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World Cup, Season 3, Match 1K: Italy vs Brazil vs Switzerland vs Vietnam (Jul 22nd)

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Post by joachimt » June 24th, 2018, 12:47 pm

This is match 1K of the third season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.

CountryOriginal TitleEnglish TitleYearManagerIMDBICM
ItalyC'eravamo tanto amatiWe All Loved Each Other So Much1974toro913linklink
BrazilLavoura ArcaicaTo the Left of the Father2001Gorrolinklink
SwitzerlandReise der HoffnungJourney of Hope1990Nathan Treadwaylinklink
VietnamMùa len trâuThe Buffalo Boy2004Eve-Lang-El-Couplinklink

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C'eravamo tanto amati
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Lavoura Arcaica
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Reise der Hoffnung
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Mùa len trâu
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- You must watch all 4 films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 4 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

Voting deadline = Jul 22nd
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The countries that end at 1st and 2nd place proceed to the next round. The ranking of the match will be decided using these rules:
- Ranked by lowest average ranking.
- In case of a tie between two movies, head-to-head determines the winner (how many people thought A>B and how many thought B>A).
- In case there's still a tie after the previous rule or there is a tie between three or four movies, most #1-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? Fewest #4-votes determines the winner.
- Still a tie? The match will have a 3 day extension (except when the tie is only between #3 and #4).
Here's a quick summary of how the tournament worksShow
We start with 48 films from 48 countries. Each country has a manager who determines which movie will be watched. In the first round the countries are divided into 12 groups of 4. From each group the countries that end up at #1 and #2 proceed to the next round. In the 2nd round the 24 remaining countries will be divided into 8 groups of 3. The managers pick a new movie. The winner of each group proceeds to the next round. The final 8 countries compete one-on-one in the quarter finals (with a new movie of course) and so on till the final.
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#2

Post by Mario Gaborović » June 24th, 2018, 12:50 pm

1. Reise der Hoffnung
2. C'eravamo tanto amati
3. Mùa len trâu
4. Lavoura Arcaica

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#3

Post by 72allinncallme » June 24th, 2018, 1:53 pm

1. Lavoura Arcaica
2. Reise der Hoffnung
3. Mùa len trâu
4. C'eravamo tanto amati

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#4

Post by Nathan Treadway » June 24th, 2018, 2:03 pm

Well.. Here goes nothing! I hope you guys get something out of Reise der Hoffnung!

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Post by Cocoa » June 24th, 2018, 2:23 pm

1. Reise der Hoffnung 7/10
2. C'eravamo tanto amati 6/10
3. Mùa len trâu 6/10
4. Lavoura Arcaica 5/10

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Post by maxwelldeux » June 24th, 2018, 4:34 pm

joachimt on Jun 24 2018, 06:47:16 AM wrote:This is match 1K of the third season of iCM Forum's Film World Cup.
Before coffee kicked in, it took me WAY longer than it should have to realize you weren't claiming this was the 1000th match of the World Cup. :whistling:

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Post by joachimt » June 24th, 2018, 7:16 pm

1. Lavoura Arcaica 9/10
2. Reise der Hoffnung 7/10
3. Mùa len trâu 7/10
4. C'eravamo tanto amati 7/10

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Post by Mate_cosido » June 25th, 2018, 3:41 am

1. C'eravamo tanto amati
2. Reise der Hoffnung
3. Mùa len trâu
4. Lavoura Arcaica

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#9

Post by mjf314 » June 29th, 2018, 6:19 am

So far everyone has ranked Lavoura Arcaica either 1st or 4th.

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Post by Muellwind » June 29th, 2018, 8:18 pm

1. Reise der Hoffnung
2. C'eravamo tanto amati
3. Mùa len trâu
4. Lavoura Arcaica

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#11

Post by joachimt » June 30th, 2018, 8:23 am

mjf314 on Jun 29 2018, 12:19:16 AM wrote:So far everyone has ranked Lavoura Arcaica either 1st or 4th.
And Mùa len trâu has only been #3 so far.

