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Post by outdoorcats » September 27th, 2018, 10:47 pm

200 awesome movies that you should watch. Yes, Let Us Prey belongs in the top 100. http://www.imdb.com/list/ls040006462/

If you hate clicking links, here's the first 100:

1. The Thing (John Carpenter - 1982)
2. Lisa and the Devil (Mario Bava - 1973)
3. Dawn of the Dead (George A. Romero - 1978)
4. Alien (Ridley Scott - 1979)
5. Ravenous (Antonia Bird - 1999)
6. Seconds (John Frankenheimer - 1966)
7. Evolution (Lucile Hadzihalilovic - 2015)
8. Island of Lost Souls (Erle C. Kenton - 1932)
9. Personal Shopper (Olivier Assayas - 2016)
10. The Wolf Man (George Waggner - 1941)

11. Aliens (James Cameron - 1986)
12. The Fall of the House of Usher (Jean Epstein - 1928)
13. White Zombie (Victor Halperin - 1932)
14. Jaws (Steven Spielberg - 1975)
15. A Tale of Two Sisters (Jee-woon Kim - 2003)
16. Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock - 1960)
17. The Fly (David Cronenberg - 1986)
18. Audition (Takashi Miike - 1999)
19. Pontypool (Bruce Mcdonald - 2008)
20. The Descent (Neil Marshall - 2005)

21. Kill, Baby...Kill! (Mario Bava - 1966)
22. Isle of the Dead (Mark Robson - 1945)
23. The Rape of the Vampire (Jean Rollin - 1968)
24. Onibaba (Kaneto Shindô - 1964)
25. The Vanishing (George Sluizer - 1988)
26. Videodrome (David Cronenberg - 1983)
27. Cure (Kiyoshi Kurosawa - 1997)
28. The Wailing (Hong-jin Na - 2016)
29. Manhunter (Michael Mann - 1986)
30. 28 Days Later... (Danny Boyle - 2002)

31. Scanners (David Cronenberg - 1981)
32. Deep Red (Dario Argento - 1975)
33. Kuroneko (Kaneto Shindô - 1968)
34. The Brood (David Cronenberg - 1979)
35. Funny Games (Michael Haneke - 2007)
36. Kill List (Ben Wheatley - 2011)
37. Don't Look Now (Nicholas Roeg - 1973)
38. Dead Ringers (David Cronenberg - 1988)
39. Blood and Roses (Roger Vadim - 1960)
40. Suicide Club (Sion Sono - 2001)

41. The Most Dangerous Game (Irving Pichel and Ernest B. Shoedsack - 1932)
42. Let the Right One In (Tomas Alfredson - 2008)
43. The House of the Devil (Ti West - 2009)
44. Under the Shadow (Babak Anvari - 2016)
45. House of Voices (Pascale Laugier - 2004)
46. Martyrs (Pascale Laugier - 2008)
47. The Invitation (Karyn Kusama - 2015)
48. The Innocents (Jack Clayton - 1961)
49. When a Stranger Calls (Fred Walton - 1979)
50. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (Robert Wiene - 1920)

51. Night of the Living Dead (George A. Romero - 1968)
52. Let Sleeping Corpses Lie (Jorge Grau - 1974)
53. Black Death (Christopher Smith - 2010)
54. Noroi (Kôji Shiraishi - 2005)
55. The Last Wave (Peter Weir - 1977)
56. The Cabin in the Woods (Drew Goddard - 2012)
57. House (Nobuhiko Ôbayashi - 1977)
58. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (Robert Mamoulian - 1931)
59. Vampyr (Carl Th. Dreyer - 1932)
60. Lake Mungo (Joel Anderson - 2008)

61. The Haunting (Robert Wise - 1963)
62. The Crazies (George A. Romero - 1973)
63. Raw (Julia Ducournau - 2016)
64. Bay of Blood (Mario Bava - 1971)
65. Kwaidan (Masaki Kobayashi - 1965)
66. Dream Home (Pang Ho-Cheung - 2010)
67. It Follows (David Robert Mitchell - 2014)
68. We Are What We Are (Jorge Michel Grau - 2010)
69. The Host (Bong Joon-ho - 2006)
70. Eraserhead (David Lynch - 1977)

71. Black Christmas (Bob Clark - 1974)
72. The Fly (Kurt Neumann - 1958)
73. Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (John McNaughton - 1986)
74. Them! (Gordon Douglas - 1954)
75. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (Don Siegel - 1956)
76. Black Sabbath (Mario Bava - 1963)
77. The Abominable Snowman (Val Guest - 1957)
78. [Rec] (Jaume Balagueró and Paco Plaza - 2007)
79. Mother! (Darren Aronofsky - 2017)
80. Great Choice (Robin Comisar - 2017) [sh.]

