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Year by Year Polls: 2007

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Year by Year Polls: 2007

#1

Post by flaiky » October 31st, 2019, 9:28 pm

Help us create a list of the best films from 2007!

Rules:

- Reply here with a list of titles you've seen from 2007, followed by a list of bare IMDb urls for the same films. The last bit is essential as it is how I gather and count the results.

- You can vote for a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 20 films.

- Your ballot can be either ranked, partially ranked, or unranked. If it's not fully ranked - please state that clearly.

- Feature films, documentaries, short films, TV movies and TV mini-series are all eligible, but not continuing TV series or individual TV episodes.

- We use IMDb dates for consistency, so a title should be listed on IMDb as 2007 to be eligible.

- You may update your ballot at any time before the poll closes (remember to also change your urls list!)

The scoring:

You may list choices in order of preference, in which case your top film will receive a number of points equal to the number of films in your list up to 20, with each next-ranked film receiving one fewer point; or in no order, in which case each film will receive the same number of points. So, for example, if you only vote for 5 ranked films, your top film will receive 5 points and your 5th-place film will receive 1 point. If you vote for 20 unranked films, each film will receive 10.5 points; if you vote for 5 unranked films, each film will receive 3 points, etc. Partially ranked ballots will use both of these systems.

Some resources:

2007 films you've rated on IMDb

2007 films sorted by most votes on IMDb

2007 films you've checked on ICM

2007 films you *haven't* checked on ICM

This poll will run for at least three weeks, probably closing on Friday 22 November.

The next poll will be for 1955, followed by 2019.
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Post by rnilsson19 » October 31st, 2019, 9:55 pm

1. Cleopatra (Júlio Bressane)
2. At Sea (Peter Hutton)
3. I'm Not There. (Todd Haynes)
4. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik)
5. Rehearsals for Retirement (Phil Solomon)
6. Last Days in a Lonely Place (Phil Solomon)
7. Light Is Waiting (Michael Robinson)
8. Zodiac (David Fincher)
9. Go Go Tales (Abel Ferrara)
10. Casting a Glance (James Benning)

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3142190/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3142204/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3134686/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443706/
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Post by Ivan0716 » October 31st, 2019, 9:56 pm

1. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson)
2. In the City of Sylvia (José Luis Guerin)
3. The Man From London (Béla Tarr)
4. You, The Living (Roy Andersson)
5. The Banishment (Andrey Zvyagintsev)
6. No Country for Old Men (Joel Coen, Ethan Coen)
7. Death at a Funeral (Frank Oz)
8. Lust, Caution (Ang Lee)
9. Cargo 200 (Alexey Balabanov)
10. Cleopatra (Júlio Bressane)
11. Timecrimes (Nacho Vigalondo)
12. My Blueberry Nights (Wong Kar-wai)
13. Go Go Tales (Abel Ferrara)
14. My Winnipeg (Guy Maddin)
15. Yella (Christian Petzold)
16. Eastern Promises (David Cronenberg)
17. The Unpolished (Pia Marais)
18. Protégé (Derek Yee)
19. Bording Gate (Olivier Assayas)
20. Import/Export (Ulrich Seidl)
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Post by Perception de Ambiguity » October 31st, 2019, 10:50 pm

1. Number One
2. Kappa no Kû to natsuyasumi / Summer Days with Coo
3. Pop Skull
4. Retour en Normandie / Back to Normandy
5. More Things That Happened
6. Flatland
7. Away (Peter Mettler) [not on IMDb]
8. Blade Runner: Deleted and Alternate Scenes
9. Le papier ne peut pas envelopper la braise / Paper Cannot Wrap Ember
10. 1000 Year Sleep
11. Li: The Patterns of Nature
12. Boat
13. Up the Yangtze
14. Immer nie am Meer / Forever Never Anywhere
15. Who by Water
16. Absurda
17. Tuolumne (Paul Clipson) [not on IMDb]
18. Spöksonaten
19. Pora umierac / Time to Die
20. Lynch
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21. Brando
22. Flatland: The Movie


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Post by TajSamKojiJesam » October 31st, 2019, 11:20 pm

1) RR (James Benning)
2) Secret Sunshine (Chang-dong Lee)
3) My Winnipeg (Guy Maddin)
4) At Sea (Peter B. Hutton)
5) The Mourning Forest (Naomi Kawase)
6) Death in the Land of Encantos (Lav Diaz)
7) Drowned in Oblivion (Pierre-Yves Vandeweerd)
8) casting a glance (James Benning)
9) There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson)
10) The Man from London (Béla Tarr)



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Post by blocho » October 31st, 2019, 11:55 pm

Why are we doing a 2019 list so soon? I've seen all of 4 movies from 2019. I'm sure I'm not alone. I think a lot of people don't watch many movies during their initial release. Not to mention that a lot of great movies don't get any kind of release and take a couple of years to filter out to the wider public through other means.

