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Post by Kasparius. » July 24th, 2011, 3:48 am

Dolwphin on Jul 22 2011, 03:14:12 PM wrote:Flowing (Mikio Naruse,1956)
Artificial Light (Hollis Frampton, 1969)
Flowing is on Kinema Jumpo. Make sure your favorite isn't already on ICM.

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Post by Cippenham » July 24th, 2011, 6:48 am

I agree with Monty, please could they be listed in the first post.

Also agree to stick with 2 each for now. Yes it is a kind of test thread.

As I have concentrated mainly on lists I have not seen the majority of choices here so it is a bit like Ain' t Nobody's blues but my own but once version 2.0 is live, could go on a personal list. then I would have a go at actually watching some of them!
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Post by mightysparks » July 24th, 2011, 7:13 am

Ok I added the movies so far into the OP.

And for those saying that they probably haven't seen enough etc for this list; the point of this list is just for our favourites not on iCM lists, not 'the most obscure movies you've seen'. I did leave out a couple of my more well known favourites in favour of the 2 I voted for so they'd get another mention, but not everyone has to...


Also, I can't believe how many of you are voting for Australian movies; we are the worst at making movies! But now I will have to check those out :(
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Post by Cippenham » July 24th, 2011, 9:01 am

I did not choose an Australian film, but thought of choosing Micahel Powell's They're a Weird Mob (1966) as one of my selections, but decided against it although I did find it entertaining.
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Post by jvv » July 24th, 2011, 9:18 am

As people said before, it's hard to just choose two. Here are my choices :

The Gift (2000)
The Basketball Diaries (1995)

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Post by ormazd » July 24th, 2011, 9:33 am

Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (2007)
Hadewijch (2009)


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Post by 3eyes » July 24th, 2011, 1:45 pm

Well, they say version 2 is going to be ready "this summer", whatever that means. Before the equinox? These things always take longer than planned, but. Say by the end of the year.

Point is, there will be new lists with movies not currently on any. I don't know how the personal lists thing is going to work, which lists will be eligible for "points" and which not, or how it will affect rankings (current "canon" of 7000 titles will increase substantially). -- Sorry to wander off, these are things I've been wondering about for a long time but decided I'd just have to wait and see.

And I'll probably wait and see and maybe essay some personal lists of movies I feel are unjustly omitted, for whatever good that will do.
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Post by allisoncm » July 24th, 2011, 1:51 pm

Yeah, I've been wondering all this too. It seems before version 2.0 comes out, they need donations for a server. So it could take much longer.

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Post by Dolwphin » July 24th, 2011, 9:48 pm

Kasparius on Jul 23 2011, 09:48:23 PM wrote:
Dolwphin on Jul 22 2011, 03:14:12 PM wrote:Flowing (Mikio Naruse,1956)
Artificial Light (Hollis Frampton, 1969)
Flowing is on Kinema Jumpo. Make sure your favorite isn't already on ICM.
Ok. I thought the movie could be on two lists, I probably misread something.

Then my choices are:

Artificial Light (Hollis Frampton)
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Skizbe (Artavazd Peleshyan) not Flowing
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Post by serri » July 24th, 2011, 11:48 pm

At Sea (2007)
False Aging (2008)
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Post by SeanMX12 » July 25th, 2011, 7:08 pm

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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » July 25th, 2011, 7:29 pm

3eyes on Jul 24 2011, 07:45:55 AM wrote:
Point is, there will be new lists with movies not currently on any. I don't know how the personal lists thing is going to work, which lists will be eligible for "points" and which not, or how it will affect rankings (current "canon" of 7000 titles will increase substantially). -- Sorry to wander off, these are things I've been wondering about for a long time but decided I'd just have to wait and see.





I believe they've already answered this. In future, there will be more official lists added, but aside from whichever lists are chosen by the admins, all of the personal lists added when it goes to 2.0 will not be official; they won't be official checks.

This strikes me as the correct (optimal) policy.

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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » July 25th, 2011, 7:37 pm

Men with Guns (1997)
L'ours (The Bear) (1988)
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Post by swoon » July 25th, 2011, 9:05 pm

Images (1972)
Night Nurse (1931)

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Post by George Bailey » July 25th, 2011, 9:20 pm

Great someone mentioned Doubt. Great film.

1. Tro, Håb, og Kærlighed
2. Transamerica

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Post by SeanMX12 » July 25th, 2011, 9:28 pm

We've got 42 movies so far.

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Post by allisoncm » July 25th, 2011, 11:42 pm

I guess we have to invite 4-10 more people.

