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Post by Knaldskalle » February 2nd, 2019, 8:54 pm

dirty_score wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 5:33 pm
nimimerkillinen wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 2:34 pm
Nathan Treadway wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 2:23 pm


It wasn't all nominees. It was all winners. :angry:
mean the 2 official short list of all nominated feature films (usa and foreign)
There's no need for more Cannes lists. I don't know why those nominated lists are official as well as the cinematography (it's a technical category anyway!). Awards list should always be about the Best Movie/Important Prize of a National/Film festival Award. History has no mercy for runners up.
Because the purpose of a movie is to win an award?
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Post by Armoreska » February 2nd, 2019, 9:03 pm

Cocoa wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 3:38 pm
100 American Independent Films (BFI Screen Guide) #386 (52/100)
100 Road Movies (BFI Screen Guide) #477 (41/100)
Abraccine's The 100 Best Brazilian Films #363 (14/101)
Cannes Film Festival - Grand Prix #450 (23/59)
FilmTV's 100 Greatest Italian Films #170 (59/100)
Sight and Sound - 75 Hidden Gems #241 (14/75)
100 American Independent Films (BFI Screen Guide) #648 (15/100) - worse
100 Road Movies (BFI Screen Guide) #920 (34/100) - worse
Abraccine's The 100 Best Brazilian Films #218 (18/101) - better
Cannes Film Festival - Grand Prix #314 (27/59) - better
FilmTV's 100 Greatest Italian Films #1417 (27/100) - worse
Sight and Sound - 75 Hidden Gems #241 (14/75) - same as Cocoa
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Post by XxXApathy420XxX » February 2nd, 2019, 9:06 pm

100 American Independent Films (BFI Screen Guide) #125
100 Road Movies (BFI Screen Guide) #150
Abraccine's The 100 Best Brazilian Films #41
Cannes Film Festival - Grand Prix #63
FilmTV's 100 Greatest Italian Films #48
Sight and Sound - 75 Hidden Gems #18

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Post by nimimerkillinen » February 3rd, 2019, 7:28 am

dirty_score wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 5:33 pm
nimimerkillinen wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 2:34 pm
Nathan Treadway wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 2:23 pm


It wasn't all nominees. It was all winners. :angry:
mean the 2 official short list of all nominated feature films (usa and foreign)
There's no need for more Cannes lists. I don't know why those nominated lists are official as well as the cinematography (it's a technical category anyway!). Awards list should always be about the Best Movie/Important Prize of a National/Film festival Award. History has no mercy for runners up.
Cinematography ages by far better than acting! All cinematography nominees would be good idea for a list too :thumbsup:
Maybe history hasnt mercy but we know that history has been wrong many times and oscars too so why not give a better chance to make up our own minds about them!

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Post by nimimerkillinen » February 3rd, 2019, 7:29 am

All 2xx except brazil 1xxx

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Post by dirty_score » February 3rd, 2019, 1:52 pm

Knaldskalle wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 8:54 pm
dirty_score wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 5:33 pm
nimimerkillinen wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 2:34 pm

mean the 2 official short list of all nominated feature films (usa and foreign)
There's no need for more Cannes lists. I don't know why those nominated lists are official as well as the cinematography (it's a technical category anyway!). Awards list should always be about the Best Movie/Important Prize of a National/Film festival Award. History has no mercy for runners up.
Because the purpose of a movie is to win an award?
Not exactly, but there's a reason why some people make certain movies and premiere/promote them at certain film festivals or late in the year to get them oscar's don't you think?

Also, it really helps winning awards. Every winner at Toronto Film Festival in the last 7 years have been nominated for oscars. The winners at Cannes usually end up nominated for Best Foreign. The last couple winners at Venice were nominated for Best Picture. The Shape of Water won and Roma has good chances to win as well!

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Post by erde » February 3rd, 2019, 5:32 pm

Anyway, when exactly is the 10th anniversary of ICM? Do we perhaps have 200 official lists on that date? ;)
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Post by Nopros » February 3rd, 2019, 5:34 pm

1st of May I think?

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Post by Knaldskalle » February 3rd, 2019, 6:23 pm

dirty_score wrote:
February 3rd, 2019, 1:52 pm
Knaldskalle wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 8:54 pm
dirty_score wrote:
February 2nd, 2019, 5:33 pm
There's no need for more Cannes lists. I don't know why those nominated lists are official as well as the cinematography (it's a technical category anyway!). Awards list should always be about the Best Movie/Important Prize of a National/Film festival Award. History has no mercy for runners up.
Because the purpose of a movie is to win an award?
Not exactly, but there's a reason why some people make certain movies and premiere/promote them at certain film festivals or late in the year to get them oscar's don't you think?

