve Hands] (, 1957)
45.74 points, 176 checks, official lists: 2 :imdb:
2 voters
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (unranked>12)
sushantv10 (#55)




#226 Satyam Shivam Sundaram: Love Sublime (, 1978)
45.21 points, 41 checks, official lists: 0 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#56)
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (unranked>12)




#232 Mirch Masala [Spices] (, 1987)
44.45 points, 152 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
insomnius (#42)
sushantv10 (#47)




#260 Rang De Basanti (, 2006)
31.53 points, 2786 checks, official lists: 3 :imdb:
2 voters
Gorro (#35)
sushantv10 (#142)




#261 Rangeela (, 1995)
30.96 points, 365 checks, official lists: 1 :imdb:
2 voters
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (unranked>12)
sushantv10 (#148)
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Seen: 21/75
Highest unseen: #7 Pyaasa
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mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 9:26 pm You can stone me, but I voted Apur Sansur 4.0/10 on imdb. Haven't seen enough Satyajit Ray to really say anything, but I suspect he's one of those directors who became better with age. Imo All the truly great directors (maybe other than Lynch and here it's clearly societies fault. Even even he became better and better till Mulholland Dr. and maybe also other than Jodorowsky, who stood in his own way with his uncalled for arrogance against Hollywood) belong to this pattern.
Some directors, like Hitchcock, spent decades honing the craft, but I tend to think the greatest directors peaked young, including Ray (also Truffaut, Godard, Scorsese, Coppola, Woody Allen, Orson Welles).
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All not one-voters movies in the complete list:
Oh yay, I see more films I voted for.

Seen: 34/75
Highest unseen: #8 Meghe Dhaka Tara.

Meghe Dhaka Tara just got added to the Criterion Channel today so I will watch it soon :lol: My next highest unseen is #11 Salaam Bombay!
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Mysterious Dude wrote: May 1st, 2020, 10:56 pm
mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 9:26 pm You can stone me, but I voted Apur Sansur 4.0/10 on imdb. Haven't seen enough Satyajit Ray to really say anything, but I suspect he's one of those directors who became better with age. Imo All the truly great directors (maybe other than Lynch and here it's clearly societies fault. Even even he became better and better till Mulholland Dr. and maybe also other than Jodorowsky, who stood in his own way with his uncalled for arrogance against Hollywood) belong to this pattern.
Some directors, like Hitchcock, spent decades honing the craft, but I tend to think the greatest directors peaked young, including Ray (also Truffaut, Godard, Scorsese, Coppola, Woody Allen, Orson Welles).
Very interesting is that I find all the directors in your parentheses slightly overrated, so you're surely up to something. And you're absolutely correct that they all had their best movies at a young age, although Woody Allen was best somewhat later than his mainstream peak and he's rather constant in his quality, it's more the audience that has changed (also because of moral issues regarding his *weird* sexual/personal life). Godard aged probably the worst.
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It's sad that Neecha Nagar didn't make the list. Such an important film, influencing the European New Wave movements.

Seen 26/75 and 39/416

Highest unseen: #4-#7 all by Ray. It seems I have some housework.
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Thanks for hosting, lonewolf.

Seen: 20/75
Highest unseen: Jalsaghar (#5)
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OldAle1 wrote: May 1st, 2020, 7:47 pm
Cocoa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 7:22 pm I would be surprised if Pather Panchali isn't #1.
I didn't really look at others' votes much as we were doing this, but it's my gut feeling as well. I'm just happy that Charulata will be in the top 4, and honestly, having just re-watching all four of the remaining films, I find it pretty hard to decide between them, all quite amazing films. In fact I pick Charulata in large part because deciding which of Apu trilogy is better or weaker than the others is impossible, really just a roll of the dice. This forum being what it is I'm sure we have some people who find huge, dramatic differences in quality between these films but nobody *should* be surprised that they're all ending up together at the top.
I think Charulata would've been the only film on my list.. which is why I didn't submit one but maybe I should've to boost it.
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Thanks Lonewolf
Turned out to be more interesting than i had thought, even though there weren't many surprises
Seen 55/75
Salaam Bombay and Lagaan my highest unseen
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Lonewolf2003 wrote: May 1st, 2020, 10:17 pm
OldAle1 wrote: May 1st, 2020, 10:14 pm Thanks Lonewolf! Nicely done. I can't say I find the results that exciting or illuminating, but that's mostly due to the low turnout and list-size. Ah well, a couple of films here I hadn't heard of and a few others that bear looking into.
Thanks. Yes, not very surprising results. Let's be honest this poll is partly because of our collective need to cover every part of the globe in these polls. :P
True, but it's also a very productive region (country) with a long film history. I'm glad we were able to pull together a decent Top 75, and even all the top 100 have at least 2 voters, and a few non-Indian films managed to make it. This is definitely one of the forum lists I'll be working on.

