iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

[joachimt]

Welcome to the schedule of iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1.
If you don't know what this is, you can find everything about the World Cup here.

Rules in the group phase:
- You must watch all 4 films of a match before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 4 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)
- The top 2 of each group will proceed to the next round.
The winners of the match will be decided using these rules:

• Ranked by highest average ranking (= lowest number).
• In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
• In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between three or four movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
• Still a tie? Fewest #4-votes determines the winner.
• Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #3 and #4).
• Same rules apply to determine second place, of course.

- Don't vote in this thread. Each match will have its own thread according to the schedule.

ICM-list of all movies in this World Cup

Round 1 scheduleShow

Group A: 2019-12-1 till 2019-12-29Show

Country	Original Title	English Title	Year	Manager	IMDB	ICM
Canada	Why Shoot the Teacher?		1977	sol	link	link
England	Kajaki		2014	filmbantha	link	link
Estonia	Risttuules	In the Crosswind	2014	jvv	link	link
Iran	Bashu, gharibeye koochak	Bashu, the Little Stranger	1989	Nathan Treadway	link	link

Group B: 2019-12-29 till 2020-1-26Show

Country	Original Title	English Title	Year	Manager	IMDB	ICM
Italy	Respiro		2002	hurluberlu	link	link
Senegal	Camp de Thiaroye	The Camp at Thiaroye	1988	Fergenaprido	link	link
Slovenia	Samorastniki	Wild Growth	1963	Mario Gaborović	link	link
Taiwan	Chun hua meng lu	A Drifting Life	1996	Mate_cosido	link	link

Group C: 2020-1-15 till 2020-2-12Show

Country	Original Title	English Title	Year	Manager	IMDB	ICM
Albania	Kompozim	Composition	1992	RogerTheMovieManiac88	link	link
Cuba	Madagascar		1995	sacmersault	link	link
Iceland	Englar alheimsins	Angels of the Universe	2000	Asberg	link	link
Russia	Dni zatmeniya	Days of Eclipse	1988	Gorro	link	link

Group D: 2020-2-2 till 2020-3-1Show

Country	Original Title	English Title	Year	Manager	IMDB	ICM
Australia	Last Cab to Darwin		2015	blocho	link	link
Hungary	Egy erkölcsös éjszaka	A Very Moral Night	1977	Ivan0716	link	link
Portugal	Os Verdes Anos	The Green Years	1963	Pgonzalez	link	link
Tajikistan	Luna Papa	Moon Father	1999	clemmetarey	link	link

Group E: 2020-2-19 till 2020-3-18Show

Country	Original Title	English Title	Year	Manager	IMDB	ICM
Czechia	S certy nejsou zerty	Give the Devil His Due	1985	mjf314	link	link
France	Cent mille dollars au soleil	Greed in the Sun	1964	Mochard	link	link
Georgia	Grzeli nateli dgeebi	In Bloom	2013	zzzorf	link	link
Mexico	Ayer Maravilla Fui	Yesterday Wonder I Was	2017	72aicm	link	link

Group F: 2020-3-8 till 2020-4-5Show

Country	Original Title	English Title	Year	Manager	IMDB	ICM
Brazil	A Alma do Osso	The Soul of the Bone	2004	beavis	link	link
Greece	I fotografia	The Photograph	1986	burneyfan	link	link
Japan	Tsigoineruwaizen	Zigeunerweisen	1980	Gordon_Gekko	link	link
Poland	Korczak		1990	sebby	link	link

Group G: 2020-3-25 till 2020-4-22Show

Country	Original Title	English Title	Year	Manager	IMDB	ICM
Germany	Jagdszenen aus Niederbayern	Hunting Scenes from Bavaria	1969	klaus78	link	link
Pakistan	Jago hua savera	The Day Shall Dawn	1959	zhangalan	link	link
Ukraine	Nezabyvayemoye	The Unforgettable	1967	Angel Glez	link	link
USA	Cockfighter		1974	monty	link	link

Group H: 2020-4-12 till 2020-5-10Show

Country	Original Title	English Title	Year	Manager	IMDB	ICM
China	Tian shu qi tan	Secrets of the Heavenly Book	1983	wasabi	link	link
India	Mahanagar	The Big City	1963	Ritesh	link	link
Spain	Mi tío Jacinto	Uncle Hyacynth	1956	PeacefulAnarchy	link	link
Sweden	Midvinterblot	The Sacrifice	1946	Lilarcor	link	link

[joachimt]

Stats:

18/32 are unofficial

Only two movies with more than 400 checks:
Cockfighter
Mahanagar

12 movies have less than 20 checks. Least checked has 1 check:
Kompozim
I had to add this one to IMDb.

Average checkcount is 110.

Longest movie is 157 minutes:
Camp de Thiaroye

There are two shorts:
Kompozim
Midvinterblot

[joachimt]

Decade breakdown:

[sebby]

Hoo boy, might as well give India a bye into round 2.

[beavis]

19/32 to see, including some I was already looking forward to very much
cool selections everyone!

[clemmetarey]

I've seen 3/32.
Only 2 films above 400 checks is very impressive, I'm glad to see managers went beyond the usual suspects for their respective countries.

[jvv]

I've only seen one (the one I nominated myself).

[72aicm]

10/32 seen here. Great selections guys and gals. And Peaceful went for Uncle Hyacynth, cool!

[zzzorf]

only two seen as i expected, mine and the movie I introduced Blocho to back in April in the Oceania challenge I hosted. So looking forward to this.

[zhangalan]

Interesting, I've only seen 8.
And Gosh, my country is competing with Germany and USA. I guess I can surrender now. Who can win over Trump and Merkel?

