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Re: World Cup, Season 4, Match 1E: Czechia vs France vs Georgia vs Mexico (Mar 18th)

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Post by tommy_leazaq » March 16th, 2020, 6:24 pm

I have been fond of my 100% record here in the world cup from the first season that I have overcome many obstacles like personal issues, health conditions, work commitments etc. to keep the streak alive. But the recent virus development and its express progress has been very disconcerting to me that my mind cant concentrate in any other things for the past week. Including films. So I am gonna take a break from film watching for a while and hence for the first time I will be missing a round. I actually watched Mexican and French films already (both are very good). Two more films in two more days should be manageable but I simply cant. So that is it. Guess I would console myself that it took a global pandemic to stop my streak :)

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Post by joachimt » March 16th, 2020, 8:23 pm

tommy_leazaq wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 6:24 pm
Guess I would console myself that it took a global pandemic to stop my streak :)
I couldn't help but laugh at this sentence, although it's a sad situation.
Take care Tommy! And of course there are more important things in life than perfect WC participation. :hug:
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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 16th, 2020, 8:53 pm

joachimt wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 8:23 pm
tommy_leazaq wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 6:24 pm
Guess I would console myself that it took a global pandemic to stop my streak :)
I couldn't help but laugh at this sentence, although it's a sad situation.
Take care Tommy! And of course there are more important things in life than perfect WC participation. :hug:
I thought staying home (in bed with hot cocoa and bunny slippers) as doctors recommend gives more time to watch films than normally. :whistling:

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Post by 72aicm » March 16th, 2020, 8:59 pm

tommy_leazaq wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 6:24 pm
Guess I would console myself that it took a global pandemic to stop my streak :)
Take care Tommy, you could always revisit this group and watch the remaining films later, when things have calmed down. :)

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#45

Post by Armoreska » March 16th, 2020, 9:25 pm

joachimt wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 8:23 pm
Take care Tommy! And of course there are more important things in life than perfect WC participation.
Now-now, let's not get too soft. IDK about u guys but voting in WC is my #3 priority, after obviously personal safety and of non-human animals. :folded:

France could have won a different group

Ayer Maravilla Fui 8
Grzeli nateli dgeebi 7+
Cent mille dollars au soleil 7-
S certy nejsou zerty 5+
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Post by tommy_leazaq » March 17th, 2020, 1:36 am

Thanks for the kind words guys. Yes, I still intend to download the wc films and save them for later watch.

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#47

Post by tommy_leazaq » March 17th, 2020, 1:37 am

Mario Gaborović wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 8:53 pm
joachimt wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 8:23 pm
tommy_leazaq wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 6:24 pm
Guess I would console myself that it took a global pandemic to stop my streak :)
I couldn't help but laugh at this sentence, although it's a sad situation.
Take care Tommy! And of course there are more important things in life than perfect WC participation. :hug:
I thought staying home (in bed with hot cocoa and bunny slippers) as doctors recommend gives more time to watch films than normally. :whistling:
Time is not the problem. In fact in the past week I had more free time than usual but the Mind, its simply not there.

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Post by joachimt » March 17th, 2020, 6:44 am

tommy_leazaq wrote:
March 17th, 2020, 1:37 am
Mario Gaborović wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 8:53 pm
joachimt wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 8:23 pm

I couldn't help but laugh at this sentence, although it's a sad situation.
Take care Tommy! And of course there are more important things in life than perfect WC participation. :hug:
I thought staying home (in bed with hot cocoa and bunny slippers) as doctors recommend gives more time to watch films than normally. :whistling:
Time is not the problem. In fact in the past week I had more free time than usual but the Mind, its simply not there.
Time might become a problem for me. Apart from teaching my classes through Microsoft Teams, I also have my kids at home now so I have to be their substitute teacher as well.
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Post by sacmersault » March 18th, 2020, 5:04 am

1. Ayer Maravilla Fui
2. Grzeli nateli dgeebi
3. S certy nejsou zerty
4. Cent mille dollars au soleil

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Post by Armoreska » March 18th, 2020, 11:13 am

Congrats to Georgia & Mexico. Another group of death. This WC might end up known as graveyard for big countries.
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#51

Post by Fergenaprido » March 18th, 2020, 11:32 am

Armoreska wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 11:13 am
Congrats to Georgia & Mexico. Another group of death. This WC might end up known as graveyard for big countries.
Don't congratulate them too early, still almost 24 hours left. I have one film to go (France), and right now it looks like Mexico will be my bottom film.

