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Post by Ebbywebby » August 12th, 2019, 10:28 pm

After deleting "Faraway, So Close!" (which hit 400 checks less than TWO HOURS AGO), I have this. But now I have to see if I want to add anything from 2017 [edit: nope].

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/ebby ... ebbywebby/

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Post by blocho » August 12th, 2019, 11:39 pm

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls074640894/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/dashleft400/blocho/
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Same list. Use either link. Added 16 and removed 6.

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Post by Gorro » August 13th, 2019, 12:04 am

My 2017 additions:

The Dawn Wall - If you liked this year's Oscar winning doc Free Solo you'll like this one as well
Wonderful Losers: A Different World - A nicely edited doc about the back of the peloton of professional cycling
Jusqu'à la garde - Very impressive debut film that keeps building the tension higher and higher in this painful domestic abuse story
L'insulte - Middle eastern politics presented in an effective court room drama
Der Hauptmann - The chaos among the ranks of the German army during the final days of WO2
AlphaGo - Effective docu about the AI vs Go match in which the attitude of the Go master is even more interesting than the behind the scenes look of the AI team
Kamera o tomeru na! - The risky structure (don't turn it off too quickly) leads to a funny payoff with enough ideas to keep it interesting
The Children Act - Strong performance by Emma Thompson elevates this uneven portrait of a judge that poses interesting questions
Western - Cultural differences between eastern and western Europe in a modern day interpretation of the western
Kodachrome - Pleasant roadmovie filled with nostalgia
Jupiter holdja - Good cinematography in this Hungarian arthouse superhero movie

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Post by Nathan Treadway » August 13th, 2019, 1:22 am

cinephage wrote:
August 12th, 2019, 3:48 pm
- Lerd (aka A Man of Integrity, by Mohammad Rasoulof) - A very intense film about corruption in Iran. Filmed with a lot of talent, by this long-time collaborator of Panahi, but this film finally got Rasoulof in jail. That enough should generate some interest in a film the Iranian authorities don't want people to watch
This one seemed to catch my eye, but, the English subs that are floating around are evidently horrible.. :(

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Post by cinephage » August 13th, 2019, 7:29 am

Nathan Treadway wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 1:22 am
cinephage wrote:
August 12th, 2019, 3:48 pm
- Lerd (aka A Man of Integrity, by Mohammad Rasoulof) - A very intense film about corruption in Iran. Filmed with a lot of talent, by this long-time collaborator of Panahi, but this film finally got Rasoulof in jail. That enough should generate some interest in a film the Iranian authorities don't want people to watch
This one seemed to catch my eye, but, the English subs that are floating around are evidently horrible.. :(
It was distributed in dvd in France, which is how I saw it, with french subtitles... I hope it gets better english subtitles, it certainly deserves them.

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Post by sol » August 13th, 2019, 10:49 am

I'm trying something different this year by submitting a ballot early rather than late. I hope this might encourage others to look at my list and add in titles that they may have not thought / forgotten to add to their own list. The order of these (ranked) films are subject to change. I might also add some more stuff this month with the current <400 Checks Challenge, but this will do for now.

My list:
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Fun stats:

Number of new entries in my list this year: 54 (13.5%)

Highest new entries: Joe (1970), The Visit (1964), The Field (1990)

Here is a breakdown of my ballot by # of Official Lists:

On 4 Official Lists: 1 entry
On 3 Official Lists: 9 entries
On 2 Official Lists: 25 entries
On 1 Official Lists: 73 entries
On 0 Official Lists: 292 entries

Breakdown of my current top 20 (order will probably change, but based on what I have at the moment:

On 3 Official Lists: 2 entries
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I... comme Icare (1979) - no permanent Official Lists placements
The Falls (1980) - only one permanent Official List placement (366W)
On 2 Official Lists: 2 entries
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Whistle Down the Wind (1961) - no permanent Official Lists placements
The Loved One (1965) - two permanent Official List placements
On 1 Official Lists: 7 entries
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The Belly of an Architect (1987) - only list: 500<400
Tiger Bay (1959) - only list: 500<400
The Last of Sheila (1973) - only list: 500<400
Alexandra's Project (2003) - only list: 500<400
King Rat (1965) - only list: DTC
Tribulation 99 (1992) - only list: BFI Screen Guide Sci-Fi
Until the End of the World (1991) - only list: 500<400
On 0 Official Lists: 9 entries

