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Re: iCM Favorite Underrated Movies; Results

#81

Post by Lonewolf2003 » January 7th, 2020, 5:08 pm

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#27 Sleeping Beauty (Julia Leigh, 2011), 314.08 points, 5 votes, 2443 checks, official lists: 0, IMDb rating: 5.3 :imdb:
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#26 It Follows (David Robert Mitchell, 2014), 324.27 points, 4 votes, 8782 checks, official lists: 3, IMDb rating: 6.8 :imdb:
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#25 Meek's Cutoff (Kelly Reichardt, 2010), 324.33 points, 6 votes, 1755 checks, official lists: 2, IMDb rating: 6.5 :imdb:
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#82

Post by Onderhond » January 7th, 2020, 5:10 pm

joachimt wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 4:49 pm
Imagine that Onderhond was the first to post a list and the rest only used sol's method. :o
That would be an awesome top 2.

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#83

Post by Lakigigar » January 7th, 2020, 5:32 pm

This list truly has some good movies in it. They're all underrated on IMDb, yes. It doesn't mean they're masterpieces, but they're underrated. Twilight shouldn't have a rating of 5,0 so it belongs to that list. Does that mean it belongs in the top 1000 of ICM. No obviously not. Although if i would have to make a top 250 from scratch now, it would make it, probably just barely, but it would make the list. Than again, i have only seen 850 movies, so as usual i'll only send a top 100, at most a top 150 in for ICM Favourite movies in march. Will see it and depends on how much good movies i see.

The Guest, It Follows, Enemy all great additions. And probably a lot to discover too.

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#84

Post by albajos » January 7th, 2020, 5:45 pm

Lakigigar wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 5:32 pm
Twilight shouldn't have a rating of 5,0
That is correct. It should have a rating of 2.0

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#85

Post by Lakigigar » January 7th, 2020, 5:50 pm

albajos wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 5:45 pm
Lakigigar wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 5:32 pm
Twilight shouldn't have a rating of 5,0
That is correct. It should have a rating of 2.0
Well at least some people agree with me.

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#86

Post by OldAle1 » January 7th, 2020, 5:50 pm

albajos wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 5:45 pm
Lakigigar wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 5:32 pm
Twilight shouldn't have a rating of 5,0
That is correct. It should have a rating of 2.0
That seems about right. Maybe 3. But I'm not at all surprised it's rated 5, and actually a bit surprised it isn't rated higher, but with the primary demographic represented for the site as a whole being males 10-30, that's what you get, the teen fan girls get drowned out. Sometimes I wonder what the T250 would look like if it really reflected the entire worldwide movie-watching public; sadly I can't say that I honestly think it would be any more interesting, and it might even be worse.

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#87

Post by Lakigigar » January 7th, 2020, 5:54 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 5:50 pm
albajos wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 5:45 pm
Lakigigar wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 5:32 pm
Twilight shouldn't have a rating of 5,0
That is correct. It should have a rating of 2.0
That seems about right. Maybe 3. But I'm not at all surprised it's rated 5, and actually a bit surprised it isn't rated higher, but with the primary demographic represented for the site as a whole being males 10-30, that's what you get, the teen fan girls get drowned out. Sometimes I wonder what the T250 would look like if it really reflected the entire worldwide movie-watching public; sadly I can't say that I honestly think it would be any more interesting, and it might even be worse.
I do that too, but the IMDb top 250 right now is too dominated by what males of 10-30 like. Twilight just get all that hate, and i think it's unwarranted

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#88

Post by Lonewolf2003 » January 7th, 2020, 6:04 pm

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#24 Knight of Cups (Terrence Malick, 2015), 328.39 points, 4 votes, 1306 checks, official lists: 0, IMDb rating: 5.7 :imdb:
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#23 Jauja (Lisandro Alonso, 2014), 335.22 points, 5 votes, 535 checks, official lists: 2, IMDb rating: 6.4 :imdb:
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#22 Flirting with Disaster (David O. Russell, 1996), 335.4 points, 5 votes, 1061 checks, official lists: 1, IMDb rating: 6.7 :imdb:
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Post by matthewscott8 » January 7th, 2020, 6:21 pm

Again since I last posted many more results which I loved but didnt vote for. Jauja is one of the best films I've ever seen but IMDb rating is too high for me to consider underrated.

