Lakigigar wrote: ↑
November 6th, 2018, 2:53 am
sol wrote: ↑
November 5th, 2018, 11:22 pm
Good! I was disappointed when this dropped last year after I participated for the first time and gave the film a 100 point boost. Now if I only I could convince everyone of the merits of the sequels...
Why do you like the Scream movies so much or think that they're so good?
I have included Scream and a bit lower on the list also Scream 2 and Scream 3. I haven't seen Scream 4. I like them, and they're in some way a modern Halloween which i've seen recently and was a bit flawed / dated IMO. In some way, Halloween is a big influence of modern movies, but might've been the victim of it's own success, as other movies have done the same and honestly better like Scream.
Thanks for asking, and before I elaborate my thoughts, I think it is worth stating that I agree about Halloween
not being quite as good as some of the films that it has influenced. As an atmospheric mood piece, there's load to like about Carpenter's film, but Zombie's remake is a far more satisfying take on the story, delving into Michael as a character rather than have him as a random "boogeyman".
I suppose what I like the most about the Scream
movies is that they work exceptionally well as murder mystery tales. The very best murder mysteries only improve with every viewing as more and more clues come light regarding the identity of the murderer and which would have easily been missed on a single viewing. That's how I feel about all four films. Craven and Williamson drop plenty of small, subtle hints along the way; some parts (the video store meeting in the first film) also take on an entirely differently flavour once you know who Ghostface is.
The scripts are fantastic too. Endlessly quotable and quite clever since each entry in the Scream
franchise is directly related to an element of movies in general. The first Scream
movie is about horror movies in general with all the unwritten rules that exist. The second is about sequels while the film itself follows the rules of sequels - everything bigger, more elaborate and shocking and so on. The third film is about trilogies and indeed it follows the unwritten trilogy rules too, while the fourth (and most clever entry) is about remakes and reboots and the directions that they tend to take these days. Particularly the differences between remakes and the originals that they are based on. There's also something really cool going on in the fourth film as it abides by all the unwritten rules and yet our heroes manage to subvert the rules. All very clever and unfortunately not something I can elaborate more on without spoilers.
And then there's the comedy. When push comes to shove, the films are slightly more funny than they are scary, but Craven achieves the balance pretty well in all four entries. Lines like Tatum telling Dewey that the janitor is his superior, or even subtler stuff like Dewey trying to act all tough and cool around his boss who is stressed out and smoking a cigarette while Dewey clumsily licks an ice cream. The meta/self-referential jokes are pretty funny too, e.g. Liev Schrieber complaining about his small cameo in a horror film in Scream 3
The three main recurring characters are excellent too. Neve Campbell's protagonist evolves and changes so much across the course of all four films - from shy to assertive, then paranoid, then trying to hide herself away from the world since "killers can't kill what they can't find" or something to that effect, to her coming "out from the shadows" in the fourth film. The relationship between Dewey and Gale also undergoes some pretty human and realistic shifts throughout as their experiences drive them closer together. Gale's gradual humbling as a fame-hunting reporter (between the first and fourth film) is handled particularly well since it is not a this-->that shift, but a gradual change where we still see the flicker of fame-hunting in her eyes. And of course Dewey progresses from being almost the joke cop to the Sheriff in the fourth film.
I could keep going on, but I guess the sticking point for me is that each movie in the franchise is endlessly rewatchable. I'm up to six viewing for each, and they only improve more in my esteem with every viewing. I just find them to be incredibly intricately made films with their plugs at the movie industry and Agatha Christie level murder mysteries, not to mention several really cool little touches from Wes Craven, like the sign that is shot to read "no living" in the second film moments before one character dies.