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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » July 26th, 2011, 12:05 am

swoon on Jul 25 2011, 03:05:19 PM wrote:Images (1972)
Night Nurse (1931)
I just recently watched Night Nurse. I am sorry to say that I did not enjoy it as much as I thought I would, or as much as I usually enjoy pre-codes with big pre-codey reputations. Yes, two stunningly beautiful ladies, but the writing/plot! What a slapdash, amateurish mess!

Of course, I am not questioning your right to select it as a favorite off-lister-- hope that goes without saying -- just one movie-lover expressing an opinion to another. :)

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Post by monty » July 26th, 2011, 1:23 am

Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi on Jul 25 2011, 01:37:32 PM wrote:Men with Guns (1997)
I must say I was a tad disappointed with this Sayles outing, which felt overlong, poorly paced, overly didactic and lacking in dramatic impact. Still, Sayles deserves credit for having the guts to tackle a tough issue. However, to me, his best is still Matewan.

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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » July 26th, 2011, 1:28 am

monty on Jul 25 2011, 07:23:42 PM wrote:
Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi on Jul 25 2011, 01:37:32 PM wrote:Men with Guns (1997)
I must say I was a tad disappointed with this Sayles outing, which felt overlong, poorly paced, overly didactic and lacking in dramatic impact. Still, Sayles deserves credit for having the guts to tackle a tough issue. However, to me, his best is still Matewan.
I love Matewan on several levels, but think it's a little one-dimensional compared to his best films. Men with Guns is meant to be rambling and episodic; it's a journey in more than one sense. In one way, this helps Sayles avoid his most common pitfall: contrivedness. I thought Men with Guns was didactic in the best sense-- outraged and acerbic, but not pedantic.
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Post by monty » July 26th, 2011, 1:36 am

I found several things contrived - the American tourists in particular were a bit much.
And yes, Sayles has got a lot of important things to say about the sorry state of affairs in Latin America, but why did he have to go down the road of magical realism? It didn't work for me, sorry.

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Post by Cippenham » July 26th, 2011, 3:43 am

Has anyone seen many of these so far?
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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » July 26th, 2011, 4:04 am

monty on Jul 25 2011, 07:36:45 PM wrote:I found several things contrived - the American tourists in particular were a bit much.
And yes, Sayles has got a lot of important things to say about the sorry state of affairs in Latin America, but why did he have to go down the road of magical realism? It didn't work for me, sorry.
Well, that,
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the magical realism
, is saved for the end, and I can't say that the ending was my favorite part, either, though it keeps the film from reaching easy conclusions. And even though I love the film, it's the kind of movie that can induce great dislike in others and I can still understand/respect its critics. I can't say that about all movies I love, but there are a lot of risks in Men with Guns that I can easily see rubbing some discriminating viewers the wrong way.

I thought that the U.S. American tourists were only a little bit contrived
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when they are so easily duped by the child guide and seem to have a facile hunger for human sacrifices in history
, but there is a lot of truth to their lampooning. However, one of the most powerful moments comes from the fact that we are living in a world of Spanish being spoken all of the time, and then we get a visceral reaction when we suddenly hear American English being spoken, and when we realize just how much most American tourists have no clue about when it comes to the culture and politics of a foreign country. That is an important awakening experience-- the American as 'other,' and perhaps even the American as an oblivious part of the problem-- that most Americans never have.

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Post by swoon » July 26th, 2011, 4:29 am

Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi on Jul 25 2011, 06:05:12 PM wrote:
swoon on Jul 25 2011, 03:05:19 PM wrote:Images (1972)
Night Nurse (1931)
I just recently watched Night Nurse. I am sorry to say that I did not enjoy it as much as I thought I would, or as much as I usually enjoy pre-codes with big pre-codey reputations. Yes, two stunningly beautiful ladies, but the writing/plot! What a slapdash, amateurish mess!

Of course, I am not questioning your right to select it as a favorite off-lister-- hope that goes without saying -- just one movie-lover expressing an opinion to another. :)
the writing is fine it think, the way its delivered is more important. but it's a beautiful film - one of the best opening scenes this side of the letter and a tough complicated ending. i don't know what else you'd want from a film.

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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » July 26th, 2011, 4:32 am

swoon on Jul 25 2011, 10:29:36 PM wrote:
Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi on Jul 25 2011, 06:05:12 PM wrote:
swoon on Jul 25 2011, 03:05:19 PM wrote:Images (1972)
Night Nurse (1931)
I just recently watched Night Nurse. I am sorry to say that I did not enjoy it as much as I thought I would, or as much as I usually enjoy pre-codes with big pre-codey reputations. Yes, two stunningly beautiful ladies, but the writing/plot! What a slapdash, amateurish mess!

Of course, I am not questioning your right to select it as a favorite off-lister-- hope that goes without saying -- just one movie-lover expressing an opinion to another. :)
the writing is fine it think, the way its delivered is more important. but it's a beautiful film - one of the best opening scenes this side of the letter and a tough complicated ending. i don't know what else you'd want from a film.
I don't want to be a bother, but could you remind me of the opening scene?

