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Pretty confident of the top ten - everything after is essentially a runner up, though I do have everything here (except for the last spot) rated at least 8/10 on IMDB.

1. Watership Down
2. Days of Heaven
3. Superman: The Movie
4. Magic
5. I Spit on Your Grave
6. The Fury
7. Dawn of the Dead
8. Halloween
9. Drunken Master
10. The Deer Hunter

11. Invasion of the Body Snatchers
12. Autumn Sonata
13. The Tree of Wooden Clogs
14. Empire of Passion
15. Midnight Express
16. Coming Home
17. The Last Waltz
18. In a Year With 13 Moons
19. Meetings With Anna
20. Interiors

1. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078480/reference
2. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077405/reference
3. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078346/reference
4. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077889/reference
5. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077713/reference
6. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077588/reference
7. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077402/reference
8. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077651/reference
9. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080179/reference
10. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077416/reference

11. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077745/reference
12. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077711/reference
13. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077138/reference
14. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077132/reference
15. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077928/reference
16. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077362/reference
17. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077838/reference
18. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077729/reference
19. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078152/reference
20. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077742/reference
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Perception de Ambiguity wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 2:57 pm Can I post the list of URLs for viktor-vaudevillain's list?
Well, here it is (ranked):
That's what I just wanted to do :thumbsup:

OldAle1 wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 1:37 pm Left off because they suck ass - what are y'all thinking :lol: ? The Deer Hunter; Grease
hehe, I wasn't sure if you meant Deer Hunter oder Midnight Express when you ominously dissed a title from my list.
Not that it will change your opinion (it shouldn't), but Deer Hunter: IMDb 8.1, Oscar BP, TSPDT #160, S&S #222, 1001BYD, AFI 100, Cahiers 100, Taschen 100, Leo Maltin 100, Dave Thomson, Guardian ... Grease has almost no critical acclaim (not of that size at least) and is rather a cult film, hated by many, loved by some. It's not that we are the exception to the rule for Deer Hunter - you are. :D

A few things yet to see that could be good... Coma; Gates of Heaven; Die gläserne Zelle; In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden; Midnight Express; Pretty Baby; Watership Down;
It astonishes me how many of your titles left to see are among the more popular titles of this year, and that at over 100 titles seen. :huh:
Things like Midnight Express and Watership Down have 5000 or 7000 checks! (Besides the arthouse / ICM love for Fassbinder) Where've you been the last 40 years? :sweat:
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Torgo wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 8:03 pm
OldAle1 wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 1:37 pm Left off because they suck ass - what are y'all thinking :lol: ? The Deer Hunter; Grease
hehe, I wasn't sure if you meant Deer Hunter oder Midnight Express when you ominously dissed a title from my list.
Not that it will change your opinion (it shouldn't), but Deer Hunter: IMDb 8.1, Oscar BP, TSPDT #160, S&S #222, 1001BYD, AFI 100, Cahiers 100, Taschen 100, Leo Maltin 100, Dave Thomson, Guardian ... Grease has almost no critical acclaim (not of that size at least) and is rather a cult film, hated by many, loved by some. It's not that we are the exception to the rule for Deer Hunter - you are. :D
Realizing that The Deer Hunter has its fair share of fans around here (and in general), OldAle definitely isn't alone in his views on this film. I've bashed it previously on this forum, but suffice to say that for me 20-30 minutes of decent but unspectacular Vietnam War/POW/Russian roulette content comes nowhere near making up for the 2.5+ hours of boring, self indulgent crap that takes up the rest of this movie and wastes an excellent cast. I gave this one a second chance with as open a mind as possible - which, considering the outrageous run time, was probably generous - and sadly my view didn't change at all. Normally I'm not quite this harsh but it tends to come out on the rare occasions I think a highly acclaimed film is a real clunker.
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AB537 wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 9:23 pm
Torgo wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 8:03 pm
OldAle1 wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 1:37 pm Left off because they suck ass - what are y'all thinking :lol: ? The Deer Hunter; Grease
hehe, I wasn't sure if you meant Deer Hunter oder Midnight Express when you ominously dissed a title from my list.
Not that it will change your opinion (it shouldn't), but Deer Hunter: IMDb 8.1, Oscar BP, TSPDT #160, S&S #222, 1001BYD, AFI 100, Cahiers 100, Taschen 100, Leo Maltin 100, Dave Thomson, Guardian ... Grease has almost no critical acclaim (not of that size at least) and is rather a cult film, hated by many, loved by some. It's not that we are the exception to the rule for Deer Hunter - you are. :D
Realizing that The Deer Hunter has its fair share of fans around here (and in general), OldAle definitely isn't alone in his views on this film. I've bashed it previously on this forum, but suffice to say that for me 20-30 minutes of decent but unspectacular Vietnam War/POW/Russian roulette content comes nowhere near making up for the 2.5+ hours of boring, self indulgent crap that takes up the rest of this movie and wastes an excellent cast. I gave this one a second chance with as open a mind as possible - which, considering the outrageous run time, was probably generous - and sadly my view didn't change at all. Normally I'm not quite this harsh but it tends to come out on the rare occasions I think a highly acclaimed film is a real clunker.
As a geography enthusiast (and a Pennsylvanian), I'm still mad that I spent the first half of Deer Hunter trying to unfold what I thought was a complex mystery of the plot having to do with De Niro and friends driving all the way from Pennsylvania to Washington state in merely a few hours.
Then I realized it was only because Cimino thought the Cascades were prettier than the Appalachians. :verymad:
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1. Killer of Sheep
2. L'albero degli zoccoli |The Tree of Wooden Clogs
3. Days of Heaven
4. L'hypothèse du tableau volé | The Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting
5. Gates of Heaven
6. In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden | In a Year with 13 Moons
7. Les rendez-vous d'Anna | The Meetings of Anna
8. Passe ton bac d'abord... | Graduate First
9. An Unmarried Woman
10. Ang tatay kong nanay | My Father, My Mother
11. The Scenic Route
12. Höstsonaten | Autumn Sonata
13. Girlfriends
14. Sürü | The Herd
15. In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni
16. Wodzirej | Top Dog
17. Blue Collar
18. Despair
19. Panna a netvor | Beauty and the Beast
20. Perceval le Gallois | Perceval
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We're coming down to the deadline, so please submit your ballot if you are still planning to do so. (If you happen to miss the deadline, please submit your ballot anyway; it might be accepted, and the worst that can happen is that it won't be accepted because I've finished counting the ballots.)