Most obscure films on my ballot:

The Axe of Wandsbek (1951) - 9 checks - available on kanopy
Soldiers in Hiding (1985) - 10 checks
Where the River Runs Black (1986) - 11 checks
Rafferty and the Gold Dust Twins (1975) - 12 checks
Why Shoot the Teacher? (1977) - 13 checks
Jet Storm (1959) - 14 checks
Las aventuras de Juan Quin Quin (1967) - 15 checks
Welcome to Blood City (1977) - 15 checks
Tiara Tahiti (1962) - 16 checks
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Post by sortile9io » August 13th, 2019, 12:33 pm

This will be mine: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/favo ... ortile9io/. Still pending to do some tidy-up. It is ranked.
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Post by ChrisReynolds » August 13th, 2019, 5:14 pm

I'll definitely put in votes for One Cut of the Dead and Vuelven. Both must-sees of underseen horror from the past couple of years.

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Post by bal3x » August 13th, 2019, 7:06 pm

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls070235573/

I understand the ones with 400+ will be automatically removed? Don't have an easy way to do that now that the 400 checks script is no longer working with that new layout.


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Post by Ebbywebby » August 13th, 2019, 8:58 pm

sol wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 10:49 am
I'm trying something different this year by submitting a ballot early rather than late. I hope this might encourage others to look at my list and add in titles that they may have not thought / forgotten to add to their own list. The order of these (ranked) films are subject to change. I might also add some more stuff this month with the current <400 Checks Challenge, but this will do for now.
I've checked a modest 98 of your picks, but 33 of them are also on my <400 list, which seems like quite a few! Furthermore, there are several others that were near-misses for me, to the point that I think some films (The Rain People, The Devil's Wanton, Savages, Secret Ceremony, Sweet Bird of Youth...) were PREVIOUSLY on my <400 list but eventually cut as the competition grew tougher. And I need to see The Belly of an Architect again -- I'm probably goofing in omitting it due to bad memory.

I hated Wonderwall and Tribulation 99: Alien Anomalies Under America, though. And Welcome to L.A. wasn't such a bad film, but the horrible music destroys it.

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Post by mathiasa » August 13th, 2019, 9:07 pm

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I have a new #1: The Flying Luna Clipper. Which I discovered following the animation poll results. I hope the few voters who pushed it into the poll will also vote for it here (and thanks to you guys for promoting this very special movie).

Also, for those who liked Alone in the Wilderness, the documentary about the hermit Richard Proenneke - there are a couple of additional documentaries from the same production team, i.e. Alone in the Wilderness Part II (2011). (If anyone knows where/how to get The Frozen North or Alaska: Silence & Solitude please let me know).

Also I finally saw the complete highlands trilogy. Black Harvest has become a small forum favorite, but the first two, First Contact and Joe Leahy's Neighbours remain underwatched. If you've seen them, don't forget to put them on your list!

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Post by Ebbywebby » August 13th, 2019, 9:21 pm

Now, how are we going to get 157 people to watch "A Year Along the Abandoned Road" before late September?

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » August 13th, 2019, 11:08 pm

bal3x wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 7:06 pm
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls070235573/

I understand the ones with 400+ will be automatically removed? Don't have an easy way to do that now that the 400 checks script is no longer working with that new layout.
Easiest way is: export, import to a new list on ICM, export, sort by checks, delete everything over 400 checks, sort back by list order, create a new list.