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Post by joachimt » November 1st, 2019, 5:42 am

flaiky wrote:
October 31st, 2019, 9:28 pm
- Reply here with a list of titles you've seen from 2007, followed by a list of bare IMDb urls for the same films. The last bit is essential as it is how I gather and count the results.
If a movie isn't on IMDb, you should submit it there first, right?
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Post by cinewest » November 1st, 2019, 6:48 am

I count 40 very solid films on my list from 2007, but I will do my best to whittle it down... One of the best years for English language films in the 21st century

Frozen (Shivajee Chandrabhushan)
Stellet Licht (Carlos Reygades)
Le scaphandre et le papillon (Julian Schnabel)
Auf der anderen Seite (Fatih Akin)
La graine et le mulet (Abdellatif Kechiche )
Du levande (Roy Andersson)
I'm Not There (Todd Haynes)
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik )
Estomago ( Marcos Jorge)
Un Secret (Claude Miller)
There Will Be Blood (PTA)
Se, jie (Ang Lee)
No Country for Old Men (Coen Brothers)
4 Months 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Mungiu)
Across The Universe (Julie Taymor)
Soom (Ki-duk Kim)
Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (Sidney Lumet)
Sztuczki (Andrzej Jakimowski)
Into the Wild (Sean Penn)
Klopka (Srdan Golubovic)

Those films from 2007 that I most want to see are The Banishment, My Winnipeg...

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Post by flaiky » November 1st, 2019, 7:33 am

blocho wrote:
October 31st, 2019, 11:55 pm
Why are we doing a 2019 list so soon? I've seen all of 4 movies from 2019. I'm sure I'm not alone. I think a lot of people don't watch many movies during their initial release. Not to mention that a lot of great movies don't get any kind of release and take a couple of years to filter out to the wider public through other means.
We've had this exact concern the past two years, and each time we've produced really solid results. We do the poll so soon because it's fun to reflect on the year and gauge the most popular films. It will be open longer than usual, traditionally until Oscar night.
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Post by flaiky » November 1st, 2019, 7:34 am

joachimt wrote:
November 1st, 2019, 5:42 am
flaiky wrote:
October 31st, 2019, 9:28 pm
- Reply here with a list of titles you've seen from 2007, followed by a list of bare IMDb urls for the same films. The last bit is essential as it is how I gather and count the results.
If a movie isn't on IMDb, you should submit it there first, right?
Yes please.
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Post by beavis » November 1st, 2019, 7:36 am

1 - United Red Army - 5
2 - The Mourning Forest - 4,5
3 - You, the Living - 4,5
4 - Ex Drummer - 4,5
5 - Bakushi - 4,5
6 - Megane - 4
7 - Unrelated - 4
8 - 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days - 4
9 - The Man from London - 4
10 - Andarilho - 4
11 - Nachmittag - 4
12 - Lust, Caution - 4
13 - Eastern Promises - 4
14 - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly - 4
15 - My Winnipeg - 4
16 - Alexandra - 4
17 - Secret Sunshine - 4
18 - Ai no Yokan - 4
19 - Darjeeling Limited, The - 4
20 - No Country for Old Men - 4

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Post by hurluberlu » November 1st, 2019, 10:05 am

1 . The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford ( Andrew Dominik )
2 . There Will Be Blood ( Paul Thomas Anderson )
3 . Into the Wild ( Sean Penn )
4 . Auf der anderen Seite ( Fatih Akin )
5 . Control ( Anton Corbijn )
6 . Le scaphandre et le papillon ( Julian Schnabel )
7 . Boy A ( John Crowley )
8 . Please Vote for Me ( Weijun Chen )
9 . Cidade dos Homens ( Paulo Morelli )
10 . 4 luni, 3 saptamâni si 2 zile ( Cristian Mungiu )
11 . Juno ( Jason Reitman )
12 . Michael Clayton ( Tony Gilroy )
13 . Se, jie ( Ang Lee )
14 . Ploshcha ( Yuriy Khashchevatskiy )
15 . American Gangster ( Ridley Scott )
16 . The Bourne Ultimatum ( Paul Greengrass )
17 . No Country for Old Men ( Ethan Coen, Joel Coen )
18 . He Fengming ( Bing Wang )
19 . La graine et le mulet ( Abdellatif Kechiche )
20 . Mogari no mori ( Naomi Kawase )
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Post by joachimt » November 1st, 2019, 10:27 am

