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Lonewolf2003 wrote: January 8th, 2021, 11:34 am
Harco wrote: January 8th, 2021, 10:24 am
Prat wrote: January 8th, 2021, 9:55 am New official lists just appeared !
Sector Cine's Best Mexican Films of All Time : https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/sect ... +all+time/
Pixar Directors Recommend: Films to Watch with Kids Under 13 : https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/pixa ... +under+13/

(I posted in the wrong topic before, sorry ;) )
Regarding the Pixar list, the All Ages list on Letterboxd has Shaun the Sheep: The Movie listed, while the iCM list has the series listed. Which site has got it wrong?
The Letterboxd list is the source, so that one is correct. Corrected the iCM list. Thanks for noticing.
It should be the series, not the movie. See the note in the Letterboxd list.
Selected by Valerie LaPointe — not this feature film, but the animated television series from 2007.
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I noticed something else: Is the IndieWire Women-Directed films list official again? https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/indi ... +by+women/

I thought we made that unofficial once the BBC list came out, but it's showing up on the official lists page again.
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beasterne wrote: January 8th, 2021, 4:10 pm I noticed something else: Is the IndieWire Women-Directed films list official again? https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/indi ... +by+women/

I thought we made that unofficial once the BBC list came out, but it's showing up on the official lists page again.
Maybe it's a bug. I'll ask Marijn.
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That explains why the total is now 212. There must be another returnee.
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mjf314 wrote: January 8th, 2021, 4:10 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote: January 8th, 2021, 11:34 am
Harco wrote: January 8th, 2021, 10:24 am

Regarding the Pixar list, the All Ages list on Letterboxd has Shaun the Sheep: The Movie listed, while the iCM list has the series listed. Which site has got it wrong?
The Letterboxd list is the source, so that one is correct. Corrected the iCM list. Thanks for noticing.
It should be the series, not the movie. See the note in the Letterboxd list.
Selected by Valerie LaPointe — not this feature film, but the animated television series from 2007.
Okay, thanks. Corrected it again.
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That's odd. My progress page displays 212 official lists, it was 210 two-three hours ago.

IndieWire Women-Directed films is the 211th but I can't find the other one
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It was 210 when i adapted the download scripts ... weird
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I'm pretty sure it's the old Russian List that's back. It was the LiveJournal one that was made unofficial, correct? https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/live ... an+movies/
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pitchorneirda wrote: January 8th, 2021, 4:22 pm That's odd. My progress page displays 212 official lists, it was 210 two-three hours ago.

IndieWire Women-Directed films is the 211th but I can't find the other one
Edit : beaten by :hug: beasterne :hug:
Livejournal's 100 Best Russian Movies it seems ....
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mjf314 wrote: January 8th, 2021, 4:10 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote: January 8th, 2021, 11:34 am
Harco wrote: January 8th, 2021, 10:24 am

Regarding the Pixar list, the All Ages list on Letterboxd has Shaun the Sheep: The Movie listed, while the iCM list has the series listed. Which site has got it wrong?
The Letterboxd list is the source, so that one is correct. Corrected the iCM list. Thanks for noticing.
It should be the series, not the movie. See the note in the Letterboxd list.
Selected by Valerie LaPointe — not this feature film, but the animated television series from 2007.
Ah, was wondering where you'd found that, but turns out you have to visit the desktop site.

EDIT: Oh, on the app you have to click on the pair of glasses.
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To be clear both the Indiewire's Directed by Women and Livejournal's 100 Best Russian Movies shouldn't be official. That's a bug. Marijn has been notified. We didn't suddenly decide to ununadopt these lists.
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mjf314 wrote: January 8th, 2021, 4:10 pm
Lonewolf2003 wrote: January 8th, 2021, 11:34 am
Harco wrote: January 8th, 2021, 10:24 am