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Post by joachimt » August 14th, 2019, 4:41 am

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
August 12th, 2019, 6:40 am
joachimt wrote:
August 12th, 2019, 6:24 am
The OP says nothing about stand-alone episodes. Did you ditch them completely? We always allow them, but last year we decided (or at least discussed) about an additional rule that the main page of the complete series must be under 400 checks, not just the page of the episode.
The OP is the same as before. I think that's an OK rule. I can't filter them before the fact like films over 400 checks though.
So this is a definite yes that the Black Mirror episode is out?
I’m surprised nobody else responded to my post about this.
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » August 14th, 2019, 4:47 am

joachimt wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 4:41 am
PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
August 12th, 2019, 6:40 am
joachimt wrote:
August 12th, 2019, 6:24 am
The OP says nothing about stand-alone episodes. Did you ditch them completely? We always allow them, but last year we decided (or at least discussed) about an additional rule that the main page of the complete series must be under 400 checks, not just the page of the episode.
The OP is the same as before. I think that's an OK rule. I can't filter them before the fact like films over 400 checks though.
So this is a definite yes that the Black Mirror episode is out?
I’m surprised nobody else responded to my post about this.
The two episodes on the top 1000 last year are over 400 checks individually anyway. But yes, all black mirror eps are out.

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Post by maxwelldeux » August 14th, 2019, 5:51 am

If y'all're curious, I'm running with that rule in the <400 Checks challenge now, and it seems to be going OK.

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Post by sol » August 14th, 2019, 10:36 am

Ebbywebby wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 8:58 pm
sol wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 10:49 am
I'm trying something different this year by submitting a ballot early rather than late. I hope this might encourage others to look at my list and add in titles that they may have not thought / forgotten to add to their own list.
I've checked a modest 98 of your picks, but 33 of them are also on my <400 list, which seems like quite a few!
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August 13th, 2019, 8:58 pm
Furthermore, there are several others that were near-misses for me, to the point that I think some films (The Rain People, The Devil's Wanton, Savages, Secret Ceremony, Sweet Bird of Youth...) were PREVIOUSLY on my <400 list but eventually cut as the competition grew tougher.
Yeah, I have been culling films too, though I have been reconsidering this year. Back when I first submitted a list, I limited it to 400 films under the logic that anything below #400 would receive too few points to make a real difference in results, however, there is no real disadvantage in submitting a longer list. I have enjoyed filtering out strong likes from favourites during the culling process, but it is fast approaching the point at which it will become too hard to cull anything - at which point I might need to expand. But not this year.
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August 13th, 2019, 10:49 am
And I need to see The Belly of an Architect again -- I'm probably goofing in omitting it due to bad memory.
The overall film probably isn't as good as Dennehy's performance, but he's amazing in it; the film's position is my list is largely elevated due to Dennehy, though of course it is well shot as per Greenaway norm.
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I hated Wonderwall and Tribulation 99: Alien Anomalies Under America, though. And Welcome to L.A. wasn't such a bad film, but the horrible music destroys it.
Tribulation 99 should probably be lower in my list. I don't even remember the music in Welcome to L.A. offhand, but I loved the performances. Wonderwall was pretty fun for me at the time as a fan of Polanski's Fearless Vampire Killers. No idea how it would stack up to rewatch.
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Post by bal3x » August 14th, 2019, 1:50 pm

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 11:08 pm
bal3x wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 7:06 pm
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls070235573/

I understand the ones with 400+ will be automatically removed? Don't have an easy way to do that now that the 400 checks script is no longer working with that new layout.
Easiest way is: export, import to a new list on ICM, export, sort by checks, delete everything over 400 checks, sort back by list order, create a new list.
Right, I've done that now, updated the list.

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Post by rnilsson19 » August 14th, 2019, 2:21 pm

Gorro wrote:
August 12th, 2019, 10:10 am
My ranked list:

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/gorr ... rum/gorro/
Is it a conscious choice to have just the third part of Manuel on the Island of Wonders?

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Post by Gorro » August 14th, 2019, 5:14 pm

rnilsson19 wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 2:21 pm
Gorro wrote:
August 12th, 2019, 10:10 am
My ranked list:

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/gorr ... rum/gorro/
Is it a conscious choice to have just the third part of Manuel on the Island of Wonders?

https://www.icheckmovies.com/movies/man ... e+dechecs/
No. Must have been an artifact of the changes on IMDb of splitting the mini-series into episodes this year. I reused my list from last year. Or I made the mistake last year as well.

Anyway, thanks for noticing. I updated my list.

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Post by Traveller » August 14th, 2019, 5:55 pm

Posting now too lest I forget in a month.