Also, it really helps winning awards. Every winner at Toronto Film Festival in the last 7 years have been nominated for oscars. The winners at Cannes usually end up nominated for Best Foreign. The last couple winners at Venice were nominated for Best Picture. The Shape of Water won and Roma has good chances to win as well!
But you're implying that if a movie doesn't win a movie award it's no good. I think I fundamentally don't understand this line of thinking. It's entirely possible that a mediocre to bad film wins an award and it's entirely possible that the best movie ever made doesn't win any awards, it depends on so many factors that it's impossible to predict. And because it's impossible to predict which movies win and which don't it strikes me as absurd to dismiss "runners up" out of hand without having a lot more context.
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Post by joachimt » February 3rd, 2019, 6:51 pm

erde wrote:
February 3rd, 2019, 5:32 pm
Anyway, when exactly is the 10th anniversary of ICM? Do we perhaps have 200 official lists on that date? ;)
10th anniversary was January 20th 2018.
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Post by Nopros » February 3rd, 2019, 6:53 pm

But I don't think it was open for public until a while later, no?

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Post by PeacefulAnarchy » February 3rd, 2019, 7:00 pm

Nopros wrote:
February 3rd, 2019, 6:53 pm
But I don't think it was open for public until a while later, no?
Yeah it appears to be: Erik starts, then invites Piet to join. A year later Marijn and pim come on board. Then they recruit a few more dutch people to help test things for a few months.
The first blog post is May 1st. But May 14th seems to be the first day with a big group of signups.

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Post by Gershwin » February 4th, 2019, 3:45 pm

I signed up on the 20th of May, iirc. I'm already thinking of ways to celebrate my 10 years anniversary.
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Post by Straka » February 4th, 2019, 6:12 pm

May 13 here, one day ahead of the big group.

I think that was the day Erik started to promote the site at several forums and it explains the signups for the following day.

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Post by Lonewolf2003 » February 4th, 2019, 7:07 pm

It’s been 10 years almost already?! :woot: Time sure flies when you’re having fun.

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Post by mightysparks » February 5th, 2019, 4:27 am

My 10th iCM anniversary is 27 November this year.
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Post by tourdesb » February 5th, 2019, 7:15 am

12 August will be my 10th iCM anniversary.
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Post by nimimerkillinen » February 5th, 2019, 11:56 am

20 November 4me

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Post by joachimt » February 5th, 2019, 12:40 pm

I'm just a newbie here. :P
I have to wait 3 more years for my for my 10th anniversary.
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Post by fori » February 5th, 2019, 1:45 pm

Amazing how many of the more visible users were around in the earliest days... I’ve been around half as long as a lot of you.

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Post by Minkin » February 6th, 2019, 10:09 am

How did some of you even discover ICM? Its never been advertised anywhere. So unless you knew one of the creators or were part of that Dutch forum, then how?

For me: I was keeping track of what films I watched via a word Document! (Excel always annoyed me). I'd completed the first AFI list, and was working on the 10th anniversary list + IMDB, then I searched for "ways to keep track of what movies you've watched" and ICM eventually came up. I searched for the same thing a few years later for television - and found Episode Calendar (which was just garbage), then I discovered Trakt - which is what I still use + recommend for tv.

Before discovering the site: a printed list, clipboard, and highlighter were my ICM. I still have it around somewhere. I think the IMDB top 250 circa 2007 I have printed has about 10 people's movie checks on it as well.

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Post by nimimerkillinen » February 6th, 2019, 10:19 am

i dont remember at all, i was on listal before since imdb didnt have listing options then but listal went to shitter (bugs and didnt want to grow) im on all these three now
rateyourmusic didnt have movies when listal started so that was bummer
but yea, before that i had a notebook of most films i had seen and their ratings

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Post by funkybusiness » February 6th, 2019, 10:39 am

The iCM list of TSPDT was linked on the TSPDT website, that's how I found it.

