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Post by St. Gloede » February 19th, 2020, 4:42 pm

My take on Fellini's decline, which I'm sure I have offered before (this discussion comes up often) is that:

1. He is "punished" for not being part of a broader living movement where he serves as an inspiration. If the surrealist movement (if it can be called as such) was still going strong, or if it comes back in flavour in the near future, he may make a comeback, but as Cinewest noted above, he is far more than a surrealist.

The term "Felliniesque" had a slight rejuvenation with Sorrentino's The Great Beauty, and as I pointed out above it coincides with his jump back in '14/'15, and if more artists/films got their inspiration from Fellini we may yet be talking about him as much as we ever were.

In many ways Fellini ended up as a man alone, a unique figure held up by textbooks, portraits and a slowly fading following. He plays too big a role in cinematic history to ever be washed away, but time is certainly playing a slight trick on him, and we can expect it to do the same with most major figures.

2. Italian Cinema has faded out of the conversation. Fellini would clearly top most polls for best Italian directors, but as Italian cinema continues to take up a very small part of the cinematic conversation at present, and by proxy, Fellini suffers. Just as with movements and tracing inspiration, exploring film countries is common, and as Italy is discussed slightly less it follows that Italian directors will likely be explored slightly less.

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Also: I did not see it raised this time, but as many have brought up before, the way he sexualizes women may get less of a positive response today than 50 years ago.

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Important: While we are discussing a slight decrease in stature it is important to note that it is small, and that this forum appears to be an outlier. It only seems like a major fall because he was (and often still is) considered among the 5-10 greatest legends of cinema. Even the question of top 5 and top 10 is a major one. What is strange here is that he is outside the top 50, and, while I have not properly checked, is likely to be by.passed by more than one other Italian director. Could it really just come down to a difference of a few lists and a few personal estimates? Quite possibly!

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When we actually think about what it is that makes a film Felliniesque (a term that can't really be applied to his pre-60s work) we are probably thinking of a flamboyant and irreverent take on society, blending high-level and usually crass/dark satirical critique with a type of childlike wonder. As a style this could in so many ways fit perfectly with today's world. It is strange that we don't see it translated into a modern setting?Or is his take just too specific and fetishized?

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Post by mathiasa » February 19th, 2020, 4:50 pm

Previously, I was mostly into Fellini's later, surrealist work. I just watched Fellini's Le notti di Cabiria and La strada the previous week and was very much impressed. He goes up in my list. This week I saw La Dolce Vita, with big expectations and sadly, they weren't met. Like 8 1/2 it was style over substance, but the style was great. Still, overall a letdown.

About his politics: I think it's rather obvious from the morales of his work in the 50s that he wasn't a leftist.
I wouldn't read too much into a director's membership book. Just because an Italian director was in the Communist Party doesn't mean he was a Commie. Visconti obviously wasn't one, even though he gets often mentioned as one. Phil Jutzi also was a member of the communist party, just to become a NSDAP member a few years later. I don't think director's are that much interested in politics in general but in getting their movies made, which is always a big challenge and huge achievement. I would be surprised if any one of them (and I don't mean only Italian directors) have even a basic grasp on what Marxism is about or could tell 10 authors mentioned in Das Kapital or how Marx answered De Tracy's invention of ideologism, etc. And to not get me wrong: it wouldn't be fair to expect that from them, they simply have other things to do.

Personally, I'm very interested in economics, in capitalism and communism, but it took me be years of studying to become knowledgeable in these fields and if I were healthy I'd invest many more years studying these topics.
If you study them seriously you simply don't have the time to make movies (other than a James Benning's movie). And if you make movies, you don't have the time to study politics and what belongs to it. And even if you did, what you'd tell the public might be very different from what you know to be true in your heart. Since being unpopular will be a hindrance to success, financing could get more difficult, moviegoers might shun you and critics might despise you. Just see how often Eastwood gets criticized for his, admittedly crazy, opinions. But if you have crazy opinions that are popular, you'll get along just fine.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 19th, 2020, 4:55 pm

Good post Gloede. The one disagreement I would have is with point #1 - surrealism is I think still a bit healthy as evinced especially by the career of David Lynch, but also to one extent or another Guy Maddin, Raoul Ruiz, Alejandro Jodorowsky and Jacques Rivette. Maybe Kusturica too though it's been quite a long time since I've seen anything of his; Wojciech Has, Vera Chytilova and a few others in Eastern Europe as well, working at the same time as Fellini. Latin American magical realism also has a lot to do with Fellini, or is analogous in some ways I should say (Borges, Marques, etc started their careers well before Fellini veered into surrealism - were they influences on him?) though it has transferred to cinema without a huge amount of success, apart from Jodorowsky and Ruiz. In any case it's not as if surrealism was ever a really huge part of cinema - even in the late 20s and early 30s it was only within the ghetto of experimental film, and only mostly in France, Belgium and the US that we see a lot of it. So I don't know that the world is any less tolerant of the surreal now than it was when Giulietta degli spiriti came out.