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/trav ... traveller/

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If I decide to change the way I want the list ranked at a later date (might split the unranked part into two groups), is editing this post enough or do you need an update somehow, PeacefulAnarchy?
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Post by joachimt » August 14th, 2019, 8:26 pm

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
August 11th, 2019, 7:21 pm
Eligible titles that you've rated on IMDb (sorted by your rating)
Just a warning to people that this link excludes standalone episodes. I just used this to check if I had errors on my (always up-to-date) list. I found Abigail's Party for example on my list, but it doesn't show up in the search results of the above link, because it's an episode. It's eligible though.
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Post by joachimt » August 14th, 2019, 8:29 pm

joachimt wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 8:26 pm
PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
August 11th, 2019, 7:21 pm
Eligible titles that you've rated on IMDb (sorted by your rating)
Just a warning to people that this link excludes standalone episodes. I just used this to check if I had errors on my (always up-to-date) list. I found Abigail's Party for example on my list, but it doesn't show up in the search results of the above link, because it's an episode. It's eligible though.
It also doesn't include "TV Short", so something like Zig-Zag - le jeu de l'oie is missing from the search results, although it's eligible.
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » August 14th, 2019, 8:39 pm

Yeah, if you're going to include TV stuff you need to work through that on ICM and use your judgement anyway.

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Post by Cocoa » August 14th, 2019, 11:11 pm

Ranked:

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls090590991/

Each year, I expand my list by 100 and this is year 7 for me, so I guess I'll submit a list of 700 this year. I have over a hundred backups I could add to the list or I could shorten the list because a bunch of films aren't getting points at a certain number, but there's no right logic in picking the perfect list size for this so I'll just continue my tradition for this year.

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Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » August 15th, 2019, 2:18 am

Hi Peaceful. I'm looking forward to assembling a list.

Just a little query. When I click onto the helpful link of eligible titles I have seen, I get the following:

Feature Film/TV Movie/TV Mini-Series/Documentary/Short Film/Video, Released at most 2017-12-31, Restrict to Titles I've Seen, Not Icheckmovies films over 400 Checks, Not Icheckmovies films over 400 Checks, Rating 6.8 and under (Sorted by Your Rating Descending)

Why 6.8 and under? I wonder whether that is meant to be there.
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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » August 15th, 2019, 2:32 am

RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote:
August 15th, 2019, 2:18 am
Hi Peaceful. I'm looking forward to assembling a list.

Just a little query. When I click onto the helpful link of eligible titles I have seen, I get the following:

Feature Film/TV Movie/TV Mini-Series/Documentary/Short Film/Video, Released at most 2017-12-31, Restrict to Titles I've Seen, Not Icheckmovies films over 400 Checks, Not Icheckmovies films over 400 Checks, Rating 6.8 and under (Sorted by Your Rating Descending)

Why 6.8 and under? I wonder whether that is meant to be there.
There's two lists, together they are all films over 400 checks. There are more than 10000 (around 15000 I think) films over 400 checks which means I need two lists for them. I decided to split at 6.8 imdb rating since that's about an even split and splitting by imdb rating allows the over 6.8 list to be used to make the ICM imdb lists.

Icheckmovies films over 400 Checks <----- This is actually films over 400 checks and above 6.8 on imdb
Icheckmovies films over 400 Checks, Rating 6.8 and under <----- These are the others, also includes some highly rated docs so that they don't show up in the genre imdb lists on ICM.

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Post by Ebbywebby » August 15th, 2019, 2:41 am

Just a reminder about a few ranking films from last year's poll that are right on the cusp of 400 checks. A few more watches and they'll become ineligible. And the eventual poll results will remain fresh a little longer, and you'll have a couple of extra decisions made for you.

Ljubavni slucaj ili tragedija sluzbenice P.T.T. 1967 — a.k.a. Love Affair; or The Case of the Missing Switchboard Operator -- 399 checks

This Land Is Mine 1943 -- 399 checks

Shônen 1969 — a.k.a. Boy -- 398 checks

The Belly of an Architect 1987 -- 397 checks

Salaam Cinema 1995 — a.k.a. Hello Cinema -- 397 checks

Ji-geum-eun-mat-go-geu-ddae-neun-teul-li-da 2015 — a.k.a. Right Now, Wrong Then -- 396 checks

Sadie Thompson 1928 -- 395 checks (finished #518)

Colloque de chiens 1977 — a.k.a. Dog's Dialogue -- 394 checks (short)

Brumes d'automne 1929 -- 389 checks (another short)

I'd watch Salaam Cinema myself, if I had a stream bookmarked.

