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Re: Doubling the Canon 2019 Update - Phase I: Nominations

#121

Post by sol » February 24th, 2019, 11:54 am

Ebbywebby wrote:
February 23rd, 2019, 6:34 am
Huh. Hadn't heard of "Dr. Plonk" before. Sounds like something I'd watch.
Oh, please do! :D 72a is a fan too, if that helps to know.

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Post by matthewscott8 » February 24th, 2019, 11:58 am

sol wrote:
February 17th, 2019, 10:53 am
King Rat (1965, Bryan Forbes) iCM link

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:ICM: Eligible for February Official Challenge - Oscar nominees
:ICM: Eligible for March Official Challenge - War
:ICM: Eligible for the next 500<400 update
:ICM: Oscar Nominee: Best Cinematography
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Thanks for this, I checked it out, what a treasure! (Fyi I had already seen The Long and The Short and The Tall, also a fine film).

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Post by sol » February 24th, 2019, 12:07 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
February 24th, 2019, 11:58 am
sol wrote:
February 17th, 2019, 10:53 am
King Rat (1965, Bryan Forbes) iCM link

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:ICM: Eligible for February Official Challenge - Oscar nominees
:ICM: Eligible for March Official Challenge - War
:ICM: Eligible for the next 500<400 update
:ICM: Oscar Nominee: Best Cinematography
:ICM: Favs/checks ratio: 9.5%
Thanks for this, I checked it out, what a treasure! (Fyi I had already seen The Long and The Short and The Tall, also a fine film).
:woot: Awesome news; thanks for letting me know! :thumbsup: I don't know if you participate in the 500<400 exercise, but the film could definitely do with the extra points were you to add it to your ballot there.

Yep - great film and superb George Segal performance. Bryan Forbes was an awesome director in his heyday. I know you're a big fan of Deadfall, which received a 6 from me last time that you nominated for the DTC. Oh, and great to find someone else who has seen The Long and The Short and The Tall. As you can probably tell, I'm a big fan of these Sam Fuller-like war movies that focus more on the characters than any wartime action around them. :D
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#125

Post by Angel Glez » February 24th, 2019, 2:59 pm

Lobo López's 12:
The Last Flight (William Dieterle, 1931)
Over the Hill (Henry King, 1931)
Today We Live (Howard Hawks, 1933)
Steamboat Round the Bend (John Ford, 1935)
Opfergang (Veit Harlan, 1944)
In jenen Tagen (Helmut Käutner, 1947)
Omokage (Gosho Heinosuke, 1948)
I Love Melvin (Don Weis, 1953)
Shiinomi gakuen (Shimizu Hiroshi, 1955)
The Man from Laramie (Anthony Mann, 1955)
Fort Massacre (Joseph M. Newman, 1958)
Morir... dormir... tal vez soñar (Manuel Mur Oti, 1975)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022054
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022241
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0024675
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027042
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037154
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039490
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040663
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045899
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2514174
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048342
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051629
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074918

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#126

Post by filmbantha » February 24th, 2019, 3:55 pm

It's great looking through everyone's nominations, so many intriguing films that I'm looking forward to watching before the voting stage.

Pleased to see someone has nominated Images (1972). I nominated it last year and it got pretty close, fingers crossed it gets the push it needs this year. Here's my first of a few shameless plugs like Onderhond if you are curious :)(Images). I was considering nominating A visitor to a museum but someone has beaten me to it. It's a stunning sci-fi by Konstantin Lopushanskiy who was the Production Assistant on Tarkovsky's Stalker and boy does it show, hopeful that it does well too (A Visitor to a Museum)

Here are my nominations. A few from last year that didn't quite make it but got pretty close, some worthy contenders currently on 0 official lists and some personal favourites of mine that I feel deserve more exposure and would be welcome additions to the DTC:

Peppermint Candy - With the popularity of Burning, I'm hoping a few more people will be curious to explore Lee Chang-Dong's back catalogue, this being my personal highlight. (Peppermint Candy)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247613

The Incident (1967) (The Incident)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061814/

Metro Manila
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1845838/

Ex Drummer
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0812243

L'ordre et la Morale - This scored a 4.67 last year but sadly didn't have enough voters. A stunning film by Mathieu Kassovitz who directed La Haine.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242521