81. We Are What We Are (Jim Mickle - 2013)
82. The Devil's Backbone (Guillermo Del Toro - 2001)
83. Inferno (Dario Argento - 1980)
84. Dead & Buried (Gary Sherman - 1981)
85. Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? (Robert Aldrich - 1962)
86. A Bucket of Blood (Roger Corman - 1959)
87. Viy (Konstantin Ershov and Georgiy Kropachyov - 1967)
88. All the Colors of the Dark (Sergio Martino - 1972)
89. Messiah of Evil (Willard Huyck and Gloria Katz - 1973)
90. Suspiria (Dario Argento - 1977)

91. Let Us Prey (Brian O'Malley - 2014)
92. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (Tobe Hooper - 1974)
93. Tremors (Ron Underwood - 1990)
94. Stoker (Chan-wook Park - 2013)
95. Quatermass and the Pit (Roy Ward Baker - 1967)
96. The Grandmother (David Lynch - 1970) [sh.]
97. Insidious (James Wan - 2010)
98. The Funhouse (Tobe Hooper - 1981)
99. The Black Cat (Edgar G. Ulmer - 1934)
100. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick - 1980)

If you're making your own lists, take heed of a few films that when searching for on IMDb will not appear under the horror tag: Jaws, The Silence of the Lambs, Seconds, The Last Wave, Cube, Se7en, Stoker, The Vanishing, and The Most Dangerous Game.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » September 27th, 2018, 10:52 pm

Here's the thing. I love Seconds, but it looks like it's not tagged as horror on both imdb and RYM. In fact, there's not even a secondary horror tag on RYM. I don't think I will put it on my list then.

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Post by outdoorcats » September 27th, 2018, 11:02 pm

It's up to you; personally I think it's clearly a horror film both in subject matter and tone. I would try and get tags added, but people have been trying to get Jaws tagged as horror on IMDb for years, so maybe that's wasted effort.

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Post by mightysparks » September 27th, 2018, 11:04 pm

It’s pretty generally regarded as a horror film by the horror community though I don’t really personally feel it is either. But then I also think Psycho is really a thriller not a horror, so up to what definition of horror you want to use (your own vs someone else’s, or mix of both).
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Post by Ebbywebby » September 27th, 2018, 11:06 pm

Personal Shopper?

I wouldn't include Seconds or The Last Wave either.

I haven't seen about a third of your picks, but I don't imagine seeing them in the foreseeable future beyond maybe "The Crazies" and "A Tale of Two Sisters."
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » September 27th, 2018, 11:09 pm

Ebbywebby wrote:
September 27th, 2018, 11:06 pm
Personal Shopper?
I would vote for this if it's considered horror. There are certainly elements of it, but I would maybe call it more of a thriller. Thriler/horror can be such a grey area though.

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Post by outdoorcats » September 27th, 2018, 11:37 pm

It's definitely meant to be Assayas' "spin" on a horror film. I personally would classify it as one--it is an incredible eerie supernatural film when dealing with the dead brother storyline, and manages to maintain the eerieness through the more grounded thriller story, and works with so many classic horror themes and tropes. I can understand someone not including it, though.

On my end, there were dozens of films listed as horror on IMDb that I decided not to include, based on the fact that they made have had horror-y elements but didn't feel like horror overall to me - some were Twin Peaks: FWWM, Valerie and Her Week of Wonders, The Cremator, Bedeviled, Birdboy, and Jan Svankmajer's shorts and features. I wouldn't begrudge someone for including them, they just personally didn't feel right to me.

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Post by sebby » September 28th, 2018, 5:51 am

Personal Shopper is definitely horror in my book.

Seconds is more a grey area, but I consider it horror as well.

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Post by zzzorf » September 28th, 2018, 11:20 am

Here's my list. It's fully ranked according to my Flickchart. It is a big wonky in places but hey nothings perfect. Like I did with the 2010's list I capped it at the length of the final list, therefore these are my top 250 horror movies. (Subject to change as I watch other movies over the next month).

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/my+t ... ies/zzzorf

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Post by jeff_v » September 28th, 2018, 3:42 pm

Personal Shopper was one of the three new entries on my list for this year.

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Post by rnilsson19 » September 28th, 2018, 4:51 pm

I had Personal Shopper on my list initially but ended up cutting it along with Manhunter, Seconds, Under the Skin and some Lynch films for not feeling 'horror' enough.

