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Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 2nd, 2019, 3:58 am
by Caracortada

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 3rd, 2019, 8:11 pm
by joachimt
1. Solyaris
2. Uta
3. Sleuth
4. The Godfather
5. Kozijat rog
6. Viskningar och rop
7. Gunki hatameku motoni
8. Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes
9. Espejismo
10. Obrazy starého sveta
11. Morgiana
12. Deliverance
13. Roma
14. P mesle pelican
15. Die bitteren Tränen der Petra von Kant
16. Winter Soldier
17. Frenzy
18. La cabina
19. Még kér a nép
20. Uma Abelha na Chuva
I hope that the people who already voted before the Solyaris decision was made, have noticed the decision and change their vote (if they want to vote for Solyaris of course). It's back at 1972 on IMDb, btw.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 3rd, 2019, 8:55 pm
by maxwelldeux
Just edited mine to include Solaris...

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 3rd, 2019, 9:04 pm
by XxXApathy420XxX
Ranked

Солярис [Solaris]
Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes [Aguirre: The Wrath of God]
Film Portrait
माया दर्पण [Mirror of Illusion]
Le cousin Jules [Cousin Jules]
Der Tod der Maria Malibran [The Death of Maria Malibran]
The Heartbreak Kid
Secondo il mio occhio di vetro
São Bernardo
LA Plays Itself
さようならCP [Goodbye CP]
The Godfather
المخدوعون [The Dupes]
Variations on a Cellophane Wrapper
Absences répétées [Repeated Absences]
Jak daleko stąd, jak blisko [How Far, How Near]
Sambizanga

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069293/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068182/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068585/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068929/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0128142/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067861/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068687/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3196710/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185714/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0249670/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0234669/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068899/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0194497/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0198280/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068757/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069214/

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 3rd, 2019, 9:37 pm
by St. Gloede
Damn it, forgot that Film Portrait was listed as '72 now. And suddenly I have a new number 1!

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 4th, 2019, 1:50 am
by outdoorcats

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 4th, 2019, 9:28 am
by Jimi Antiloop
Not much happend for me in this year. Have to watch some more films and give rewatches a chance, I barely remember.

1. What?
2. Slaughterhouse-Five
3. Solaris
4. Roma
5. The Godfather

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070913
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069280
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069293
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069191
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 4th, 2019, 10:31 am
by sol
joachimt wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 8:11 pm
I hope that the people who already voted before the Solyaris decision was made, have noticed the decision and change their vote (if they want to vote for Solyaris of course). It's back at 1972 on IMDb, btw.
Yep, just saw this myself. Thanks for helping us fix this, Gromit. :D

Image

:clap: :clap: :clap: Back to 1972! :clap: :clap: :clap:


More wacky release date changing: IMDb has changed Picnic from 1955 to 1956 despite winning two awards at the Oscars for 1955. :blink:

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 4th, 2019, 5:41 pm
by Traveller
Thanks for the heads up, of course Solyaris makes my list. :)

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 5th, 2019, 3:38 am
by Ebbywebby
I guess...

1. The Godfather
2. Aguirre: Wrath of God
3. Solaris
4. Cabaret
5. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
6. The Merchant of Four Seasons
7. Deliverance
8. Cries & Whispers (I don't remember my reaction to this well enough)
9. Last Tango in Paris
10. The New Land
11. The Ruling Class
12. The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant
13. The King of Marvin Gardens
14. La Cabina

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068182/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069293/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068327/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068361/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067227/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068473/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069467/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070849/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069035/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069198/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068278/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068805/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065513/

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 6th, 2019, 5:58 am
by monclivie

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 7th, 2019, 2:46 pm
by timshelboy
I'll check dates and add links later