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Post by St. Gloede » February 19th, 2020, 5:14 pm

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February 19th, 2020, 4:38 pm
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A Hidden Life is my number 1 from 2019 so far, and I believe he will get a boost from it next year.

I was in the minority who loved his pursuit of away from narrative cinema and towards channeling his vision of cinema in the purest way possible, which lead us only progressively extreme journey where many fans left the building. After Song to Song (not his best film, but certainly the purest, most perfect expression of his style) he returns to narrative filmmaking, taking all he learnt with him, and I can see the love pouring in.

If you loved The New World and The Tree of Life you will most likely be blown away by A Hidden Life as well, go for it even if you wrote him off.

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Post by tobias » February 19th, 2020, 5:24 pm

@mathiasa - good post. I didn't know Jutzi switched over to the NSDAP like that. I think you can definitely see a discourse with communism in Visconti's work even though he may not have been one in the academic sense (who is?), that's a sharp distinction from Fellini where none of that is present.

Also I think it's definitely possible to make more informed films, though they don't necesarilly always fare well. Think of Alexander Kluge, Straub-Huilet, Jacques Rivette, Werner Herzog, Terrence Malick, Eric Rohmer, all of which are certainly knowledgeable in fields outside of filmmaking.

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Post by Obgeoff » February 19th, 2020, 5:32 pm

I also loved A Hidden Life although given St. Gloede's post the only moments it wasn't reaching perfection was when the narrative came to the fore.
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 19th, 2020, 5:38 pm

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Post by OldAle1 » February 19th, 2020, 5:40 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 5:14 pm


A Hidden Life is my number 1 from 2019 so far, and I believe he will get a boost from it next year.

I was in the minority who loved his pursuit of away from narrative cinema and towards channeling his vision of cinema in the purest way possible, which lead us only progressively extreme journey where many fans left the building. After Song to Song (not his best film, but certainly the purest, most perfect expression of his style) he returns to narrative filmmaking, taking all he learnt with him, and I can see the love pouring in.

If you loved The New World and The Tree of Life you will most likely be blown away by A Hidden Life as well, go for it even if you wrote him off.
I skipped Song to Song; I have not been one who has overall relished his more experimental phase and I really disliked Knight of Cups, but to be fair I probably would have seen STS had it played near me, or for any length of time in Madison. A Hidden Life got no wider a release and AFAIK I would have had to drive 2 hours each way to see it; almost did so but given the way this winter has gone and being away for a while around Christmas my schedule has been thrown off and getting to Chicago has been impossible. Too bad, I would have liked to see it on the big screen. My favorite Malick remains Badlands as it has since I first saw it in the 90s, though he's another guy I'd love to revisit chronologically. Some day.

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Post by allisoncm » February 19th, 2020, 5:54 pm

Cocoa wrote:
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I'm surprised Bong Joon Ho was so low last year.
Really liked Parasite and his other films. Added him to my list for next year.

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Post by St. Gloede » February 19th, 2020, 6:01 pm

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Good post Gloede. The one disagreement I would have is with point #1 - surrealism is I think still a bit healthy as evinced especially by the career of David Lynch, but also to one extent or another Guy Maddin, Raoul Ruiz, Alejandro Jodorowsky and Jacques Rivette. Maybe Kusturica too though it's been quite a long time since I've seen anything of his; Wojciech Has, Vera Chytilova and a few others in Eastern Europe as well, working at the same time as Fellini. Latin American magical realism also has a lot to do with Fellini, or is analogous in some ways I should say (Borges, Marques, etc started their careers well before Fellini veered into surrealism - were they influences on him?) though it has transferred to cinema without a huge amount of success, apart from Jodorowsky and Ruiz. In any case it's not as if surrealism was ever a really huge part of cinema - even in the late 20s and early 30s it was only within the ghetto of experimental film, and only mostly in France, Belgium and the US that we see a lot of it. So I don't know that the world is any less tolerant of the surreal now than it was when Giulietta degli spiriti came out.
Just to clarify: I am talking of the decline of surrealism as a recent phenomena. Lynch has been retired for well over a decade (with the exception of Twin Peaks) and both Rivette and Ruiz died a decade ago.

