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iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 11:44 am
by joachimt
Welcome to the schedule of iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1.
If you don't know what this is, you can find everything about the World Cup here.

Rules in the group phase:
- You must watch all 4 films of a match before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 4 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)
- The top 2 of each group will proceed to the next round.
The winners of the match will be decided using these rules:
  • Ranked by highest average ranking (= lowest number).
  • In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
  • In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between three or four movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
  • Still a tie? Fewest #4-votes determines the winner.
  • Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #3 and #4).
  • Same rules apply to determine second place, of course.
- Don't vote in this thread. Each match will have its own thread according to the schedule.

ICM-list of all movies in this World Cup

Round 1 scheduleShow
Group A: 2019-12-1 till 2019-12-29Show
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
CanadaWhy Shoot the Teacher?1977sollinklink
EnglandKajaki2014filmbanthalinklink
EstoniaRisttuulesIn the Crosswind2014jvvlinklink
IranBashu, gharibeye koochakBashu, the Little Stranger1989Nathan Treadwaylinklink
Group B: 2019-12-29 till 2020-1-26Show
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
ItalyRespiro2002hurluberlulinklink
SenegalCamp de ThiaroyeThe Camp at Thiaroye1988Fergenapridolinklink
SloveniaSamorastnikiWild Growth1963Mario Gaborovićlinklink
TaiwanChun hua meng luA Drifting Life1996Mate_cosidolinklink
Group C: 2020-1-15 till 2020-2-12Show
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
AlbaniaKompozimComposition1992RogerTheMovieManiac88linklink
CubaMadagascar1995sacmersaultlinklink
IcelandEnglar alheimsinsAngels of the Universe2000Asberglinklink
RussiaDni zatmeniyaDays of Eclipse1988Gorrolinklink
Group D: 2020-2-2 till 2020-3-1Show
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
AustraliaLast Cab to Darwin2015blocholinklink
HungaryEgy erkölcsös éjszakaA Very Moral Night1977Ivan0716linklink
PortugalOs Verdes AnosThe Green Years1963Pgonzalezlinklink
TajikistanLuna PapaMoon Father1999clemmetareylinklink
Group E: 2020-2-19 till 2020-3-18Show
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
CzechiaS certy nejsou zertyGive the Devil His Due1985mjf314linklink
FranceCent mille dollars au soleilGreed in the Sun1964Mochardlinklink
GeorgiaGrzeli nateli dgeebiIn Bloom2013zzzorflinklink
MexicoAyer Maravilla FuiYesterday Wonder I Was201772aicmlinklink
Group F: 2020-3-8 till 2020-4-5Show
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
BrazilA Alma do OssoThe Soul of the Bone2004beavislinklink
GreeceI fotografiaThe Photograph1986burneyfanlinklink
JapanTsigoineruwaizenZigeunerweisen1980Gordon_Gekkolinklink
PolandKorczak1990sebbylinklink
Group G: 2020-3-25 till 2020-4-22Show
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
GermanyJagdszenen aus NiederbayernHunting Scenes from Bavaria1969klaus78linklink
PakistanJago hua saveraThe Day Shall Dawn1959zhangalanlinklink
UkraineNezabyvayemoyeThe Unforgettable1967Angel Glezlinklink
USACockfighter1974montylinklink
Group H: 2020-4-12 till 2020-5-10Show
CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
ChinaTian shu qi tanSecrets of the Heavenly Book1983wasabilinklink
IndiaMahanagarThe Big City1963Riteshlinklink
SpainMi tío JacintoUncle Hyacynth1956PeacefulAnarchylinklink
SwedenMidvinterblotThe Sacrifice1946Lilarcorlinklink

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 11:53 am
by joachimt
Stats:

18/32 are unofficial

Only two movies with more than 400 checks:
Cockfighter
Mahanagar

12 movies have less than 20 checks. Least checked has 1 check:
Kompozim
I had to add this one to IMDb.

Average checkcount is 110.