Still pondering whether I should do the same with Picnic at Hanging Rock, The Fourth Man and White Dog.

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Post by GruesomeTwosome » September 28th, 2018, 5:14 pm

rnilsson19 wrote:
September 28th, 2018, 4:51 pm
I had Personal Shopper on my list initially but ended up cutting it along with Manhunter, Seconds, Under the Skin and some Lynch films for not feeling 'horror' enough.

Still pondering whether I should do the same with Picnic at Hanging Rock, The Fourth Man and White Dog.
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Post by OldAle1 » September 28th, 2018, 5:23 pm

Interesting comments from outdoorcats' list on. Most of the films in question, including White Dog, Seconds, The Vanishing, Picnic at Hanging Rock, Personal Shopper and Jaws are films that aren't on my list though I like all of them enough that they could be. I guess for whatever reason I tend to define horror a little more narrowly than I do certain other genres, not sure why, not really something I've been conscious of until this moment. Also I tend to be more willing to leave out questionable films if they're already well-known enough and on lots of lists, which all of these except for Personal Shopper are, and that one's new enough that it's eventual critical consensus isn't predictable yet.

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Post by albajos » September 28th, 2018, 5:45 pm

It's very easy. If people are terrified within the movie, it's horror.

We use the genre terms Chiller and Fright in Norway to divide them further. Psychological thrillers are sometimes also Chillers.

So the horror genre is basically too broad as opposed to what I'm used to.

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » September 29th, 2018, 1:22 am

These are films that have a secondary horror tag on RYM with no horror tag on imdb that I've given 8/10+ to (would add to my list). I guess I'll add Personal Shopper because of what was mentioned here. Not sure about the others.

Lost Highway
Mulholland Dr.
Penda's Fen
Personal Shopper
Picnic at Hanging Rock
The Terminator
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Post by maxwelldeux » September 29th, 2018, 4:57 am

maxwelldeux wrote:
September 27th, 2018, 1:16 am
Partially ranked: https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/maxw ... xwelldeux/

1-19 ranked, rest unranked. If that changes (and hopefully it will), it will updated in the list description.
UPDATE: my list is now fully ranked (and will remain so)

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Post by rnilsson19 » September 29th, 2018, 8:20 am

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
September 29th, 2018, 1:22 am
These are films that have a secondary horror tag on RYM with no horror tag on imdb that I've given 8/10+ to (would add to my list). I guess I'll add Personal Shopper because of what was mentioned here. Not sure about the others.

Lost Highway
Mulholland Dr.
Penda's Fen
Personal Shopper
Picnic at Hanging Rock
The Terminator
Иди и смотри [Come and See]
夢 [Dreams]
I deemed Penda's Fen to be Folk Horror-ish enough. Also, it doesn't seem to have it's own IMDB tags, just the general Play for Today anthology series ones.

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Post by RedHawk10 » September 29th, 2018, 6:21 pm

XxXApathy420XxX wrote:
September 29th, 2018, 1:22 am
These are films that have a secondary horror tag on RYM with no horror tag on imdb that I've given 8/10+ to (would add to my list). I guess I'll add Personal Shopper because of what was mentioned here. Not sure about the others.

Lost Highway
Mulholland Dr.
Penda's Fen
Personal Shopper
Picnic at Hanging Rock
The Terminator
Иди и смотри [Come and See]
夢 [Dreams]
I don't see either of the Lynch movies as horror, although I guess a case could be made for Lost Highway.

Definitely wouldn't count Picnic at Hanging Rock or The Terminator.

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Post by Hunziker » September 29th, 2018, 8:09 pm

My nth attempt to make a horror list has ended in another failure :/ idk why, but it has always been my hardest list to compile. Horror is so subjective, so personal! I end up as frustrated as if I had been on Flickchart for 8 hours. Maybe I'll end up doing an unranked one
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Post by joachimt » September 30th, 2018, 6:00 am

Hunziker wrote:
September 29th, 2018, 8:09 pm
My nth attempt to make a horror list has ended in another failure :/ idk why, but it has always been my hardest list to compile. Horror is so subjective, so personal! I end up as frustrated as if I had been on Flickchart for 8 hours. Maybe I'll end up doing an unranked one
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Post by Ivan0716 » September 30th, 2018, 8:46 pm

Hunziker wrote:
September 29th, 2018, 8:09 pm
My nth attempt to make a horror list has ended in another failure :/ idk why, but it has always been my hardest list to compile. Horror is so subjective, so personal! I end up as frustrated as if I had been on Flickchart for 8 hours. Maybe I'll end up doing an unranked one
Yep, so I just grabbed my top 50 films that are tagged as horror on letterboxd, I don't even agree with half of those myself.