1) CABARET
2) PLAY IT AGAIN, SAM
3) THE GODFATHER
4) THE TRIPLE ECHO
5) THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE
6) PINK FLAMINGOS
7) SLAUGHTERHOUSE 5
8) THE DISCREET CHARM OF THE BOURGEOISIE
9) FRENZY
10) DELIVERANCE
11) THE OUTSIDE MAN
12) LIMBO
13) THE VALLEY (OBSCURED BY CLOUDS)
14) HOW TO STEAL A DIAMOND/THE HOT ROCK
15) EVERYTHING YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT SEX....
16) A WOMAN SOBBING (TV)
17) THE EXORCISM (TV)
18) STATE OF SIEGE
19) THEY ONLY KILL THEIR MASTERS

URLs
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068327 ... _=nv_sr_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069097/?ref_=fn_al_tt_7
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070835/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069113/?r ... f_=nv_sr_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069089/?r ... =nv_sr_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069280/? ... _=nv_sr_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068361/?r ... f_=nv_sr_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068611/ ... _=nv_sr_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068473/? ... _al_tt_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070083/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068860/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069451/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068718/? ... _=nv_sr_2
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068555/?r ... =nv_sr_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069512/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346845/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070959/?r ... f_=nv_sr_1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069371/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

One of the few post 1939 years I can't summon up a full 20 I like enough to list. :(

Obscurities?

THE TRIPLE ECHO is an absorbing, offbeat, splendidly performed, beautifully shot, bucolic drama from HE Bates story about WW2 deserter who hides out on a farm with a lonely woman. They become lovers and he drags up to disguise himself as her sister to avoid detection, and then becomes the object of a brutal sergeant's fancy.... Oliver Reed's finest hour as the sergeant ( all together now - "Dippy Dippy Dippy in the old honey pot!") and close to Glenda Jackson's. It was also known as the more "come hither" title of SOLDIER IN SKIRTS.

THE OUTSIDE MAN is slick rival hit man thriller with VG cast (JL Trintignant, Ann-Margret, Roy Scheider, Angie Disckinson)

LIMBO - obscure drama directed by Mark Robson about waiting wives of Vietnam soldiers with early role for pre CHARLIES ANGELS Kate Jackson.

Both the TV creepies have had an R2 dvd release in a compilation called DEAD OF NIGHT


Predictions?
GODFATHER trounced CABARET on imdb1 back in the day....

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 7th, 2019, 3:49 pm
by joachimt
timshelboy wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 2:46 pm
11) AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
This is 1971.

Also, don't forget to add urls.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 8th, 2019, 8:30 am
by Angel Glez
Unranked ballot
A zori zdes tikhie (The Dawns Here Are Quiet)
Ai nu (Intimate Confessions of a Chinese Courtesan)
Al-makhdu'un (The Dupes)
Bas ya Bahar (The Cruel Sea)
Frenzy
Il caso Mattei (The Mattei Affair)
Le avventure di Pinocchio (The Adventures of Pinocchio)
Milano calibro 9 (Caliber 9)
Nevestka (Daughter-in-Law)
Play It Again, Sam
Qiu jue (Execution in Autumn)
Sambizanga
Slaughterhouse-Five
The Carey Treatment
The Getaway
The Poseidon Adventure
Tian xia di yi quan (5 Fingers of Death)
Un flic (Dirty Money)
Un homme est mort (The Outside Man)
What's Up, Doc? Deliberately excluded (IMDb/TSPDT/S&S top 500)
Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes
Cabaret
Der Tod der Maria Malibran
Le charme discret de la bourgeoisie
Roma
Sleuth
Solyaris
The Godfather
Ultimo tango a Parigi
Viskningar och rop

To see before the deadline
Furusato
Heute nacht oder nie
San Michele aveva un gallo

Wanted
Al-fahd
Bronte: cronaca di un massacro che i libri di storia non hanno raccontato
Ivanov kater

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 12:21 pm
by peeptoad
peeptoad wrote:
May 29th, 2019, 5:22 pm
ranked:

1. La vallée
2. Il tuo vizio è una stanza chiusa e solo io ne ho la chiave
3. Images
4. Bone
5. Cosa avete fatto a Solange?
6. Morgiana
7. Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes
8. Ciao Manhattan
9. The Night Stalker
10. Deliverance
11. Frenzy
12. Tutti i colori del buio
13. The Stone Tape
14. Horror Express
15. The Godfather
16. Wedding in White
17. Perché quelle strane gocce di sangue sul corpo di Jennifer?
18. La semana del asesino
19. L'etrusco uccide ancora
20. A Warning to the Curious

updated to include Morgiana at #6 since I just watched for the EE challenge. Links updated, but let me know if you see any glaring mistakes...