Regarding the Pixar list, the All Ages list on Letterboxd has Shaun the Sheep: The Movie listed, while the iCM list has the series listed. Which site has got it wrong?
The Letterboxd list is the source, so that one is correct. Corrected the iCM list. Thanks for noticing.
It should be the series, not the movie. See the note in the Letterboxd list.
Selected by Valerie LaPointe — not this feature film, but the animated television series from 2007.
Then it shouldn't be on the list at all. Films to watch with kids not TV-shows to watch with kids.
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Torgo wrote: January 8th, 2021, 4:03 pm And the Shaun the Sheep Movie became official, how cool is that?
Way to spoil my excitement, guys .. <_< :lol:
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jeroeno wrote: January 8th, 2021, 5:59 pm Then it shouldn't be on the list at all. Films to watch with kids not TV-shows to watch with kids.
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Not that I want to debate this, but for me personally, that definition is watered down already by so many cartoons on the list and stuff like Bambi Meets Godzilla. As much a proper film for me as many Shaun the Sheep short films (=the series). :ph43r:
Just stick to the movie and act like we did never discovered all of that. :whistling:
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Edit: nevermind, already addressed above. :)
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Torgo wrote: January 8th, 2021, 7:25 pm
Torgo wrote: January 8th, 2021, 4:03 pm And the Shaun the Sheep Movie became official, how cool is that?
Way to spoil my excitement, guys .. <_< :lol:
Shouldn't you be happy that there's even more Shaun the Sheep for you to enjoy?
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And that they didn't include something like Sesame Street! :P
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xianjiro wrote: January 9th, 2021, 1:38 am And that they didn't include something like Sesame Street! :P
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Well, it is kinda weird to include only one TV-series and ignore all the other iconic TV-series for kids. Sesame Street is obvious. Pat & Mat should be there then. Etc...
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joachimt wrote: January 9th, 2021, 9:08 am
xianjiro wrote: January 9th, 2021, 1:38 am And that they didn't include something like Sesame Street! :P
Spoiler
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Well, it is kinda weird to include only one TV-series and ignore all the other iconic TV-series for kids. Sesame Street is obvious. Pat & Mat should be there then. Etc...
yeah, but how would we ever be able to check Sesame Street? At least we should be able to get all those Shawn Loves the Sheep episodes.
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xianjiro wrote: January 9th, 2021, 9:33 am
joachimt wrote: January 9th, 2021, 9:08 am
xianjiro wrote: January 9th, 2021, 1:38 am And that they didn't include something like Sesame Street! :P
Spoiler
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Well, it is kinda weird to include only one TV-series and ignore all the other iconic TV-series for kids. Sesame Street is obvious. Pat & Mat should be there then. Etc...
yeah, but how would we ever be able to check Sesame Street? At least we should be able to get all those Shawn Loves the Sheep episodes.
Sure, but I don't think Pixar was considering the "what constitutes a check" discussion when they selected the movies. :P
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joachimt wrote: January 9th, 2021, 9:49 am
xianjiro wrote: January 9th, 2021, 9:33 am
joachimt wrote: January 9th, 2021, 9:08 am
Well, it is kinda weird to include only one TV-series and ignore all the other iconic TV-series for kids. Sesame Street is obvious. Pat & Mat should be there then. Etc...
yeah, but how would we ever be able to check Sesame Street? At least we should be able to get all those Shawn Loves the Sheep episodes.
Sure, but I don't think Pixar was considering the "what constitutes a check" discussion when they selected the movies. :P
yah think? :thumbsup:
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That new kids list is disappointing with so many obvious titles and the rest being so US centric. Would have been great to have something less mainstream or greater, a meta list off kids lists from various countries around the world.

In the introductory text of the list, it is confusing to refer to the Harry Potter films while none of them are in the official list (they are in the individual >12y list). Also strange that these films are only in the 12y list while a lot of readers start to read and watch the series at the age of 8.
The link for Pixar Directors Recommend: Combined List is broken.
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Maybe someone should start working on a They shoot Children, don't they ? list, compiling all the best lists of movies for children from all around the world...
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hurluberlu wrote: January 9th, 2021, 11:43 am In the introductory text of the list, it is confusing to refer to the Harry Potter films while none of them are in the official list (they are in the individual >12y list). Also strange that these films are only in the 12y list while a lot of readers start to read and watch the series at the age of 8.
The link for Pixar Directors Recommend: Combined List is broken.
In The Netherlands most HP movies are restricted for 12yr and older. I don't think 12+ movies should be included in a list with recommendations for kids. First HP could have fitted well indeed though.
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xianjiro wrote: January 9th, 2021, 9:33 am
joachimt wrote: January 9th, 2021, 9:08 am
xianjiro wrote: January 9th, 2021, 1:38 am And that they didn't include something like Sesame Street! :P
Spoiler
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Well, it is kinda weird to include only one TV-series and ignore all the other iconic TV-series for kids. Sesame Street is obvious. Pat & Mat should be there then. Etc...
yeah, but how would we ever be able to check Sesame Street? At least we should be able to get all those Shawn Loves the Sheep episodes.
It worked well for me as a grown man who still watches kids shows :lol:
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"Pixar Directors Recommend: Films to Watch with Kids Under 13"

Is it a legit check if I watch something from this without a kid under 13?
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insomnius wrote: January 9th, 2021, 3:44 pm "Pixar Directors Recommend: Films to Watch with Kids Under 13"

Is it a legit check if I watch something from this without a kid under 13?
:think: :think:
No they recommend you watch them with kids, you can watch them without kids. It's not weird at all :whistling:
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It's only legit if you are under 13 as well.
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So just be clear - Shaun the Sheep is only a check if you watch all of the series?
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Yes, 171 x 7 minutes (and counting?)...