Jodorowsky is still going strong, as is Maddin (but with less reach, and he is more experimental) and of course we find younger directors who play with surrealism. The point isn't that people are hostile to surrealism, the point is that it has a smaller share of the conversation (just as Italy does) and that informs decisions. Lynch alone left a pretty big hole in the surrealist scene. 10-15 years ago you would here people on forum's talk surrealism non-stop, and while this is not quite the same crowd as FG and is anecdotal, it is still significant.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 19th, 2020, 6:09 pm

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Post by St. Gloede » February 19th, 2020, 6:12 pm

Obgeoff wrote:
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I also loved A Hidden Life although given St. Gloede's post the only moments it wasn't reaching perfection was when the narrative came to the fore.
True (and even some of the shots are just a little too, erm, Malick).

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 19th, 2020, 6:30 pm

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Post by mathiasa » February 19th, 2020, 6:51 pm

tobias wrote:
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@mathiasa - good post. I didn't know Jutzi switched over to the NSDAP like that. I think you can definitely see a discourse with communism in Visconti's work even though he may not have been one in the academic sense (who is?), that's a sharp distinction from Fellini where none of that is present.
There were actually quite few such conversions as some communist part members preferred national socialism over democracy and it looked like the NSDAP was the future. But with Jutzi the conversion wasn't for opportunistic political reasons, I think. He left the KPD because he faced troubles making his movies and when the nazis came along, I guess he simply saw a good career opportunity. I don't think he supported the nowadays unpopular nazi theories.
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February 19th, 2020, 5:24 pm
Also I think it's definitely possible to make more informed films, though they don't necesarilly always fare well. Think of Alexander Kluge, Straub-Huilet, Jacques Rivette, Werner Herzog, Terrence Malick, Eric Rohmer, all of which are certainly knowledgeable in fields outside of filmmaking.
Good list. Yes, definitely. And Herzog explicitly urges aspiring directors to read as much as possible. He has even a reading list in his film class, with books going back to the Romans. He impressed me much with his understanding in "Encounters at the end of world", where he recognizes the complexity of a one-cell organism. He seems to know more about intelligence than a lot of so called AI experts. Alexander Kluge is extremely knowledgeable, almost to the point of absurdity. I have much respect for him in general, I encountered him in underground techno productions, literature talk shows and in satire tv-shows with Helge Schneider. But I haven't seen enough feature movies to judge if those informed films fare well. The Straub-Huilet stuff does not work for me, though I respect their knowledge about dramas and stuff. Jacques Rivette is a director I want to explore soon.
I'd just counter that the sciences behind politics are rather dry, very abstract and, to most people, very boring or even revolting (as it questions already formed world views). So I don't see directors putting serious time into studying this.

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Amidst the French purge and all, here we have two French stalwarts hold their forts. And Impressively, Truffaut doing it for second year in a row

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Post by tommy_leazaq » February 19th, 2020, 7:00 pm

Wow, the jumps of contemporary English language directors like Cameron, Jackson, Aronofsky are pretty impressive. Guess its safe to assume that Nolan has finally cracked the top 10, and wouldn't surprise if he topples Kubrick in the process and goes all the way.. :P

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Post by OldAle1 » February 19th, 2020, 7:09 pm

tommy_leazaq wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 7:00 pm
Wow, the jumps of contemporary English language directors like Cameron, Jackson, Aronofsky are pretty impressive. Guess its safe to assume that Nolan has finally cracked the top 10, and wouldn't surprise if he topples Kubrick in the process and goes all the way.. :P
Anybody who didn't vote for NOLAN at #1, QT at #2 and the Coens at #3 obviously hates cinema, guns, America, Jesus, and Trump, which are all the same thing.

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Post by St. Gloede » February 19th, 2020, 7:36 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 7:09 pm
tommy_leazaq wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 7:00 pm
Wow, the jumps of contemporary English language directors like Cameron, Jackson, Aronofsky are pretty impressive. Guess its safe to assume that Nolan has finally cracked the top 10, and wouldn't surprise if he topples Kubrick in the process and goes all the way.. :P
Anybody who didn't vote for NOLAN at #1, QT at #2 and the Coens at #3 obviously hates cinema, guns, America, Jesus, and Trump, which are all the same thing.
No no no:

3. Ridley Scott
2. James Cameron
1. Michael Bay

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Post by zuma » February 19th, 2020, 7:54 pm

tommy_leazaq wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 6:53 pm
Amidst the French purge and all, here we have two French stalwarts hold their forts. And Impressively, Truffaut doing it for second year in a row
Resnais held his own, but I voted for the first time this year and I had him ranked the highest.