Regarding the issue of submitting URLs for participants who haven't done so, I've decided not to accept such lists without them being specifically approved by the original participant themselves. My main justification for this is that if the person's list had been final, they would have added the URLs themselves, so if they didn't add the URLs, that implies that they didn't consider the list final.
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I always think the deadlines are a few more days away then they are...hopefully this isn't too late.

edit: just realized I never rated Invasion of the Body Snatchers on IMDb (though I had it checked on ICM, weirdly).

1. Days of Heaven
2. Killer of Sheep
3. Dawn of the Dead
4. Watership Down
5. Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting
6. The Deer Hunter
7. The Tree of Wooden Clogs
8. Autumn Sonata
9. The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith
10. Gates of Heaven
11. Invasion of the Body Snatchers
12. Cesaree [sh.]
13. Foul Play
14. The Silent Partner
15. Perceval le Gallois
16. The Birdcage
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Kind of surprised I couldn't come up with a top 20 for this year...only 22 films seen (really liking 15/22 ain't bad though).

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gromit82 wrote: July 23rd, 2021, 12:54 am Regarding the issue of submitting URLs for participants who haven't done so, I've decided not to accept such lists without them being specifically approved by the original participant themselves. My main justification for this is that if the person's list had been final, they would have added the URLs themselves, so if they didn't add the URLs, that implies that they didn't consider the list final.
Not a fan of this decision. viktor posted a clearly ordered lists, complete with directors to avoid confusion. What's the worse case: counting his Top 19 he might have changed a bit or disregarding his contribution altogether? Mh.
Plus, his last activity on the forum is more than 4 days ago, so it seems unlikely he would react fast enough to a PM informing him on his URL duties. I really think he just forgot (or was too lazy :ph43r: ) - maybe reconsider that?
viktor-vaudevillain wrote: July 9th, 2021, 12:17 pm 1. Césarée (Marguerite Duras)
2. Les mains négatives (Marguerite Duras)
3. The Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting (Raul Ruiz)
4. Brutal Ardour (Manuel Huerga)
5. My Way Home (Bill Douglas)
6. Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett)
7. The Dancing Hawk (Grzegorz Królikiewicz)
8. Days of Heaven (Terence Malick)
9. Getting to Know the Big Wide World (Kira Muratova)
10. Empire of Passion (Nagisa Ôshima)
11. Ten Minutes Older (Herz Frank)
12. Trio A (Yvonne Rainer)*
13. Offering (Claudio Caldini)
14. Autumn Sonata (Ingmar Bergman)
15. The Tree of Wooden Clogs (Ermanno Olmi)
16. Gates of Heaven (Errol Morris)
17. In a Year with 13 Moons (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
18. Liquid Crystals (Jean Painlevé)
19. Watership Down (Martin Rosen)