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Post by cinewest » June 30th, 2018, 8:34 am

mjf314 on Jun 29 2018, 12:19:16 AM wrote:So far everyone has ranked Lavoura Arcaica either 1st or 4th.
That's the kind of film it is.
I thought it was amazing, myself, but I like all of the others, as well, and would rank them:
Brazil- 9
Italy- 8.5
Vietnam- 8
Switzerland- 7.5

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Post by Armoreska » June 30th, 2018, 8:42 am

joachimt on Jun 30 2018, 02:23:10 AM wrote:
mjf314 on Jun 29 2018, 12:19:16 AM wrote:So far everyone has ranked Lavoura Arcaica either 1st or 4th.
And Mùa len trâu has only been #3 so far.
Bet that makes it rank 4th.
What's the story so far? Looks like a serious battle.
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viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1434
and "Gordon" Liu Chia-Hui/Liu Chia-Liang and Yuen Woo-ping and "Sammo" Hung Kam-bo

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Post by joachimt » June 30th, 2018, 8:48 am

cinewest on Jun 30 2018, 02:34:22 AM wrote:
mjf314 on Jun 29 2018, 12:19:16 AM wrote:So far everyone has ranked Lavoura Arcaica either 1st or 4th.
That's the kind of film it is.
I thought it was amazing, myself, but I like all of the others, as well, and would rank them:
Brazil- 9
Italy- 8.5
Vietnam- 8
Switzerland- 7.5
"would"? Is this a vote?

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Post by joachimt » June 30th, 2018, 8:49 am

Armoreska on Jun 30 2018, 02:42:33 AM wrote:What's the story so far? Looks like a serious battle.
If I count cinewest:

Image Reise der Hoffnung: 1.857 (15-6)
Image C'eravamo tanto amati: 2.429 (11-10)
Image Lavoura Arcaica: 2.714 (9-12)
Image Mùa len trâu: 3 (7-14)

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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » June 30th, 2018, 11:09 pm

1. Lavour Arcaica [To the Left of the Father] (2001)
2. Reise der Hoffnung [Journey of Hope] (1990)
3. Mùa len trâu [The Buffalo Boy] (2004)
4. C'eravamo tanto amati [We All Loved Each Other So Much] (1974)
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Post by joachimt » July 1st, 2018, 6:54 am

joachimt on Jun 30 2018, 02:48:49 AM wrote:
cinewest on Jun 30 2018, 02:34:22 AM wrote:
mjf314 on Jun 29 2018, 12:19:16 AM wrote:So far everyone has ranked Lavoura Arcaica either 1st or 4th.
That's the kind of film it is.
I thought it was amazing, myself, but I like all of the others, as well, and would rank them:
Brazil- 9
Italy- 8.5
Vietnam- 8
Switzerland- 7.5
"would"? Is this a vote?
Waiting for an answer......

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Post by cinewest » July 1st, 2018, 10:20 am

@joachimt,

Sure, count it. Like I said, 4 very good films, 3 of which I have in my DVD collection, which i am constantly pruning

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Post by Gorro » July 1st, 2018, 10:24 am

Let's continue the trend of putting Lavoura arcaica at #1 or #4 and Mua len trau at #3.

1. Lavoura arcaica
2. Reise der Hoffnung
3. Mùa len trâu
4. C'eravamo tanto amati

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Post by beavis » July 1st, 2018, 2:17 pm

very strong round!

1. Lavoura arcaica - 8,5
2. C'eravamo tanto amati - 8,5
3. Mùa len trâu - 7,8
4. Reise der Hoffnung - 7,5

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Post by Armoreska » July 1st, 2018, 3:43 pm

subvert normality!

Mua len trau 7-
C'eravamo tanto amati 7-
Reise der Hoffnung 6
Lavoura Arcaica (archaic tillage) 5+
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Post by joachimt » July 1st, 2018, 5:16 pm

As 11th voter Armoreska breaks the trend of Mùa len trâu being #3, but he still keeps up the trend for Lavoura Arcaica.

Image Reise der Hoffnung: 2.182 (20-13)
Image Lavoura Arcaica: 2.364 (18-15)
Image C'eravamo tanto amati: 2.636 (15-18)
Image Mùa len trâu: 2.818 (13-20)

Number of #1-votes
Image C'eravamo tanto amati: 1
Image Lavoura Arcaica: 6
Image Reise der Hoffnung: 3
Image Mùa len trâu: 1

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Post by joachimt » July 1st, 2018, 5:18 pm

Number of #4-votes
Image C'eravamo tanto amati: 4
Image Lavoura Arcaica: 5
Image Reise der Hoffnung: 2
Image Mùa len trâu: 0

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Post by edward5 » July 2nd, 2018, 10:17 am

1. Lavoura Arcaica 8/10
2. Reise der Hoffnung 6.5/10
3. Mùa len trâu 6/10
4. C'eravamo tanto amati 6/10

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Post by Nathan Treadway » July 2nd, 2018, 2:12 pm

:lol: Back on track.