Truman
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3754940

Le Passe
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2404461

The Stoning of Soraya M
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1277737

Ladybird Ladybird (Ladybird Ladybird)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110296

The War Zone (The War Zone)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141974

Klass
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0988108

El Incidente (El Incidente)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3528756


Backups:

A Bittersweet life
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0456912

Polytechnique
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1194238

Sin Nombre
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1127715

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#127

Post by sacmersault » February 24th, 2019, 10:23 pm

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
February 23rd, 2019, 6:21 am
sacmersault wrote:
February 23rd, 2019, 3:20 am
Question:

In the first post here it says that the deadline is March 18th, but in the top of the homepage it says DtC Nominations (Feb. 28th). Which is it?
18th fixed the header.
Thanks for the clarification. I was worried I wouldn't make it in time

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Post by jdidaco » February 24th, 2019, 10:32 pm

Thanks Angel for handling the DtC once more, and PeacefulAnarchy for all the help - :cheers:

Behind the Door (Irvin Willat, 1919) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0009915/reference
Dokuro (Skull, Sentarô Shirai, 1927) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0943415/reference
Die andere Seite (The Other Side, Heinz Paul, 1931) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021609/reference
Au nom de la loi (In the Name of the Law, Maurice Tourneur, 1932) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022645/reference
The Rugged Island: A Shetland Lyric (Jenny Gilbertson (Brown), 1934) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419101/reference
Mashenka (Yuli Raizman, 1942) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035044/reference (adopted)
La foire aux chimères (Devil and the Angel, Pierre Chenal, 1946) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0184483/reference
La fumeria d'oppio (Raffaello Matarazzo, 1947) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039403/reference
Un homme marche dans la ville (A Man Walks in the City, Marcello Pagliero, 1950) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042003/reference
La neige était sale (Stain on the Snow, Luis Saslavsky, 1954) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0143764/reference
Le sette sfide (The Seven Revenges, Primo Zeglio, 1961) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062254/reference
Quelque part quelqu'un (Somewhere, Someone, Yannick Bellon, 1972) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069145/reference

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#129

Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 24th, 2019, 11:04 pm

Imdb and ICM noms lists updated to this post. Currently at 30 full nominations slates and 3 partial.
Nominations added to the unofficial imdb list:
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls043489375/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/dtc+ ... ulanarchy/
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Perception de Ambiguity
Carmel1379
zhangalan
Ivan0716
XxXApathy420XxX
72allinncallme
rnilsson19
beavis
albajos
sebby
joachimt
St. Gloede
cinephage
RBG
beasterne
matthewscott8
tourdesb
PGonzalez
Opio
Eve-Lang-El-Coup
Jimi Antiloop
monclivie
RogerTheMovieManiac88
jvv
Nathan Treadway
Onderhond
insomnius
Lobo López
filmbantha
jdidaco

Partial:
Sol 6
nimimerkillinen 5
toromash 10

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#130

Post by Cocoa » February 25th, 2019, 12:30 am

My nominations:
Dobro pozhalovat, ili Postoronnim vkhod vospreshchen (1964) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058022/
Lions Love (1969) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064591/
Winter Soldier (1972) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204058/
Ashani Sanket (1973) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069737/
Tien ya ming yue dao (1976) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075329/
Ganashatru (1989) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097409/
Suture (1993) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108260/
Waco: The Rules of Engagement (1997) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120472/
Bound by Flesh (2012) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2357003/
What Maisie Knew (2012) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1932767/
Busanhaeng (2016) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5700672/
Laissez bronzer les cadavres (2017) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5827212/

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#131

Post by frbrown » February 25th, 2019, 2:52 am

PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
February 24th, 2019, 11:04 pm
Imdb and ICM noms lists updated to this post. Currently at 30 full nominations slates and 3 partial.
Nominations added to the unofficial imdb list:
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls043489375/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/dtc+ ... ulanarchy/
30+3Show
Perception de Ambiguity
Carmel1379
zhangalan
Ivan0716
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72allinncallme
rnilsson19
beavis
albajos
sebby
joachimt
St. Gloede
cinephage
RBG
beasterne
matthewscott8
tourdesb
PGonzalez
Opio
Eve-Lang-El-Coup
Jimi Antiloop
monclivie
RogerTheMovieManiac88
jvv
Nathan Treadway
Onderhond
insomnius
Lobo López
filmbantha
jdidaco

Partial:
Sol 6
nimimerkillinen 5
toromash 10


Are you adding the nominations from SCFZ?