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Post by 1SO » October 1st, 2018, 5:46 am

Hunziker wrote:
September 29th, 2018, 8:09 pm
My nth attempt to make a horror list has ended in another failure :/ idk why, but it has always been my hardest list to compile. Horror is so subjective, so personal! I end up as frustrated as if I had been on Flickchart for 8 hours. Maybe I'll end up doing an unranked one
I had 3 tabs open: ICM, Letterboxd and IMDB. Each had different films that fell under the definition of horror. I then went through each site year-by-year. Took a couple of weeks, but it was also fun watching for the good and bad years as the genre continued to evolve.




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Post by Caracortada » October 7th, 2018, 7:08 am

Concerning the eternal debate on the distinction between genres I don't like definitions like these:

Comedy = film that makes you laugh
Thriller = film that gives you thrills
Horror = film that gives you creeps

These definitions are too vague, because no one can tell the difference between thrills and creeps, and because they describe a subjective experience. For myself I huse concreter definitions, but I'm aware that these aren't generally accepted.

To me a thriller is a suspenseful crime story in which the villain is known before the dénouement - otherwise it would be a whodunit. Horror is a story in which the protagonists are threatened by dangerous creatures or entities. These can be a supernatural, like werewolves, vampires, demons or witches. Or they can be animals, like sharks, dinosaurs, birds, bees or giant apes. Or they can be human: a serial killer with a knife or chainsaw. Only in the last case there's an overlapse between thriller and horror. Psycho is a thriller, but it's also the first slasher movie. Finally there's also sci-fi horror, in which the threat comes from aliens or monsters created by scientists.

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Post by Carmel1379 » October 9th, 2018, 3:51 pm

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Post by VincentPrice » October 11th, 2018, 11:44 am

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls071497673/

Unranked except #1 which will always and forever be Dead Alive.

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Post by Onderhond » October 11th, 2018, 3:04 pm

joachimt wrote:
September 23rd, 2018, 6:37 pm
The deadline is 31st October 2018
Just wondering, but why is this list assembled post-Halloween.

I get that people watch a lot of horror films in October, but other lists usually have rules in place to avoid "momentary hypes", it's strange this one seems to be steering people the other way. Also, a list like this would be great as input for those looking for october/Halloween horror films to watch, but when it will be finally there everybody is probably so sick of the genre then won't be looking to watch any of the undiscovered entries.

Just my two cents of course, but wouldn't it make more sense to have the list finished by the start of October rather than early November?

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Post by albajos » October 11th, 2018, 7:35 pm

Well, we already have a previous list that people can look at.

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Post by joachimt » October 11th, 2018, 7:54 pm

albajos wrote:
October 11th, 2018, 7:35 pm
Well, we already have a previous list that people can look at.
This.
And a lot of people seem to want to explore things before submitting a list.
Your logic makes sense as well though, so I don't think any way is the best.
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Post by Onderhond » October 11th, 2018, 8:44 pm

albajos wrote:
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Well, we already have a previous list that people can look at.
Sure, but one that lacks the buzz and excitement of a new list. You notice that whenever results are published, people get triggered to watch films on that list. With another incentive in the month after the reveal, they might actually watch them rather than watchlist them and forget about them again.

I mean, I love exploring too but whenever we do an "all-time best" list there's usually a rule banning newer films to buffer against hype of the moment films. That rule starts to feel pretty random if such behavior is actually encouraged for other lists.


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Post by Mysterious Dude » October 11th, 2018, 10:04 pm

I can appreciate a list of horror movies any time of year.

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Post by joachimt » October 12th, 2018, 5:42 am

Onderhond wrote:
October 11th, 2018, 8:44 pm
I mean, I love exploring too but whenever we do an "all-time best" list there's usually a rule banning newer films to buffer against hype of the moment films. That rule starts to feel pretty random if such behavior is actually encouraged for other lists.
Huh? :huh:
I only know of one of our lists with that rule. That's 500<400 and I don't think I have to explain the logic of that rule there. Apart from that I don't think we ever had such a rule. People are free to vote for movies that were just released.
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Post by Onderhond » October 12th, 2018, 5:57 am

joachimt wrote:
October 12th, 2018, 5:42 am
That's 500<400 and I don't think I have to explain the logic of that rule there.
In theory it makes sense there, although I think in practice the rule probably doesn't change that much.

I must be confused with another forum then. I thought the all-time best of list also had that limitation in place :)

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