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 3:18 pm
by frbrown

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 4:00 pm
by St. Gloede
frbrown wrote:
June 11th, 2019, 3:18 pm
1. Film Portrait
(l) (l) (l) (l) (l) (l) (l) (l)

Another #1 vote for Film Portrait!

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 4:37 pm
by timshelboy
Help

I can't seem to post URLs anymore

I'm clicking on the insert URL icon



and attempting to copy & paste the imdb url into it but it won't paste - What am I doing wrong ?- I'm sure this was what I did before!?
Help!

Thanks tim

EDIT - I THINK I@VE SORTED IT

:cheers: :circle:

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 5:01 pm
by timshelboy
joachimt wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 3:49 pm
timshelboy wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 2:46 pm
11) AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
This is 1971.

Also, don't forget to add urls.
:cheers: Thanks for reminder and correction

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 12th, 2019, 9:02 am
by perceval
01 Solaris
02 Red Psalm
03 Hapax Legomena II: Poetic Justice
04 Inca Light
05 My Childhood

06 We Won't Grow Old Together
07 Love in the Afternoon
08 Threshold
09 Aguirre
10 Vertical Roll

11 Der Tod der Maria Malibran
12 The Riddle of Lumen
13 Reminiscences of a Journey to Lithuania
14 Morning Schedule
15 Mirror of Illusion

16 The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant
17 The Other Side of the Underneath
18 Whitchurch Down (Duration)
19 The Woman Who Powders Herself
20 Ecstasy of the Angels

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 12th, 2019, 1:57 pm
by cinewest

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 6:45 am
by MoTH
Ranked list:

1. Solyaris / Solaris (Andrei Tarkovsky)
2. Die bitteren Tränen der Petra von Kant / The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
3. Le Charme discret de la bourgeoisie / The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoise (Luis Buñuel)
4. The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola)
5. Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes / Aguirre the Wrath of God (Werner Herzog)
6. Shinobugawa / The Long Darkness (Kei Kumai)
7. Maya Darpan / Mirror of Illusion (Kumar Shahani)
8. Nous ne vieillirons pas ensemble / We Won't Grow Old Together (Maurice Pialat)
9. Acht Stunden sind kein Tag / Eight Hours Don't Make a Day (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
10. Viskningar och rop / Cries and Whispers (Ingmar Bergman)
11. Kozijat Rog / The Goat Horn (Metodi Andonov)
12. Ultimo tango a Parigi / Last Tango in Paris (Bernardo Bertolucci)
13. L'età di Cosimo de Medici / The Age of the Medici (Roberto Rossellini)
14. Out 1: Spectre (Jacques Rivette)
15. Reminiscences of a Journey to Lithuania (Jonas Mekas)
16. To proxenio tis Annas / The Engagement of Anna (Pantelis Voulgaris)
17. Händler der vier Jahreszeiten / The Merchant of Four Seasons (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
18. The Other Side of the Underneath (Jane Arden)
19. Még kér a nép / Red Psalm (Miklós Jancsó)
20. La cicatrice intérieure / The Inner Scar (Philippe Garrel)

Films viewed for poll: And Don't Tell Me Wendy, And Give My Love to the Swallows, The Canterbury Tales, Cousin Jules, Downpour, The Dupes, Eight Hours Don't Make a Day, The Engagement of Anna, Home from the Sea, Hymn, Inca Light, The Inner Scar, The Iron Crown, The Long Darkness, Ludwig - Requiem for a Virgin King, The Mattei Affair, Maya Darpan, One's Own Choice, The Other Side of the Underneath, Out 1: Spectre, Pictures of the Old World, Reminiscences of a Journey to Lithuania, Sayōnara CP, Slap the Monster on Page One, Slaughterhouse Five, We Won't Grow Old Together.



Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 6:50 pm
by brokenface

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 14th, 2019, 8:46 am
by Lonewolf2003
1. The Godfather
2. Solyaris
3. Ultimo tango a Parigi [Last Tango in Paris]
4. Le charme discret de la bourgeoisie [The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie]
5. Kozure Ôkami: Shinikazeni mukau ubaguruma [Lone Wolf and Cub: Baby Cart to Hades]
6. Kozure Ôkami: Sanzu no kawa no ubaguruma [Lone Wolf and Cub: Baby Cart at the River Styx]
7. Gunki hatameku motoni [Under The Fluttering Military Flag]
8. Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes [Aguirre: The Wrath of God]
9. The Getaway
10. Il grande duello [The Grand Duel]
11. Deliverance
12. My Childhood
13. Sleuth
14. The Culpepper Cattle Co
15. Play It Again, Sam
16. Milano calibro 9
17. Nous ne vieillirons pas ensemble [We Won't Grow Old Together]


Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 14th, 2019, 8:53 am
by Lonewolf2003
Everybody voting for Lone Wolf and Cub movies: :thumbsup: :cheers:

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 14th, 2019, 12:50 pm
by insomnius
This year's too good.

(unranked)

Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes / Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Werner Herzog)
La cicatrice intérieure / The Inner Scar (Philippe Garrel)
As Deusas / The Goddesses (Walter Hugo Khouri)
Dreamwood (James Broughton)
Dyn Amo (Stephen Dwoskin)
Geschichtsunterricht / History Lessons (Danièle Huillet, Jean-Marie Straub)
Hapax Legomena II: Poetic Justice (Hollis Frampton)
Horendi (Jean Rouch)
Lucifer Rising (Kenneth Anger)
Ludwig - Requiem für einen jungfräulichen König / Ludwig - Requiem for a Virgin King (Hans-Jürgen Syberberg)
The Other Side of the Underneath (Jane Arden)
Salomè (Carmelo Bene)
Solyaris / Solaris (Andrei Tarkovsky)
T-Wo-Men (Werner Nekes)
Der Tod der Maria Malibran / The Death of Maria Malibran (Werner Schroeter)
Tristan et Iseult / Tristan and Isolde (Yvan Lagrange)
Upside Down Feature (Peter Gidal)
La vallée (Barbet Schroeder)
Vertical Roll (Joan Jonas)
Zocalo (Richard Myers)

I'm schizo. Can I vote twice?Show
Alternate 20 that I also love, inspired by the genre cinema kick I've been on lately:

(unranked)

Ai nu / Intimate Confessions of a Chinese Courtesan (Yuen Chor)
Alla ricerca del piacere / Amuck (Silvio Amadio)
Arcana (Giulio Questi)
Les cauchemars naissent la nuit / Nightmares Come at Night (Jesús Franco)
Condenados a vivir / Cut-Throats Nine (Joaquín Luis Romero Marchent)
Delirio caldo / Delirium (Renato Polselli)
Hei dian / Black Tavern (Wing-Cho Yip)
Il tuo vizio è una stanza chiusa e solo io ne ho la chiave / Your Vice Is a Locked Room and Only I Have the Key (Sergio Martino)
Joshû sasori: Dai-41 zakkyo-bô / Female Prisoner Scorpion: Jailhouse 41 (Shun'ya Itô)
Konketsuji Rika / Rica (Kô Nakahira)
Kozure Ôkami: Sanzu no kawa no ubaguruma / Lone Wolf and Cub: Baby Cart at the River Styx (Kenji Misumi)
Kuai huo lin / The Delightful Forest (Cheh Chang, Hsueh Li Pao)
L'occhio nel labirinto / Eye in the Labyrinth (Mario Caiano)
Rivelazioni di un maniaco sessuale al capo della squadra mobile / So Sweet, So Dead (Roberto Bianchi Montero)
Super Fly (Gordon Parks Jr.)
Tie zhang xuan feng tui / Lady Whirlwind (Feng Huang)
Trouble Man (Ivan Dixon)
Tutti i colori del buio / All the Colors of the Dark (Sergio Martino)
Voices of Desire (Chuck Vincent)
Willi Tobler und der Untergang der 6. Flotte / Willi Tobler and the Decline of the 6th Fleet (Alexander Kluge)