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#132

Post by sebby » February 25th, 2019, 2:54 am

Angel Glez wrote:
February 24th, 2019, 10:32 am
sebby wrote:
February 18th, 2019, 10:24 pm
Angel Glez wrote:
February 18th, 2019, 8:45 pm

DtC #483 and holdover, respectively.

Then Song of sparrows and Robert Frost a lover's quarrel with the world?
shit, i think i may have even nominated birthplace last year.

but yeah, replace with sparrows and frost.
And Black Roots is another holdover so I'll take Do widzenia, do jutra...
actually can you replace it with Hundertwassers Regentag https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067222/?ref_=rt_li_tt ?

had forgotten do widzenia is on 2 lists already and would rather nominate an unofficial film.

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#133

Post by Angel Glez » February 25th, 2019, 11:30 am

jdidaco wrote:
February 24th, 2019, 10:32 pm
Mashenka (Yuli Raizman, 1942) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035044/reference (adopted)
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#134

Post by Angel Glez » February 25th, 2019, 11:31 am

sebby wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 2:54 am
Angel Glez wrote:
February 24th, 2019, 10:32 am
sebby wrote:
February 18th, 2019, 10:24 pm


shit, i think i may have even nominated birthplace last year.

but yeah, replace with sparrows and frost.
And Black Roots is another holdover so I'll take Do widzenia, do jutra...
actually can you replace it with Hundertwassers Regentag https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067222/?ref_=rt_li_tt ?

had forgotten do widzenia is on 2 lists already and would rather nominate an unofficial film.
Done.

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#135

Post by Angel Glez » February 25th, 2019, 12:04 pm

frbrown wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 2:52 am
PeacefulAnarchy wrote:
February 24th, 2019, 11:04 pm
Imdb and ICM noms lists updated to this post. Currently at 30 full nominations slates and 3 partial.
Nominations added to the unofficial imdb list:
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls043489375/
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/dtc+ ... ulanarchy/
30+3Show
Perception de Ambiguity
Carmel1379
zhangalan
Ivan0716
XxXApathy420XxX
72allinncallme
rnilsson19
beavis
albajos
sebby
joachimt
St. Gloede
cinephage
RBG
beasterne
matthewscott8
tourdesb
PGonzalez
Opio
Eve-Lang-El-Coup
Jimi Antiloop
monclivie
RogerTheMovieManiac88
jvv
Nathan Treadway
Onderhond
insomnius
Lobo López
filmbantha
jdidaco

Partial:
Sol 6
nimimerkillinen 5
toromash 10


Are you adding the nominations from SCFZ?
I hope not to forget anyone:

twodeadmagpies
A Vingança de Uma Mulher [A Woman's Revenge] (2012)
A Woman of Affairs (1928)
Bei kao bei, lian dui lian [Back to Back, Face to Face] (1994)
Fjols til fjells [Fools in the Mountains] (1957)
Hudutlarin Kanunu [Law of the Border] (1966)
Kukuli (1961)
Majstori, majstori! [All That Jack's] (1980)
Os Lobos [The Wolves] (1923)
Sayehaye bolande bad [Tall Shadows of the Wind] (1979)
Tatlong taong walang Diyos [Three Years Without God] (1976)
Tonka Sibenice [Tonka of the Gallows] (1930)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2050453/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0019591/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109235/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050398/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0261739/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133904/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081104/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0014207/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320423/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0125537/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021484/reference

thoxans
A Poem Is a Naked Person (1974)
Dopperugengâ [Doppelganger] (2003)
Heisei tanuki gassen ponpoko [Pom Poko] (1994)
Iguana (1988)
My Childhood (1972)
Om Shanti Om (2007)
Sleepaway Camp (1983)
Smile (1975)
Starman (1984)
The Blackout (1997)
The Boy in the Plastic Bubble (1976)
Two for the Road (1967)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424359/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0403990/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110008/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095354/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068983/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1024943/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086320/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073722/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088172/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118734/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074236/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062407/reference

