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According to Amazon, the newest edition of 1001 Movies to see before you die was just released today October 1, 2012. I couldn't find a discussion devoted to the list, so I thought I might start one, as it is currently the guiding force in my movie watching career.

How long do you think it will take to update the list?

Any predictions on additions/exclusions on the newest edition?

Does this list still compare favorably with some of the other official lists such as Halliwell, TSPDT, and the New York Times 1000?
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It'll be 2011 films entering so I'd expect most of the following:

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (this is certain, 'cause it's used for the cover art!)
The Artist
A Separation
Drive
Midnight in Paris
Once Upon a Time in Anatolia
The Tree of Life
Melancholia
The Turin Horse
Shame
We Need to Talk About Kevin
Le Havre
The Kid on the Bike
Hugo

I think it's a generally good list. Obviously no list of this length is perfect, there's some strange inclusions & omissions. It's a good introduction to big range of cinema & they keep it up-to-date to attract new cinephiles, which is good. I have a copy of one of the earlier editions & got some great pointers from it.

The comments on ICM about the last update are from '1 year ago', so I'm sure it'll update as soon as someone lists the changes online
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Yeah, that's a good list overall, not as good as TSPDT, but probably better than the other long ones you mentioned.
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This list started my movie addiction.
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Neither a prude nor politically correct!
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3rd on Oct 1 2012, 02:29:02 PM wrote:http://www.matthewhunt.com/blog/text/1001movies2012.pdf
Thanks!
Did anyone find which titles are new in this edition? Of course some of the recent movies, but there are always some changes some years back. I'll start going through the list to find new titles, but if anyone knows it already, please let me know...
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brokenface on Oct 1 2012, 11:39:16 AM wrote:Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (this is certain, 'cause it's used for the cover art!)
The Artist
A Separation
Drive
Midnight in Paris
Once Upon a Time in Anatolia
The Tree of Life
Melancholia
The Turin Horse
Shame
We Need to Talk About Kevin
Le Havre
The Kid on the Bike
Hugo
Wasn't too far off.

Didn't guess Bridesmaids, Dragon Tattoo, War Horse, Descendants

And they didn't pick Melancholia, Midnight in Paris, Turin Horse, Anatolia or Kevin.

Frankly, they should let me pick the films :P
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It's a nice list, I like how they update it with the latest films. I also find it a tempting list because of it's name. Totally ridiculous, but it's true :P

I would've liked Anatolia and Melancholia on there though.
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What are the movies taken off? Those are always the most revealing, because it shows how the list slowly deteriorates year to year.
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I went through the whole list and there are no other additions than at the end of the list:
Senna (2010)
Le Havre (2011)
Shame (2011)
The Tree Of Life (2011)
The Kid With A Bike (2011)
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (2011)
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (2011)
Drive (2011)
War Horse (2011)
A Separation (2011)
Bridesmaids (2011)
The Descendants (2011)
Hugo (2011)
The Artist (2011)
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How about Fanny och Alexander? I don't see it on the iCM version.
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Fifteen films have been removed, the oldest being Moulin Rouge!, The Pianist, and Irreversible. The Passion Of The Christ, first deleted in 2009, then reinstated in 2011, has been deleted again.

I found a blog with a link to the new list if anyone want to work out what has also gone:

http://blog.matthewhunt.com/2012/09/100 ... u-die.html
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noruas on Oct 2 2012, 06:33:01 AM wrote:How about Fanny och Alexander? I don't see it on the iCM version.
You're right. It wasn't in the 7th edition, but it has been before that. So it seems it is back again. I keep a list of titles from all editions:
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/1001+ ... /joachimt/
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as far as I can work out, the exits are:

The Pianist
Uzak
Kill Bill Vol 1
The Best of Youth
The Passion of the Christ
Paradise Now
Apocalypto
Borat
Once
District 9 mistake - means there's something else gone if there are 15 new entries..
Fish Tank
The Hangover
In the Loop
Four Lions
Monsters

Delighted to see Uzak & Once booted off :D
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Note: only looked at the films since 2000 so there could be earlier changes. Moulin Rouge & Irreversible were already off the list last time.
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That's not really much of a deterioration as far as I'm concerned even though it's sad to see The Pianist and In the Loop replaced by Bridesmaids and Hugo.
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Agreed. The only mystery is how the hell Paranormal Activity survived the cut :huh:

edit: just noticed District 9 is still there, so that's an error by me.
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joachimt on Oct 2 2012, 03:56:16 AM wrote:I went through the whole list and there are no other additions than at the end of the list:
Senna (2010)
Le Havre (2011)
Shame (2011)
The Tree Of Life (2011)
The Kid With A Bike (2011)
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (2011)
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (2011)
Drive (2011)
War Horse (2011)
A Separation (2011)
Bridesmaids (2011)
The Descendants (2011)
Hugo (2011)
The Artist (2011)
Thank you for the recap, I'm trying to watch the new additions on this list every year as they are available.
I'm missing some of those, I'll start from "Le Havre" asap :)
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brokenface on Oct 2 2012, 07:21:15 AM wrote:The only mystery is how the hell Paranormal Activity survived the cut :huh:
That's really Paranormal :lol:
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I have the book at home and love it!
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onshy on Oct 2 2012, 07:23:03 AM wrote:Thank you for the recap, I'm trying to watch the new additions on this list every year as they are available.
I'm missing some of those, I'll start from "Le Havre" asap :)
Le Havre is ace. Very glad it was included.

The new ones I need to see are Kid With a Bike & War Horse.
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brokenface on Oct 2 2012, 07:12:41 AM wrote:as far as I can work out, the exits are:

The Pianist
Uzak
Kill Bill Vol 1
The Best of Youth
The Passion of the Christ
Paradise Now
Apocalypto
Borat
Once
District 9 mistake - means there's something else gone if there are 15 new entries..
Fish Tank
The Hangover
In the Loop
Four Lions
Monsters

Delighted to see Uzak & Once booted off :D
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Note: only looked at the films since 2000 so there could be earlier changes. Moulin Rouge & Irreversible were already off the list last time.
Glad about Apocalypto, attempting to watch it but will need several pauses for me to get through it.
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On the old list I am 89 short if completing them all and that may increase slightly from what I can see.
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I'm just glad best of youth kicked it, it may be quality but I already watched one 6 hour film on this list (Les Vampires) and wasn't looking forward to a second
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Cippenham on [/quote wrote:Glad about Apocalypto, attempting to watch it but will need several pauses for me to get through it.
Yeah, that's a crap film.
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As best I can count, the new one is the 9th edition.

Fanny & Alexander should've been on the list all along, there's an error somewhere (it's in the index of the old edition which you can browse on Amazon, page 949), but I have no idea what should be replaced.
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Fanny & Alexander definitely used to be in the book. I just looked at the one on my shelf & it's in there (I think mine is the 4th edition from 2007). Wonder if they cut it as it was originally made as 4-part TV miniseries rather than a movie? Though Dekalog is there, so that wouldn't really add up.

There's plenty that could be cut to fit it in. I think most people could happily die without having seen Top Gun, for example!
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Fanny & Alexander has been in every edition. (It's page 688 in the new 2012 version).

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(I wrote the blog post linked in earlier comments. I've bought this book ever since 2003, the 1st edition, and have put the lists for each edition from 2005 onwards online.)
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Are you sure it was in the 2010 edition?
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Mat, the list you linked here is the Kinema Junpo's 1999 poll, isn't it? Not so significant after all, I don't speak japanese! :lol:
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I received some info about four additional titles from the 2009 Swedish edition. The complete list I found so far is now counting 1208 titles:
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/1001+ ... /joachimt/
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joachimt on Oct 9 2012, 03:58:16 AM wrote:I received some info about four additional titles from the 2009 Swedish edition. The complete list I found so far is now counting 1208 titles:
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/1001+ ... /joachimt/
Funny enough I have seen 999 of those 1208 so the next I watch would be the 1000th!
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Cippenham on Oct 9 2012, 04:20:55 AM wrote:
joachimt on Oct 9 2012, 03:58:16 AM wrote:I received some info about four additional titles from the 2009 Swedish edition. The complete list I found so far is now counting 1208 titles:
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/1001+ ... /joachimt/
Funny enough I have seen 999 of those 1208 so the next I watch would be the 1000th!
The magic number is 1001 here. ^_^

I've seen 1149. A lot of unofficial checks though.
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joachimt on Oct 9 2012, 03:58:16 AM wrote:I received some info about four additional titles from the 2009 Swedish edition. The complete list I found so far is now counting 1208 titles:
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/1001+ ... /joachimt/
There's a Danish version as well. From the online bookstores I've checked, it looks like there have been 3 editions (1st is from 2007, 3rd is from 2009). The only specific info I could glean from those sites is that the Danish movies Kundskabens Træ and En Soap are included (I took this from the blurb on the 1 st Ed).

A listology list yields these titles: Nattevagten, Idioterne, Den Eneste Ene and Bænken.

This site lists the films with female directors and mentions Cafe Paradis.

That's all I've been able to dig up.
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Thanks!
I'll add them to the list.
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The Guys Response
Hi,

Could you provide us with a little bit more information? Which 1001 top list? Can you create a list of IMDb urls of the new and deleted entries? And also the place in the list for the new entries?