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 14th, 2019, 10:52 pm
by Smoover

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 15th, 2019, 6:59 am
by sol

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 15th, 2019, 9:46 am
by MoTH
Is Kozijat rog (The Goat Horn) eligible? I see IMDb has it listed as 1971.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 15th, 2019, 2:35 pm
by OldAle1
No time for anything fancy this time -

1. Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes (Werner Herzog)
2. Solyaris (Andrei Tarkovsky)
3. Ragbar (Bahram Beizai)
4. The Heartbreak Kid (Elaine May)
5. Lucifer Rising (Kenneth Anger)
6. Reminiscences of a Journey to Lithuania (Jonas Mekas)

7. Out 1: Spectre (Jacques Rivette)
8. Across 110th Street (Barry Shear)
9. Inca Light (Robert Fulton)
10. Aramesh dar Hozur Deegarden (Naser Taghvai)
11. P mesle pelican (Parviz Kimiavi)
12. Chakra (Jordan Belson)
13. Meditation (Jordan Belson)
14. La noche del terror ciego (Armando de Ossorio)
15. What's Up Doc? (Peter Bogdanovich)
16. Wind Vane (Chris Welsby)
17. Fat City (John Huston)
18. Pink Flamingos (John Waters)
19. Our Lady of the Sphere (Larry Jordan)
20. Frenzy (Alfred Hitchcock)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068182/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069293/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067649/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068687/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066019/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069172/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066192/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068168/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8865530/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069727/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206994/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068353/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067415/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067500/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069495/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1827589/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068575/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069089/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0305934/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068611/reference

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 15th, 2019, 3:13 pm
by gromit82
MoTH wrote:
June 15th, 2019, 9:46 am
Is Kozijat rog (The Goat Horn) eligible? I see IMDb has it listed as 1971.
Unless anyone objects, I'll allow it into this poll.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 15th, 2019, 3:26 pm
by joachimt
gromit82 wrote:
June 15th, 2019, 3:13 pm
MoTH wrote:
June 15th, 2019, 9:46 am
Is Kozijat rog (The Goat Horn) eligible? I see IMDb has it listed as 1971.
Unless anyone objects, I'll allow it into this poll.
Why would you allow it?

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 15th, 2019, 4:21 pm
by gromit82
joachimt wrote:
June 15th, 2019, 3:26 pm
gromit82 wrote:
June 15th, 2019, 3:13 pm
MoTH wrote:
June 15th, 2019, 9:46 am
Is Kozijat rog (The Goat Horn) eligible? I see IMDb has it listed as 1971.
Unless anyone objects, I'll allow it into this poll.
Why would you allow it?
I'll take that as an objection. Anyone with evidence either way should provide it here.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 15th, 2019, 5:47 pm
by MoTH
ČSFD.cz, Variety, Eastern European Film Bulletin, MUBI, Wikipedia, BFI, Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide and every other reference book I can find in my (smallish) library or online say 1972. Variety specifically says 16 August 1972.
IMDb and iCheckMovies.com say 1971. IMDb specifically says 5 October 1971.
I can't verify that either date is correct.

I've resubmitted the date to IMDb based on Fergenaprido's information below.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 16th, 2019, 8:46 pm
by Opio

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 16th, 2019, 9:46 pm
by Rufus-T

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 17th, 2019, 5:35 pm
by Fergenaprido
MoTH wrote:
June 15th, 2019, 5:47 pm
ČSFD.cz, Variety, Eastern European Film Bulletin, MUBI, Wikipedia, BFI, Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide and every other reference book I can find in my (smallish) library or online say 1972. Variety specifically says 16 August 1972.
IMDb and iCheckMovies.com say 1971. IMDb specifically says 5 October 1971.
I can't verify that either date is correct.
It used to be 1972 on imdb, but was changed to 1971 within the last 18 months (I don't remember exactly when, but it's 1972 in my spreadsheet from when I added it a few years ago).