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Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » August 15th, 2019, 3:46 am

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
August 15th, 2019, 2:32 am
RogerTheMovieManiac88 wrote:
August 15th, 2019, 2:18 am
Hi Peaceful. I'm looking forward to assembling a list.

Just a little query. When I click onto the helpful link of eligible titles I have seen, I get the following:

Feature Film/TV Movie/TV Mini-Series/Documentary/Short Film/Video, Released at most 2017-12-31, Restrict to Titles I've Seen, Not Icheckmovies films over 400 Checks, Not Icheckmovies films over 400 Checks, Rating 6.8 and under (Sorted by Your Rating Descending)

Why 6.8 and under? I wonder whether that is meant to be there.
There's two lists, together they are all films over 400 checks. There are more than 10000 (around 15000 I think) films over 400 checks which means I need two lists for them. I decided to split at 6.8 imdb rating since that's about an even split and splitting by imdb rating allows the over 6.8 list to be used to make the ICM imdb lists.

Icheckmovies films over 400 Checks <----- This is actually films over 400 checks and above 6.8 on imdb
Icheckmovies films over 400 Checks, Rating 6.8 and under <----- These are the others, also includes some highly rated docs so that they don't show up in the genre imdb lists on ICM.
Oh, okay. Thank you for the response and explanation.
That's all, folks!

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Post by joachimt » August 15th, 2019, 6:40 am

Weird, there's a lot of Mr. Bean stuff that's not labeled as episode, so they show up in the search results. Some are video compilations of a few episodes put together. Others I'm not even sure off. To me all this stuff are episodes of the same series. Going to skip them.
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Post by albajos » August 15th, 2019, 7:28 am

They are TV specials. (there were only 2-3 every year) They wont get enough votes anyway

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Post by joachimt » August 15th, 2019, 8:30 am

I always keep my list up-to-date. When I rate a movie 8 or higher and it has less than 400 checks, I immediately add it. I just did a full checkup of eligible titles that are not on my list. I haven't done this check in several years. Apparently I only forgot to add a movie twice in all these years: once in April 2017 (No Man of Her Own) and once in November 2017 (Billy Budd). Since then no mistakes. :)

There were several other things on the eligible search results that are not on my list, but I excluded these, because they don't belong to this list in my opinion:
- music videos
- concert videos
- stand-up comedy
- episodes of Mr. Bean
- episodes of Les Vampires
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Post by Eve-Lang-El-Coup » August 15th, 2019, 2:17 pm

Ebbywebby wrote:
August 15th, 2019, 2:41 am
Just a reminder about a few ranking films from last year's poll that are right on the cusp of 400 checks. A few more watches and they'll become ineligible. And the eventual poll results will remain fresh a little longer, and you'll have a couple of extra decisions made for you.

Ljubavni slucaj ili tragedija sluzbenice P.T.T. 1967 — a.k.a. Love Affair; or The Case of the Missing Switchboard Operator -- 399 checks

This Land Is Mine 1943 -- 399 checks

Shônen 1969 — a.k.a. Boy -- 398 checks

Cool, I'll watch these then, should have watched them a long time ago anyway.

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Post by matthewscott8 » August 16th, 2019, 9:29 am

Are lists with over 6,000 titles that haven't been updated since 2014, and contain many ineligible titles allowed? Not that I am thinking about any in particular teehee.

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Post by joachimt » August 16th, 2019, 10:43 am

matthewscott8 wrote:
August 16th, 2019, 9:29 am
Are lists with over 6,000 titles that haven't been updated since 2014, and contain many ineligible titles allowed? Not that I am thinking about any in particular teehee.
If such a user compiles an anti-canon of 300 titles which is updated and only contains titles with less than 400 checks, I think we shouldn't allow a list of over 6000 titles. :whistling:
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