flaiky wrote:
November 1st, 2019, 7:34 am
joachimt wrote:
November 1st, 2019, 5:42 am
flaiky wrote:
October 31st, 2019, 9:28 pm
- Reply here with a list of titles you've seen from 2007, followed by a list of bare IMDb urls for the same films. The last bit is essential as it is how I gather and count the results.
If a movie isn't on IMDb, you should submit it there first, right?
Yes please.
Well, I wasn't asking this for myself actually. :whistling:
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Post by GruesomeTwosome » November 1st, 2019, 1:25 pm

1. No Country for Old Men (Coens)
2. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson)
3. Once (John Carney)
4. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik)
5. Superbad (Greg Mottola)
6. Knocked Up (Judd Apatow)
7. Paranoid Park (Gus Van Sant)
8. Los cronocrímenes / Timecrimes (Nacho Vigalondo)
9. Hot Fuzz (Edgar Wright)
10. The Savages (Tamara Jenkins)

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Post by Traveller » November 1st, 2019, 5:16 pm

1. There Will Be Blood
2. A londoni férfi (The Man from London)
3. Milyang (Secret Sunshine)
4. Izgnanie (The Banishment)
5. Ben X
6. Zodiac
7. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
8. No Country for Old Men
9. San taam (Mad Detective)
10. La antena
11. Se, jie (Lust, Caution)
12. Into the Wild

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Post by jeff_v » November 1st, 2019, 6:03 pm

1. There Will Be Blood
2. Zodiac
3. Paranoid Park
4. Gone Baby Gone
5. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days
6. Ratatouille
7. My Kid Could Paint That
8. You, the Living
9. Once
10. In the City of Sylvia
11. Hotel Chevalier
12. Knocked Up
13. Taxi to the Dark Side
14. Before the Devil Knows You're Dead
15. Les temoins / The Witnesses
16. No Country for Old Men
17. Stellet Licht / Silent Light
18. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
19. No End in Sight
20. King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0907657
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0809425
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1094249
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478311
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0854678
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0292963
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487273
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477348
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0841925
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443680
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0912593
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0923752


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Post by mathiasa » November 2nd, 2019, 12:53 am

1. La graine et le mulet
2. Les amours d'Astrée et de Céladon
3. Gone Baby Gone
4. Paranormal Activity
5. Encounters At The End Of The World
6. Planet Terror
7. Moebius Redux: A Life In Pictures
8. Death Proof
9. The Most Hated Family in America
10. Das Fahrzeug ist die zweite Haut
11. Der Abschrecker
12. Sieben Mulden und eine Leiche
13. 4 luni, 3 septamâni si 2 zile
14. Diary Of The Dead
15. The Mist
16. Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story
17. XXY
18. À l‘intérieur
19. Import Export
20. Die Stille Vor Bach






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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1179904
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1077258
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1029340
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1028528
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1000764
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2332591
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2631448
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1027744
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1032846
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848557
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0884328
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0995829
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0856288
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0459102
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1079450

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Post by Coryn » November 2nd, 2019, 9:11 am

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Post by outdoorcats » November 2nd, 2019, 7:48 pm

In gaming, both Bioshock and Portal were released in 2007 as well. Great year.