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Post by tourdesb » February 6th, 2019, 11:21 am

Before iCM, I used spreadsheets.
I think I've discovered iCM thanks to a friend sharing the link on FB.
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Post by Nathan Treadway » February 6th, 2019, 11:53 am

This probably deserved it's own thread. ;)

Anyhow, I was keeping track of all the best picture nominees I'd seen, and searched for it. I found a completely unrelated forum that was running an ongoing competition and they used icm as a way to keep track.

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Post by Fergenaprido » February 6th, 2019, 12:19 pm

I always figured I came late to icm, but I joined in Dec 2011, so only 2 years or so later. Didn't come to the forum until June 2014, though.

I was led to icm from a post someone shared on Best Ever Albums, in the forum where someone was asking about similar sites as BEA but for films. I stopped going to their forum shortly thereafter, as it was way too toxic and confrontational, though I still occasionally use the site (used to be super active at the start).

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Post by fori » February 6th, 2019, 12:44 pm

A friend at high school used it, which led to me joining.

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Post by Cippenham » February 6th, 2019, 1:04 pm

I was working on they shoot pictures don’t they influenced by shooting down pictures website by Kevin lee and found ICM searching for film lists on search engine I think or it was promoted by someone on another site

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Post by clemmetarey » February 6th, 2019, 1:36 pm

I became interested in films in 2010 or so, I joined IMDB and I was looking for information online about the top 1000 voters. I came across a post on a forum and the person who wrote it linked to his ICM profile, I believe that person was blueboybob.

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Post by OldAle1 » February 6th, 2019, 1:49 pm

I joined in December 2009 - I had been on ListsofBests and I suppose it must have died around that time, but whether I found this just looking around, or someone on IMDb mentioned it, no idea.

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Post by WalterNeff » February 6th, 2019, 2:25 pm

Via Twitter. IIRC, someone I started following via one of those twitter title games, posted a link and the rest is history. This May 19 is 8 years for me.

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Post by nimimerkillinen » February 6th, 2019, 2:37 pm

off-topic of off-topic but were any of you on ymdb? :P

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Post by 3rd » February 6th, 2019, 2:51 pm

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off-topic of off-topic but were any of you on ymdb? :P
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Post by mightysparks » February 6th, 2019, 3:08 pm

I was working on the top 250 and I think I was looking for an easier way of keeping track. I just googled something related to that and icm was one of the hits.
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Post by Knaldskalle » February 6th, 2019, 3:21 pm

funkybusiness wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 10:39 am
The iCM list of TSPDT was linked on the TSPDT website, that's how I found it.
That's how I found it as well. My first check was on December 25th, 2009.
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Post by beasterne » February 6th, 2019, 3:22 pm

I came to icm thanks to the reddit Top 250 poll. I set a goal for myself to watch 212 new movies to me in 2012 and this site was invaluable for me in finding recommendations. I also joined this forum in 2013, but didn't start participating until last year.

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Post by Cippenham » February 6th, 2019, 5:53 pm

What shook me when I joined was how many films the top users watched per day, was Kasparius the number one , what happened to him , I guess he got a life 😃 I joined 1July 2009.my first check were films on TSPDT so Ciitzen Kane was first check, so having seen much of that list gave me a good start. For years it was tough to find obscure films and there is a certain film not now on that list The Art of Vision, I still have never seen.

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Post by joachimt » February 6th, 2019, 8:33 pm

I was searching for hard to find movies from the Rosenbaum list. I found a thread called "Rosenbaum challenge" where some of those movies were mentioned. So I joined that forum to get in touch with those people. Because of that forum, I was let to the site it supported.
Not so hard to guess which forum that was.........
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Post by maxwelldeux » February 6th, 2019, 9:04 pm

Minkin wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 10:09 am
For me: I was keeping track of what films I watched via a word Document! (Excel always annoyed me). I'd completed the first AFI list, and was working on the 10th anniversary list + IMDB, then I searched for "ways to keep track of what movies you've watched" and ICM eventually came up. I searched for the same thing a few years later for television - and found Episode Calendar (which was just garbage), then I discovered Trakt - which is what I still use + recommend for tv.
With the exception that I wasn't really tracking what films I'd seen before joining ICM, I did the exact same thing you did. Googled something like "how to keep track of what movies you've seen" or something like that. Did the same for TV and settled on Trakt, too, where I do all my ratings for films and TV.

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Post by Simba63 » February 6th, 2019, 9:34 pm

mightysparks wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 3:08 pm
I was working on the top 250 and I think I was looking for an easier way of keeping track. I just googled something related to that and icm was one of the hits.
This is how I found it as well.

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