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Setting up the 2019 poll schedule

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Should the On 0 Official Lists be made annual?

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Re: Setting up the 2019 poll schedule

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Post by Lakigigar » November 7th, 2018, 1:51 pm

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
November 7th, 2018, 12:37 pm
jeff_v wrote:
November 6th, 2018, 9:34 pm
You would be an anomaly in the community then. Here's the IMDb list of ICM Forum's 1001 favorite movies, sorted by IMDb rank, lowest to highest. Only 22 movies rated lower than 7.0 on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls064916339/? ... ail&page=1
I like the idea. But we could fine tune the criteria a bit.
Biggest problem I see with this criteria and looking at those movies, is that it consist plenty of modern critically acclaimed movies, that don't resonate with the general audience (like Tree of Life), which I wouldn't call underrated. I also contains some controversial and love-or-hate movies, which I also wouldn't classify as underrated.
This. Would basically be another list of arthouse movies. There is already an unofficial list and a top 500 <400 checks list. I think it covers that well enough.

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Post by Ivan0716 » November 7th, 2018, 3:28 pm

I would be satisfied with the (Eastern+Central Europe) and (Central Asia+Caucasus) setup Fergenaprido proposed too, though personally my submissions will be very Hungarian/Czech/Polish-heavy for the former and Georgian-heavy for the latter (with nothing from Central Asian countries). On the other hand, I could provide MUCH more balanced submissions if it were Central Europe on its own and (Eastern Europe+Caucasus), but of course, that's just me, so I would be interested to hear what other people think would make the most balanced lists in terms of countries represented - if that's even a factor at all.

For the same reason, I feel pretty strongly about Russia being their own thing.

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Post by beavis » November 7th, 2018, 3:50 pm

I have delved into Central Asia cinema a bit and could come up with a list approaching decent, but a combination with Caucasus would make it bigger. Some parts of that area feel more European/Russian, but the Persian influences in other parts are comparable to the Central Asian region and i guess the Turkish people once ruled the entire area... Sometimes it is hard to distinquish all the historic influences, but there is certainly ground there to group these countries together for a movie poll :)

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Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » November 7th, 2018, 4:01 pm

Interesting discussion. I like the idea of pairing Central and Eastern Europe and Central Asia with the Caucasus.

Personally I'd love a Baltic poll at some point (over the next few years) but I would like to see more from the region beforehand and I am aware that it probably is a bit small for a poll of its own.
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Post by flaiky » November 7th, 2018, 4:16 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
November 7th, 2018, 12:59 pm
I'd like to have an LGBTQ+ poll in 2019. We had a hamfisted unofficial one in 2017, but 2019 is the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots, and we've never had an official poll on the forum. Given how successful last months Queer challenge was (despite going up against horror), I think there's enough interest and enough scope to put together a good list.
I remember that poll being open for ages, and getting the same publicity at the top of the forum as any other poll. It's included in the list index, so feels official. There were 31 voters, which isn't great but it's around the same as SE Asia and more than the African poll. I wouldn't support having it on the ballot when spots are limited and we've already got a great pool of candidates.

I generally like your suggested divisions for Europe but I still think a Central Asia & Caucasus poll would be incredibly weak. I doubt it would even get support, which would mean those countries never featuring in a poll. That's why I think it's safer to pair them with Russia. And then I come back to 'Well it might as well be a full Russia and ex-Soviet poll, and leave the Nordics on their own'.

Merging Central + Eastern Europe and then doing Russia + Central Asia could also work, agreed. But the Central Europe poll has a nice flavour on its own and generated a whole top 150. I would preference the above.
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Post by Fergenaprido » November 7th, 2018, 4:49 pm

I think part of it is that we're largely completists here, and we feel the need to have every country covered by at least one poll (at least I feel this way). We could just not poll the Baltics, Caucasus, or Central Asia if the turnout/quality of such a list would be poor. I've been thinking a lot about this the past week, actually, and I may have a proposal that would address this, but I need some more time to formulate the idea and hash it out, and I'm going on a much needed vacation next week. I'll post something before the end of the month.