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Post by sebby » July 26th, 2011, 4:44 am

If we're talking Sayles, I need to make the obligatory Lone Star mention. Love that movie.

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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » July 26th, 2011, 4:49 am

sebby on Jul 25 2011, 10:44:14 PM wrote:If we're talking Sayles, I need to make the obligatory Lone Star mention. Love that movie.
Agreed. It's the same formula as seen in three-quarters of his other films, but it works so much better in Lone Star than it does in most of the others.

The only scene that I recall feeling was a bit contrived was the one in which school representatives argue over the teaching of the Alamo. That said, God knows it's an important subject, especially in Texas where they seem to put all manner of ridiculous, uneducational things in textbooks just to appease the state's dominant far-right ideology.

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Post by monty » July 26th, 2011, 10:55 am

Cippenham on Jul 25 2011, 09:43:07 PM wrote:Has anyone seen many of these so far?
I've seen 22 of these.

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Post by marcelorenno » July 26th, 2011, 11:14 am

My 2 un-listed movies:

- O assalto ao trem pagador (1962)
- Revolutionary road (2008)

I'm glad too that someone mentioned "Doubt". The fact that neither "Doubt" or "Revolutionary road" were even nominated for Best Picture in a year that "Who wants to be a millionaire?" won 8 awards bothered me a little...

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Post by burneyfan » July 26th, 2011, 11:42 am

Cippenham on Jul 25 2011, 09:43:07 PM wrote:Has anyone seen many of these so far?
15 -- or 17, counting my own two -- or 18, counting one of Marcelo's new additions. I like how varied it is.

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Post by 3eyes » July 26th, 2011, 1:07 pm

I've seen 8 of those listed so far.

My two:

Mongolian ping pong (China 2005)
Land of plenty (2004)
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Post by swoon » July 26th, 2011, 2:50 pm

Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi on Jul 25 2011, 10:32:38 PM wrote:
swoon on Jul 25 2011, 10:29:36 PM wrote:
Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi on Jul 25 2011, 06:05:12 PM wrote:I just recently watched Night Nurse. I am sorry to say that I did not enjoy it as much as I thought I would, or as much as I usually enjoy pre-codes with big pre-codey reputations. Yes, two stunningly beautiful ladies, but the writing/plot! What a slapdash, amateurish mess!

Of course, I am not questioning your right to select it as a favorite off-lister-- hope that goes without saying -- just one movie-lover expressing an opinion to another. :)
the writing is fine it think, the way its delivered is more important. but it's a beautiful film - one of the best opening scenes this side of the letter and a tough complicated ending. i don't know what else you'd want from a film.
I don't want to be a bother, but could you remind me of the opening scene?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9jN9-6OURc

pretty good!

i should start a thread about opening scenes

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Post by allisoncm » July 26th, 2011, 6:22 pm

I've also seen around 17 (including my own!).

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Post by Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi » July 26th, 2011, 7:27 pm

swoon on Jul 26 2011, 08:50:25 AM wrote:
Local Hero -- aka MestnyiGeroi on Jul 25 2011, 10:32:38 PM wrote:
swoon on Jul 25 2011, 10:29:36 PM wrote:the writing is fine it think, the way its delivered is more important. but it's a beautiful film - one of the best opening scenes this side of the letter and a tough complicated ending. i don't know what else you'd want from a film.
I don't want to be a bother, but could you remind me of the opening scene?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9jN9-6OURc

pretty good!

i should start a thread about opening scenes
Thanks for the link. I assume you mean the very beginning, the shot from inside the speeding ambulance? Yes, that shot is rather effective even by today's standards, let alone 1931's.

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Post by SeanMX12 » July 26th, 2011, 7:41 pm

What are your opinions on Don Hertzfeldt? I Am So Proud of You would be my third selection. I'm hoping someone votes for it.

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Post by idiotwind » July 29th, 2011, 1:42 am

Play it Again, Sam (Woody Allen)
Stardust Memories (Woody Allen)
Rolling Thunder (1977)
Obsession (Depalma)

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Post by mjf314 » July 29th, 2011, 1:59 am

My nominations:

Galaxy Express 999 (1979)
Summer Time Machine Blues (2005)

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Post by SeanMX12 » July 29th, 2011, 3:20 am

Rolling Thunder and Obsession are on a list, Chris. Even though we're only counting your first two movies.

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Post by bjornam » July 29th, 2011, 3:48 am

Szürkület/Twilight (György Fehér, 1990)
Il deserto dei Tartari (Zurlini 1976)

If Dumont wasn't already included (good choice, ormazd), I'd pick L'humanité instead of the Zurlini, but for the sake of variety...

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