Think it would be better to have a first stage where ballots were created and then we all vote 1-10 on the films on the ballot.

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#90

Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » January 7th, 2020, 6:24 pm

Surprised that 'Jauja' has such a low rating, to be honest. That's one that I have been meaning to watch for the last couple of years. Nice addition to this list!
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#91

Post by matthewscott8 » January 7th, 2020, 6:29 pm

Waiting for This World Then The Fireworks :woot: the mafia is strong in this one :D

Whilst somewhat dissatisfied with methodology here as I would have voted for many of these films if I'd considered them eligible, I do admit to be extremely happy at reading the results. There are some corkers here, albeit not many I didnt already know about. I feel like I'm a paisan for once.

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#92

Post by matthewscott8 » January 7th, 2020, 6:34 pm

I'm gonna cry when I see Showgirls at #1. It's a good film but it's no Citizen Kane...

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#93

Post by Lakigigar » January 7th, 2020, 6:38 pm

The Tree of Life is probably #1

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Post by OldAle1 » January 7th, 2020, 6:40 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:34 pm
I'm gonna cry when I see Showgirls at #1. It's a good film but it's no Citizen Kane...
I don't think it'll be #1. Top 10 probably. Here's my predix for 1-2
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2. The Neon Demon
which will be my least-favorite top 2 finish by an enormous margin for the polls I've participated in.

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Post by Carmel1379 » January 7th, 2020, 6:54 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:29 pm
Waiting for This World Then The Fireworks :woot: the mafia is strong in this one :D

Whilst somewhat dissatisfied with methodology here as I would have voted for many of these films if I'd considered them eligible, I do admit to be extremely happy at reading the results. There are some corkers here, albeit not many I didnt already know about. I feel like I'm a paisan for once.
I'm really sorry to disappoint Matt, but it's not on my (or PdA's) list :(

For me underseen films cannot by definition be underrated, so I excluded everything below a certain user ratings count threshold. It's on the <400 list though; the Fireworks mafia will never die 🎆
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#96

Post by Lonewolf2003 » January 7th, 2020, 7:09 pm

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#21 The Shooting (Monte Hellman, 1966), 343.48 points, 6 votes, 845 checks, official lists: 4, IMDb rating: 6.6 :imdb:
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#20 Antichrist (Lars von Trier, 2009), 343.88 points, 4 votes, 12176 checks, official lists: 6, IMDb rating: 6.6 :imdb:
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#19 Femme Fatale (Brian De Palma, 2002), 352.35 points, 6 votes, 3869 checks, official lists: 4, IMDb rating: 6.2 :imdb:
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#97

Post by Lonewolf2003 » January 7th, 2020, 7:11 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:34 pm
I'm gonna cry when I see Showgirls at #1. It's a good film but it's no Citizen Kane...
I don't think anybody is claiming the #1 of this poll is the best movie evah. Just that it's the most underrated one.

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#98

Post by Lakigigar » January 7th, 2020, 7:12 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:40 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:34 pm
I'm gonna cry when I see Showgirls at #1. It's a good film but it's no Citizen Kane...
I don't think it'll be #1. Top 10 probably. Here's my predix for 1-2
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1. Spring Breakers
2. The Neon Demon
which will be my least-favorite top 2 finish by an enormous margin for the polls I've participated in.
Well at contrary, it would be my most favorite top 2 finish by an enormous margin for the polls i've participated in

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Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » January 7th, 2020, 7:34 pm

I vacillated on including 'The Shooting' and ended up leaving it off my ballot as I think 6.6 is a solid enough rating for a film I gave an 8/10 rating. Pleasing to see it show up and with rather a wonderful screenshot as well.