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Post by Lakigigar » November 7th, 2018, 5:06 pm

Baltics should have probably been done in a Central + Eastern EU + Caucasus poll, while you could add Central Asia to Middle East (which is recently done though) or Southern Asia.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 7th, 2018, 10:24 pm

flaiky wrote:
November 7th, 2018, 4:16 pm
Fergenaprido wrote:
November 7th, 2018, 12:59 pm
I'd like to have an LGBTQ+ poll in 2019. We had a hamfisted unofficial one in 2017, but 2019 is the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots, and we've never had an official poll on the forum. Given how successful last months Queer challenge was (despite going up against horror), I think there's enough interest and enough scope to put together a good list.
I remember that poll being open for ages, and getting the same publicity at the top of the forum as any other poll. It's included in the list index, so feels official. There were 31 voters, which isn't great but it's around the same as SE Asia and more than the African poll. I wouldn't support having it on the ballot when spots are limited and we've already got a great pool of candidates.
I also don’t see a reason to do LGBTQ+ poll again already for the reasons mentioned. It’s as official as the other ones. But if others do support it being on the ballot I will add it.
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » November 7th, 2018, 10:25 pm

We should do an adult films poll tehe

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Post by rnilsson19 » November 8th, 2018, 5:30 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
November 7th, 2018, 10:25 pm
We should do an adult films poll tehe
Joking aside, I think an erotic movie poll would be appropriate, encompassing everything from sensuous drama and lewd thrillers to artistic porn films.

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Post by flaiky » November 11th, 2018, 4:40 pm

flaiky wrote:
November 5th, 2018, 9:53 pm
And I'm not sure Silents should be eligible as a repeat since the 1920s was done in 2017 and, let's face it, there will be a huge amount of duplication.
What do people think of this?
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » November 11th, 2018, 4:56 pm

flaiky wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 4:40 pm
flaiky wrote:
November 5th, 2018, 9:53 pm
And I'm not sure Silents should be eligible as a repeat since the 1920s was done in 2017 and, let's face it, there will be a huge amount of duplication.
What do people think of this?
Perhaps a pre-1920s poll instead?

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Post by OldAle1 » November 11th, 2018, 5:00 pm

How much turnout would there be for a pre-20s poll? I ran polls of early years on IMDb on the Classics Board a few years ago and really didn't get a lot of response. They were done as part of the yearly polls and those polls are generally getting about the same, or slightly fewer voters here than on the CFB; I really can't imagine an enormous turnout, and when you have a low turnout it's usually a boring usual-suspects type list that gets generated, with maybe a few vaguely surprising results at the bottom. I suppose you could say that for most polls apart from 500<400, DTC and the like but I think it'd be especially true here. Why not just do a Silent Era poll and have that replace the 1920s in the future?

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » November 11th, 2018, 5:05 pm

I feel like most lists will be empty. However, we had that case for some stuff like the African and Middle East poll. I'd probably make an exception and include films I've given 7/10 to which would make my pre-1920's list have 70 films.

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Post by OldAle1 » November 11th, 2018, 5:11 pm

Couple more thoughts/suggestions:

I like the low rating poll idea, but I'd put it at below 6.0 for some of the reasons stated already - that would remove a great many of the 'controversial" arthouse type films from consideration, e.g. Margaret, one of my favorites. Or it could be limited to films at least, say, 5 years old, or maybe pre-2010, given that IMDb ratings tend to "stabilize" over several years' time and you don't find many critically acclaimed films that are rated low from earlier eras. But at the same time I kind of hate to rely on IMDb for anything poll-related - see the musicals poll going on now for example. Just not a reliable or honest source. So maybe not such a great idea as much as I like it conceptually.