* not on IMDb
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Torgo wrote: July 23rd, 2021, 2:42 am
gromit82 wrote: July 23rd, 2021, 12:54 am Regarding the issue of submitting URLs for participants who haven't done so, I've decided not to accept such lists without them being specifically approved by the original participant themselves. My main justification for this is that if the person's list had been final, they would have added the URLs themselves, so if they didn't add the URLs, that implies that they didn't consider the list final.
Not a fan of this decision. viktor posted a clearly ordered lists, complete with directors to avoid confusion. What's the worse case: counting his Top 19 he might have changed a bit or disregarding his contribution altogether? Mh.
Plus, his last activity on the forum is more than 4 days ago, so it seems unlikely he would react fast enough to a PM informing him on his URL duties. I really think he just forgot (or was too lazy :ph43r: ) - maybe reconsider that?
For what it's worth, practically speaking, he (and the other people who haven't posted their URLs), plus anyone else who still wants to vote, have an extension because I've taken a break from counting ballots for the night.
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I think this is the only year from the 70s I haven’t seen a Giallo film from. Usually I would vote for at least one of those.
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Hi there, gromit. Thanks for hosting.

I had meant to post my list yesterday, but ended up having an early night after a long day. Since there appears to be something of an extension, I'll jump in this morning with my list (and hope it'll be in time). Weak enough year, going on what I've listed (admittedly I have left out plenty of biggies that I saw yonks ago and need to rewatch). Only masterpieces in my selection are the top two, the rest of the top half are very good though, while the entries of the bottom half are fun, enjoyable, distinctive enough in their own ways that I have remembered each one with fondness.

20 favourites (ranked):

01. Khutwa Khutwa (Ossama Mohammed)
02. Par desmit minutem vecaks (Herz Frank)
03. Den rozhdeniya (Rasim Ojagov)
04. A State of Siege (Vincent Ward)
05. Kugitangskaya tragediya (Kakov Orazsyakhedov, Yazgeldy Seidov)

06. An Unmarried Woman (Paul Mazursky)
07. The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith (Fred Schepisi)
08. The Thirty Nine Steps (Don Sharp)
09. Pretty Baby (Louis Malle)
10. Les raisins de la mort (Jean Rollin)

11. Special Delivery (Eunice Macaulay, John Weldon)
12. Same Time, Next Year (Robert Mulligan)
13. Satyam Shivam Sundaram: Love Sublime (Raj Kapoor)
14. Ofrenda (Claudio Caldini)
15. Remember My Name (Alan Rudolph)

16. Pati Patni Aur Woh (B.R. Chopra)
17. Marie Ann (Martin Walters)
18. Foul Play (Colin Higgins)
19. The Silent Partner (Daryl Duke)
20. Yubiley dante (Gyulbeniz Yusuf Azimzade, Anar Rzayev)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1767323/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018920/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0173764/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0872337/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1631741/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078444/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077318/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078389/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078111/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078077/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206312/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078199/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078204/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4511500/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078150/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0158845/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079532/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077578/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078269/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1493313/


:cheers:
That's all, folks!
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OldAle1 wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 1:37 pm 2. The Scenic Route (Mark Rappaport)
Niiice
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Left off because they suck ass - what are y'all thinking :lol: ? [b]The Deer Hunter; Grease[/b]

You put it more succinctly than Pauline Kael "I spent so long at that wedding I thought I should have brought a present" :lol: :D