In general, I think posting premature congratulations is a bit discouraging for those of us still in the process of watching, as it makes it sound as if our vote won't matter. Besides... some of these matches have been decided with the last few votes in the last few hours.

(But yes, I'll be surprised if Georgia doesn't win/advance, and I'll be downright shocked if Czechia makes a comeback.)

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Post by 72aicm » March 18th, 2020, 11:33 am

Armoreska wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 11:13 am
Congrats to Georgia & Mexico. Another group of death. This WC might end up known as graveyard for big countries.
Don’t jinx it! :down:
Almost 24h left, and several players have yet to vote.

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#53

Post by Armoreska » March 18th, 2020, 11:50 am

Fergenaprido wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 11:32 am
Armoreska wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 11:13 am
Congrats to Georgia & Mexico. Another group of death. This WC might end up known as graveyard for big countries.
Don't congratulate them too early, still almost 24 hours left. I have one film to go (France), and right now it looks like Mexico will be my bottom film.

In general, I think posting premature congratulations is a bit discouraging for those of us still in the process of watching, as it makes it sound as if our vote won't matter. Besides... some of these matches have been decided with the last few votes in the last few hours.

(But yes, I'll be surprised if Georgia doesn't win/advance, and I'll be downright shocked if Czechia makes a comeback.)
Exactly. Late voters should stick it to me and vote for France :lol:
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Post by filmbantha » March 18th, 2020, 12:57 pm

1. Cent mille dollars au soleil - I initially rated this a 6 but it's the film that has lingered on my mind the most out of this group so I think I may actually up my rating to a 7 now. Regardless of the rating, it's certainly my favourite out of the four -
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A friendly rivalry between two truck drivers is pushed to its limits in Henri Verneuil's leisurely chase movie Greed in the Sun. The action takes place in the Sahara desert and Verneuil makes excellent use of this setting as he captures the expansive scenery of never ending dunes and harsh arid landscapes. This terrain acts as the perfect backdrop to the increasingly heated relationship that develops between Rocco (Jean-Paul Belmondo) and Marec (Lino Ventura) when Rocco steals a brand new truck - complete with a valuable cargo - from their brutish boss. Marec is assigned to retrieve the truck and is joined by Steiner (Reginald Kernan) - who we see initiated into their company the previous night during an amusing bar crawl - as Steiner was due to set off on his maiden voyage in the truck that has since been stolen by Rocco. As these charismatic rogues trundle across the precarious dirt tracks they encounter a number of obstacles as the trucks get stuck in sand, run low on fuel, and suffer damages from unavoidable collisions. There are echoes of The Wages of Fear here but this is far from the thrilling intensity of Clouzot's classic; Greed in the Sun paves its own way as a light-hearted romp with a distinct lack of urgency and a knack for playful theatrics.

There is an intriguing premise built upon the greed and friendship that lies at the heart of this humorous morality tale but Greed in the Sun doesn't quite deliver on the engaging exposition that sets the tone for the first part of the film. The interplay between the two leads is where the film really shines, it is just unfortunate that the nature of the story means that their shared screen-time is limited. The unique setting and original storyline still mark Greed in the Sun as a compelling adventure but it could have benefited from a brisker pace and the ending - although attuned with the story thematically - feels lackluster when compared with that which precedes it.

2. Grzeli nateli dgeebi - I saw this a few year back and rated it a 6. To be honest I can't remember much of it and it hasn't stuck with me but I thought it was okay at the time.

3. Ayer Maravilla Fui - I wanted to like this a lot more than I did, the concept appeals to me but the slow pacing left me cold. I saw a Canadian horror film called Lifechanger (highly recommended) a couple of years back which deals with similar themes and I found this to be a much more effective exploration of the film's central conceit. I ended up giving this a 6/10.

