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World Cup, Season 4, Match 1E: Czechia vs France vs Georgia vs Mexico (Mar 18th)

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World Cup, Season 4, Match 1E: Czechia vs France vs Georgia vs Mexico (Mar 18th)

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This is match 1E of the fourth season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

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CzechiaS certy nejsou zertyGive the Devil His Due1985mjf314linklink
FranceCent mille dollars au soleilGreed in the Sun1964Mochardlinklink
GeorgiaGrzeli nateli dgeebiIn Bloom2013zzzorflinklink
MexicoAyer Maravilla FuiYesterday Wonder I Was201772aicmlinklink

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S certy nejsou zerty
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Cent mille dollars au soleil
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Ayer Maravilla Fui
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- You must watch all 4 films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 4 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

Voting deadline = Mar 18th
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The countries that end at 1st and 2nd place proceed to the next round. The ranking of the match will be decided using these rules:
- Ranked by highest average ranking (= lowest number).
- In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
- In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between three or four movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? Fewest #4-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #3 and #4).
Here's a quick summary of how the tournament works
We start with 32 films from 32 countries. Each country has a manager who determines which movie will be watched. In the first round the countries are divided into 8 groups of 4. From each group the countries that end up at #1 and #2 proceed to the next round. In the 2nd round the 16 remaining countries will be divided into 8 matches of 2. The managers pick a new movie. The winner of each match proceeds to the next round. This continues till the final.
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1. Grzeli nateli dgeebi
2. Cent mille dollars au soleil
3. Ayer Maravilla Fui
4. S čerty nejsou žerty
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#3

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That's the most long titled match
he or A. or Armo or any

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currently working towards a vegan/free world + thru such film lists: GODARD, r/antinatalism recommends,..
the rest
ANARCHISTS, ANIMAL RIGHTS, Assisted suicide, Existential films, SOCIALIST CINEMA (an amalgamation of lists), Feminist lists, various GSSRM lists (aka LGBTQ+), 2010s bests, Visual Effects nominees, kid-related stuff, great animes (mini-serie or feature), very 80s movies, mah huge sci-fi list, ENVIRO, remarkable Silent Films and Pre-Code (exploring 1925 atm) and every shorts and docu list I'm aware of and
/forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
imaginary awards | youtube channels | complaint lounge | explain how big a fan of slavery you are here, ..viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1535 and here: ..viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4484
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#4

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1. Ayer Maravilla Fui
2. Cent mille dollars au soleil
3. Grzeli nateli dgeebi
4. S certy nejsou zerty
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1. Cent mille dollars au soleil 7 (watched before WC)
2. Grzeli nateli dgeebi 7- (watched before WC)
3. Ayer Maravilla Fui 6+
4. S certy nejsou zerty 5-
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Not a good start for Czechia. All three voters so far voted it #4.
8.3 on IMDb, but people here seem to disagree.
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And all #1s are so far different. Cent mille takes an early lead.
he or A. or Armo or any

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currently working towards a vegan/free world + thru such film lists: GODARD, r/antinatalism recommends,..
the rest
ANARCHISTS, ANIMAL RIGHTS, Assisted suicide, Existential films, SOCIALIST CINEMA (an amalgamation of lists), Feminist lists, various GSSRM lists (aka LGBTQ+), 2010s bests, Visual Effects nominees, kid-related stuff, great animes (mini-serie or feature), very 80s movies, mah huge sci-fi list, ENVIRO, remarkable Silent Films and Pre-Code (exploring 1925 atm) and every shorts and docu list I'm aware of and
/forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
imaginary awards | youtube channels | complaint lounge | explain how big a fan of slavery you are here, ..viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1535 and here: ..viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4484
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1. Grzeli nateli dgeebi 7/10
2. Ayer Maravilla Fui 6/10
3. Cent mille dollars au soleil 5/10
4. S certy nejsou zerty 5/10

I would have put S certy nejsou zerty third if the film didn't felt so repetitive. I felt like I was watching the same scene over and over again.

I wasn't a fan of the gun subplot in Grzeli nateli dgeebi, but besides that it's a great film and I enjoyed the direction and acting.

I felt like Ayer Maravilla Fui would have been better if it was either shorter with less content or longer with more content. The last part of the film wasn't that strong compared to the first half.