I thought a lot more about the order of this list than I usually do. Where do you place the cold, formal brilliance of Funny Games compared to such emotional masterpieces such as Lust, Caution or Jesse James? Or deliciously pitch-black neo-noirs such as Before the Devil Knows You're Dead? Does Sylvia's (unintentional?) creepiness add to or subtract from its greatness? And I always put There Will Be Blood first, but can I really choose between it and No Country? Which should I put first, [Rec] or Flight of the Red Balloon? :shrug:

1. There Will Be Blood
2. No Country for Old Men
3. In the City of Sylvia
4. Silent Light
5. Lust, Caution
6. Funny Games US
7. Before the Devil Knows You're Dead
8. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
9. XXY
10. 4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days

11. The Man from London
12. Death in the Land of Encantos
13. Zodiac
14. Once
15. The Duchess of Langeais [Don't Touch the Axe]
16. Up the Yangtze
17. Flight of the Red Balloon
18. [Rec]
19. Michael Clayton
20. Paranoid Park

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Post by St. Gloede » November 2nd, 2019, 10:07 pm

1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007, Andrew Dominik)
2. My Winnipeg (2007, Guy Maddin)
3. I'm Not There (2007, Todd Haynes)
4. Du Levande / You, the Living (2007, Roy Andersson)
5. There Will Be Blood (2007, Paul Thomas Anderson)
6. No Country for Old Men (2007, The Coen Brothers)
7. Youth Without Youth (2007, Francis Ford Coppola)
8. Margot at the Wedding (2007, Noah Baumbach)
9. 4 luni, 3 saptamâni si 2 zile / 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (2007, Cristian Mungiu)
10. Les témoins / The Witnesses (2007, André Téchiné)

11. The King of Kong (2007, Seth Gordon)
12. Gone Baby Gone (2007, Ben Affleck)
13. Lars and the Real Girl (2007, Craig Gillespie)
14. Sweeny Todd: The Demon Barber From Fleet Street (2007, Tim Burton)
15. Byôsoku 5 senchimêtoru / 5 Centimeters Per Second (2007, Makoto Shinkai)
16. Los cronocrímenes / Timecrimes (2007, Nacho Vigalondo)
17. La fille coupee en deux / A Girl Cut in Two (2007, Claude Chabrol)
18. Before The Devil Knows You're Dead (2007, Sidney Lumet)
19. Ratatouille (2007, Brad Bird & Jan Pinkava)
20. American Gangster (2007, Ridley Scott)


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Post by Onderhond » November 3rd, 2019, 10:23 am

Great year!
Visual recommends: https://www.onderhond.com/toplist/2007

01. Umfeld
02. Eden Log
03. Pop Skull
04. Ex Drummer
05. Small Gods
06. 5 Centimeters per Second [Byôsoku 5 Senchimêtoru]
07. Inside [À l'Intérieur]
08. Big Man Japan [Dai-Nihonjin]
09. Breath [Soom]
10. Genius Party
11. The Wall-Passer [Chuan Qiang Ren]
12. [Rec]
13. Glasses [Megane]
14. Funuke, Show Some Love You Losers [Funuke Domo, Kanashimi no Ai wo Misero]
15. Dead Daughters [Myortvye Docheri]
16. Frontier(s) [Frontière(s)]
17. Mad Detective [Sun Taam]
18. Shamo
19. Glory to the Filmmaker [Kantoku · Banzai!]
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Post by cinewest » November 3rd, 2019, 11:58 am

I can understand why folks haven't voted for Frozen (maybe only a couple have seen it, and it is probably hard to find (amazing film, though, and not at all what it at first seems to be about), but will someone please tell me what people have against Stellet Licht (Silent Light), a homage in large part to Carl Dreyer, while yet something altogether wondrous on its own.

Yeah, it moves slowly, and is about a somewhat strange yet reality based German Mennonite community living in the heart of Mexico, none of which are likely to have mass appeal, but I was amazed, and that rarely happens at the cinema for me (watching it on a big screen and being engulfed in the film's reality was certainly a plus). I don't even have much overt interest in subject matter, nor was I crazy about the earlier Reygades film I saw, but he nailed this one, at least for me.

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Post by joachimt » November 3rd, 2019, 1:25 pm

Watched Stellet Licht once, 6.5 years ago, so not very clearly in my memory except for it being rather slow indeed. I liked it though. Not voting for it doesn't mean I've got something against it. Rated it 7/10.
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Post by maxwelldeux » November 3rd, 2019, 1:47 pm

cinewest wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 11:58 am
I can understand why folks haven't voted for Frozen (maybe only a couple have seen it, and it is probably hard to find (amazing film, though, and not at all what it at first seems to be about), but will someone please tell me what people have against Stellet Licht (Silent Light), a homage in large part to Carl Dreyer, while yet something altogether wondrous on its own.