Thanks for hosting Lonewolf!

Movies seen: 28/75 (37%)
Movies I voted for: 18/75 (24%) (40% of my list of 45)
Highest movie unseen: #5 Jalsaghar [The Music Room]
Highest favourite: #10 Agantuk [The Stranger]
Highest dislike: #20 Uski Roti [Our Daily Bread]
Highest (non-favourite) movie I voted for: #2 Aparajito [The Unvanquished]
Highest (non-dislike) movie seen I didn't vote for: #1 Pather Panchali [Song of the Little Road]
Position of my #1: #35 Visaaranai [The Interrogation]
My highest vote that didn't make the list: #130 Peepli (Live) (my #5)

P.S. Lonewolf, while icm says you can't use bbcode in List descriptions, for some reason the

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Thanks Lonewolf.
Seen 45/75, more than I had expected.
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Thanks Lonewolf. I didn't submit a list because it would have basically been Satyajit Ray's filmography ranked, and he certainly didn't need my help to dominate.

List shows me some of my blind spots in this area, particularly Mani Kaul who directed all three of the highest ranked films i haven't seen. I'm 33/75 for the list but 0/8 for Kaul.
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I didn’t participate, but followed the countdown. Thanks for hosting it LW.

52/75 seen.
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Since I was curious, I decided to put together a list of the primary languages used in the films on the list. In each case, I used the first language listed by IMDb for the film except where IMDb did not list a language.

LanguageNumber of films
Hindi32
Bengali20
Malayalam4
English4
Tamil3
Urdu2
Marathi1
Dzongkha1
Kannada1
N/A (silent film)1
French1
Tibetan1
Dogri1
Sinhala1
none1
Persian1
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I've seen 12/75 and 76/416.

It's a pretty nice list, if a little top-heavy with Ray's masterworks. I think that, particularly lower down the Top 75, there's quite a welcome sprinkling of works from intriguing people such as Govindan Aravindan and John Abraham (both of whom I am very eager to see stuff from).

I particularly liked some of the two vote entries that showed up after the Top 75. Sushantv10 appears to be my partnering voter on a number of them. He obviously has good taste, haahaa.

It's a bit of a pity to see no representation from the '30s and '40s. I was hoping that V. Shantaram's 'Manoos' might have found a spot. A superb and engrossing social drama of love strained and made all the more interesting and intimate by the stage-bound elements in the Kammerspiel tradition. I don't know whether I was the sole voter for that one but it's an outstanding example of socially aware and attuned cinema of pre-Independence Indian cinema.

Thanks for the countdown, Lonewolf. I enjoyed keeping tabs on that!
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Thanks for hosting the poll, LW. A little more variation in the top 6 would have been nice, but this was to be expected. It's weird that Indian movies don't have a great following among European cinephiles, while other Asian countries do.
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Well, popular cinema from countries that are not the US (or the UK) is generally not popular. And that's what India excels at more than anything.
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mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 6:21 pm
jvv wrote: May 1st, 2020, 6:07 pm
mathiasa wrote: May 1st, 2020, 5:58 pm How many non-India movies have made the list? And were they all from Sri Lanka?
#32 Travellers & Magicians [Travelers and Magicians] (Khyentse Norbu, 2003) is from Bhutan
Ah, now I remember why I downloaded it! Too
bad I didn‘t watch it, I guess I didn‘t have the subtitles. Damn!
I've seen it now. I did have the subtitles, I just forgot about it. Damn! I now added it to my list at #12.
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