ofrene
3 Godfathers (1948)
Inquietude [Anxiety] (1998)
La Femme Infidèle [The Unfaithful Wife] (1969)
L'une chante l'autre pas [One Sings, the Other Doesn't] (1977)
Mikey and Nicky (1976)
Nagareru [Flowing] (1956)
Ohikkoshi [Moving] (1993)
On Dangerous Ground (1951)
Running on Empty (1988)
The Gang's All Here (1943)
Videogramme einer Revolution [Videograms of a Revolution] (1992)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040064/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120712/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064323/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076855/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074901/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049537/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107736/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043879/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096018/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035916/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108489/reference

flip
Das Goldene Tor [The Golden Gate] (1992)
Decision Before Dawn (1951)
Downstairs (1932)
Hi Diddle Diddle (1943)
Le collier perdu de la colombe [The Dove's Lost Necklace] (1991)
Les risques du métier [Risky Business] (1967)
Mutum (2007)
Osobennosti natsionalnoy okhoty [Peculiarities of the National Hunt] (1995)
Sanam (2000)
Spring Parade (1940)
The Quiet Gun (1957)
The Web (1947)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5179800/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043459/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022834/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035996/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101600/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062204/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848596/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114055/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254749/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033095/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050874/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039973/reference

karl
Gaebyeok [Fly High Run Far] (1991)
Guan yu ai de gu shi [Common People] (1998)
La maternelle [Children of Montmartre] (1933)
Me, bebia, Iliko da Ilarioni [Me, Grandma, Iliko and Ilarion] (1962)
Merlusse (1935)
Robin Hood of El Dorado (1936)
S.V.D. - Soyuz velikogo dela [The Club of the Big Deed] (1927)
Sovist [Conscience] (1968)
The Sound of Fury (1950)
Una pelea cubana contra los demonios [A Cuban Fight Against Demons] (1972)
Vem dömer [Love's Crucible] (1922)
Xiao Bi de gu shi [Growing Up] (1983)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104586/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0177648/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0024310/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057695/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0026703/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0028197/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020353/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5077846/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043075/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067563/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0013730/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085695/reference
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Post by tobias » February 25th, 2019, 12:47 pm

Sorcerer (1977)
Isn't that one auto-included because it fell of TSPDT?

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Post by Angel Glez » February 25th, 2019, 2:15 pm

tobias wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 12:47 pm
Sorcerer (1977)
Isn't that one auto-included because it fell of TSPDT?
You're right.

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Post by hurluberlu » February 25th, 2019, 9:43 pm

Art of Memory (1987)
La folie Almayer [Almayer's Folly] (2011)
À l'ombre de la canaille bleue [In the Shadow of the Blue Rascal] (1986)
Al-ard [The Land] (1969)
Le monde sans soleil [World Without Sun] (1964)
Hitokiri (1969)
L'Amour à la Mer [Love at Sea] (1964)
Les Rois Maudits (1972)
Section Spéciale [Special Section] (1975)
Shônen [Boy] (1969)
Komissar [The Commissar] (1967)
La 317ème section [The 317th Platoon] (1965)

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Post by Angel Glez » February 26th, 2019, 9:53 am

hurluberlu wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 9:43 pm
À l'ombre de la canaille bleue [In the Shadow of the Blue Rascal] (1986)
Already nominated. ;)


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Post by hurluberlu » February 26th, 2019, 7:26 pm

Angel Glez wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 9:53 am
hurluberlu wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 9:43 pm
À l'ombre de la canaille bleue [In the Shadow of the Blue Rascal] (1986)
Already nominated. ;)
WHaaaat, who stole my baby ? who ? Five years I have been nurturing it and now it is ready, gone !

I don't feel like replacing it just now. :pinch:
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Post by St. Gloede » February 26th, 2019, 8:01 pm

hurluberlu wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 7:26 pm
Angel Glez wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 9:53 am
hurluberlu wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 9:43 pm
À l'ombre de la canaille bleue [In the Shadow of the Blue Rascal] (1986)
Already nominated. ;)
WHaaaat, who stole my baby ? who ? Five years I have been nurturing it and now it is ready, gone !