[filmbantha]

I've only seen 4 of the 32. A few of the picks are already on my watchlist but there are lots I haven't heard of before. Really looking forward to watching all of these films. Good luck everyone!

[Fergenaprido]

After some WC fatigue from season 3, I think I'm properly excited now.

Seen 2 (Senegal - my pick & Portugal -former FOTW)
Already had 5 watchlisted (Slovenia, Tajikistan, Pakistan, Ukraine, India)
Excited to see a few more that I had heard of but hadn't tracked down yet (Canada & Estonia)
The rest are all complete unknowns to me.

Which group do people think is the group of death/most even/most unpredictable?
A, D, and F are the ones I feel most unsure about.

[RogerTheMovieManiac88]

Interesting selections in the main. At least ten of these are films I'm highly looking forward to. I've only seen three of these so far - for two favourites and one dislike.

Good luck to all!

[Lilarcor]

Hoo boy, might as well give India a bye into round 2.

Yes, I'll have to vote against my own pick here, Mahanagar is a 10/10 for me personally.

I hope voters will enjoy the Swedish pic as something unusual at least.

Awesome that someone else went with a 'one-reeler' as well!

[Angel Glez]

Of course G is the group of death: Three notable choices against my girl (0 votes in BBC poll, an irrefutable proof that the movie is extraordinary).

Congratulations to Peaceful and Lilarcor for picking vintage cinema.

[blocho]

only two seen as i expected, mine and the movie I introduced Blocho to back in April in the Oceania challenge I hosted. So looking forward to this.

Tip of the hat to you.

I've also only seen two. And only heard of eight.

[Fergenaprido]

Stats:
Longest movie is 157 minutes:
Camp de Thiaroye

Just noticed this now, but the copy I have and watched is only 147 minutes.

Imdb says this:
Runtime 2 hr 27 min (147 min) (Netherlands)
2 hr 37 min (157 min) (USA)
2 hr 30 min (150 min) (Berlin) (West Germany)

Now I'm curious where those missing 10 minutes are (or if it's just an error for the US runtime).

[burneyfan]

Seen 10 of 32, all of them between extremely good and outstanding for me. I look forward to seeing the rest (and rewatching ten really good films)!

[maxwelldeux]

I have seen 0/32, which is why I was pushing for fewer films/match.

But, I'm glad the entire schedule is posted early and in advance, so I can start in prioritizing what to watch. Also, the Travel the World challenge next month will really help.

[sol]

Stats:
Longest movie is 157 minutes:
Camp de Thiaroye

Just noticed this now, but the copy I have and watched is only 147 minutes.

Imdb says this:
Runtime 2 hr 27 min (147 min) (Netherlands)
2 hr 37 min (157 min) (USA)
2 hr 30 min (150 min) (Berlin) (West Germany)

Now I'm curious where those missing 10 minutes are (or if it's just an error for the US runtime).

Probably the difference between PAL vs NTSC - 25 vs 24 frames per second.

[Mochard]

I've only seen 3/32 but that's because I watched the 2 shorts earlier today and my own!

[Cocoa]

I've seen 3 before today and I watched three more once the schedule was released. Each film I watched today had moments that made me sleepy, so I think I will avoid trying to binge watch them all in a short time frame.

I'm a little disappointed that Mahanagar was chosen because Satyajit Ray has a bunch of great films under 400 checks. Although I still enjoyed Mahanagar so the other films in that group have to be great in order for me not to rank Mahanagar #1 or #2.

[joachimt]

I have seen 0/32, which is why I was pushing for fewer films/match.

But, I'm glad the entire schedule is posted early and in advance, so I can start in prioritizing what to watch. Also, the Travel the World challenge next month will really help.

Also, match 1A and 1B won't overlap because of Christmas, so we start a little bit slower than the rest of the matches where there is 1.5 weeks overlap.
The whole schedule of round 1 lasts 5.33 months, so you have an average of 6 movies to watch each month to fully participate.

[tommy_leazaq]

Only seen Mahanagar..

[cayado-coro]

Uhmmm, several movies that I don't know or I haven't even heard of. I'll try to get some groups completed, but not all.

[joachimt]

Mario seems to be in a hurry. I just noticed you checked 8 titles from this season within two days.

[Mario Gaborović]

Mario seems to be in a hurry. I just noticed you checked 8 titles from this season within two days.

In case I end up being arrested or put to mental hospital, I have to check off everything on time so I won't lose the perfect participation.

[kingink]

I just watched Midvinterblot and IMDB at the bottom of the page always recommends similar titles. This time for Midvinterblot the similar titles were Why Shoot the Teacher?, Respiro, Ayer Maravilla Fui , Risttuules , Luna Papa etc
wtf?
Is IMDB supporting our World cup?
I guess people have started rating them together so it triggered IMDB

[Mario Gaborović]

https://letterboxd.com/mariogaborovic/l ... -season-4/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls091190179/
https://mubi.com/lists/icm-forum-film-w ... p-season-4

[blocho]

I just watched Midvinterblot and IMDB at the bottom of the page always recommends similar titles. This time for Midvinterblot the similar titles were Why Shoot the Teacher?, Respiro, Ayer Maravilla Fui , Risttuules , Luna Papa etc
wtf?
Is IMDB supporting our World cup?
I guess people have started rating them together so it triggered IMDB

That does typically happen with world cup movies because they involve movies very few people are searching for on imdb.

[Armoreska]

Groups of death of a top country: E, F & H (all seem to have 3 apiece)
D if we count Portugal who's doomed as always (or not?).

Actually: A,B and potentially C as well.