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Post by Mario Gaborović » July 2nd, 2018, 2:29 pm

Nathan Treadway on Jul 2 2018, 08:12:04 AM wrote::lol: Back on track.
You should already prepare for the R2. Dress your gym suit and take Alpine Fire and White Stadium to a training session.

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Post by cinewest » July 2nd, 2018, 3:52 pm

Sad to see such a unique film as Lavoira Arcaica getting such poor treatment from those who simply can't appreciate its brilliance.

Adapted from a famous novel in Brazil that mixes "rural gothic" with heart-torn poetry, this film was a passion play for one of Brazil's best cinematographers of the past 30 years.
some of the imagery in this film has remained etched in my memory ever since.
It's definitely not a film for everyone, but it continues to upset me when I see films that contain such vision and artistry end up with a mundane viewer rating because of the polarized responses

Of course, this is often the case when it comes to works of art that venture beyond the familiar norms, and more typical presentations. In fact such a response is in itself fairly typical.

The vietnamese film is also pretty unique and extraordinary, and I wonder if the same folks rating them 5's and 6's treat david Lynch's surreal dreamscapes with the same disparagement.
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Post by Renegade » July 3rd, 2018, 8:41 pm

1. Reise der Hoffnung
2. C'eravamo tanto amati
3. Mùa len trâu
4. Lavoura Arcaica

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Post by cinewest » July 4th, 2018, 8:41 am

@Renegade,

You might consider changing your moniker....

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Post by tommy_leazaq » July 6th, 2018, 5:53 am

My ranking would break the trend for Brazil but I don't want to be the one who do that. Let me see how long it goes. :lol:

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Post by mjf314 » July 6th, 2018, 7:41 am

tommy_leazaq on Jul 5 2018, 11:53:19 PM wrote:My ranking would break the trend for Brazil but I don't want to be the one who do that. Let me see how long it goes. :lol:
Maybe try rewatching it to see if your opinion changes?

If you were planning to rank it 2nd, try to rewatch it in ideal viewing conditions.

If you were planning to rank it 3rd, try to get some glare from a window to ruin the movie for you.
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Post by Mario Gaborović » July 7th, 2018, 12:14 pm

Image Reise der Hoffnung: 25-14
Image Lavoura Arcaica: 21-18
Image C'eravamo tanto amati: 17-22
Image Mùa len trâu: 15-24

16 days left.

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Post by jvv » July 7th, 2018, 10:41 pm

1. Reise der Hoffnung - 7.5/10
2. C'eravamo tanto amati - 7/10
3. Mùa len trâu - 7/10
4. Lavoura Arcaica - 5/10

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#34

Post by Angel Glez » July 9th, 2018, 4:03 pm

Testing, testing, one, two, three...

1. Journey of Hope
2. We All Loved Each Other So Much
3. The Buffalo Boy
4. To the Left of the Father

Edit: Apparently everything works fine. :thumbsup:

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Post by joachimt » July 9th, 2018, 6:00 pm

And still Brazil is either #1 or #4.

Image Reise der Hoffnung: 1.933 (31-14)
Image C'eravamo tanto amati: 2.6 (21-24)
Image Lavoura Arcaica: 2.6 (21-24)
Image Mùa len trâu: 2.867 (17-28)

Image C'eravamo tanto amati - Image Lavoura Arcaica: 8 - 7

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#36

Post by joachimt » July 9th, 2018, 6:01 pm

img=20,10 doesn't work here. Was there another solution for that yet? Or should I resize all the flags myself?

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Post by Nathan Treadway » July 9th, 2018, 6:15 pm

Looks like it's turning into quite a battle. :)

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Post by burneyfan » July 9th, 2018, 7:14 pm

1. Reise der Hoffnung (Switzerland)
2. Lavoura Arcaica (Brazil)
3. Mùa len trâu (Vietnam)
4. C'eravamo tanto amati (Italy)

Thanks to toro913, Gorro, Nathan Treadway, and Eve-Lang-El-Coup for some very good films!

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Post by joachimt » July 9th, 2018, 7:17 pm

So burneyfan, as 16th voter, just broke the chain of #1/#4-votes for Brazil. Still Armoreska is the only one not to put Vietnam at #3.

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Post by klaus78 » July 10th, 2018, 6:16 pm

1. Mùa len trâu (Vietnam) 8/10
2. C'eravamo tanto amati (Italy) 8/10
3. Reise der Hoffnung (Switzerland) 7/10
4. Lavoura Arcaica (Brazil) 6/10

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