'Femme Fatale' is a film I've been relatively interested in revisiting for some time. I remember watching it fairly shortly after it came out as a 15 or 16 year old and thinking it was fairly vacuous and ostentatiously sordid. It might do more for me nowadays, though.
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » January 7th, 2020, 8:03 pm

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#18 The Addiction (Abel Ferrara, 1995), 358.24 points, 6 votes, 1293 checks, official lists: 4, IMDb rating: 6.4 :imdb:
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#17 Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974), 360.74 points, 5 votes, 681 checks, official lists: 1, IMDb rating: 6.5 :imdb:
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#101

Post by albajos » January 7th, 2020, 8:06 pm

It has 6666 votes.

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Post by Carmel1379 » January 7th, 2020, 8:33 pm

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 8:03 pm
#17 Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974)
:facepalm: This would've got at least a Top 5 from me

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Over the vast abrupt, ere he arrive
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#103

Post by Lonewolf2003 » January 7th, 2020, 9:00 pm

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#16 eXistenZ (David Cronenberg, 1999), 367.23 points, 6 votes, 8535 checks, official lists: 2, IMDb rating: 6.8 :imdb:
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Jimi Antiloop (#36)
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#15 The Bling Ring (Sofia Coppola, 2013), 415.79 points, 5 votes, 5858 checks, official lists: 0, IMDb rating: 5.6 :imdb:
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#104

Post by blocho » January 7th, 2020, 9:21 pm

There's not much overlap between lists. For example, the 50th movie in this poll had 4 voters out of 46 total lists (8.7%), while the 50th movie in the 500<400 poll had 22 voters out of 118 total lists (18.6%)

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#105

Post by Onderhond » January 7th, 2020, 9:34 pm

If votes were DNA ...

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#14 Birth (Jonathan Glazer, 2004), 419.02 points, 6 votes, 2216 checks, official lists: 2, IMDb rating: 6.1 :imdb:
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#13 The Forbidden Room (Evan Johnson, Guy Maddin, 2015), 431.74 points, 7 votes, 605 checks, official lists: 3, IMDb rating: 6.1 :imdb:
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#107

Post by matthewscott8 » January 7th, 2020, 10:17 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:40 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:34 pm
I'm gonna cry when I see Showgirls at #1. It's a good film but it's no Citizen Kane...
I don't think it'll be #1. Top 10 probably. Here's my predix for 1-2
SpoilerShow
1. Spring Breakers
2. The Neon Demon
which will be my least-favorite top 2 finish by an enormous margin for the polls I've participated in.
Haha well similarly to Lak, that would be the best top 2 for any poll I've been in!!!!!!! Adore both of those. Neon Demon I didn't vote for because IMDb rating was too high for my criteria. Breakers is right in the zone at 5.3 though.

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Post by maxwelldeux » January 7th, 2020, 10:42 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 10:17 pm
OldAle1 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:40 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:34 pm
I'm gonna cry when I see Showgirls at #1. It's a good film but it's no Citizen Kane...
I don't think it'll be #1. Top 10 probably. Here's my predix for 1-2
SpoilerShow
1. Spring Breakers
2. The Neon Demon
which will be my least-favorite top 2 finish by an enormous margin for the polls I've participated in.
Haha well similarly to Lak, that would be the best top 2 for any poll I've been in!!!!!!! Adore both of those. Neon Demon I didn't vote for because IMDb rating was too high for my criteria. Breakers is right in the zone at 5.3 though.
I'm still holding out hope for the cinematic masterpiece Movie 43. :run:

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#109

Post by Lonewolf2003 » January 7th, 2020, 10:47 pm

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#12 Ci ke Nie Yin Niang [The Assassin] (Hsiao-Hsien Hou, 2015), 434.12 points, 7 votes, 1389 checks, official lists: 2, IMDb rating: 6.3 :imdb:
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#11 The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans [Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans] (Werner Herzog, 2009), 437.36 points, 7 votes, 6870 checks, official lists: 3, IMDb rating: 6.6 :imdb:
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#110

Post by Lonewolf2003 » January 7th, 2020, 10:47 pm

Top 10 will be revealed tomorrow.