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 19th, 2020, 8:30 pm

#46 (⇧3, #49) Frank Capra (ICM) Points: 169.14 (28 Votes)
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 19th, 2020, 8:50 pm

#45 (⇩1, #44) Kenji Mizoguchi (ICM) Points: 170.89 (25 Votes)
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 19th, 2020, 9:10 pm

#44 (⇩7, #37) Michael Powell (ICM) Points: 172.39 (35 Votes)
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Post by tobias » February 19th, 2020, 9:12 pm

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 7:51 pm
#48 (⇧13, #61) Christopher Nolan (ICM) Points: 165.81 (24 Votes)
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Just as you speak of the devil ;)

I'm actually surprised this is only his 3rd best finish in this poll ever.

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Post by tobias » February 19th, 2020, 9:13 pm

Renoir -12 now that kind of hurts.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 19th, 2020, 9:27 pm

tobias wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 9:12 pm

NOLAN

Just as you speak of the devil ;)

I'm actually surprised this is only his 3rd best finish in this poll ever.
I'm guessing he's either my lowest-average-rated or second lowest on this poll - Danny Boyle would be the other; unless John Hughes (shudder) makes it, in the top 50 no less, or I missed him. Boyle's the one I'm most surprised to see on the list at all, didn't realize he had many fans here.

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Post by St. Gloede » February 19th, 2020, 9:29 pm

tobias wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 9:12 pm
PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 7:51 pm
#48 (⇧13, #61) Christopher Nolan (ICM) Points: 165.81 (24 Votes)
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Just as you speak of the devil ;)

I'm actually surprised this is only his 3rd best finish in this poll ever.
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 19th, 2020, 9:31 pm

#43 (⇩25, #18) Michelangelo Antonioni (ICM) Points: 180.17 (33 Votes)
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Post by Gershwin » February 19th, 2020, 9:45 pm

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 9:31 pm
#43 (⇩25, #18) Michelangelo Antonioni (ICM) Points: 180.17 (33 Votes)
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Post by St. Gloede » February 19th, 2020, 9:51 pm

Antonioni I dropped 25 spots and still crushed Fellini ...

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 19th, 2020, 9:54 pm

#42 (⇩19, #23) Jean-Luc Godard (ICM) Points: 181.78 (26 Votes)
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 19th, 2020, 10:12 pm

#41 (⇧5, #46) Michael Haneke (ICM) Points: 184.42 (28 Votes)
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Post by allisoncm » February 19th, 2020, 11:19 pm

Obgeoff wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 10:06 am
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tommy_leazaq (165)
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tommy_leazaq (169)
joachimt (170)
Gordon_Gekko (265)

Ivan0716 and Gershwin were the high level backers she lost (and she gained myself). Some downgrading from mathiasa and connordenney. Otherwise, she gained an additional vote so not quite sure how she dropped 9 places.
Even though I am the voter who placed her highest on their list, I still could have moved her up a few spots on my list. I'll have to redo my whole list soon. I haven't changed my top favorite directors in some time.

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Post by Coryn » February 19th, 2020, 11:31 pm

Haneke on 41. Next year back in the thirties let's hope.
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Post by AB537 » February 19th, 2020, 11:32 pm

zuma wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 7:54 pm
tommy_leazaq wrote:
February 19th, 2020, 6:53 pm
Amidst the French purge and all, here we have two French stalwarts hold their forts. And Impressively, Truffaut doing it for second year in a row
Resnais held his own, but I voted for the first time this year and I had him ranked the highest.
Unlike, it seems, many of the new voters, I gave more and better positions to French directors than I would have a year ago. This is largely the result of several retrospectives of French directors in Toronto over the last year: Claire Denis, Resnais, Renoir and New Wave Godard. I was able to see at least 3 films from each director for the first time, and generally this was a blend of major and "lesser" films. New highlights included Chocolat from Denis, Wild Grass from Resnais, Grand Illusion and the Crime of Monsieur Lange from Renoir, and Alphaville from Godard. All four directors are higher on my list this year than they would have been last year had I voted, and I hadn't previously seen enough Denis to rank her at all. Clouzot and Melville are the top two French directors on my ballot, and I've seen additional films from both in the last year which boosted their rankings too.

As an aside, Antonioni's big drop is most unfortunate.

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