4. S certy nejsou zerty - 5/10.
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This twee Czechoslovakian fantasy recounts a fairy tale that is well known amongst its native audience but is likely to be unfamiliar territory to most viewers. It involves a scheming woman, Dorota, who marrys a recently widowed miller in order to claim his property when he dies. Dorota purposefully gets rid of the miller's helping hands and forces him to work to his death but the miller's son, Petr, realises this and sets out to right his step-mother's evil deed. A chance encounter with one of the devil's minions enables Petr to act out his revenge and thus begins a whole host of playful shenanigans involving sorcery and witchcraft.

The mystical scenes that take place in the underworld offer a fascinating vision of hell, although these are few and far between, and not quite enough to distract from the tedium of the rest of the film, which becomes bogged down in romantic subplots and childish humour. There may be cultural aspects of the story that are lost in translation but that still (in my mind at least) doesn't explain why this mediocre film currently has such a high rating on IMDB - 8.3 at the time of writing. Its fantastical tale could well resonate with younger audiences although there is little here of interest for anyone over the age of twelve, apart from the inventive imagery used in its depiction of hell. This is a film that is clearly treasured by its home nation but one that sadly has little to offer for others (like myself) who usually enjoy exploring the forgotten delights of Czech cinema.

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Post by joachimt » March 18th, 2020, 5:30 pm

Image Grzeli nateli dgeebi: 1.917 (50-22)
Image Ayer Maravilla Fui: 2.167 (44-28)
Image Cent mille dollars au soleil: 2.375 (39-33)
Image S certy nejsou zerty: 3.542 (11-61)
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Post by joachimt » March 18th, 2020, 5:32 pm

24 voters so far. The lowest number of voters in a match this season was 28.
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Post by Armoreska » March 18th, 2020, 6:32 pm

Odd considering this is one strong group
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Post by zuma » March 18th, 2020, 6:42 pm

I agree. Likely the strongest group so far.

But none of these movies are official checks, which I think is important for a number of participants.

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Post by burneyfan » March 18th, 2020, 7:51 pm

joachimt wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 5:32 pm
24 voters so far. The lowest number of voters in a match this season was 28.
I'm trying to squeak in the last two candidates I need to watch today -- I just got an avalanche of unanticipated work that's slowed me down...

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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 19th, 2020, 8:16 am

1 hour 45 mins left... We could just prolong it for burneyfan and Fergenaprido.

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Post by sacmersault » March 19th, 2020, 9:10 am

No! Mexico should prevail! (Not that I voted based on my country; I just loved the film from Morelia FF)

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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 19th, 2020, 9:14 am

sacmersault wrote:
March 19th, 2020, 9:10 am
No! Mexico should prevail! (Not that I voted based on my country; I just loved the film from Morelia FF)
In the past we allowed late votes if that wouldn't affect the outcome. Anyway, Fergy and Burney are regulars so why not wait for an hour or two more. :shrug:

Also I think France couldn't make a comeback even theoretically.

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Post by Fergenaprido » March 19th, 2020, 9:15 am

1. Greed in the Sun - 7ish
2. In Bloom - 7ish
3. Give the Devil His Due - 7ish
4. Yesterday Wonder I Was - 5ish

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I watched the Mexican film first, and like other people have said, I liked the premise, but didn't care for the execution. It was painfully slow; I swear I could hear the director giving instructions to the actors... "stare at your hand... now caress your skin.... feel your breasts... get up slowly..." It was so slow that it became disengaging. I did like the cinematography (though they amounted to nothing more than pretty pictures you could hang in a gallery) and the cool matchstick figurines. The central relationship just felt like exploitative fake lesbian porn. Might end up hitting the dislike button for this one.

Next up was the Czech fantasy film. At first I was just curious since everyone was ranking it last, but it was a bunch of silly fun. As with most fairy tales, you kind of already know the plot and the ending (even if you're unfamiliar with the story), and this was no different. The grandmother mouthing off to the devil was great, and I enjoyed the two young male leads (in both their looks and their antics), and I can see why this is a favourite film among the Czechs.

Georgia was good. It moved along fairly well, but I just didn't connect well with the ending, and I was more interested in reading about the war on the periphery of the story than in diving into the stories of these characters. Still, the two lead actresses did a great job of carrying the entire film on their shoulders.