Longest movie is 157 minutes:
Camp de Thiaroye

There are two shorts:
Kompozim
Midvinterblot

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 11:59 am
by joachimt
Decade breakdown:

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Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 12:22 pm
by sebby
Hoo boy, might as well give India a bye into round 2.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 12:23 pm
by beavis
19/32 to see, including some I was already looking forward to very much
cool selections everyone!

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 12:30 pm
by clemmetarey
I've seen 3/32.
Only 2 films above 400 checks is very impressive, I'm glad to see managers went beyond the usual suspects for their respective countries. :cheers:

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 12:39 pm
by jvv
I've only seen one (the one I nominated myself). :D

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 12:47 pm
by 72aicm
10/32 seen here. Great selections guys and gals. And Peaceful went for Uncle Hyacynth, cool! :thumbsup:

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 12:52 pm
by zzzorf
only two seen as i expected, mine and the movie I introduced Blocho to back in April in the Oceania challenge I hosted. So looking forward to this.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 1:08 pm
by zhangalan
Interesting, I've only seen 8.
And Gosh, my country is competing with Germany and USA. I guess I can surrender now. Who can win over Trump and Merkel?

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 1:17 pm
by filmbantha
I've only seen 4 of the 32. A few of the picks are already on my watchlist but there are lots I haven't heard of before. Really looking forward to watching all of these films. Good luck everyone!

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 1:38 pm
by Fergenaprido
After some WC fatigue from season 3, I think I'm properly excited now.

Seen 2 (Senegal - my pick & Portugal -former FOTW)
Already had 5 watchlisted (Slovenia, Tajikistan, Pakistan, Ukraine, India)
Excited to see a few more that I had heard of but hadn't tracked down yet (Canada & Estonia)
The rest are all complete unknowns to me.

Which group do people think is the group of death/most even/most unpredictable?
A, D, and F are the ones I feel most unsure about.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 1:41 pm
by RogerTheMovieManiac88
Interesting selections in the main. At least ten of these are films I'm highly looking forward to. I've only seen three of these so far - for two favourites and one dislike.

Good luck to all!

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 2:55 pm
by Lilarcor
sebby wrote:
November 29th, 2019, 12:22 pm
Hoo boy, might as well give India a bye into round 2.
Yes, I'll have to vote against my own pick here, Mahanagar is a 10/10 for me personally.

I hope voters will enjoy the Swedish pic as something unusual at least. :D

Awesome that someone else went with a 'one-reeler' as well!

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 3:10 pm
by Angel Glez
Of course G is the group of death: Three notable choices against my girl (0 votes in BBC poll, an irrefutable proof that the movie is extraordinary). :P

Congratulations to Peaceful and Lilarcor for picking vintage cinema. :lol:

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 3:55 pm
by blocho
zzzorf wrote:
November 29th, 2019, 12:52 pm
only two seen as i expected, mine and the movie I introduced Blocho to back in April in the Oceania challenge I hosted. So looking forward to this.
Tip of the hat to you.

I've also only seen two. And only heard of eight.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 29th, 2019, 3:59 pm
by Fergenaprido
joachimt wrote:
November 29th, 2019, 11:53 am
Stats:
Longest movie is 157 minutes:
Camp de Thiaroye
Just noticed this now, but the copy I have and watched is only 147 minutes.

Imdb says this:
Runtime 2 hr 27 min (147 min) (Netherlands)
2 hr 37 min (157 min) (USA)
2 hr 30 min (150 min) (Berlin) (West Germany)

Now I'm curious where those missing 10 minutes are (or if it's just an error for the US runtime).

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 30th, 2019, 12:23 am
by burneyfan
Seen 10 of 32, all of them between extremely good and outstanding for me. I look forward to seeing the rest (and rewatching ten really good films)!

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 30th, 2019, 2:00 am
by maxwelldeux
I have seen 0/32, which is why I was pushing for fewer films/match.