I don't feel like replacing it just now. :pinch:
I am the guilty party.

If you want to swap feel free to nominate Heroic Purgatory or La Belle Captive ;)

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Post by hurluberlu » February 26th, 2019, 8:38 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 8:01 pm
hurluberlu wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 7:26 pm
Angel Glez wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 9:53 am

Already nominated. ;)
WHaaaat, who stole my baby ? who ? Five years I have been nurturing it and now it is ready, gone !

I don't feel like replacing it just now. :pinch:
I am the guilty party.

If you want to swap feel free to nominate Heroic Purgatory or La Belle Captive ;)
Nah, I wont let go one of my other babies, you take good care of it ! ^_^

Btw, not that I am a big fan anyway but La Belle Captive has only a slim chance, too low with too many votes already.
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Post by Angel Glez » February 26th, 2019, 8:50 pm

arno74mm wrote:
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Best regards,
arno74mm :ICM:
Spanish mafia? I'm not familiar with your nickname, do I know you from somewhere? I work as preacher in other places. :whistling:

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Post by rnilsson19 » February 26th, 2019, 9:50 pm

I'm hoping this is the year Pierre Clémenti finally joins the canon, with Blue Rascal or Visa de censure n°X, preferably both!

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Post by St. Gloede » February 26th, 2019, 11:53 pm

hurluberlu wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 8:38 pm
St. Gloede wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 8:01 pm
hurluberlu wrote:
February 26th, 2019, 7:26 pm


WHaaaat, who stole my baby ? who ? Five years I have been nurturing it and now it is ready, gone !

I don't feel like replacing it just now. :pinch:
I am the guilty party.

If you want to swap feel free to nominate Heroic Purgatory or La Belle Captive ;)
Nah, I wont let go one of my other babies, you take good care of it ! ^_^

Btw, not that I am a big fan anyway but La Belle Captive has only a slim chance, too low with too many votes already.
Can't blame you there, and yes, it is a pretty hopeless cause - well, I tried. :D

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Post by OldAle1 » February 27th, 2019, 1:01 am

Where did the huge Robbe-Grillet mafia from IMDb a decade ago disappear to? I wasn't part of it but I wanted to be at the time, sort of. Now I've seen a few and I'm not so sure but those other guys are out there somewhere right? He seemed to be FG's Arthouse Director du jour or maybe d'année.

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Post by Ebbywebby » February 27th, 2019, 1:26 am

I'd join!

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Post by St. Gloede » February 27th, 2019, 6:39 am

OldAle1 wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 1:01 am
Where did the huge Robbe-Grillet mafia from IMDb a decade ago disappear to? I wasn't part of it but I wanted to be at the time, sort of. Now I've seen a few and I'm not so sure but those other guys are out there somewhere right? He seemed to be FG's Arthouse Director du jour or maybe d'année.
Scott got over him (somewhat), and I think most are elsewhere. :unsure:

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Post by matthewscott8 » February 27th, 2019, 10:50 am

St. Gloede wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 6:39 am
OldAle1 wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 1:01 am
Where did the huge Robbe-Grillet mafia from IMDb a decade ago disappear to? I wasn't part of it but I wanted to be at the time, sort of. Now I've seen a few and I'm not so sure but those other guys are out there somewhere right? He seemed to be FG's Arthouse Director du jour or maybe d'année.
Scott got over him (somewhat), and I think most are elsewhere. :unsure:
Well, I'm here :woot: films containing images of tortured women probably aren't shouted about as much these days to be fair. I guess as I've become more sensitive I wouldn't champion Trans-Europ-Express. However I still get all woozy over L'Homme quit ment (doesn't have those problems, and I love stuff about self-deceiving deceivers). There's no way I can deny the feeling I got leaving the cinema after Eden and After, which is still in my top 10 films. I think the FG3 crowd defo got a bit difficult about sexualised murder, I remember taking flak for having Suspiria in my top list. James Ellroy defined a term "the wonder" in his early novel "Clandestine", and which is found in profusion in his later novels, particularly the famous LA quartet. Wonder is an ecstatic fascination with the extent of the primal depravity of others. I definitely have this.