Must say the GREASE love has cheered me up immensely though :thumbsup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS7VESwPvDU
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AB537 wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 9:23 pm
Torgo wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 8:03 pm
OldAle1 wrote: July 22nd, 2021, 1:37 pm Left off because they suck ass - what are y'all thinking :lol: ? The Deer Hunter; Grease
hehe, I wasn't sure if you meant Deer Hunter oder Midnight Express when you ominously dissed a title from my list.
Not that it will change your opinion (it shouldn't), but Deer Hunter: IMDb 8.1, Oscar BP, TSPDT #160, S&S #222, 1001BYD, AFI 100, Cahiers 100, Taschen 100, Leo Maltin 100, Dave Thomson, Guardian ... Grease has almost no critical acclaim (not of that size at least) and is rather a cult film, hated by many, loved by some. It's not that we are the exception to the rule for Deer Hunter - you are. :D
Realizing that The Deer Hunter has its fair share of fans around here (and in general), OldAle definitely isn't alone in his views on this film. I've bashed it previously on this forum, but suffice to say that for me 20-30 minutes of decent but unspectacular Vietnam War/POW/Russian roulette content comes nowhere near making up for the 2.5+ hours of boring, self indulgent crap that takes up the rest of this movie and wastes an excellent cast. I gave this one a second chance with as open a mind as possible - which, considering the outrageous run time, was probably generous - and sadly my view didn't change at all. Normally I'm not quite this harsh but it tends to come out on the rare occasions I think a highly acclaimed film is a real clunker.
Well put. For the record I don't HATE either of those two films, I just feel much the same as you do about TDH - and it's saved from terrible-ness mostly by great cinematography and great performances by Streep and De Niro (I love Walken generally but as I remember his perf here was really nothing that special).

As for Grease, I'm not sure entirely why but rock-n-roll musicals of this era are all just really bad or mediocre to me - possibly excepting Tommy which I last saw in 1982 and can't really comment on. I think that film, Grease and Hair maybe get the props they do mostly because there are so many much worse genre examples from the period like Xanadu and Sgt Peppers - they look pretty good in comparison to these all-time turkeys.

Been dreading Midnight Express for decades - the two people I've most trusted about film over my life both hated it, and I have mixed feelings about Alan Parker to begin with. I'm sure I'll suffer through it eventually though and given my low expectations it'll probably not be that bad.
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01. Le vent des amoureux
02. Vertical Features Remake
03. In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden
04. Perceval le Gallois
05. The Whole Shootin' Match
06. Roulement, rouerie, aubage
07. My Way Home
08. The Scenic Route
09. Amor de Perdição: Memórias de uma Família
10. Les rendez-vous d'Anna
11. Thampu
12. Passe ton bac d'abord...
13. Grand Opera: An Historical Romance
14. Veredas
15. Killer of Sheep
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OldAle1 wrote: July 23rd, 2021, 2:47 pm As for Grease, I'm not sure entirely why but rock-n-roll musicals of this era are all just really bad or mediocre to me - possibly excepting Tommy which I last saw in 1982 and can't really comment on. I think that film, Grease and Hair maybe get the props they do mostly because there are so many much worse genre examples from the period like Xanadu and Sgt Peppers - they look pretty good in comparison to these all-time turkeys.
Grease has some great music and spirited dance moves, but the central message of the film is pretty horrid (you should conform/change yourself to win over a guy). I've seen the film twice over the years (once younger; once older) and it was definitely much harder to sit through the second time round.

I haven't seen The Deer Hunter in ages. I can only echo the disappointment of others; not a bad film, but not something I'd jump to place inside my top 20.
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OldAle1 wrote: July 23rd, 2021, 2:47 pm Been dreading Midnight Express for decades - the two people I've most trusted about film over my life both hated it, and I have mixed feelings about Alan Parker to begin with. I'm sure I'll suffer through it eventually though and given my low expectations it'll probably not be that bad.
It's awful, profoundly racist and stupid. 'MURICA! the movie. Oliver Stone has since apologized for writing it, and the real Billy Hayes has apologized on behalf of the film and attacked Stone and Parker for misrepresenting his experiences to fit a more racist narrative.

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In case I'm not too late

1 The Deer Hunter
2 In einem Jahr mit 13 Monden
3 Days of Heaven
4 L'albero degli zoccoli
5 Vertical Features Remake
6 Agarrando pueblo
7 37/78: Tree Again
8 Killer of Sheep
9 Höstsonaten
10 Dawn of the Dead
11 Panna a netvor
12 Les rendez-vous d'Anna
13 L'hypothèse du tableau volé

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The poll is closed. I expect to be able to post the results later today.
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