I'm probably in the extreme minority here but given that there are votes for both "disturbing" and "depressing" films why not for "happy" or "joyous" films? I suspect I'm as depressed as most people here, maybe moreso, but that doesn't mean I always want to feed my pessimism and self-loathing and fears. There ARE life-affirming films out there that aren't maudlin, saccharine or stupid.

I like the idea of every country getting a poll but as with early cinema, how many people are going to vote, how interesting are the results going to be? The southeast Asia poll was kind of a bust IMO and anything that could easily end up with smaller turnout than that one might be worth reconsidering. I suspect there are very, very few people here like Beavis who could come up with significant lists for virtually every country/region, and some of the ones who I know could don't ever participate in these polls. A central Asia poll for example would have really minimal turnout I would think.

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Post by flaiky » November 11th, 2018, 5:52 pm

OldAle1 wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 5:00 pm
Why not just do a Silent Era poll and have that replace the 1920s in the future?
I agree that's the way forward, just that it shouldn't be eligible as a 2019 poll.
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 11th, 2018, 11:02 pm

flaiky wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 5:52 pm
OldAle1 wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 5:00 pm
Why not just do a Silent Era poll and have that replace the 1920s in the future?
I agree that's the way forward, just that it shouldn't be eligible as a 2019 poll.
We will also do a 1930s poll in 2019, which also has overlap with a Silent one. So I'm inclined to take it off the ballot. Unless people are okay with doing both 1930s and Silent (if that is chosen) next year.

@OldAle: Personally I totally agree we shouldn't fixate on doing a poll for every country/region in the world, since for some regions we as a community won't be able to make a decent list about it. But I will leave them on the ballot.

About the grouping of countries. I think we should leave Central Europe as it is now; that was a solid poll. I'm hesitant to change the Nordic poll we have had already to a Nordic+Baltic poll for next time. I might set up a preliminary poll with the various options in the coming week for this.

I added different suggestions to the OP. @Ferg: Comedy was also done in 2016, so didn't add that one. Nordic we already did, also in 2016.

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Post by Opio » November 12th, 2018, 3:10 am

OldAle1 wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 5:11 pm
Couple more thoughts/suggestions:

I like the low rating poll idea, but I'd put it at below 6.0 for some of the reasons stated already - that would remove a great many of the 'controversial" arthouse type films from consideration, e.g. Margaret, one of my favorites. Or it could be limited to films at least, say, 5 years old, or maybe pre-2010, given that IMDb ratings tend to "stabilize" over several years' time and you don't find many critically acclaimed films that are rated low from earlier eras. But at the same time I kind of hate to rely on IMDb for anything poll-related - see the musicals poll going on now for example. Just not a reliable or honest source. So maybe not such a great idea as much as I like it conceptually.

I'm probably in the extreme minority here but given that there are votes for both "disturbing" and "depressing" films why not for "happy" or "joyous" films? I suspect I'm as depressed as most people here, maybe moreso, but that doesn't mean I always want to feed my pessimism and self-loathing and fears. There ARE life-affirming films out there that aren't maudlin, saccharine or stupid.
I agree with the suggestions for the underrated poll criteria and like the idea for the uplifting films as well. :imdb: has flaws, but is there a better overall movie resource out there? Or maybe another good one to supplement :imdb: in some areas? (Those are real questions, not rhetorical.) I use ICM now and had started going to Wikipedia for some film info, until I put Adblock on Chrome so I could use IMDB again. I assume genres can be edited on :imdb: to make them more accurate if one has the time and inclination.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 14th, 2018, 2:43 pm

I gathered all the options for grouping various Asian and European countries together. I would like to hear from everyone which option they prefer. To determine this, it's good to keep in mind in this; First which grouping make the most sense cultural. Secondly which groupings you think we as this forum can make decent lists about. Thirdly how far you mind Russia dominating a poll in various options.
Please chose only one or two options.