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Post by cayh » February 27th, 2019, 11:51 am

My nominations:
Mandariinid (2013)
The Silent Partner (1978)
Ragtime (1981)
Happî awâ (2015)
Zhong hua zhang fu (1978)
Jigoku de naze warui (2013)
Lan tou He (1976)
Sweet Country (2017)
Busanhaeng (2016)
Swiss Army Man (2016)
Sunset Song (2015)
Thelma (2017)

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Post by St. Gloede » February 27th, 2019, 1:54 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 10:50 am
St. Gloede wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 6:39 am
OldAle1 wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 1:01 am
Where did the huge Robbe-Grillet mafia from IMDb a decade ago disappear to? I wasn't part of it but I wanted to be at the time, sort of. Now I've seen a few and I'm not so sure but those other guys are out there somewhere right? He seemed to be FG's Arthouse Director du jour or maybe d'année.
Scott got over him (somewhat), and I think most are elsewhere. :unsure:
Well, I'm here :woot: films containing images of tortured women probably aren't shouted about as much these days to be fair. I guess as I've become more sensitive I wouldn't champion Trans-Europ-Express. However I still get all woozy over L'Homme quit ment (doesn't have those problems, and I love stuff about self-deceiving deceivers). There's no way I can deny the feeling I got leaving the cinema after Eden and After, which is still in my top 10 films. I think the FG3 crowd defo got a bit difficult about sexualised murder, I remember taking flak for having Suspiria in my top list. James Ellroy defined a term "the wonder" in his early novel "Clandestine", and which is found in profusion in his later novels, particularly the famous LA quartet. Wonder is an ecstatic fascination with the extent of the primal depravity of others. I definitely have this.
To be honest this brand of hyper-stylistic sexualization of violence has never bothered me - though of course it depends on execution, and I can see why it would take people out of the films or make them appreciate them less. I have been in discussions with people where the passivity of the characters, especially of the women (for instance in Eden and After, the women in the cages).In films like this, where you are meant to be supplanted into a surreal dream, these kinds of clear discrepancies to reality adds to the atmosphere in a positive way for me, and does not cross any kind of moral line. But I do understand that you and others may see it in a slightly different light, and I am very open to arguments that this may continue or delve into not too positive views/ideas concerning genders (though this would likely not change how much I appreciate the films - though learning the context that Robbe-Grillet was active in the S&M community and that his wife is/was a leading dominatrix in France did to a slight extent change to how I view why/how certain things were done - where I was not reading into this part of the psychological motivation behind the films).

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Post by Angel Glez » February 27th, 2019, 7:45 pm

hurluberlu wrote:
February 25th, 2019, 9:43 pm
Al-ard [The Land] (1969)
cayh wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 11:51 am
The Silent Partner (1978)
Adoptions, adoptions! The host is being pampered this year. :)

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Post by matthewscott8 » February 27th, 2019, 7:46 pm

St. Gloede wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 1:54 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 10:50 am
St. Gloede wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 6:39 am


