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ICM Forum's 500<400 2019 RESULTS!

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Re: ICM Forum's 500<400 2019 RESULTS!

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Post by AdamH » July 3rd, 2020, 9:05 am

AdamH wrote:
May 8th, 2020, 12:41 pm
I made a list on iCM of all the films which still have <400 checks which have featured in 500<400 at some point over the past seven years. 707 films still have <400 checks. 468 are from the 2019 edition (only 32 films have reached 400 checks so far).

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/500d ... ons/adamh/

I've started watching/re-watching some of the films on the list. We need to promote it more. There's 40+ shorts still with <400 checks despite having been on (or still on) the list.
In just under two months, this list has gone from 707 films to 696 so they are gradually reaching 400 checks. It's also gone from 468 films in the current list to 459. 50+ of the films only need 20 checks or less to reach 400.

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Post by AdamH » July 18th, 2020, 10:59 pm

I found an interesting film blog site where someone talks about 500<400 and has watched the top five films in the list as part of a challenge. https://medialifecrisis.com/acting-out/ ... n-400.html. Apparently Bas van Stratum from Flickchart/Letterboxd recommended the list. You can see his/her reviews of the top five here: https://medialifecrisis.com/topics/icm- ... n-400.html

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Post by zzzorf » July 18th, 2020, 11:45 pm

AdamH wrote:
July 18th, 2020, 10:59 pm
I found an interesting film blog site where someone talks about 500<400 and has watched the top five films in the list as part of a challenge. https://medialifecrisis.com/acting-out/ ... n-400.html. Apparently Bas van Stratum from Flickchart/Letterboxd recommended the list. You can see his/her reviews of the top five here: https://medialifecrisis.com/topics/icm- ... n-400.html
Yeah and he will be watching more from the list down the track. He is part of the Flickcharters group on Facebook that I am involved from which he made a sub-group for us to give these lists to him to watch. Bas beat me to the 550<400 list so I ended up just giving him a bunch of Australian films. It has been an entertaining endeavour so far which all the other lists he has tackled so far appear on his blog site.

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Post by jeff_v » July 19th, 2020, 12:00 am

We can all enter our house justified now.

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Post by Nathan Treadway » August 4th, 2020, 1:14 pm

zzzorf wrote:
July 18th, 2020, 11:45 pm
AdamH wrote:
July 18th, 2020, 10:59 pm
I found an interesting film blog site where someone talks about 500<400 and has watched the top five films in the list as part of a challenge. https://medialifecrisis.com/acting-out/ ... n-400.html. Apparently Bas van Stratum from Flickchart/Letterboxd recommended the list. You can see his/her reviews of the top five here: https://medialifecrisis.com/topics/icm- ... n-400.html
Yeah and he will be watching more from the list down the track. He is part of the Flickcharters group on Facebook that I am involved from which he made a sub-group for us to give these lists to him to watch. Bas beat me to the 550<400 list so I ended up just giving him a bunch of Australian films. It has been an entertaining endeavour so far which all the other lists he has tackled so far appear on his blog site.
Invite him here to take part. :)

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Post by Torgo » September 6th, 2020, 7:40 pm

Onderhond wrote:
April 10th, 2020, 1:40 pm
PGonzalez wrote:
April 10th, 2020, 1:08 pm
Sure, I understand the need for somewhat disruptive choices to keep things interesting, but like Lonewolf said critics and scholars are usually the only ones in a position to create such lists - or to make them visible
I think visibility/clout is the biggest hurdle there, which is why these list are often just as much "popularity lists" as the Reddit or IMDb ones. Whether it's popular arthouse or popular blockbusters really doesn't make much of a difference imo. The most successful approach would be to go for singular critic lists that stand out from the rest, but like I said, I rarely rely on critics to find films I like, so I'm not sure what's out there.
PGonzalez wrote:
April 10th, 2020, 1:08 pm
Also, I'd argue that most of the country lists, in which ICM excels, are very obscure focused by nature, even if they aren't dissenting because there really isn't a great possibility of dissent when it comes to a lot of those lists.
Hmmm, I don't agree, but because I don't see obscurity as an immediate measure of diversity. To stick with what I know: the Japanese lists for example (the Kinema Junpo one in particular, because that seems to be a critics favorite) may feature many "obscure" films for us Westerners, but the films themselves are all very much stuck in the same niches. It's mostly just arthouse dramas and elevated commercial films.
PGonzalez wrote:
April 10th, 2020, 1:08 pm
The idea of disruption for the sake of variety is fun, and there's already DtC and 500<400 for that, as long as it isn't overdone.
Myeah, again, these lists fail at adding much variety in my opinion. I just don't feel changing the rules for submissions would fix that problem :)
Just skimmed through the thread and came across the discussion of you guys. I think Onderhond makes some valid points in how so much of all "canon" and critics lists focus on arthouse/dramas. I will pay attention to this, myself, in the future.


Anyhow, I was actually searching for something completely different.
Am I just too blind to see an IMDb list for the whole 500<400? :facepalm: The official entry links three times to our forum, but never to an IMDb version. I'm sure it must be somewhere? :) If I google for it, I just get a ton of personal lists for the poll, not the final thing.

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Post by Fergenaprido » September 6th, 2020, 8:29 pm

I don't believe there is an imdb list. At least, Peaceful didn't make one.

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