As a reminder we already did these polls before:
- Central Europe (Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland) in 2016.
- Nordic (Denmark, Faroe Islands, Finland, Greenland, Iceland. Norway and Sweden) in 2016.
- Balkans (Greece, Albania, (Ex-)Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Moldova, and Cyprus) in 2016
- Russian/Soviet-Union (Russia and the Soviet-Union, excluding other ex-Sovjet States than Russia) in 2016.
- Middle East in 2018.

Unless mentioned otherwise South-Asia (Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan and Sri Lanka) will be held separately (if voted for).

Option 1:
- Keep Central Europe, Balkans, Russia/Soviet Union and Nordic as they are.
- Eastern Europe & Caucasus (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Moldova and Ukraine & Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia)
- Central-Asia (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan)

Option 2:
- Keep Central Europe, Balkans, Russia/Soviet Union and Nordic as they are.
- Eastern Europe (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Moldova and Ukraine)
- Central-Asia & Caucasus (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan & Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia)

Option 3
- Keep Central Europe, Balkans and Nordic as they are.
- Soviet Union & ex-Sovjet States (Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Moldova, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan & Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia).

Option 4.
- Keep Balkans and Nordic as they are.
- Expand Central Europe to be Eastern Europe (Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Moldova and Ukraine)
- Russia & Central-Asia & Caucasus (Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan & Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia)

Option 5
- Keep Balkans, Nordic and Russia/Soviet-Union as they are.
- Expand Central Europe to be Eastern Europe (Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Moldova and Ukraine)
- Central-Asia & Caucasus (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan & Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia)

Option 6 (aka the Fergenaprido Option ;) )
- Keep Central Europe and Balkans as they are.
- Nordic & Baltic (Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania)
- East Slavic (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus)
- Central Asia & Caucasus (Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Mongolia)
(Soviet Union would fall under East Slavic, unless a movie was made in another Soviet republic than Russia, Ukraine or Belarus)

Option 7.
- Keep Nordic and Russia/Soviet-Union as they are.
- Expand to Baltic + Central + Eastern Europe + Caucasus.
- Add Central Asia to Middle East (next time).

Option 8.
- Keep Nordic and Russia/Soviet-Union as they are.
- Baltic + Central + Eastern Europe + Caucasus.
- Central Asia & Southern Asia.
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 14th, 2018, 2:48 pm

Personally I prefer options 2 or 6.

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Post by Ivan0716 » November 14th, 2018, 3:23 pm

1 or 2.

If Central Asia can be combined with Middle East or South Asia, then definitely option 1.

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Post by albajos » November 14th, 2018, 3:44 pm

Nordic & Baltic have nothing in common. Culturally, historically or in trade, So no 6 from me.

Nordic is the Nordic Council. If that expands to the Baltic some time in ther future, then maybe.

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Post by Fergenaprido » November 14th, 2018, 4:35 pm

In options 4 & 5, I think it should read "Keep Balkans & Nordic" not "Keep Baltic & Nordic"

I prefer option 6, but 2 is also pretty good. Option 5 is okay, the rest I don't really care for as I think Russia should be separate from (almost) everyone else.

And Nordic and Baltic have a lot in common. Aside from 200 years of Swedish rule in Estonia and Latvia, Estonia and Finland are very similar in almost every way except that Finland managed to maintain it's independence from Russia/Soviet Union while Estonia did not. Culturally, historically, and linguistically they are two very closely related nations. The Baltics have more in common with Nordic culture and history than Greenland does, which while being a Danish possession still maintains a very strong indigenous culture related to the Inuit of northern Canada and Alaska.