Scott got over him (somewhat), and I think most are elsewhere. :unsure:
Well, I'm here :woot: films containing images of tortured women probably aren't shouted about as much these days to be fair. I guess as I've become more sensitive I wouldn't champion Trans-Europ-Express. However I still get all woozy over L'Homme quit ment (doesn't have those problems, and I love stuff about self-deceiving deceivers). There's no way I can deny the feeling I got leaving the cinema after Eden and After, which is still in my top 10 films. I think the FG3 crowd defo got a bit difficult about sexualised murder, I remember taking flak for having Suspiria in my top list. James Ellroy defined a term "the wonder" in his early novel "Clandestine", and which is found in profusion in his later novels, particularly the famous LA quartet. Wonder is an ecstatic fascination with the extent of the primal depravity of others. I definitely have this.
To be honest this brand of hyper-stylistic sexualization of violence has never bothered me - though of course it depends on execution, and I can see why it would take people out of the films or make them appreciate them less. I have been in discussions with people where the passivity of the characters, especially of the women (for instance in Eden and After, the women in the cages).In films like this, where you are meant to be supplanted into a surreal dream, these kinds of clear discrepancies to reality adds to the atmosphere in a positive way for me, and does not cross any kind of moral line. But I do understand that you and others may see it in a slightly different light, and I am very open to arguments that this may continue or delve into not too positive views/ideas concerning genders (though this would likely not change how much I appreciate the films - though learning the context that Robbe-Grillet was active in the S&M community and that his wife is/was a leading dominatrix in France did to a slight extent change to how I view why/how certain things were done - where I was not reading into this part of the psychological motivation behind the films).
Yeah they were both big on S&M, this is really explicit in his film Gradiva, which is didactic on the subject at points. Eden and After clearly contextualises everything that happens as being the result of taking a drug, "poudre de peur". I agree it doesn't cross any moral lines. I think we should also be clear that men and women are drawn like flies to negative situations for themselves, I have often found women who it would be extremely inappropriate for me to be in a relationship with highly attractive, we've got Alain de Botton pointing out that when people choose relationships the characteristic they look for is "familiar suffering", Sylvia Plath pointing out, "every woman loves a fascist", we've got women queuing up to marry jailed serial killers, women travelling to Syria to be abused. Humans are pretty dark and messed up, I think as part of the political correct whitewash we've tried to pretend none of that exists. For everyone who dreams of being abused, there are those who dream of abusing, and I have no interest in shying away from that stuff. I find the crazy stuff people get up to intensely fascinating.

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Post by Wille » February 27th, 2019, 8:52 pm

2019 nominations:
L'acadie, l'Acadie (1971)
Duminica la ora 6 (1966)
El gallo de oro [The Golden Cockerel] (1964)
Ejercicios de memoria (2016)
Nainsukh (2010)
Peter Ibbetson (1935)
Sangatsu no raion [March Comes in Like a Lion] (1991)
Schuss! (2006)
Signers Koffer - Unterwegs mit Roman Signer (1995)
Työmiehen päiväkirja [The Diary of a Worker] (1967)
The Long Voyage Home (1940)
Zaseda [The Ambush] (1969)

Holdovers from 2018:
Babel - lettre à mes amis restés en Belgique [Babel - A Letter to My Friends Left Behind in Belgium] (1991)
Boerensymfonie [Symphonie paysanne] (1944)
Mahlzeiten [Lust for Love] (1967)
Autrement, la Molussie [Differently, Molussia] (2012)
Pourquoi Israel [Israel, Why] (1973)
Room Film 1973 (1973)

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Post by Angel Glez » February 28th, 2019, 10:00 am

cayh wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 11:51 am
Busanhaeng (2016)
Already nominated. One free slot if you wish.

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Post by pitchorneirda » February 28th, 2019, 1:35 pm

Hello guys, I'm rather new here and I'm trying to figure out how this works.

I've looked at the list of DtC nominations published by PeacefulAnarchy (https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/dtc+ ... ulanarchy/) and for example, among the films I've seen recently, The Pawnbroker (1964), Cops (1922), Rapt [The Kidnapping] (1934), Sib [The Apple] (1998), La Promesse (1996), etc. are all already in the DtC official list.
Are all these movies old entries from 2014 that are going to be revoted ? If not, why can they be nominated?

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Post by St. Gloede » February 28th, 2019, 2:40 pm