I feel like this film came up before on this board. On imdb there is a release for October 5th 1972 for Hungary, and October 5th 1971 for Bulgaria. I honestly think the 1971 date is a typo. Andonov had another film released in the first half of 1971, and while it's not unheard of, it's not common for directors to have two films released in one year.

That being said, I checked out the Bulgarian wikipedia (which lists 1972) and looked for Bulgarian sources.
http://kino.dir.bg/film.php?id=2005 lists 1971, giving the October date, but this looks like another user-edited site like imdb
http://bnf.bg/bg/odeon/movies/1255/ also lists 1971, and looks more official as it's the Bulgarian National Film Library.

However

Both sites list the first festival awards from 1972 (Varna and Karlovy Vary).
Looking at the Varna film Festival (Zlatna Roza/Golden Rose), you can see the festival takes place in the fall each year in September/October.

Looking at the Awards on imdb we can see that it won the Audience Award and a Special Jury award in 1972.
Double checking in the archive available on the Zlatna Roza site (which unfortunately only lists the main winner, not all the winners, for earlier years), you can see that the 1972 festival has Nakovalnya ili chuk as the winner of Best Film in 1972 (which is corroborated on imdb).

If the film screened at the Varna festival in 1972, winning (at least) two awards, and the festival takes places in late September/early October, I find the October 5th, 1972 release date as the most logical, and thus the year should be 1972. Having a film released generally in the country, and then being shown at a prominent film festival a year later in the same country, seems highly unlikely.

If anyone here speaks Bulgarian, they may be able find more accurate information than I can (Mario might be our best bet as a Serbian speaker).

A rudimentary Bulgarian search turned up three relevant links that all seem to lead to 1972, the most important of which is this one:
https://www.24chasa.bg/novini/article/4805206
There, it says (via Google Translate) that the film was released on February 14th, 1972, and reiterates that it won the Golden Rose for audience award the same year as Nakovalnya ili chuk.
(The other two articles are https://btvnovinite.bg/lifestyle/43-god ... arite.html and https://lykutin.blogspot.com/2011/ [or https://lykutin.blogspot.com/2011/09/50.html if the other link doesn't work])

Lastly, it was also Bulgaria's submission for the Foreign Language Oscar in 1972 (for the ceremony in 1973 for films released in 1972)


TL;DR = It should be 1972

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 17th, 2019, 5:46 pm
by Fergenaprido

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 17th, 2019, 7:41 pm
by joachimt
Thanks for the info, Fergy. I'd suggest you submit it to IMDb and get it changed to 1972. Seems to make sense.

Re: Year by Year Polls: 1972

Posted: June 17th, 2019, 7:59 pm
by cayado-coro
Alphabetically:
Across 110th Street (Shear)
The Adventures of Pinocchio (Comencini)
Avanti! (Wilder)
The Carey Treatment (Edwards)
Dirty Money (Melville)
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (Buñuel)
Don't Torture a Duckling (Fulci)
The Dupes (Saleh)
The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man-in-the-Moon Marigolds (Newman)
Eight Deadly Shots (Niskanen)
Fat City (Huston)
Frenzy (Hitchcock)
Indian Summer (Zurlini)
Lone Wolf and Cub: Sword of Vengeance (Misumi)
Love in the Afternoon (Rohmer)
The New Centurions (Fleischer)
Ruslan and Ludmila (Ptushko)
Sleuth (Mankiewicz)
Ulzana's Raid (Aldrich)
We Won't Grow Old Together (Pialat)
(The Godfather and Solaris do not seem to need my support)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067900
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068168
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068205
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068240
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068337
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068361
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068528
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068575
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068611
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068815
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068899
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068997
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069019
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069027
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069120
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069281
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069436
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137863
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0174174
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7672310