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Post by beavis » November 14th, 2018, 4:38 pm

I like option 2 most
(Russia could be added to Eastern Europe in that option, but it looks good and do-able as it is)
the main thing is to have Caucasus and Central Asia together WITHOUT Russia/Sovjet (which would make it more European and less Asian in flavor)

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Post by Ivan0716 » November 14th, 2018, 6:36 pm

When we talk about cultural similarities are we also considering cinematic styles? If so Nordic and Baltic definitely don't belong together IMO.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 14th, 2018, 6:52 pm

Fergenaprido wrote:
November 14th, 2018, 4:35 pm
In options 4 & 5, I think it should read "Keep Balkans & Nordic" not "Keep Baltic & Nordic"

My mistake. Corrected it.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 14th, 2018, 7:11 pm

Ivan0716 wrote:
November 14th, 2018, 6:36 pm
When we talk about cultural similarities are we also considering cinematic styles? If so Nordic and Baltic definitely don't belong together IMO.
We are talking about similarities in national/regional cinematic culture. Cinematic styles to me can differ greatly inside regions or overlap between regions.

Although I agree that the Baltics and Nordic states do have historical and cultural ties, I do wonder how much influence those centuries old ties have on the relativily new cutural phenomenon that’s cinema.

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Post by albajos » November 14th, 2018, 7:24 pm

it's none. F.ex there is no co-productions between Norway and any country in the Baltics. But we have co-produced movies with all the other 4 nordic countries.

and I don't want a poll here anyway. Last time people only voted for Bergman, Dreyer, Kaurismäki and von Trier. Participants have to watch a lot more unofficial movies and movies with low check counts to make this poll interesting.

Just look at the challenge now. Kaurismäki is in a clear lead of the directors with 13 viewings. (double the views of #2) People don't want to expand.
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Post by Ivan0716 » November 14th, 2018, 7:48 pm

Lonewolf2003 wrote:
November 14th, 2018, 7:11 pm
Ivan0716 wrote:
November 14th, 2018, 6:36 pm
When we talk about cultural similarities are we also considering cinematic styles? If so Nordic and Baltic definitely don't belong together IMO.
We are talking about similarities in national/regional cinematic culture.
When I said cinematic style I meant all stylistic aspects/choices in filmmaking(thematic, sociopolitical etc.), not just visually. The Baltics have a lot more in common cinematically with the rest of the Eastern bloc than the Nordic for obvious reasons, so it doesn't make much sense to combine the two.

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Post by flaiky » November 14th, 2018, 7:56 pm

Option 3, second choice would be option 4.
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Post by albajos » November 14th, 2018, 8:05 pm

My only priority poll this year would be "Directed by Women". It is a challenge with generally high partcipation.

And the finished list would be quite unpredictable.

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Post by Ivan0716 » November 14th, 2018, 8:13 pm

albajos wrote:
November 14th, 2018, 7:24 pm
and I don't want a poll here anyway. Last time people only voted for Bergman, Dreyer, Kaurismäki and von Trier. Participants have to watch a lot more unofficial movies and movies with low check counts to make this poll interesting.
This is why I don't want Russia mixing with neighbouring countries, would rather have a pure Russian poll and not do the other countries at all than have a so-called Russia+Eastern Europe/Caucasus poll with only a handful of entries that are non-Russian and still say we've done Eastern Europe/Caucasus.

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Post by RogerTheMovieManiac88 » November 15th, 2018, 7:37 am

The most important thing I think is to keep Russia as a poll of its own.

Caucasus and Central Asia combined would make sense as it would combine together quite a few ex-Soviet countries that otherwise might struggle to provide enough depth for a poll.

I'd favour option 2 or option 5. I certainly wouldn't be in favour of lumping Central Asia in with the Middle East or Southern Asia.

The most difficult thing is the question of where to place the Baltic nations. In time it might be apt to grant them a poll of their own.
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Post by Lonewolf2003 » November 18th, 2018, 3:10 pm

Option 2 is clearly the consensus option that gets the most backing. So that's the one we're are going with.

The On 0 zero list poll above and discussion in the topic concludes that it won't be annual, but will be held in 2020 again (and might become bi-annual after that).

I'm going to setup polls now to chose the subjects for the 2019 polls:
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