matthewscott8 wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 7:46 pm
St. Gloede wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 1:54 pm
matthewscott8 wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 10:50 am
Well, I'm here :woot: films containing images of tortured women probably aren't shouted about as much these days to be fair. I guess as I've become more sensitive I wouldn't champion Trans-Europ-Express. However I still get all woozy over L'Homme quit ment (doesn't have those problems, and I love stuff about self-deceiving deceivers). There's no way I can deny the feeling I got leaving the cinema after Eden and After, which is still in my top 10 films. I think the FG3 crowd defo got a bit difficult about sexualised murder, I remember taking flak for having Suspiria in my top list. James Ellroy defined a term "the wonder" in his early novel "Clandestine", and which is found in profusion in his later novels, particularly the famous LA quartet. Wonder is an ecstatic fascination with the extent of the primal depravity of others. I definitely have this.
To be honest this brand of hyper-stylistic sexualization of violence has never bothered me - though of course it depends on execution, and I can see why it would take people out of the films or make them appreciate them less. I have been in discussions with people where the passivity of the characters, especially of the women (for instance in Eden and After, the women in the cages).In films like this, where you are meant to be supplanted into a surreal dream, these kinds of clear discrepancies to reality adds to the atmosphere in a positive way for me, and does not cross any kind of moral line. But I do understand that you and others may see it in a slightly different light, and I am very open to arguments that this may continue or delve into not too positive views/ideas concerning genders (though this would likely not change how much I appreciate the films - though learning the context that Robbe-Grillet was active in the S&M community and that his wife is/was a leading dominatrix in France did to a slight extent change to how I view why/how certain things were done - where I was not reading into this part of the psychological motivation behind the films).
Yeah they were both big on S&M, this is really explicit in his film Gradiva, which is didactic on the subject at points. Eden and After clearly contextualises everything that happens as being the result of taking a drug, "poudre de peur". I agree it doesn't cross any moral lines. I think we should also be clear that men and women are drawn like flies to negative situations for themselves, I have often found women who it would be extremely inappropriate for me to be in a relationship with highly attractive, we've got Alain de Botton pointing out that when people choose relationships the characteristic they look for is "familiar suffering", Sylvia Plath pointing out, "every woman loves a fascist", we've got women queuing up to marry jailed serial killers, women travelling to Syria to be abused. Humans are pretty dark and messed up, I think as part of the political correct whitewash we've tried to pretend none of that exists. For everyone who dreams of being abused, there are those who dream of abusing, and I have no interest in shying away from that stuff. I find the crazy stuff people get up to intensely fascinating.
I haven't really experienced this type of whitewash, but these are certainly topics people get very uncomfortable around (which makes it so interesting to explore), and people have started to pay attention to framing far more than previously (for better or worse). I think the backlash primarily comes when it is framed (or is perceived to be framed) in a way that endorses, normalizes or glorifies harmful beliefs and behavior (and what is seen to do so). What people react to, and how this reaction is voiced varies of course, and some of the reactions may be more harmful than what they are attacking, I don't want to argue against that point, but as far as I can tell you are still free to explore these topics in all their dark gritty details - but the results will (depending on topic) be under a magnifying glass (and I assume some may be scared to touch on them as they are afraid of a backlash, in which case it could be blamed on "political correctness" - and as I think we have touched on elsewhere I think that term is severely misused - but that is a massive sidenote).

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Post by Angel Glez » February 28th, 2019, 3:21 pm

pitchorneirda wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 1:35 pm
Hello guys, I'm rather new here and I'm trying to figure out how this works.

I've looked at the list of DtC nominations published by PeacefulAnarchy (https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/dtc+ ... ulanarchy/) and for example, among the films I've seen recently, The Pawnbroker (1964), Cops (1922), Rapt [The Kidnapping] (1934), Sib [The Apple] (1998), La Promesse (1996), etc. are all already in the DtC official list.
Are all these movies old entries from 2014 that are going to be revoted ? If not, why can they be nominated?
Indeed, all those titles that you mention are 5 years old entries to be revoted.

Here you can see where each nomination comes from (please note that this file is not up to date and has some errors).

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Post by pitchorneirda » February 28th, 2019, 4:46 pm

My nominations

Les enfants terribles (Melville, 1950) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042436/
Hakuchi (Kurosawa, 1951) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043614/
The Tales of Hoffmann (Powell/Pressburger, 1951) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044103/
Kyônetsu no kisetsu (Kurahara, 1960) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057238/
Histoire immortelle (Welles, 1968) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063127/
Die verlorene Ehre der Katharina Blum (Schlöndorff/von Trotta, 1975) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073858/
Kazoku gêmu (Morita, 1983) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087545/
Babettes gæstebud (Axel, 1987) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092603/
Europa (von Trier, 1991) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101829/
C'est arrivé près de chez vous (Belvaux, 1992) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103905/
Conte d'hiver (Rohmer, 1992) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104008/
Mayis Sikintisi (Ceylan, 1999) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0234217/

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