Yeah, it moves slowly, and is about a somewhat strange yet reality based German Mennonite community living in the heart of Mexico, none of which are likely to have mass appeal, but I was amazed, and that rarely happens at the cinema for me (watching it on a big screen and being engulfed in the film's reality was certainly a plus). I don't even have much overt interest in subject matter, nor was I crazy about the earlier Reygades film I saw, but he nailed this one, at least for me.
For me, I have a hard time connecting with any film with strong religious themes. Ordet impressed me on technical grounds and cinematography, and while I appreciated it, I didn't really like it (it was a 7/10 for me). Stellet Licht was a great homage to that, but I just didn't care - the subject matter was actively off-putting to me, so that combined with the pacing made it a fairly difficult watch. Nice enough cinematography, but not enough to draw me in (5/10).

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Post by Mysterious Dude » November 3rd, 2019, 1:56 pm

Stellet Licht is one of the most boring movies I've ever seen.

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Post by cinewest » November 3rd, 2019, 2:38 pm

joachimt wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 1:25 pm
Watched Stellet Licht once, 6.5 years ago, so not very clearly in my memory except for it being rather slow indeed. I liked it though. Not voting for it doesn't mean I've got something against it. Rated it 7/10.
Generally, highly touted films in the most respected critic's polls* do fairly well on this board, even some very slow ones by directors like Tarkovsky, and Tarr, etc., so I don't think it strange to wonder why only a couple of people polled have included it among their top 20 for 2007, or to wonder what folks seem to "have against it."

Based on the other two responses (a very small basis to go on) I got, my sense of what has put people off seems to be on point, especially as I was prepared to feel somewhat the same prior to seeing the film myself. In stead, I was amazingly surprised by how good it was in every sense as cinema.

* Stellet Licht is #349 in the Sight & Sound Poll of the best films of all time, and top 50 in the TSPDT 21st century poll. It's also ranked #3 among Latin American films from 2000-2009

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Post by blocho » November 3rd, 2019, 3:13 pm

cinewest wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 11:58 am
Yeah, it moves slowly
There you go.

I've seen snails move more quickly.

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Post by St. Gloede » November 3rd, 2019, 3:24 pm

It was a great step up from Battle in Heaven, a film so comically bad and poorly made its limited respect shocks me. Silent Light showed that Reygadas had an ounch of talent, but the edges still felt sloppy and poorly done. Great cinematography can only do so much.

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Post by albajos » November 3rd, 2019, 3:47 pm

01. Megane
02. No Country for Old Men

03. Hot Fuzz
04. The Most Hated Family in America
05. Taxi to the Dark Side
06. Into the Wild
07. Once
08. Family Guy: Blue Harvest
09. Ratatouille

10. XXY
11. Juno
12. Die Fälscher
13. Buda as sharm foru rikht
14. Futurama: Bender's Big Score
15. Your Friend the Rat
16. Varg Veum - Bitre blomster
17. Martian Child
18. Le ring
19. Sigur Rós: Heima
20. Spinning

As I'm behind on the icm checks vs imdb votes I'm not done. I'll add the links when I have gone through everything

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Post by cinewest » November 3rd, 2019, 4:21 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
November 3rd, 2019, 3:24 pm
It was a great step up from Battle in Heaven, a film so comically bad and poorly made its limited respect shocks me. Silent Light showed that Reygadas had an ounch of talent, but the edges still felt sloppy and poorly done. Great cinematography can only do so much.
Didn't see Battle of Heaven, and not really drawn to it despite ample critical approval. I also didn't think much of Japon, but I thought Silent Light was outstanding (far more than cinematography), and I also liked Post Tenbras Lux quite a bit, as well.

Have noticed that quite a few less commercial films are doing well in this poll, like In the city of Sylvia, and Milyang, among others, and they could also be called “slow,” even obscure narratives.
Though I liked both, I didn’t include either on my list because I thought neither was fully realized the way Silent Light was.
Movies are like dreams, and they all attempt to pull us into them and the worlds they depict, holding our interest and wowing us to some extent or another according to how we experience them and what our reference points are.
And while, On the surface, a film like In the City of Sylvia is much more attractive to me, it didn’t captivate me the way Silent Light did, not did I find it as complete.

One of the reasons I am raising the questions I am, is that it is probably the starkest example of dissonance in opinion here about 2007 with the critical consensus in polls like Sight &Sound and TSPDT, which are very comprehensive.

Can’t say that I always agree with the polls of critics, even among publications I have a high respect for, but I usually consider and explore the reasons for my own difference of opinion just as I am doing here
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