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Post by blocho » January 7th, 2020, 11:51 pm

The whole list should probably be Nic Cage movies.

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Post by mightysparks » January 8th, 2020, 12:31 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 10:42 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 10:17 pm
OldAle1 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:40 pm


I don't think it'll be #1. Top 10 probably. Here's my predix for 1-2
SpoilerShow
1. Spring Breakers
2. The Neon Demon
which will be my least-favorite top 2 finish by an enormous margin for the polls I've participated in.
Haha well similarly to Lak, that would be the best top 2 for any poll I've been in!!!!!!! Adore both of those. Neon Demon I didn't vote for because IMDb rating was too high for my criteria. Breakers is right in the zone at 5.3 though.
I'm still holding out hope for the cinematic masterpiece Movie 43. :run:
No :angry:
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » January 8th, 2020, 1:52 am

Quite an eclectic list. I expected the weird films I haven't heard of, the guilty pleasures, and the divisive films that fly under the radar, but I was surprised by films like The Assassin which in my mind is quite well regarded(though the numbers say different).

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Post by Cocoa » January 8th, 2020, 2:01 am

Liquid Sky (l) A movie with a message that androgyny is beautiful. :wub:

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Post by maxwelldeux » January 8th, 2020, 6:56 am

mightysparks wrote:
January 8th, 2020, 12:31 am
maxwelldeux wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 10:42 pm
I'm still holding out hope for the cinematic masterpiece Movie 43. :run:
No :angry:
Well, in preparation for the obvious #1 choice to appear at the top of the list, I did rewatch Movie 43 tonight. Brilliant piece of cinema, clearly superior to schlocky "classics" like 2001: A Space Odyssey or The Godfather, this film poses such challenging questions to the non-sober as "how far can you take a game of 'truth or dare'?" or "should you stick your dick in an iPod?". An underappreciated gem, this film transcends description, and, much like true love, cannot be described, merely experienced. :guns:

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Post by zzzorf » January 8th, 2020, 7:57 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 10:42 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 10:17 pm
OldAle1 wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 6:40 pm


I don't think it'll be #1. Top 10 probably. Here's my predix for 1-2
SpoilerShow
1. Spring Breakers
2. The Neon Demon
which will be my least-favorite top 2 finish by an enormous margin for the polls I've participated in.
Haha well similarly to Lak, that would be the best top 2 for any poll I've been in!!!!!!! Adore both of those. Neon Demon I didn't vote for because IMDb rating was too high for my criteria. Breakers is right in the zone at 5.3 though.
I'm still holding out hope for the cinematic masterpiece Movie 43. :run:
The 2nd best movie about Chloé Grace Moretz getting her period. tehe

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Post by cinewest » January 8th, 2020, 8:35 am

Finally, the top 25 is yielding a better ratio of interesting "underrated" films, but the majority of the films on this list are "guilty pleasures" more than underrated.

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Post by Fergenaprido » January 8th, 2020, 8:46 am

cinewest wrote:
January 8th, 2020, 8:35 am
Finally, the top 25 is yielding a better ratio of interesting "underrated" films, but the majority of the films on this list are "guilty pleasures" more than underrated.
Enemy (#47) is the highest ranked film on this list so far that I've voted for, and I feel no guilt about liking that movie :folded: :D

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Post by Onderhond » January 8th, 2020, 8:48 am

The Top 25 so far has been disappointing. It's reverting to basic arthouse cinema that's already criminally overrepresented in official lists. Films like The Assassin deserve their trashing, for the incredible waste of potential that they are.

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#120

Post by Lonewolf2003 » January 8th, 2020, 9:09 am

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#10 Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014), 457.68 points, 6 votes, 6378 checks, official lists: 4, IMDb rating: 6.7 :imdb:
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