Cent mille dollars au soleil was simply boring for me. It wasn't bad, but I just didn't find it engaging.
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Image Grzeli nateli dgeebi 9-3
Image Cent mille dollars au soleil 8-4
Image Ayer Maravilla Fui 7-5
Image S čerty nejsou žerty 0-12
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1.Grzeli nateli dgeebi
2.Cent mille dollars au soleil
3.S certy nejsou zerty
4.Ayer Maravilla Fui

Not a strong group for me, but quite welcome, with four films against the tide on a way or another.
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Wow the Czechs had an impressive run of no points, now with 1.
he or A. or Armo or any

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currently working towards a vegan/free world + thru such film lists: GODARD, r/antinatalism recommends,..
the rest
ANARCHISTS, ANIMAL RIGHTS, Assisted suicide, Existential films, SOCIALIST CINEMA (an amalgamation of lists), Feminist lists, various GSSRM lists (aka LGBTQ+), 2010s bests, Visual Effects nominees, kid-related stuff, great animes (mini-serie or feature), very 80s movies, mah huge sci-fi list, ENVIRO, remarkable Silent Films and Pre-Code (exploring 1925 atm) and every shorts and docu list I'm aware of and
/forum.icmforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo
imaginary awards | youtube channels | complaint lounge | explain how big a fan of slavery you are here, ..viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1535 and here: ..viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4484
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1. Cent mille dollars au soleil - 7/10
2. Grzeli nateli dgeebi - 6.5/10
3. Ayer Maravilla Fui - 6.5/10
4. S čerty nejsou žerty 5.5/10
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01. Ayer Maravilla Fui

02. Cent mille dollars au soleil

03. Grzeli nateli dgeebi

04. S certy nejsou
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Will this be the worst WC performance since Splash Splash Love?

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joachimt wrote: February 26th, 2020, 7:12 am Will this be the worst WC performance since Splash Splash Love?

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Maybe, but this just makes we want to see it that much more, even if it turns out to be a bad as everyone makes it out to be thus far. I'd be surprised if mjf chose a real stinker :D
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Fergenaprido wrote: February 26th, 2020, 12:35 pm I'd be surprised if mjf chose a real stinker :D
It was mjf who chose Splash Splash Love. tehe
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Maybe it'll catch up when the Czech people start voting. It has a very good rating on CSFD.
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mjf314 wrote: February 26th, 2020, 2:46 pm Maybe it'll catch up when the Czech people start voting. It has a very good rating on CSFD.
It's only HVM on this forum but he barely participated at all.
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splash splash love was fun ; I would have rated šplíchnutí šplíchnutí laska higher
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1. Ayer Maravilla Fui
2. Cent mille dollars au soleil
3. S certy nejsou
4. Grzeli nateli dgeebi
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1. Ayer Maravilla Fui 9/10
2. Cent mille dollars au soleil 7+/10
3. Grzeli nateli dgeebi 6/10
4. S certy nejsou zerty 6-/10
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Mexico took over 2nd place.

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Georgia meanwhile fell from 1st to 3rd position.


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1. Ayer Maravilla Fui - 7.5
2. Grzeli nateli dgeebi - 7.5
3. Cent mille dollars au soleil - 7
4. S certy nejsou zerty - 6.5

Some potentially cool movies, with lot's of fun and/or cool elements, but all of them felt flawed to me, in their own way. no real disasters though ;)
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joachimt wrote: February 28th, 2020, 7:40 pm Mexico took over 2nd place.

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Wow, I can't believe it.
When I looked at the graph, I thought you missed one country, then I realized it was always near the bottom.
Is the film really that bad? Now I'm really interesting to watch it, just for another reason.
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I don't think it's bad, just silly and not a very rewarding experience. The others have a lot more interesting ideas/themes/feelings for me.
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1. Ayer Maravilla Fui - 7.0
2. Grzeli nateli dgeebi - 7.0
3. Cent mille dollars au soleil - 6.5
4. S certy nejsou zerty - 6.0
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1 Grzeli nateli dgeebi
2 Ayer Maravilla Fui
3 S certy nejsou zerty
4 Cent mille dollars au soleil
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1. Cent mille dollars au soleil
2. Grzeli nateli dgeebi
3. S certy nejsou zerty
4. Ayer Maravilla Fui
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1. Grzeli nateli dgeebi (Georgia) 7/10
2. Ayer Maravilla Fui (Mexico) 7/10
3. Cent mille dollars au soleil (France) 6/10
4. S certy nejsou zerty (Czechia) 5/10
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1. S certy nejsou zerty (1985) 6/10
2. Cent mille dollars au soleil (1964) 6/10
3. Grzeli nateli dgeebi (2013) 5/10
4. Ayer Maravilla Fui (2017) 5/10