Finished off with France. Started it last night before bed, thinking I would watch half of it before I fell asleep, and then finish it today. Ending up staying awake to finish the film. It had a (mostly) nice mix of everything: a little romance, a chase scene (at times almost in slow motion), random yelling, comedic relief, beautiful scenery, Belmondo's chest, gay jokes, fictional country backstory replete with police corruption and fake identities. It all worked for me, somehow, until the end. That was entirely unsatisfying, even if I concede that it fit in with the absurdity of the rest of the film. Curious to see more Verneuil films now.

In the end, the French film was the best, despite it's shortcomings. Georgia & Czechia were two very different films, but I kind of feel the same about them. Giving the advantage to Georgia right now, but in a month maybe my opinion will switch. Only interesting thing about Mexico for me is that the young guy in the end is also in I Dream in Another Language, and his acting/character was the only one that interested me in this film.

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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 19th, 2020, 9:23 am

37 minutes left.
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Post by Mario Gaborović » March 19th, 2020, 2:07 pm

Deadline over.

Image Grzeli nateli dgeebi 52-23
Image Ayer Maravilla Fui 44-31
Image Cent mille dollars au soleil 42-33
Image S certy nejsou zerty 12-63

Georgia and Mexico proceed to the 2nd round. Congratulations to zzzorf and 72aicm. Also thanks to Mochard and mjf314 and to the 25 people who voted this match.
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Post by Armoreska » March 19th, 2020, 2:12 pm

burneyfan wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 7:51 pm
joachimt wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 5:32 pm
24 voters so far. The lowest number of voters in a match this season was 28.
I'm trying to squeak in the last two candidates I need to watch today -- I just got an avalanche of unanticipated work that's slowed me down...
:(
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Post by joachimt » March 19th, 2020, 7:01 pm

Mario Gaborović wrote:
March 19th, 2020, 2:07 pm
Deadline over.

Image Grzeli nateli dgeebi 52-23
Image Ayer Maravilla Fui 44-31
Image Cent mille dollars au soleil 42-33
Image S certy nejsou zerty 12-63

Georgia and Mexico proceed to the 2nd round. Congratulations to zzzorf and 72aicm. Also thanks to Mochard and mjf314 and to the 25 people who voted this match.
Double check.
Image Grzeli nateli dgeebi: 1.92 (52-23)
Image Ayer Maravilla Fui: 2.24 (44-31)
Image Cent mille dollars au soleil: 2.32 (42-33)
Image S certy nejsou zerty: 3.52 (12-63)
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Only two votes difference between #2 and #3. I'm curious what burneyfan's vote would have been if she had made it. :o

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Post by joachimt » March 19th, 2020, 7:03 pm

Winners so far:

Position R1Average rankingMatchCountryManager
121AEstoniajvv
22.21AIranNathan Treadway
11.691BSenegalFergenaprido
22.5521BItalyhurluberlu
12.1791CRussiaGorro
22.3211CCubasacmersault
12.1881DTajikistanclemmetarey
22.2191DPortugalPgonzalez
11.921EGeorgiazzzorf
22.241EMexico72aicm


Three matches left in round 1.
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Post by 72aicm » March 19th, 2020, 7:18 pm

Do you have stats over who voted every round joachimt?

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Post by joachimt » March 19th, 2020, 7:28 pm

72aicm wrote:
March 19th, 2020, 7:18 pm
Do you have stats over who voted every round joachimt?
23 people

Mario Gaborović
72aicm
Cocoa
klaus78
jvv
zhangalan
hurluberlu
joachimt
Smoover
zuma
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filmbantha
Armoreska
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Post by joachimt » March 19th, 2020, 7:35 pm

Rest of the voters:

burneyfan (4)
Mate_cosido (4)
sacmersault (4)
tommy_leazaq (4)
Mochard (3)
Traveller (3)
blocho (2)
cayado-coro (2)
maxwelldeux (2)
Asberg (1)
Cinepolis (1)
Lilarcor (1)
Pgonzalez (1)
pitchorneirda (1)
RogerTheMovieManiac88 (1)
tarr (1)
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Post by 72aicm » March 19th, 2020, 8:09 pm

joachimt wrote:
March 19th, 2020, 7:28 pm
23 people
Cheers. :thumbsup:

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