But, I'm glad the entire schedule is posted early and in advance, so I can start in prioritizing what to watch. Also, the Travel the World challenge next month will really help.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 30th, 2019, 2:08 am
by sol
Fergenaprido wrote:
November 29th, 2019, 3:59 pm
joachimt wrote:
November 29th, 2019, 11:53 am
Stats:
Longest movie is 157 minutes:
Camp de Thiaroye
Just noticed this now, but the copy I have and watched is only 147 minutes.

Imdb says this:
Runtime 2 hr 27 min (147 min) (Netherlands)
2 hr 37 min (157 min) (USA)
2 hr 30 min (150 min) (Berlin) (West Germany)

Now I'm curious where those missing 10 minutes are (or if it's just an error for the US runtime).
Probably the difference between PAL vs NTSC - 25 vs 24 frames per second.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 30th, 2019, 2:12 am
by Mochard
I've only seen 3/32 but that's because I watched the 2 shorts earlier today and my own!

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 30th, 2019, 3:17 am
by Cocoa
I've seen 3 before today and I watched three more once the schedule was released. Each film I watched today had moments that made me sleepy, so I think I will avoid trying to binge watch them all in a short time frame.

I'm a little disappointed that Mahanagar was chosen because Satyajit Ray has a bunch of great films under 400 checks. Although I still enjoyed Mahanagar so the other films in that group have to be great in order for me not to rank Mahanagar #1 or #2.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 30th, 2019, 6:40 am
by joachimt
maxwelldeux wrote:
November 30th, 2019, 2:00 am
I have seen 0/32, which is why I was pushing for fewer films/match.

But, I'm glad the entire schedule is posted early and in advance, so I can start in prioritizing what to watch. Also, the Travel the World challenge next month will really help.
Also, match 1A and 1B won't overlap because of Christmas, so we start a little bit slower than the rest of the matches where there is 1.5 weeks overlap.
The whole schedule of round 1 lasts 5.33 months, so you have an average of 6 movies to watch each month to fully participate.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 30th, 2019, 8:41 am
by tommy_leazaq
Only seen Mahanagar..

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: November 30th, 2019, 3:31 pm
by cayado-coro
Uhmmm, several movies that I don't know or I haven't even heard of. I'll try to get some groups completed, but not all.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: December 2nd, 2019, 2:18 pm
by joachimt
Mario seems to be in a hurry. I just noticed you checked 8 titles from this season within two days. :blink:

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: December 2nd, 2019, 2:34 pm
by Mario Gaborović
joachimt wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 2:18 pm
Mario seems to be in a hurry. I just noticed you checked 8 titles from this season within two days. :blink:
In case I end up being arrested or put to mental hospital, I have to check off everything on time so I won't lose the perfect participation.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: December 7th, 2019, 12:59 pm
by kingink
I just watched Midvinterblot and IMDB at the bottom of the page always recommends similar titles. This time for Midvinterblot the similar titles were Why Shoot the Teacher?, Respiro, Ayer Maravilla Fui , Risttuules , Luna Papa etc
wtf? :lol:
Is IMDB supporting our World cup? ;) :woot:
I guess people have started rating them together so it triggered IMDB

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: December 7th, 2019, 1:51 pm
by Mario Gaborović

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: December 7th, 2019, 3:44 pm
by blocho
kingink wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:59 pm
I just watched Midvinterblot and IMDB at the bottom of the page always recommends similar titles. This time for Midvinterblot the similar titles were Why Shoot the Teacher?, Respiro, Ayer Maravilla Fui , Risttuules , Luna Papa etc
wtf? :lol:
Is IMDB supporting our World cup? ;) :woot:
I guess people have started rating them together so it triggered IMDB
That does typically happen with world cup movies because they involve movies very few people are searching for on imdb.

Re: iCM Forum World Cup - Season 4 - Round 1 schedule

Posted: January 23rd, 2020, 1:48 pm
by Armoreska
Groups of death of a top country: E, F & H (all seem to have 3 apiece)
D if we count Portugal who's doomed as always (or not?).

Actually: A,B and potentially C as well.