Czechia's remontada is on, better watch out. Silly yes, but I had a lot of fun. Georgia and Mexico left me quite cold, despise interesting ideas.
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Image Grzeli nateli dgeebi 29-16
Image Ayer Maravilla Fui 27-18
Image Cent mille dollars au soleil 27-18
Image S čerty nejsou žerty 7-38

Ayer Maravilla Fui - Cent mille dollars au soleil 9-6 (head-to-head)

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1. Grzeli nateli dgeebi (7/10) I watched this movie last year in March for my March Around the World challenge on Letterboxd and this is what I had to say
"There is something about European coming-of-age stories that just sits so well with me. I think it just comes down to their honesty, they don't try to skim around the issues and hit them head on, and they seem to understand exactly what really goes on. This movie was another fine example of that. This is only my second Georgian film (I saw Corn Island late last year) but from what I have seen I am looking forward to going further into their catalogue."
Well now I'm getting that chance to further explore their catalogue as I will hopefully advance further in this competition.

2. Cent mille dollars au soleil (7/10) This was quite an entertaining chase movie. The scenery was beautiful and the antics between the two trucks and outsiders was great. I think there was a couple of characters that needed a bit more depth but overall it was an entertaining movie. Also had one of the best uses of a MacGuffin that I can remember.

3. Ayer Maravilla Fui (7/10) This movie started off very slow but once the body changed kicked in the first time it started to pick up. While nothing was really resolved at the end, everything was set up really well for a pretty enjoyable, thought provoking movie.

4. S čerty nejsou žerty (5/10) Compared to the other movies I have watched for this World Cup this was easily the most unique of them all. It was an interesting watch and shows just how out there European tales can get. At times I think it went a little more over the top than really was needed to but in the end I was pleased with the happy ever after ending. I wouldn't mind seeing more of its kind, just for the sheer fun of it but not something I can rate highly.
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1 Grzeli nateli dgeebi
2 S čerty nejsou žerty
3 Ayer Maravilla Fui
4 Cent mille dollars au soleil
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1. Grzeli nateli dgeebi (2013) - 7.4
2. Cent mille dollars au soleil (1964) - 7.1
3. S certy nejsou zerty (1985) - 6.1
4. Ayer Maravilla Fui (2017) - 6.0
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That was an interesting round.
1. Grzeli nateli dgeebi 8/10 I really liked this one. A very honest and well-thought movie.
2. Ayer Maravilla Fui 7/10 The film had a very interesting idea and a surprising ending. I had some reservations about the direction and the pacing of the film so it got a 7.
3. Cent mille dollars au soleil 7/10 Always happy to watch Belmondo. There is something about that man that draws my attention even if I don't like the movie. Nice film but unfortunately it had it's flaws.
4. S certy nejsou zerty 6/10 I liked the fairy tale vibe of the film, the cinematography, the colors of the film. Too bad it got a bit childish at some point towards the end.
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1. Ayer Maravilla Fui AKA Yesterday Wonder I Was (2017) - Gabriel Mariño
2. Grzeli nateli dgeebi AKA In Bloom (2013) - Simon Groß, Nana Ekvtimishvili
3. Cent mille dollars au soleil AKA Greed in the Sun (1964) - Henri Verneuil
4. S certy nejsou zerty AKA Give the Devil His Due (1985) - Hynek Bocan
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1. Ayer Maravilla Fui
2. Cent mille dollars au soleil
3. Grzeli nateli dgeebi
4. S čerty nejsou žerty
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Image Grzeli nateli dgeebi 44-19
Image Ayer Maravilla Fui 37-26
Image Cent mille dollars au soleil 35-28
Image S čerty nejsou žerty 10-53

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