EDIT: Sorry, might be just 170 episodes, I got mixed up. :)
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joachimt wrote: January 9th, 2021, 9:08 am
xianjiro wrote: January 9th, 2021, 1:38 am And that they didn't include something like Sesame Street! :P
Spoiler
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Well, it is kinda weird to include only one TV-series and ignore all the other iconic TV-series for kids. Sesame Street is obvious. Pat & Mat should be there then. Etc...
There's also a mini-series on the list, Anne of Green Gables (1985).
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hurluberlu wrote: January 9th, 2021, 11:43 am That new kids list is disappointing with so many obvious titles and the rest being so US centric. Would have been great to have something less mainstream or greater, a meta list off kids lists from various countries around the world.

In the introductory text of the list, it is confusing to refer to the Harry Potter films while none of them are in the official list (they are in the individual >12y list). Also strange that these films are only in the 12y list while a lot of readers start to read and watch the series at the age of 8.
The link for Pixar Directors Recommend: Combined List is broken.
Good catch. I've fixed the link (it was the edit link before), so it should work now.
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Damn! It's going to be really difficult to get anything that's not platinum on this list. Anyone else?

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sortile9io wrote: January 9th, 2021, 6:12 pm Damn! It's going to be really difficult to get anything that's not platinum on this list. Anyone else?

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sortile9io wrote: January 9th, 2021, 6:12 pm Damn! It's going to be really difficult to get anything that's not platinum on this list. Anyone else?

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beavis already reported this to Marijn earlier today.
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Rankings updated... and somebody fixed the signatures without me having to report it on the other forum. :poshclap:

Now, if only something could be done about those pesky black backgrounds. :unsure:

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For some reason I somehow replied to a post made almost a month ago?
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I agree that more recent films are not as prominent as older films. However I think creating yet another list devoted to a particular time period is definitely not the way to alleviate the issue.

With a couple of notable exceptions (i.e. silent films) there are not really many particular decades that have official lists earmarked. What we do have are several lists devoted to particular genres or styles of film that tend to be clustered in one or two decades, such as film noir, westerns, samurai, etc.

So my suggestion is that if you want more modern films to be included in official lists, the way to do that is to find particular film movements or genres that have been the trademark of current cinema, and find a way to get those genres adopted as official lists.
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Can we please have more contemporary Asian lists? And more lists not only focused on classics, arthouse and mainstream movies?

That really annoys me a lot on ICM.

I still believe adopting the MM top 1000 list + a contemporary Japanese/Taiwanese and perhaps Chinese / Korean lists. Perhaps an Asian cult list?

Many country lists are also dated and very old.
Kinema Jumpo - newest movie only 2008
Vilsack - newest only 2007
Korea - newest only 2009
HK - newest 2011

Perhaps HK updated theirs?
This was LoveHKFilm.com's final poll, following three decade polls (2000s, 1990s, 1980s). Did they do a decade 2010's poll?

More lists like these:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/cine ... 2010-2019/

EDIT:
Hurray, they did!

http://www.lovehkfilm.com/blog/damnyouk ... ers-75-61/
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Lakigigar wrote: February 11th, 2021, 3:58 pm Can we please have more contemporary Asian lists? And more lists not only focused on classics, arthouse and mainstream movies?
:whistling: :innocent:
Perhaps HK updated theirs?
This was LoveHKFilm.com's final poll, following three decade polls (2000s, 1990s, 1980s). Did they do a decade 2010's poll?

EDIT:
Hurray, they did!

http://www.lovehkfilm.com/blog/damnyouk ... ers-75-61/
Wow, good find! I wonder if Onderhond has 100% checked on this? Or only like, 68? ^^


(We had discussed the contemporary Japanese part before but couldn't find a decision on how to judge lists with about 700 titles and "nO aUtHoRiTaTiVe SoUrCe". It's still an ongoing topic AND NOT FORGOTTEN BY THE PEOPLE!)
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