Cheers,

The iCheckMovies team
I sent a request to the guys to update this list with the new entries, as well as to swap Fanny and Alexander for Kill Bill Volume 1, which was done last edition. They sent the above response, but as I've never created a list and am unfamiliar with how the system processes, I was hoping for a little guidance. The updates are below
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I was hoping to help out in updating the 1001 top list. The new edition just came out and I have the changes listed below. Hope this helps you folks out


So the 15 deletions are: Kill Bill vol. 1, Uzak, The Pianist, The Best Of Youth, The Passion Of The Christ, Paradise Now, Borat, Apocalypto, Once, The Good The Bad & The Weird, The Hangover, In The Loop, Fish Tank, Monsters, Four Lions, .

And the 15 new entries are: Fanny and Alexander, Senna, Le Havre, Shame, The Tree Of Life, The Kid With A Bike, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Drive, War Horse, A Separation, Bridesmaids, The Descendants, Hugo, The Artist.
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esiersdale on Oct 12 2012, 02:22:39 PM wrote:
The Guys Response
Hi,

Could you provide us with a little bit more information? Which 1001 top list? Can you create a list of IMDb urls of the new and deleted entries? And also the place in the list for the new entries?

Cheers,

The iCheckMovies team
I sent a request to the guys to update this list with the new entries, as well as to swap Fanny and Alexander for Kill Bill Volume 1, which was done last edition. They sent the above response, but as I've never created a list and am unfamiliar with how the system processes, I was hoping for a little guidance. The updates are below
Updates
I was hoping to help out in updating the 1001 top list. The new edition just came out and I have the changes listed below. Hope this helps you folks out


So the 15 deletions are: Kill Bill vol. 1, Uzak, The Pianist, The Best Of Youth, The Passion Of The Christ, Paradise Now, Borat, Apocalypto, Once, The Good The Bad & The Weird, The Hangover, In The Loop, Fish Tank, Monsters, Four Lions, .

And the 15 new entries are: Fanny and Alexander, Senna, Le Havre, Shame, The Tree Of Life, The Kid With A Bike, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Drive, War Horse, A Separation, Bridesmaids, The Descendants, Hugo, The Artist.

It's much easier if you give them the whole new list, preferably with imdb links. Also provide a link to the current list so they know what you're talking about. I could do it later this weekend if you don't want to.
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PeacefulAnarchy on Oct 12 2012, 06:54:52 PM wrote:
esiersdale on Oct 12 2012, 02:22:39 PM wrote:
The Guys Response
Hi,

Could you provide us with a little bit more information? Which 1001 top list? Can you create a list of IMDb urls of the new and deleted entries? And also the place in the list for the new entries?

Cheers,

The iCheckMovies team
I sent a request to the guys to update this list with the new entries, as well as to swap Fanny and Alexander for Kill Bill Volume 1, which was done last edition. They sent the above response, but as I've never created a list and am unfamiliar with how the system processes, I was hoping for a little guidance. The updates are below
Updates
I was hoping to help out in updating the 1001 top list. The new edition just came out and I have the changes listed below. Hope this helps you folks out


So the 15 deletions are: Kill Bill vol. 1, Uzak, The Pianist, The Best Of Youth, The Passion Of The Christ, Paradise Now, Borat, Apocalypto, Once, The Good The Bad & The Weird, The Hangover, In The Loop, Fish Tank, Monsters, Four Lions, .

And the 15 new entries are: Fanny and Alexander, Senna, Le Havre, Shame, The Tree Of Life, The Kid With A Bike, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Drive, War Horse, A Separation, Bridesmaids, The Descendants, Hugo, The Artist.

It's much easier if you give them the whole new list, preferably with imdb links. Also provide a link to the current list so they know what you're talking about. I could do it later this weekend if you don't want to.
That'd be great. For my first list work I'd rather work something that is less official and less than 1000 movies long
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esiersdale on Oct 13 2012, 12:56:00 PM wrote:That'd be great. For my first list work I'd rather work something that is less official and less than 1000 movies long
OK, I should have it done soon, then I'll post it here and hopefully you can check it before I send it off to the guys.
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Here's the list:
http://www.imdb.com/list/h6wumRsncoQ/
I've double checked everything before 1970 and after 1995. I'll check the rest later, but if someone wants to take a look that would be nice.

Also, there are a few films that should have multiple entries:
Olympia
Ivan The Terrible
Dog Star Man
Lord of The Rings

For the moment I left just the first film, as that's what's currently on ICM, though it doesn't match how ICM does other entries for them. Thoughts?
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It is better to just have 1001 films on the 1001 list, as it is now.
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